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      welcome to the 8:th issue of      
                                        
       \ THE TRIAD GAMERS GUIDE /       
                                        
 the guide is meant to give information 
 on all versions of a given game. it is 
 NOT meant to rank versions, cracks or  
 groups.                                
                                        
 however, we may appoint a version we   
 think is outstanding. this is based on 
 the understanding of the game and the  
 play value when adding cheat mode.     
 smart actions like a good iffl routine 
 cleanout of crap-code and so on, adds  
 cracker points.                        
                                        
 * joy for pages. shift-lock stops logo 

           \ GAMERS GUIDE /             
                                        
 games are added to the GUIDE as soon   
 as you send them to us. they will stay 
 in THE GUIDE for up to three issues    
 giving all a chance to appear.         
                                        
 we do NOT have time to hunt for all    
 versions. we do want ALL, but it is up 
 to you to help us get them.            
                                        
 at least we test them, but mostly we   
 also try to play through them. thus we 
 no longer accept only written reports. 
                                        
 versions are listed in order of their  
 length, shortest first. we do NOT      
 RANK the games on their length.        

            \ GAMERS GUIDE /            
                                        
 here are some rules we use.            
                                        
 separate pic, dox or other files are   
 not counted as part of the crack. when 
 they are left in the game, we note     
 this for fair comparison.              
                                        
 a highscore file or similar is not     
 counted as a separate file, but the    
 length is added to the crack.          
                                        
 highscore saver is noted as such but   
 not regarded as another '+'.           
                                        
 complaints we have on cracks are meant 
 as a help for you, not to make enemies 

 symbols used in the   \ GAMERS GUIDE / 
 -------------------------------------- 
 GROUP / CRACKER  - no explanation..... 
 F                - number of files.... 
 L                - length in blocks... 
 C                - number of cheats... 
                                        
 P                - picture in file.... 
 #                - dox with the crack. 
 A                - alleged first ..... 
                               release. 
 H                - highscore saver.... 
                    added to the game.. 
 I                - iffl routine....... 
                                        
 :) indicates >   - something nice .... 
 :(     a      >  - something less nice 
 * comment on >   - something ......... 

            \ GAMERS GUIDE /            
        the well earned credits.        
                                        
 INTRO.                                 
                                        
 code    :   801 dc.                    
 music   :   the dungeon master.        
 graphics:   wilson (fix by jerry)      
                                        
 GUIDE.                                 
             original idea by INJUN INC 
 code    :   hero.                      
 music   :   the dungeon master.        
 graphics:   otto von bismarck.         
                                        
 TEXT ED.:   rico of pretzel logic.     
                                        
 EDITORS :   bismarck and jerry.        

   in this issue                 week   
   ----------------------------------   
   atomino                        * 1   
   cylogic                        * 1   
   domino                         * 1   
   emlyn hughes arcade quiz         2   
   eskimo games                     2   
   firepit                          2   
   gremlins ii                      3   
   hazar                            3   
   imshi                          * 1   
   last ninja 3                     2   
   lotus esprit turbo challenge     2   
   lupo alberto                     3   
   mighty bombjack                  3   
   moon shadow                    * 1   
   narco police                   * 1   
   navy seal                      * 1   

   in this issue                 week   
   ----------------------------------   
   ninja rabbits                  * 1   
   oilmania                         3   
   pick'n'pile                    * 1   
   pure seed                        2   
   silk worm iv                     2   
   skidz                          * 1   
   star control                   * 1   
   super monaco grand prix          3   
   take'm                           2   
   turn & burn                      2   
   turn it 2                        3   
   vincent                          3   
   warlock  the avenger             3   
   wildfire                         2   
   -- here are 30 games and among ---   
   ---- them are 11 new entries. ----   

              \ atomino /               
 -------------------------------------- 
 group / cracker           f.   l.   c. 
 -------------------------------------- 
 hitmen    /---            3   149  --- 
 paramount /sting+maniac A 3   182  --- 
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
 -------------------------------------- 
 this must be a bit old and still we    
 got it only now.                       
                                        

