Mamba 11 ch08 Different Things

  different things
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  hi!
  thanks for writing shit...
  in writing shit you are unbeatable.
  here is the real story about sys-omg.
  be fair(by the way do you know the
  meaning of this word really?) and
  print the story in the next 'reports'
  article,"thanks".
  (ed:do you agree with our translation
  omg?, although we are sorry we have
  printed it in different things be-
  cause we had too much reports, so we
  thought it would better fix in here
  anyway.    ...go on with plus...
  i've been in venlo about 3-4 times
  all in all. so, i didn't really go
  there regulary as it's quite boring
  (mainly amigas, old c64 software and
  90% lamers.) however, i've been here
  to spread "sex'n'crime".
  but now, ever since volker promised
  to go to venlo regulary to get all
  the latest demos and spread the "sex
  'n'crime", there was no reason for
  me to go there. so, about 6 months
  ago there was a venlo-meeting. i did
  not go there but some days later some
  people told me "gorbi/saigon" talked
  a lot of shit about me. well, i did
  not really care as i didn't even know
  him.                             (+)
  one month later there was another
  venlo-meeting. volker couldn't be
  there so i decided to go there and
  spread "sex'n'crime". one of the per-
  sons i met there was this dude gorbi
  of saigon. i remembered about what he
  said at the previous venlo-meeting
  about me. he then told me that it was
  not him who told crap about me but it
  was sys.
  "well who is sys?" i asked him and
  gorbi told me sys would be a member
  of alpha flight.
  about half an hour later i met gorbi
  again, this time together with sys.
  i kindly asked him what it was all
  about and guess what he said?!   (+)
  sys:"well, yes, i talked shit about
      you, not gorbi."
  omg:"but why? i don't even know you
      so what should i have done to
      annoy you?"
  sys:"hmmm...nothing really... you are
      simply an asshole!"
  omg:"why? what have i done? tell me
      if i made a mistake or something
      so that i could maybe apologise
      or do it better next time."
  sys:"no you didn't do anything. i
      just declare you war to get some
      action in the scene!"
  omg:"but you can't simply annoy with-
      out any reason."
                                   (+)
  sys:"why not, this is a free country
      i can do whatever i want."
  omg:"but then i could do the same and
      annoy you."
  sys:"so what, i don't care."

  after that little chat he went away,
  took a copy of "sex'n'crime" and
  wrote shit about me into the mailbox.
  i decided to ignore him as i thought
  he might lose the fun in provocating
  me if i wouldn't react.
  (ps.:scrap,texrex,gorbi and 2-3 other
  guys can testify the dialogue.)
  well, the next month i had already
  forgotten about sys. i didn't even
  remember we having a fight or some-
  thing... until trap/dominators asked
  me on a conference why sys was al-
  ways spreading sex'n'crime. i asked
  him,"why shouldn't he spread it?" and
  trap said "well, he doesn't seem to
  like it. i always get the sex'n'crime
  from him and this is already the 3rd
  issue he writes shit about you and
  the others in amok into the mailbox."
  some days later some more people told
  me that sys wrote shit about me, they
  even sent me the issues. and again i
  decided to ignore him. see, i'm not
  agressive at all. i got the right to
  write whatever i want and so does
  sys. just that i do not write what
  people would like to hear but the
  truth.but sys simply wrote shit about
  me (without any reason,we both didn't
  know each other before) to provocate
  me, get a little war and gain some
  publicity. (nobody can deny the fact
  that sys has never been so "famous"
  as after he wrote all the shit about
  me.) guess what, the next month sys
  again wrote shit about me, but as he
  didn't get any reaction when he had
  written scene-crap about me he now
  finally decided to get personal and
  declare me as a gay.  well i was
  pretty upset about that, also a lot
  of people told me i should finally
  respond his notes as i had waited
  long enough.
  finally i agreed 'n decided to strike
  back just as mean, as unfair and as
  personal as he attacked me. he called
  me a gay and annoyed me for 6 months
  and i finally called him a son of a
  bitch. of course i was unfair but i
  never asked sys to start a stupid war
  with me. be honest, noone of you
  would have reacted any other way than
  i did, just you probably replied his
  shit at once and would not give him a
  chance to stop for 6 months. well sys
  was in venlo, copied the latest issue
  of snc and loaded the mailbox-ed. to
  write some shit about me again and
  copy it to other dudes at venlo. but
  instead of a blank-innocent screen
  there was my counterstrike...the shit
  about his mother. (by the way, what
  do you (crazy-mamba iss.10) mean by
  saying i started writing lies about
  sys and even his family? after all
  wasn't it you who wanted to write a
  lot of private things about spitfire
  and his family in some disc-notes?!)
  (ed.:we won't comment on your in-
  feriority complex here in mamba, but
  wait for our personal letter to you,
  omg!also read our statement at the
  end of this text.)

