Skyhigh 11 ch24 Searching for Old C64 Games
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searching for old c64 games the c64 scene is dying.... or.... well ofcoz the scene isn't dying, but it is a fact that the game-scene isn't that productive anymore. back in da good old times a lot of games where made and sold/spreaded to the c64 scene. today the game-producing industry doesnt release so many games. further, is about 85% of the games released today, low- budget shit games... i sometimes wonder what the newcommers think about games released today.i think they, just like me, find them boring. but..... what about all the old classic games ?? i think most of the newcommers haven't even seen a lot of the best old games. think about titles like : elite impossible mission i + ii rambo commando uridium defender of the crown paradroid wizball giana sisters international karate + myth bombuzal choplifter delta cybernoid i + ii armalyte io sentinel zork barbarian i + ii terra cresta ever heard of'em ?? maybe not all, but some.. most of these titles are much better than the ones from 1993-1994. (maybe the gfx today is better, but the gameplay often sucks major dick!!) and now to da point. today most swappers just wants to spread new cracks. in my eyes this is a big mistake... why not build up your collection with older quality releases, instead of the shitty low-budget games of today??? i myself would prefer a small collection instead of 700 disks full of shit... furthermore i think sceners 'deserves' to get the best... - -- ------------ -- - i know atleast 2 guys who're trying to build up a 'c64 library'. as a matter of fact i have both represented in this chapter. may i present steve of laser -&- the collector i will not write more for now, but let these two gentlemen tell their own story the first one will be steve of laser.. - -- --- --------------- --- -- -- ok everybody read this and wise up ..... ---------------------------------------- once upon a time there was a computer called the c64 (or c128 according to flavour) and not only that but many people used to have fun with this so called computer cracking games and swapping with various people ..... many crackers have come and gone, some never to be heard of again but many of those crackers had a common goal ..... ian of fusion (a group from 1988 to 1989) once said it all with the following statement "cracking is about giving people the chance to own a game they otherwise wouldn't have" ..... who remembers the head librarian of eaglesoft ????? i certainly do and when i went to new york and met both him and prowl i was truly amazed at the sheer quantity of games he had ..... the head librarian had one desire and that was to create a "library" of c64 software which was unrivalled by anyone else in existence ..... who remembers madall ????? who also remembers janitor ????? both smart guys madall stated once "what matters in the end is that you've got the game and that it works" ..... janitor said once "forget speed, burn your modem, just create perfect cracks" ..... however a short while ago i returned to the c64 scene after a brief sojourn in st/amiga land to find a pitiful crazy situation where everyone only cared about speed and votes in the mags ..... now there is very little new software coming out and everyone seems to spend all their time whingeing or creating yet more and more demos and superfluous crap ..... now with the current new games outlook looking bleak you may consider getting rid of your trusty commodore despite the fact that it may have given you many years of pleasure ..... let's face it you're just copping out, who's going to show potential c64 owners what's on offer huh ????? now you do have an alternative however remember head librarian's theory and dream ????? well i'm going to take it all a little bit further by collating the world's largest library of c64 software so come one day if you want a game chances are i'll have it ..... don't kid yourself you've get all the games there are i've got 2000 games on one list and yet 2000 more to go on the list ..... only 4000 games and by my best guess there should in excess of 10000 games available !!!!! now many games i've got are frozen or simply badly cracked/crunched or non- trained or whatever so quite simply i will re-do many games and crack many of the frozen ones ..... so when you get a game cracked by laser it may well not be a 'new ware' but it won't be my problem it'll be yours and after all if you only want new wares you could be doing a lot of waiting in the future ..... i'm not interested in people's opinions on this subject i'm just voicing mine, because if the c64 is to live we have to make of what it has to offer right now and create a future for it that we can be proud of and bring new users into the c64 scene ..... examples of recently cracked 'classic' games are heavy metal paradroid+5 (yes +5!) and knight games levelpacked to only half a side !!!!! now you have a choice you can get in touch and swap both old and new games (i'm only sending the old ones to those who ask for them, so people aren't inundated with stuff they already have) or you can sit there and wait for the new games (sure christmas is coming but i don't see that many games for the c64 on the horizon) ..... most games on my list are far superior to their previous incarnation and mega trained etc ..... so there's my dream ..... 1.create perfect cracks 2.create the world's largest 64 library 3.and most important enjoy !!!!! ----------------------- in case you're wondering (for those of half a brain) i am indeed steve who used to be in zenith and am back with an attitude ..... if you want to trade call or write :- XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXX from united kingdom XXXXXXXXXXXX from overseas remember piracy is about fun and about friendship and i salute those cool pirates past and present who have gone out to prove worthy of that idiom ..... ian (ccs,fusion) nik (bcs,ikari) ironfist (laser,pe#1,zenith,boyz) paul (sigma,bouncy bytes) phil (sigma,bouncy bytes) andy+andy (dcs,rsi) tom (the management) sonny (danish gold) ixion+janitor (triad) dawsy (genesis project) frank (electric boyz,laser) oahawhool (fbr) ninja+chad (fbr) head librarian (eaglesoft) prowl (eaglesoft) hendy (breaker boys,zenith,dcs) ric (laser) ian+mic (triad) strider+hobbit (fairlight) madall+jeff smart (triad) nosah (zenith,dcs) paul (medway boys) jester (laser) jj the breaker (ucf) tim+mike (laser) dom+perv (loftysoft) derbyshire ram (dom,illusion) and lastly to tom+quill for starting me on the road to c64 piracy all those so many years ago when i was proud of the fact i had 10 originals and thought that was a lot !!!!! ..... so when the games run out who you gonna call ????? so you see my point of view i hope and will probably agree it kinda makes sense ..... imagine a world with new 64 games ..... steve of laser ..... ---------------------------------------- the next one will as mentioned above be the collector ---------------------------------------- from: the collector (antitracks archivist) XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX ------------------- hi friends ! this is the collector, who is the archivist of antitrack/legend/f4cg. the software-companies don't produce any fantastic proggies for the c64 any longer. i think it is logical that there soon won't be any new software. that's why i'm trying to get in contact with other collectors of software all over the world to widen my collection to a c64-documentation. i think it is about time to search for new as well as for old software for our "loved machine". i don't emphasis the latest news.i'm also looking forward to getting oldies which i was longing for a long time. i don't belong to any group. i'm the archivist of antitracks/legend/f4cg and with this job i've enough to do, especially to keep our collection "up to date". i'm only collecting games + utls, but no demos or mags, though i like to spend a look on them. but that's enough! i can't spend more time with this kind of stuff. i don't mind if you give my addy + list to your+friends, who are also interested in swapping oldies. i would even ask you to do so !! since i'm a passionate collector, i prefer to swap about 3-80 discs per time. sendings of 1-2 discs are not so interesting as far as the time or stamp-payment is concerned. please send me your game-list + utls-list as well as your wanted-list (if you have one!?). please tell me as well whether you have a printer or not. i think we should swap at least once per month. i'm looking forward to hearing from you, bye, bye! the collector (o.t.e.!) XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX ---------------------------------------- epilogue. i think it's a very good idea to create such a library of the c64 games.. and i would advice these 2 dudes to get in contact, and in that way help each- other... finally i must tell you that the text from steve of laser was earlier brought in the great dutch mag MAGNESS by groove d-signs. but it was send to me by steve with the intention to use it in skyhigh aswell... my last words to you will be, to think about the past instead of denying it... get back to a high quality. and why not start by getting sum old classics dusted off and played again??? remember we all have a great scene-history, don't destroy it... BIZ KID