              \ cylogic /               
 -------------------------------------- 
 group / cracker           f.   l.   c. 
 -------------------------------------- 
 hurricane /giants         1h   46  +2:)
 noice     /jive          41   131  --- 
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
 -------------------------------------- 
 :)passwords given also.                
                                        

              \ domino /                
 -------------------------------------- 
 group / cracker           f.   l.   c. 
 -------------------------------------- 
 hitmen    /cevin          1h   66  +2  
 light     /grayzor        1h   67  +3  
 trc+tbi   /cba        v2  1h   67  +3  
 dynamix   /god            1h   70  +4  
 wow       /topic          1h   70  +2  
 x-factor  /ace+hulk+waith 1h   71  --- 
 trc+tbi   /cba        v1  1h   75  +1  
 brutal    /maniac         1h   96  +1  
 bad taste /b.c.bill       1h  108  --- 
 the force /danny          1h  174! --- 
                                        
 -------------------------------------- 
 two versions from trc+tbi. don't ask   
 me why!                                

      \ emlyn hughes arcade quiz /      
 -------------------------------------- 
 group / cracker           f.   l.   c. 
 -------------------------------------- 
 triad     /bismarck       8   526  --- 
 light     /shade          8   526:)--- 
 illusion  /richie       A 8#  559  --- 
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
 -------------------------------------- 
 :)shade says in the scroller that he   
 didn't bother to pack much. then his   
 version must be longer than the triad  
 version that was packed!!!          :) 

 p1         \ eskimo games /            
 -------------------------------------- 
 group / cracker           f.   l.   c. 
 -------------------------------------- 
 bonzai    /crush          9 * 456  +3  
 dynamix   /god            7h  547  --- 
 paramount /sting          7h  551  --- 
 x-rated   /kaschow        7   551  --- 
 afl+tf    /max            6   557  --- 
 hotliine  /custard+cessp. 8h  572:)--- 
 rruler    /lanoline       8h  575  +11 
 legend+nei/tmbc+pwp     A 8   595  --- 
 slime     /betrayer       6   596  --- 
 titron    /sledge         8   611  --- 
 x-factor  /dexter         7   618  --- 
 action    /crisp          8h  640:)--- 
                                        
 ----------------- comments ----------> 

 p2         \ eskimo games /            
 -------------------------------------- 
 comments                               
 -------------------------------------- 
 * the short bonzai version has the     
   intro as a separate file             
                                        
 :)action has supplied a highscore      
   renewal kit.                         
                                        
 :)the hotline fastloader added.        
                                        
                                        
                                        
 -------------------------------------- 
 a kewl game by double density and a    
 packing-system by ivo herzeg, better   
 known as mr. cursor or what?           

               \ firepit /  .           
 -------------------------------------- 
 group / cracker           f.   l.   c. 
 -------------------------------------- 
 triad     /bismarck       1   104  +1  
 bonzai    /enjoy          1   105  +3:(
 action    /spitfire       1 :(105  +1  
 hittmen   /curlin         1   107  +1  
 dynamix   /god            1   108  +3  
 paramount /sting+maniac   1 * 116  +2  
 slime     /betrayer       1   120  +1  
 pulsar    /defjam         1   134  +3:(
 noice     /jive           1   156  --- 
 acc       /jes+yon        1   156  --- 
 (p)+atc   /sting+maniac A 1 * 173  --- 
 titron    /sledge         4   183  +1  
                                        
 ----------------- for comments ------> 

               \ firepit /  .           
 -------------------------------------- 
 group / cracker           f.   l.   c. 
 -------------------------------------- 
 * different (p)-intros on the two      
   versions.                            
                                        
 :(the game file has no intro at all.   
   the game intro is supplied as a      
 separatee file and the crack intro is  
 put on this file.                      
                                        
 :(double cheats on bonzai & pulsar.    
                                        
 A we think (p) had the true first rel. 
                                        
                                        
                                        

