Skyhigh 20 Shout statement
From C64 Diskmag Wiki
Shout statement Two magazines merged into one, released a single is- sue and then - nothing.. What happend is the question the scene keep asking. So far I couldn't answer that question either until... Until I got a letter from the source itself. So be sure to read this text and get a lot of the answers. -------------------------------------------- OFFICIAL STATEMENT CONCERNING THE UNEXPECTED ABSENCE OF THE SHOUT SHOUT Yo pals... This text was written by one of the main- editors of the magazine SHOUT! : Antifan/Equinoxe. I want to clear up some of the rumours going around and express my amazement concerning reactions to our magazine. I would be glad if you all read the text COMPLETELY, thank you! Now that half a year has passed and people still did not get a sign of life of the SHOUT. When issue one was released, most sceners first admired all the work which was put into the magazine. But then more and more said that they had expected more from the fu- sion of two chart-magazines. Some complained about the logo, others disliked the style especially of the menu and the rest assailed the text itself. Neverthe- less the magazine climbed into the charts to a high position as you all know. So this fact made me wonder ing: What can be the reason that something is criti- cized all the time and in spite of all complaints it get a lot of votes by the scene? I did not make it to sol- ve this problem, maybe you can help me! (Well I (Biz Kid!) have a suggestion. Both Ingenious Brain and The Reformation were magazines with a good amount of votes before they merged. As the fusion went on, we had this period where people voted for both the new Shout but also the 2 'old' ones. This mag for one, tried to solve the problem like this: we counted the votes for IB & Ref. Added these votes and divided 'em by 2. This number was added to the votes of Shout. See in this way Shout maybe did get a big helping hand right from the start. In a way you got more votes than deserved. Well nevertheless; now the people in the scene had seen this mag high in the charts, and if I am right then this was still in their mind as they had to fill out the next votesheet!!! Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't there a lot of voters who just vote for the known groups, persons and mags?? I think so! -Maybe this is the explanation, who knows. Anyway back to the text - bk!) Many complaints were not specific at all (again and again statements like "I don't know whu, but the last SHOUT! was not too special" could be found in the magazines), but I want to explain at least some of the questions which were asked in coherence with the SHOUT! magazine: 1. Why did you release so few articles of Reformation? Where has the Reformation style gone? * You know that FLT is very inactive at the moment. So were they when we worked at the completion of the first SHOUT! issue. When Tabasco still was one of the most active swappers, I got a massive amount of votesheets by him. But when he intelligbly stop- ped swapping becoz of studies, we got no response from the FLT at all. So it was impossible for us in EQX to release more FLT-articles as there were hardly any articles from them. Concerning the style I must say that it is hardly impossible to fuse two outfits - what did you expect? The IB-outfit had advantages like using a lot of colours (also anima- ted), pictures and different fonts. The Reformation outfit had other advantages indeed (like using dif- ferent pages in the text mode, a great loader sys- tem etc.) But both codes were developed by com- pletely different coders, by TRON/FLT & MR, WARP and me, ANTIFAN/EQX. Coders just can cooperate if they are a good team and if they work together at the same place. In the case of SHOUT!, all changes had to be done by one coder, and we in EQX neither had the source-code of the Reformation nor ideas what to change alot. We wanted to keep our complex text outfit, and as you know, we expanded the sys- tem by making different background colours and super-hires pictures possible. The onlu soloution to make the fusion more visible would have been a totally new outfit, but our aim since the beginning og the IB had been to improve the text system, and by creating a completely other styled magazine the facility of using pictures and the manipulation of the colour-ram would probably have been lost. And we knew that most sceners expected pictures, didn't you? Anyway, to the next question (or better reaction)... 2. There were a lot of mistakes in the sytem. * All first issues have mistakes which will be removed in the future (one of the the mistakes resulted in the unfairness that the colour-ram stayed at the screen while the text flashed out..) 3. The logo was not good enough. * I don't understand why quite a lot of people disliked the logo - it was the best of all we got in that short time (I really missed the work of the FAIR- LIGHT'ers....), and I really have to thank DRAZ for painting it! 4. What's the reason for your delay? * There are a lot of reasons why the next SHOUT! was not released yet. The main reason is that all mem- bers of EQX+FLT are fuckin lazy (including me) -or better: inactive. I don't know exactly what is up with the pals in Fairlight, but in EQX Mr. Warp ( or simply WARP as he calls himself now( didn't turn on his sixty-four for some months now - he is just lamin' around in the Net and coding a mud with some others. Maybe you've met him on the Internet C64 Channel already as he's nearly every day on that damned system.. No I don't want to condem the Internet for all times as it got a huge importance in a very short time and it has thousand of advantages to other communica- tion systems. But too many people left unnecessary words about th system (just everyone think that it is fine to talk about the system, but we were one of the first in the SHOUT! to talk about it...), so I finally return to the topic... I'm quite busy with my work for the year in school, so I got very inactive just sending out 1 or 2 sendings per MONTH. More to that later. We also got a bit spirit less releasing another SHOUT! as we had so much to do for it - writing all the articles (the magazine had more text than the holy last issue of the Turkish mag SCRI PT - and IB#5 had more, too! If you don't believe this fact, then count every single byte and get the proof) editing the vote-sheets, looking for pictures, collecting all the articles of the different editors. Then people said the text was not as good as in the issue before - but we didn't know why! Indeed most people did not read too many of the articles, so they were not able to rate the real quality. We got the best reactions from sceners reading the whole text. On the one side this is logical as you keep on reading a magazine when you like it - but on the other side you should not rate the quality of a text if you just load the charts, the news and maybe 3-4 other chap- ters. So I really refered also to the critic concerning the text quality - first inform yourself before you give ratings (this wisdom is valid for all statements people do...) So as a resume I want to say that it probably was a mistake to fuse with the Reformation as many people expected something as a result. You shouldn't wonder to get a mag called INGENIOUS BRAIN next as it would be senceless to continue a two-group-magazine when one group does nothing. I hope that no one thinks that I wnat to rag on the members of Fairlight - I got no right to do this as every scener and every group has reasons to stop his activities. I just want to point out that it was not possible to create a magazine that fulfills all ideas of a fused mag becoz of this circumstances! Probably no one was even able to anticipate the consequences of the fu- sion: extreme inactivity. So it is quite sure that there won't be a second SHOUT, but another Ingenious Brain But I don't want to declare the SHOUT! as dead as you never can know if the mebers of Fairlight (and esp. those who edited the Reformation in the past) will get active again - so just be satisfied with the assertion that the magazine is in a state of suspended anima- tion. - IT IS NOT DEAD YET! If you are a mag-editor and you are nerved of the high position of the SHOUT! (a big thank you to all of you who are still voting for us, he he!) then think of all the other inactive magazines in the charts and wonder. A last comment to the people having contacted me: At the moment real life is more important for me - sorry, I don't have the time to reply to everyone! You know my adverts - I never wrote "100% reply" in the last months, even a year now, as I don't have the time to answer everyone! So don't come and call me disk- stealer, you should know the circumstances! For all Germans: Stop your fuckin "1,30 DM Warensendung" if you put paers into the envelope - it costs me 2,7DM for every sending... Read also the POSTAGE article in the SHOUT! #1 So a nig thank you to all who read this article com- pletely - if you got questions and you wabt a sure reply, call XXXXXXXXXXX. Signed ANTIFAN ANTIFAN And her at last his addy for reactions towards this article: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX