Propaganda 03 ch06
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BEAST/HYSTERIC+INSIDERS (in his note 'Beast Mania #37'): "PROPAGANDA is cool,but I also like MAMBA (no offense...). Could you send me some originals?" SORRY,NO ORIGINALS FOR MAMBA-FANS! FELIX/AMOK-Amiga Section (on the phone): "PROPAGANDA is really VERY nice!!! Just too much text! Hehehe! When I saw the intro I was totally fascinated... Seems like the C64 is not dead yet." DANNY/THE FORCE (in a letter to SCRAP): "Cool mag,maybe not so objective,but no mag today is objective." WHAT DO YOU MEAN WE ARE NOT OBJECTIVE?! EVER SEEN A FEEDBACK LIKE OURS? INTRUDER/BLACK REIGN (on the phone): "PROPAGANDA is VERRRY cool!" DRAKE/VICTIMS (on the phone): "I like PROPAGANDA! The intro was cool. Great coding... And really funny!" THE SHADOW/EXCELLENCE (on the phone): "It's a fucking cool mag! I like it... Once I thought MAMBA was nice,but your PROPAGANDA simply blows it away!!!" THOMAS KONCINA/DIGITAL MARKETING (on the phone): "Congratulations! PROPAGANDA is really the BEST magazine on the C64! It's a hammer!!! And the intro is incredible!" DEF JAY/NATO (on the phone): "Very good text!" MR.PERFECT/AKRAK (in a letter): "Hi,SCRAP,here's MISTER PERFECT of AKRAK and the reason I'm writing to you is because of the fact that you don't know nothing about demoreviewing. The biggest example is your demoreview of our demo PARANOIA of April 1991. Let me tell you that I would have written you before but I couldn't as I was on holiday to Spain. Gee man,you really don't know nothing about demo's,atleast the difference between a good and a bad demo because you call good demo's lame (PARANOIA) and lame demo's good (VIOLATOR... Haha,the lamest coding ever). So our demo has bad coding,eh? VIOLATOR doesn't seem to have any good coding at all. The music was ripped,ok,but we don't have an composer, why didn't you mentioned that in your demorevieuw??? Our design and graphics were megacool. Just look at Seaside or the menue or every part you want. Many people told me that the demo was mighty and they also told me that instead your work in VIOLATOR was just shit. You don't know nothing about coding and my personnal opinion is that you don't even deserve a place in the top 2O of the graphics charts. Yours,The skinhead of AKRAK,MR.PERFECT" WE LOVE YOU,TOO! MC-T-FLY/TAT (in a letter): "I liked PROPAGANDA #O2 very much! The intro is cool! MAMBA is lame!" YOU GOT THE POINT. JIHAD/ACTION (on the phone): "PROPAGANDA is incredibly cool. It's definitely the best magazine around (Only SEX'N'CRIME was better!) because it is something SPECIAL. Some lamers say they don't like PROPAGANDA... No wonder, they say that because you rag on them... But they ALL read it anyway!" PER/ABYSS CONNECTION (in a letter): "Cool mag you have,hope that it will be as cool as the old SEX'N'CRIME! MAMBA SUX!!! PROPAGANDA rulez! But BITMANIA is cool,too! One of your unlimited readers signing off: Per/Abyss Connection" BITMANIA? PYRO/PROXYON (his comment below the magazine-charts in the second issue of his magazine "FLASH BACK"): "PROPAGANDA has got a real cash success after the first issue although it was ragging like hell to other people. Seems that the scene likes to see people ragging. But I admit that PROPAGANDA was funny to read." OH,YOU ADMIT IT? THANK YOU... WE REALLY DO CARE ABOUT YOUR OPINION. (HELL! WHO IS THAT GUY?!?) SCAT/REBELS (on the phone): "PROPAGANDA is super! Especially the intro!! I just hate that you have to wait so long until you can press space in the intro. The text is really good!" AL BUNDY/MTX/CABANA (in a note): "I have had a quick look at PROPAGANDA 2 (I had 2 different versions... Both different text????????) Anyway,it looked a good read,I'll finish it in the week. As for the comment about my votes,well you were right,they are lame,I don't have the time to vote any- more,and I have had very little time in the past,it's just been the case of putting down the first name that I think of. Charts are shit,they can never give an accurate figure of the scene,unless EVERYONE sees EVERY piece of code,EVERY music,ALL mags and ALL graphics,and then if they all vote unbiased. I don't think anyone takes much note of the charts anyway. Although,I like the idea you had in BAD NEWS,it was interesting and unbiased." REMIX/CLIQUE (in a letter): "It's really nice to see G*P is active again. The new PROPAGANDA (#2) was neat, lots of text! Just a sign of how much I enjoyed it: I had to go to the central post-office to get a big pack coming from England to me. I really wondered what it was and who it was coming