             \ gremlins ii /            
 -------------------------------------- 
 group / cracker           f.   l.   c. 
 -------------------------------------- 
 light     /shade          8   248  +4  
 bonzai    /crush          8   255  +4  
 extasy    /rock-*        10   259  +3  
 hurricane /giants        10h  262  +3  
 i+t       /fletch         2i  268  +3  
 sharks    /zap            2ip 272  +7  
 action    /spitfire      10h  278  +3  
 accuracy  /mr.dj          8   283  +5  
 wow       /shackee        9   296  +4  
 censor    /p,c.ltd        7p  298  +6  
 hotline   /custa.+cessp.  7p  301  +3:)
 neotech   /cyber+mhz     13  1106! +5  
 -------------------------------------- 
 :)the hotline fastloader included.     

 p1            \ hazar /                
 -------------------------------------- 
 group / cracker           f.   l.   c. 
 -------------------------------------- 
 hotline   /custa.+cessp.  1    58  +1  
 triad     /bismarck       1    61  +1  
 hellk.    /highkicker     1    61  --- 
 tribe     /capone         1    64  --- 
 omega     /---            1    64  --- 
 bonzai    /enjoy          1    65  +1  
 titron    /freddy         1    65  +1  
 hitmen    /curlin         1    66  +1  
 chromance /gizmo          1    66  +1  
 razor     /calvin         1    69  +1  
 hurrican  /the giants     1h   74  +1  
 acc       /conductor      1    75  --- 
 manowar   /m+c            1    77  +1  
 - comments & more -------------------> 

 p2            \ hazar /                
 -------------------------------------- 
 group / cracker           f.   l.   c. 
 -------------------------------------- 
 dunex     /spikes         1    78  --- 
 dynamix   /god            1    80  +1  
 ddt       /the master     1    81  --- 
 ddt       /blockbuster    1    81  --- 
 pulsar    /defjam         1    83  +1  
 x-ray     /chrys.+arrog.  1    83  +1  
 tristar   /jayce+partym.  1    88  --- 
 afl       / ---           1    92  --- 
 paramount /maniac         1    93  --- 
 accuracy  /mr.dj          1    94 pasw 
 noice     /jive           1   110  --- 
 action+nei/gadget     :)A 1   116  +1  
 -------------------------------------- 
 :)we beleive action realy were first.  

               \ imshi /                
 -------------------------------------- 
 group / cracker           f.   l.   c. 
 -------------------------------------- 
 hitmen    /cevin          2i  140  +7  
 razor     /calvin         5   161  +3  
 stash     /godfather      5   170  +4  
 x-rated   /inf.+ozyom.  A 5   178  +4  
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
 -------------------------------------- 
                                        

            \ last ninja 3 /            
 -------------------------------------- 
 group / cracker           f.   l.   c. 
 -------------------------------------- 
 fairlight /GOLLUM         7#  806  +3  
 i+t       /doc+fletch     8   875  +2  
 censor    /p.c.ltd             ?       
 illusion  /            A 12  1102  +4  
                                        
                                        
 ------------ disk version ------------ 
 triad     /king fisher   12# 1045  +1  
 paragon   /poseidon      19# 1057  +7  
 hotine    /custard+cessp.10  1070  +4  
                                        
 -------------------------------------- 
 are those all versions of this classic 
                                        

    \ lotus esprit turbo challenge /    
 -------------------------------------- 
 group / cracker           f.   l.   c. 
 -------------------------------------- 
 i+t       /fletch          2i 446  +2  
 action    /hok+spitfire   45* 464  +1  
 x-faktor  /dexter         45  467  +2  
 f4cg      /mao+adf        45  481  +1  
 illusion  /richie+sauron  45  484  +2  
 nei/legend/---          A 44  491  +2  
 arm       /ex-m           34  549  +3  
 a 451     /odin           59  556  +1  
 spirit    /insider        57  953  --- 
 -------------------------------------- 
 * fastloader routin by crisp... good!  
                                        
 legend had the real first release!     
                                        