  and now guess what? sys told everyone
  in venlo how mean i was and that i
  had started writing shit about him
  without any reason. this is a lie,
  everyone can prove that.now sys wrote
  a note and declared a holy war and
  ripped off some text-passages of some
  heavy metal songs he listens to...
  this note was totally ridiculous. i
  decided to write him a letter on pa-
  per and told him i never wanted a war
  but he started. however i couldn't
  come to the next 2 venlo-meetings as
  i was in spain for 5 weeks. i even
  sent him a postcard from spain. but
  guess what?! sys wrote his note 'in-
  exorable' and said i wouldn't come to
  venlo but wouldn't give any reason so
  i would be afraid of him.
                                   (+)
  well, i've to say, of course i was
  afraid of a fight. everybody is and
  always will be. anyone of you out-
  there who claims not to be afraid of
  a fight is a lier or incredibly stu-
  pid. the venlo-meeting after that was
  again bad luck for me as we (amok)
  had no conference meeting with 'king-
  soft' that saturday (about 'turn it')
  so again i couldn't come and again
  sys called me a coward. finally there
  was the venlo/august-meeting. on
  tuesday, before venlo, sys called me.
  we talked for about 2 hours and he
  apologised for all the shit he wrote.
  after that i apologised aswell for da
  words about his mother.          (+)
  but, sys admitted he had started
  without a reason and also admitted
  that he knew i only insulted his mom
  in self-defence. sys and me even de-
  cided to write a co-operation apology
  and peace note. but on friday before
  venlo he called me again and said:
  "it's ok to be friends again, we also
  should write this note together and
  apologise for everything and then
  forget it all, but i announced so
  bigly that we will fight, so that we
  really have to fight now, no matter
  that we are friends now. the public
  expects a fight and if i won't fight
  i will lose my face in public."
                                   (+)
  gosh! i couldn't believe anyone could
  possibly that stupid.i really thought
  sys was joking. well on the next day
  (venlo) i had school so i arrived at
  venlo very late.(13.00) i was talking
  to a couple of dudes when sys came a-
  long, smiled friendly and said: "hi
  oliver! let's go outside." i replied
  "naaeh... i don't wanna fight and it
  is raining anyway..."  "ok, bye!",he
  said and went to the bar to drink sum
  more beer. so i continued talking to
  the other people. later we went out-
  side, to a snackbar, ate and returned
  to the meeting place. we went inside
  again, talked to some more people and
  finally met some members of action.
  so, we were standing outside, right
  infront of the door and talked for a-
  bout half an hour. there were soft-
  cell and the edge of lazer, texrex
  and scrap of genesis, hok,accu and
  jihad of action, volker and me of
  amok. also many people passed by like
  ghost of fairlight, guys from holo-
  caust and more. however,when i passed
  sys at the bar he was watching me,
  drinking some more beer and talking
  to his (ex-drive) friends. volker
  asked me to drive him to the train-
  station as he had to catch the bus at
  15.36. i promised to do so, but i
  wanted to stay some more minutes to
  talk to duff'90/amok and druid and
  skater of culture. volker urged me to
  go, so we finally left the building
  at 15.25 and we were in a real hurry
  then. when i left the building, sys
  was walking next to me. when we were
  outside he blocked my way and said:
  "ok, let's fight." but his mouth, his
  arms and his legs were frembling. so
  either he was totally drunk, very
  scared (of me? i don't think so...),
  or very nervous. (i was very nervous
  too...) well, i asked why he wanted
  to fight. he admitted somedays ago
  that he was the agressor, he attacked
  me without any reason and i only did
  write the same shit as he did more
  than 6 times before.             (+)
  but sys only said:"why? i don't need
  a reason." and beat me into my face.
  well, as i always said, i do not want
  to fight, only primitive people use
  their fists to solve conflicts, but i
  was prepared for the worst but expec-
  ted the best. we had quite a variety
  of weapons with us and we decided to
  use them only as a last way to avoid
  a severe conflict. see, i could have
  just killed sys, but what for? when
  he beat me, i used tear-gas (very
  weak, definitely no poison gas as you
  called it..) to stop him. this was
  the easiest way to stop sys. me,scrap
  and volker went away in a real hurry
  as i was really upset and worried
  about this situation. also volker was
  urging us to hurry up as he would
  miss the bus otherwise. so i sprayed
  it into sys's face and turned away in
  a hurry. but sys didn't stop and ran
  after me to attack me from behind.
  (see, sys was running while i was
  only walking in a hurry.) volker
  warned me, so i turned into sys's di-
  rection again and spraid once more.
  sys was very close so i did a weak
  kick into his knee to stop him.
  well, every reasonable person would
  have stopped now...
  not sys of course. i was walking back
  wards to keep an eye on him and he
  started running into my direction
  again, so i sprayed again whenever he
  closed up for a range of 2 metres.
  finally one of sys's friends told him
  to stop as he couldn't see anything
  anyway. sys dropped into the dirt and
  started crying. (ed.:who wonders if
  you use tear-gas! this has nothing to
  do with being childish as you pose
  it!)
  so, sys started all, beated first,
  was unfair first, ran, lost and was
  crying...
  however, when we went away 3 guys
  followed us and said they got affec-
  ted by my spray aswell and blamed me
  for it. i apologised and told them
  that it wasn't my fault.
  if sys hadn't attacked me i would
  have never needed to use the gas.