from. But just when I was about to leave,I saw the postman bringing my mail... Packages,among them was yours. And I went back home and started reading PROPAGANDA from top to toe... When I was finished,the central post-office was closed,and I had to wait another day to get the big pack from England. Another surprise to me was that I received another PROPAGANDA... And I believe it's a fake one,just like the faked BAD NEWS from TRANSCOM. More surprisingly,I was in the LAMER-CHARTS! Well,I've been swapping on the 64 for about 2 years,I had great friends and contacts,swapped like hell.. I've NEVER been talking shit about anyone. I never wrote "Send hotter or I'll drop you!" to any of my contacts. I always thank them for what they send,although some send real shit,but I believe that this scene is for friendship,and I simply can't hurt any friend just because he sent me some old stuff. No,I can't do that. I'm editing a mag ("SCRIPT") and I never attacked anyone in it,always tried my best to be objective... But still people put me in the lamer-charts!?! If that PROPAGANDA (the other one) is a fake, I really want to know who did it,so that maybe he can tell me why I'm lame. But if it's a real "PROPAGANDA" (which can't be,as it's also #2. Two #2 issues?),then "thanx" to all voters... MORON/PARADIZE/ BOYS was also in the lamer-charts and if this means that he's lame,then I accept that I'm also lame,as this guy is one of my best friends in the scene. Well,that was all about this matter... But I was really hurt! I'm always trying to behave friendly and now look what I receive... On the disk you can find the 7th issue of SCRIPT. I hope you're going to like it. Please check the news part for some- thing you may be interested,there's news about you,a federation against you. They wanted me to print a message to you. Anyway,I'm living in Turkiye,which is not near the real scene-countries like Germany,Holland etc. So,it's nearly impossible for me to understand how people can make wars. In PROPAGANDA #2 there was a sentence you wrote,and I believe that says it all: "This is just a computer... Nothing else." People are in war just because of a computer and forget their real aim: Friendship. You may think that I'm always scorning problems and always talking about friendship etc. but that's the way I am. Please tell me who the hell made the PROPAGANDA fake and I'll ask them a couple of questions..." TCH/BRUTAL (in a note): "Is it true that there are 3 issues of PROPAGANDA 2 as I've seen two totaly different ones!?! I think it's something to do with this 'INFANTILY/X-RAPED' dude as R.C.S. got it from those suckers..." 3 ISSUES?!? GOOD GRIEF! ACTION JACKSON/TRC (in his note "Let me speak/TRC"): "By the way... Have you read the wrong issue of PROPAGANDA #2? This issue was completely written by a fuckin' lamer called... INFINITY of X-REETED. So you kutlamer,if you think you can call us gays or fags,then try to call me up again and show up at Venlo so that we can clear 'things' up. Take sum Ehbo materials with you,just in case!!" AIRWOLF/ACTION (on the phone): "INFINITY is a pretty lame little child. He is just a boasting lamer who tries to get famous by being in war with you." I AM ON THIS COMPUTER FOR ABOUT 6 YEARS NOW,BUT A LAMER LIKE INFINITY I HAVE NOT SEEN BEFORE. GRIM REAPER/NEI (on the phone): "PROPAGANDA #2 was cool like always... I really liked the demo-reviews,so keep SCRAP doing them! And continue exposing lamers like ROOZE/DISCOVERY and that INFINITY/X-RATED! I downloaded "ARE WE THE BEST?" once,and it was real crap,just like GAMERS GUIDE. They use lame mini-intros to have short versions and review old games because they can't have any first releases." MARWIN/TAT (in his note "Hallo Eikels"): "Cool demo and cool mag!! This is a very cool sending from you!! Send soon and send those cool GP-wares!!" KULLERBLUME/CORNICHON (at my place,when I showed him PROPAGANDA): "Waaaaahnsinn,ey! Ey,waaaaaaaaahnsinn!!" CALT/GRAFFITY (in the note "LNinja+9"): "Nice wares from G*P. I'd like to ask you sumthing: If ya meet SCRAP in da street then tell him that not TRIUMWYRAT is the best Hungrian demogroup but it's GRAFFITY! Or he hasn't got our megademo called "JUSTINCASE"??? It would change his mind!!! That's all what I wanted to say. Send soon and stay cool!" SCRAP DID SEE "JUSTINCASE". IT DID NOT CHANGE HIS MIND. HOWEVER,DID YOU SEE THE DEMO "PARALYZED BYTES" BY THE FACES? IF NOT TRIUMWYRAT,THEN FACES ARE THE #1 DEMO-GROUP IN HUNGARY. EXTREMIST/EMPIRE (on the phone): "PROPAGANDA? Man,it's soooooo cool!! That really kicks! ...I was so tired