            \ lupo alberto /            
 -------------------------------------- 
 group / cracker           f.   l.   c. 
 -------------------------------------- 
 f4cg      /new style     3i   318  +6  
 f4cg      /fen1          21#  323  +3  
 triad     /king fisher   22   325  +4:(
 action+nei/spitfire    A 22   373  +3  
 pulsar    /defjam        58   590  +3  
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
 -------------------------------------- 
 :(when you choose unlimited lives in   
 2-player mode only one player gets it! 
                                        

 p1        \ mighty bombjack /          
 -------------------------------------- 
 group / cracker           f.   l.   c. 
 -------------------------------------- 
 light     /shade          1   122  +2  
 razor     /calvin         1   125  +2  
 triad     /tracer         1   125  +2  
 illusion  /fist+hero      1   126  +2  
 bonzai    /enjoy          1   126  +2  
 hurricane /luke           1   135  +1  
 x-factor  /ecco      v2   1   135  +2  
 trc+tbi   /xenon          1   136  +2  
 akrak     /sodom          1   139  +4:(
 dunex     /spikess        1   143  +2  
 sharks    /zap            1p  144  +3  
 ------------------ more -------------> 
                                        
 :(2 double cheat!                      

 p2        \ mighty bombjack /          
 -------------------------------------- 
 group / cracker           f.   l.   c. 
 -------------------------------------- 
 dominators/d-ram          1   145  +3  
 brutal    /tch            1   145  +4  
 extasy    /rockstar       1   147  +2  
 x-factor  /ecco           1   148  +2  
 hotline   /custard+cessp. 1p  163  +2  
 censor    /p,c.ltd        1p  165  +2  
 legend+nei/---          A 1   185  +2  
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
 -------------------------------------- 
 ecco made 2 versions for x-factor for  
 some reason.                           

            \ moon shadow /             
 -------------------------------------- 
 group / cracker           f.   l.   c. 
 -------------------------------------- 
 dominators/rebel+nme      2   229  +2  
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
 -------------------------------------- 
                                        

             \ narco police /           
 -------------------------------------- 
 group / cracker           f.   l.   c. 
 -------------------------------------- 
 triad     /tracer         5   269  +2  
 arm       /ex-m           5   287  +9  
 f4cg      /mao          A 7#  332  +2  
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
 -------------------------------------- 
 you surely need the dox to know what   
 the heck this is about!                

             \ navy seal /              
 -------------------------------------- 
 group / cracker           f.   l.   c. 
 -------------------------------------- 
 hotline   /custard+cessp. 2i  341  +4:)
 legend+nei/---           28   389  +5  
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
 -------------------------------------- 
 :)hotline fast loader included         
                                        
                                        

            \ ninja rabbits /           
 -------------------------------------- 
 group / cracker           f.   l.   c. 
 -------------------------------------- 
 triad     /bismarck       4   230  +2  
 hotline   /custard+cessp. 4   260  +3:)
 nei+legend/pwp+tmbc (?)   4   297  +2  
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
 -------------------------------------- 
 :)with the hotline fast loader         
                                        

 p1          \ oil mania /              
 -------------------------------------- 
 group / cracker           f.   l.   c. 
 -------------------------------------- 
 triad     /tracer         8   146  +5  
 accuracy  /mr.dj          8h  156  +6  
 f4cg      /fen1           8   158  +5:(
 bonzai    /crush          2i  160  +9  
 razor     /calvin         8   163  +3  
 omega     /---            8   164  +2  
 ddt       /blockbuster    8   171  +4  
 trc+tbi   /cba            8   173  +2  
 hitmen    /cevin        :)1ih 173  +7  
 brutal    /tch            8   177  +8  
 manowar   /m+c            8   182  +3  
 dunex     /spikes         8   183  +5  
 hurricane /the giants     8h  184  +3  
 - comments & more versions ----------> 

 p2          \ oil mania /              
 -------------------------------------- 
 group / cracker           f.   l.   c. 
 -------------------------------------- 
 spirit    /insider        1   189  +4  
 collision /tony           1   190  +4  
 sunrise   /sentinel       1   199  +6  
 pulsar    /transfer       8   201  +6  
 bronx     /scotch         1   206  +5  
 x-rated   /dwarf          9h  206  +3  
 cult      /section        8:( 349  +1  
 akrak     /sodom+ slaug.  8   372  +1  
 noice     /jive           9   418  --- 
 -------------------------------------- 
 :(f4cg. no collision on 1 and 2 cheat. 
   i think that's a double cheat, or?   
                                        
 A first release by alfa flight.        