  this was the whole story. actually
  you are obliged to print it because
  it was you who published a totally
  wrong and properly lied story in
  mamba iss.10. please, don't shorten
  the text, print it like it is, thanx


                       oliver/amok





  a short statement

  we had to shorten the text as omg
  insulted sys once or twice to keep
  our mag objective.
  dear reader, if you wanna react in
  form of a letter which you want us
  to be printed in an issue of mamba,
  stick to the points, write objective
  and tell always the whole story in
  it's truth!
  we are sorry to give you a story this
  time (so-called truth) without prove.
  so we would like sys or whitnesses to
  correct this text if anyone got
  annoyed (or annoyed once again).
  f.a.o.-prpaganda is not allowed. red.
  about f.a.s.t.!
  ---------------
  what is f.a.s.t., you might wonder,
  right, i will tell you what 'fast'
  stands for. it means: federation
  against software theft. bullshit,
  that doesn't bother me i hear you say
  but it is more serious than you
  think!
  fast is an organisation who give a
  reward to people who can give them
  information about pirtes which lead
  to a prosecution and conviction!
  but, read it yourself what i have
  found....


    w h a t   y o u   c a n   d o
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  if you know anything about piracy,
  and in particular about an organisa-
  tion from the netherlands known as
  q u a r t e x, let f.a.s.t. know
  (tel.: XXXXXXXXXXXX - their helpline
  for entertainment and leisure soft-
  ware publishers association, elspa).
  or write and tell them: fast,132
  long acre, london wc2e 9ah. remember
  too there's a £1,000 reward for
  information leading to a prosecution
  and conviction!

  ..now you see they mean it,seriously!
  for further info write us and we
  might tell you in issue 12 what it
  is all about in particular, bye
  till then...

                     the mamba staff

  ...and don't think of bad ideas,
     you might lose friends...
     i mean it! as they do...


              mamba staff!
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