of MAMBA." VENGEANCE/AMAZON: "Ok,hi guyz ok I just read issue #2 of your mag,ok nice shit but of course therez consistant slagging about Australia,well I'm not pissed off at that at all! Most Australians would be, but not me. I agree with the review of the TDU Demo and about most of the stuff you guyz said! BUT I don't agree about all Australian demos being LAME! (or should be banned!). now if you wanna see sum Australian stuff that isn't lame I'll send you the AMAZON megademo when its released and then see what you think! also I read sum mags you got,you recived VANDALISM NEWS #3 and you had a comment at the end saying 4 news you should read R'N'R or our mag right? Well I agree but Do you really expect Australians to have the tops on news? Well we don't we are the last in the world to get it! This is why! So people Think oz is LAME BULLSHIT! If Australia took 1-2 Days to mail to we would be the fastest in the world on news and spreading! So VANDALISM NEWS would Then be almost #1 Mag I Think! but seeings its not being made anymore and thats a story I'll tell in a Minute,that doesn't matter! Right help me to make our new mag really COOL! and I'll help you to Make PROPAGANDA-The best on news! I'll send you all the Latest Aussienews once aa week so you have our news about whats going on over here and then you will have all news about the scene fast! and you send me sum latest news from germany and the rest of europe to help Australia get a better name 4 its self! I hope you consider this! I'll also collect Australian votes 4 you if ya want! before I wrap a Question... in VANDALISM #3 did you laugh at the anti-JADETIGER- pic on da front? ...how come there are 2 Diffent copys of PROPAGANDA #2? ones got the new G*P intro and the other the anti-MAMBA intro! funny anyway please spread the AMAZON mag... R4T,and send soon..." HELL! I THOUGHT YOU GUYS IN AUSTRALIA SPEAK ENGLISH!? TRUE,YOU ARE THE LAST IN THE WORLD TO GET ANY NEWS... SO,WHY THE F**K DO YOU BOTHER MAKING A MAGAZINE?? YOU ONLY GET -AUSTRALIAN- NEWS QUICKLY. BUT WHO WANTS TO READ ANYTHING ABOUT UNKNOWN AUSTRALIANS?? ...NOT ME! EXORY/HOLOCAUST (in a letter): "Hi motherfucker! Thanks for your nice words about my comeback. However,i'd like to see the vote-sheets that putted me into your lamecharts,cause surely it isn't your own opionion,right? Naaah- ofcourse not! Well,enjoy the note fuckhead. Greet from: Megaboozer/Navy Seals (ex-you-know-who-anyway!)" EXORY,JUST SHUT UP AND GO HOME. JERRY/TRIAD (in a letter): "There was quite a lot of what was said in PROPAGANDA #2 about charts that was just right..." VINCENT/WOW (in a letter): "Yo! PROPAGANDAA seems to become a good follower of SEX'N'CRIME! I'd like to compare it to the German TV-magazine "REPORT"! I always wonder why REPORT (SEX'N'CRIME & PROPAGANDA aswell) are the only and the first people finding out scandals and interesting conflicts. Either they have a colourful phantasy or they cause the things they write about! But: one thing is cool: The music! Good work,HJE! Vincent; supporter of WOW! P.S.: I guess you like slagging! Am I right?" P.P.S: On the other hand: if you would stop slagging,your mag would have been quite empty,eh? However,I don't care!" WELL,VINCENT,YOU DON'T CARE? THEN WHY DO YOU SEND ME A LETTER?! EXCELL/LEGEND (mail on MYSTIC CAVERN): "Well,I must say that this INFINITY (or whatever) sounds like a down right idiot... Thanx for the info,best of luck with the next REAL PROPAGANDA." SKATER/CENSOR (mail on MYSTIC CAVERN): "PROPAGANDA is really a good looking magazine!" WELL,IT DOES NOT ONLY LOOK GOOD... MARKUS WIEDERSTEIN (on the phone): "PROPAGANDA is the BEST magazine ever made!! I looove that anti-MAMBA intro!!" TACHYON/MEGA INDUSTRIES (Editor of the magazine REMARK) in a letter: "...about INFINITY... Your story about him in the award ceremony was perfect but had only one small mistake... He doesn't live in Heerlen... He's a local lamer around here as he lives in Blerick a sub-town of Venlo. Thought you knew that though... You also should have heared (or seen) that there also was a FAKE PROPAGANDA#2. I heared at the Venlo-meeting last Saturday,by COMMANDER of ROLE. He was really pissed of as they used his name, in his words: abused his name. I got me a copy of it but I easily spotted a difference which anyone should notice if they know you personally. The amount of text was too low. Ask anyone who knows you,the average amount of text you write in a letter,or in a magazine,especially in the feedback chapter. Mostly three times as much as the letter written to you,looking at the fake issue,your