            \ pick'n'pile /             
 -------------------------------------- 
 group / cracker           f.   l.   c. 
 -------------------------------------- 
 triad     /bismarck       1    87  +2  
 i+t       /bod            1   101  +2  
 hitmen    /jihad          1   113  +2  
 lru/f4cg  /---            1   119  +2  
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
 -------------------------------------- 
                                        

             \ pure seed /              
 -------------------------------------- 
 group / cracker           f.   l.   c. 
 -------------------------------------- 
 paramount /sting+maniac   1h   76  --- 
 hitmen    /curlin         1h   77  +3  
 acc       /thomas         1h   78  +3  
 dynamix   /god            1h   79  +3  
 titron    /sledge         1h   79  +1  
 slime     /betrayer       1h   88  --- 
 bonzai    /enjoy          1h   92  +3  
 x-factor  /ace+hulk+waith 1h   98  +3  
 brutal    /maniac         1h  116  +2  
 noice     /jive           1h  123  --- 
 nei/action/spitf./gadg. A 1h  127  +2  
 pulsar    /defjam         1h  170  +2  
                                        
 -------------------------------------- 

             \ silkworm iv /            
 -------------------------------------- 
 group / cracker           f.   l.   c. 
 -------------------------------------- 
 triad     /king fisher    5   283  +5  
 ilusion   /richie+fist    6   285  +5  
 hotline   /custard+cessp. 5   318  +2:)
 dominators/rebel+nme      5   323  +3  
 i+t       /bod           A5   326  +1  
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
 -------------------------------------- 
 :)the hotline fast loader included     
                                        
 snake protection on silkworm iv game!  
 A first out by ikari+talent, again...  

               \ skidz /                
 -------------------------------------- 
 group / cracker           f.   l.   c. 
 -------------------------------------- 
 bonzai    /enjoy          1    80  +2  
 x-factor  /ace+hulk+waith 1    82  +3  
 bad taste /b-bill         1   126  +4  
 trc+tbi   /cba            1   128  +2  
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
 -------------------------------------- 
                                        

             \ star control /           
 -------------------------------------- 
 group / cracker           f.   l.   c. 
 -------------------------------------- 
 light     /shade          1   103  --- 
 triad     /spirou         1   105  --- 
 nei/legend/---            1   184  --- 
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
 -------------------------------------- 
                                        

      \ super monaco grand prix /       
 -------------------------------------- 
 group / cracker           f.   l.   c. 
 -------------------------------------- 
 triad     /bismarck       1   125  --- 
 dynamix   /god            1p  150  --- 
 hurricane /giants         1p  161  --- 
 arm       /robin hood     1   170  --- 
 s451      /the gnome      3p  171  --- 
 action    /spitfire       1p  177  --- 
 censor+nei/p.c.ltd.     A 1p  191  --- 
 x-ray     /chrysagon      1p  193  --- 
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
 -------------------------------------- 
                                        

               \ take'm /               
 -------------------------------------- 
 group / cracker           f.   l.   c. 
 -------------------------------------- 
 paramount /sting+maniac   1    41  --- 
 dynamix   /god            1    60  --- 
 x-factor  /ace-hulk-wai. 19    65  --- 
 spalters  /pipifax       18    67  --- 
 acc       /---           16    71  --- 
 brutal    /maniac        13    79  --- 
 noice     /jive+joshua   20    90  --- 
 pulsar    /defjam         1   121  --- 
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
 -------------------------------------- 
                                        

             \ turn & burn /            
 -------------------------------------- 
 group / cracker           f.   l.   c. 
 -------------------------------------- 
 stash     /godfather     12   377  +8  
 hotline   /               2i:)385  +1  
 titron    /sledge        23   392  +4  
 wow       /topic         22   410  +2  
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
 -------------------------------------- 
 :)fastloader and passwords...          
                                        

              \ turn it 2 /             
 -------------------------------------- 
 group / cracker           f.   l.   c. 
 -------------------------------------- 
 hitmen    /cevin          1    80  +2  
 bonzai    /enjoy          1    82  +2  
 dynamix   /god            1    83  +2  
 tribe     /capone         1    85  +2  
 hitmen    /curlin       * 1h   87  +2  
 trc+tbi   /xenon          1    91  +2  
 brutal    /maniac         1    97  +2  
 wow       /vinzz          1    97  +2  
 dominators/d-ram          1   108  +1  
 trc+tbi   /cba            1   108  +1  
 tristar   /madman         1   120  --- 
 genesis p./antichrist  A               
 -------------------------------------- 
 * the only working highscore-saver.    

 p1           \ vincent /               
 -------------------------------------- 
 group / cracker           f.   l.   c. 
 -------------------------------------- 
 triad     /king fisher   46h  548  +15 
 fairlight /bacchus       48h  587:)+5  
 i+t       /fletch         2hi 591  +7  
 acc       /thomas        52h  605  +3  
 x-factor  /dexter        51p  612  +5  
 x-rated   /kaschow            616:)+4  
 triumwyrat/sylvio        55h  620  +4  
 crazy     /jinx          52   622  +13 
 s 451     /odin          53   622  +5  
 illusion  /fra.+magic m. 50   637:)+5* 
 sioux     /---           53   638  +9:(
 titron    /freddy        53   657  --- 
                                        
 ------------------ comments ---------> 

 p2           \ vincent /               
 -------------------------------------- 
 group / cracker           f.   l.   c. 
 -------------------------------------- 
 * 1  code.                             
                                        
 :(3 double cheats.                     
                                        
 :)intro left in game.                  
                                        
 :)dox and pic included in the x-rated  
   version.                             
                                        
                                        
 -------------------------------------- 
 if you have the triad version, make    
 sure the last level's filename has an  
 upper case 'X' and not the lover case. 

 p1    \ warlock - the avenger! /       
 -------------------------------------- 
 group / cracker           f.   l.   c. 
 -------------------------------------- 
 s451      /the gnome      1    89  +6  
 chromance /alex           1    96  +10 
 illusion  /fist           1#  101  +8  
 genesis p./the goblin     1   101  +7  
 chromance /mr. wax        1   109  +5  
 x-ray     /chrysagon      1   111:(+14 
 brutal    /tch            1   114  +8  
 pulsar    /transfer       1   114  +8  
 dunex     /spikes         1   116  +7  
 sunrise   /sentinel       1   118  +9  
                                        
                                        
 - more ------------------------------> 
                                        

 p2    \ warlock - the avenger! /       
 -------------------------------------- 
 group / cracker           f.   l.   c. 
 -------------------------------------- 
 extasy    /rockstar       1   121  +7  
 cult      /section        1   122  +4  
 crazy     /jinx           1#  127  +9  
 paragon   /hellraiser     1   134  +9  
 f4cg      /mao            1   137  +6  
 action+nei/gadget       A 1   164  +4  
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
 -------------------------------------- 
 :(a bundle of double cheat.            
                                        

               \ wildfire /             
 -------------------------------------- 
 group / cracker           f.   l.   c. 
 -------------------------------------- 
 light     /gryzor         1h  106  +4  
 x-factor  /ace+hulk+waith 1h  109  +2  
 hitmen    /cevin          1h  110:(+3  
 genesis p./antichrist    A1h  114  +3  
 brutal    /maniac         1h* 121  --- 
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
 -------------------------------------- 
 * the g+p highscore table was not      
   removed from the brutal crack ??     
 :(a minor graphix bug at level skip.   

        \ defending the guide /         
 -------------------------------------- 
 our former member CLERIC has spread a  
 rumour that TRIAD cracked OILMANIA     
 long after all others, only to get the 
 shortest version for THE GUIDE.        
                                        
 TRACER cracked it the days before the  
 hz-party and brought it there. this    
 was more than a week after some others 
 but nothing unusual in that when the   
 original gets to us from germany.      
                                        
 before ANYONE got a copy, the disk was 
 lost at the party. a week later it     
 turned up in HERO's disk box. then of  
 course we didn't bother to spread it   
 and we didn't put it on our board, --> 