answers were even shorter than the letters... Nope,they only could have fooled some lamers who don't know any- thing in my opinion. They even used your crack-intro,probably failing to link the real intro in front of it (By the way, the anti-MAMBA intro was a great idea, though a bit faulty executed,but try to make a new one as it starts to bore me. An anti-REMARK intro for example (Nah!)" BOD/TALENT (on the phone): "The loader-game is nice,the coding is nice,the text is hummmmm... Too much ragging on me." DERBYSHIRE RAM/DOMINATORS (in a letter): "Many thanks for the disks and letter, very nice demo as usual. Yes I saw the fake version of PROPAGANDA #2,you know, I really feel more PITY than anger for guys who stoop to those depths,they have to be lacking in something. I would not worry too much about the Federation against you,it will only fizzle out as they all have in the past,as always, these things rear their ugly heads when very little is around on the '64,it used to be one bit demos,now it seems to be slagging notes,most of which I reckon are done simply to combat boredom. I honestly don't know how or why 3DK and JACK DANIELS were admitted into DOM... ...In my own opinion they are both lame. The only real good thing about the group is that finally DOGFRIEND is back on the cracking scene,this takes a little pressure away from us U.K. guys. I still reckon all the big or better known groups should somehow control their lamer sections better than they are doing at present,unfortunately most groups have these guys who can do nothing but stir up all the shit and slag people off..." DANNY/THE FORCE (in a letter): "Again lately I recived a Disc from G*P with some quality wares included PROPA- GANDA one thing was a mistake to write in your mag in the Charts Chapter the way you guys in GP Treated other peoples voters,I think it was wrong To write such stuff about your VOTERS Charts since anyone Can Vote what he thinks for right,but thats up To you guys (ed.lets See if ya'll add this to reaction part, hope so)..." BLABLABLA... FRODE/MEGASTYLE (in a letter): "The best with PROPAGANDA is the charts. They seem to be the fairest charts in my opinion. You should vote for the guy who deserves it,not for the guy who does NOT deserve it. You simply vote on the "not-deserving-guy" because you have an uncle who knows a man who has a son who votes lame. You see? "Boy,I'm cool... I vote like the rest!" Gee,that is lame! The text in PROPAGANDA can sometimes be too much non-objective in some sections. But mostly,the text is good. I also like the humor in the mag. Some mags say: "If you don't agree 1OO% with us,then you can fuck off,sucker,loser,jerk, lamer,dickhead,etc." (Lame language!) Instead of using only these mentioned words,PROPAGANDA mixes the text with humor... I like that very much! I very often laugh when reading PROPA- GANDA (both 1&2),not because of the text is silly (which it isn't),but because of the tricky words which are used by the authors. About the intro: The idea is super! Not more to say than that the intro is very smooth (like the rest of the mag),I don't know if I'd dare to say that PROPAGANDA is the absolutely best mag in the world,but PROPAGANDA is one of the BEST. No doubt!" BLITZ/PULSAR (in a letter): "VIOLATOR 2 was AWESOME... PROPAGANDA is cool,I like ya charts,coz while others just comment on how others voted,you have gone one step forward and simply put forward your own ideas. I don't agree with ya charts (LIGHT should be Top Five),but I like your style and boldness... Yo,why was there 2 issues of PROPAGANDA #2 spread? Did INFUCKITY spread it? Coz I seen 2 totally different issues. ...Keep ASLIVE and the rest on the run!" YANK/SOUND AND VISION (in issue #2 of his magazine "NEWSFLASH"): "The guy who 'made' PROPAGANDA #2 is the infamous (ed.really most hated!!) INFINITY of X-RATED!!! I think that you are really the biggest Lamebrain who ever walked around free at this beautyful planet!!!! ...nobody is lamer than INFINITY." TCH/BRUTAL (in BRUTAL RECALL#7): "...I have done some 'research' and I came to the conclusion that there's not a real living person called OMG. I think it is just an invention of you dudes in GENESIS*PROJECT... You (ANTICHRIST) do all the writing for him as,you can see this as a compliment,write so damn good, just like OMG,and only a few people are blessed with this!!! The way you write your texts makes everybody think you are right and they believe it all!!" OH,THANK YOU. I'M FLATTERED. L'TRIMM/CLIMAX (in TRASHNEWS #13): "PROPAGANDA? They cheat and tell lies!" TRASHNEWS? TRUE TRASH!