        \ defending the guide /         
 -------------------------------------- 
 but we did send it to a few of our     
 fans who realy want ALL TRIAD wares.   
                                        
 the day after we kicked cleric out, he 
 wrote a hysteric notefile accusing     
 TRIAD of just about everything.        
                                        
 this of course was gold for some       
 certain assholes who look for ANY      
 reason to spread crap about THE GUIDE  
 and TRIAD. they decided to accuse us   
 of cheating to get short versions for  
 THE GUIDE. they realy know this is not 
 true. they just take the chance to     
 spread the suspicion. our contacts     
 of course also knows what goes.  --->  

        \ defending the guide /         
 -------------------------------------- 
 there are a few groups who have very   
 fast and reliable supliers.            
                                        
 other groups get their originals from  
 contacts and often in the mail. anyone 
 with a trace of a brain understands    
 that this costs time and there is no   
 cheating what so ever when the cracks  
 from those groups are released later.  
                                        
 cleric promised to get us HOT games.   
 we got ONE! a few rare times we have   
 found a fast game on a store-shelf.the 
 rest of the games we crack in TRIAD    
 come from our good friends. if that is 
 cheating most of us cheat.             

          \ the fucking wall /          
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 say triad and all is said /a. einstein 
 when sun goes up the sky goes down,    
 when my dick goes up the girls go... . 
 -------------------------------------- 
 a guy called RUN DMC of tristar        
 re-cracked about 4 - 5 games. one of   
 them is the game 'DIE', that TRIAD had 
 a first release on. we got his excuse. 
                                        
 we still have no excuse from probe. he 
 re-cracked 'turn it 2'. when this was  
 discovered he accused TRIAD. in that   
 case, where is the TRIAD version?      
                                        
 volker/amok=code master/g+p is coding  
 on the new outfit of 'corruption'.     

          \ the fucking wall /          
 -------------------------------------- 
 pimpernel joined s451 which means that 
 terminal state now is a s451 board.    
                                        
 rumours say that bismarck and tracer   
 has joined s451.                       
 they say: "we are not stupid!"         
                                        
 in vinews #6 it was said that we will  
 stop making THE GUIDE unless it gets   
 some votes. that is NOT the case. we   
 make THE GUIDE bacuse we like doing    
 it and we know that a lot of people    
 like it. on the other hand, voting for 
 THE GUIDE probably wouldn't hurt.      
                                        
 skidz a production from crept/flash.   

          \ the fucking wall /          
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 :(aktie is decreasing his phone bill.  
                                        
 odin is coding on a new game!          
                                        
 :)mega tetris soon out! now it is out! 
                                        
 rubicon soon out!                      
                                        
 sodapop and macho joined flash inc. so 
 paradize now is a flash inc. board.    
                                        
 :)there's an argument between midnight 
   mover and macho on where to post.    
                                        
 bad taste got two new members:         
 moni and hissch!                       

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 ruthless is dead. they joined hitmen!  
                                        
 :)hitmen now is dead????               
                                        
 :)william godwin is deaaaaaaaaaaad!    
                                        
 ikari+talent ripped a tune, specially  
 made for a hotline intro by a friend.  
 hotline wasn't happy about that!       
                                        
 :)there's an argument between midnight 
   mover and macho on where to post.    
                                        
 the game BRUBAKER was stolen at the hz 
 party. it is in german. DONĀ“T spread   
 it. give gotcha a chance to sell it.   

          \ the fucking wall /          
 -------------------------------------- 
 madman and run dmc/tristar re-cracked  
 the freezed b.t.f.3 preview and told   
 every body they got it from LEGEND.    
                                        
 veda of g+p stoped!                    
                                        
 antichrist says: iffl was invented in  
 1989 by snacky of g+p and TRIAD don't  
 know anything about iffl.              
                                        
 :(transcom nicked the code for badnews 
   and wrote #3. the guys in transcome  
   must love bad news!                  
                                        
 future zone is no antic board!         
                              :)-:)-->  

           \ fatal portrait /           
 -------------------------------------- 
 yes, today we got an interview with an 
 old cracker in illusion.               
 and remember, richie+sauron will not   
 quit the scene as rumours says...      
 -------------------------------------- 
                                        
 starring:                              
                                        
 > = otto von bismarck for gamers guide 
                                        
                                        
 guest star:                            
                                        
 * = rocky of illusion                  
                                        
 -------------------------------------> 

 > welcome to the show pal!             
                                        
 *  thank you bisse!                    
                                        
 > aye, can you tell us something fun   
   about you..                          
                                        
 *  ok. as you know my name is ROCKY    
   of ILLUSION. i'm 18 years old and i  
   live in norway of'cuz...             
                                        
 > how'd you enter the scene and when?  
                                        
 *  i got into business in february'87  
   and got a c=64+20' television from   
   my parents. i wasn't in any group    
   until april'87, when i got a 1541-   
   disk drive and started up a group  > 

 * called 'the hit-pack' (thp) along    
   with HOT DOG.                        
   i started trading and we coded some  
   demos.                               
    in january'88 me+hot dog joined     
   RAWHEAD, wich meant more swapping    
   and more coding on demos.            
    rawhead became boring and when ZTH  
   and POWER of HIDDEN FORCES asked us  
   to join up - we accepted.            
    happend in may'88 and in june the   
   same year of'cuz thf joined forces   
   with LCS norway and we chose the     
   name ABNORMAL.                       
    we were a bunch of cool guys (kalla 
   pojkar) and had a lot of fun doing   
   demos like unicorn 1-2 & seeker 3-8. 
    i did some cracking and swapped   > 

 * like hell. we grew quite much and    
   the first year we mainly made demos. 
    in the spring/summer of '89,        
   i began cracking a lot of games and  
   did less and less demos...           
    aye, ILLUSION was formed at our     
   copy-party in june'89 and i had      
   known SAURON+GARFIELD for years,     
   (lots of nice  visits!).             
    i didn't join up with 'em, but      
   stayed in ABNORMAL. but in september 
   1989, after months of pressure,      
   i joined ILS and FIST+HERO  also     
   followed my move...                  
    i'm still a member of ILS and i've  
   had a lot of fun cracking, swapping  
   and during my time in ILS i've only  
   visited one party, DOM/UF party.   > 

 *  too bad really! much of the fun is  
   gone these days. i've grown up a bit 
    the games are worse, GARFIELD has   
   left. still i haven't quit, so i     
   guess you'll have to hear about me   
   in the future too!  i'm very lazy    
   though. i've stopped spending money  
    on originals too!.. hmn..           
                                        
 > are you a good coder today?          
                                        
 *  if i compare myself to the coders   
   today (leadinng demo-coders),        
   i'm not much of a coder.             
   but i think that i'm an ok coder     
   after all..                          
                                        
                                      > 

 > why did you start cracking?          
                                        
 *  i started cracking because i got    
   some nice originals. i knew SAURON/  
   FUTURE (ILS)+GARFIELD and i wanted   
   to give 'em some competion.          
    it's kinda fun cracking too!        
                                        
 > have you tried cracking from cart-   
   ridge and what do you think of it?   
                                        
 *  yes, i've tried cracking from cart. 
   i think it was more difficult than   
   tape-cracking, but easier than i ex- 
   pected.                              
    too bad i don't receive very HOT    
   originals on cartridge, too bad!     
                                      > 

 > what's your first crack?             
                                        
 *  my first cracks ever were:          
   laurel & hardy + solomons key.       
   if i had been a good cracker in 1987 
   i could have put out lots of cool    
   games, rember RDI (RAW DEAL INC.)    
   with laffen doing fast cracks?       
                                        
 > what about your best crack?          
                                        
 *  i don't know! maybe it's indy 3+5m, 
   ninja spirit +5?  and lots of        
   others. not one really particular.   
   i'm not so selfish, so i don't know! 
                                        
                                        
                                      > 

 > your worst crack then?               
                                        
 *  i think it's supertrux+ (elite).    
   oh, the music in the intro fucks up  
   after a while, sorry! ehmn...        
                                        
 > tell me about your hardest crack.    
                                        
 *  well, it must be one of my first    
   tape cracks + timex disks.           
                                        
 > have you ever re-cracked anything?   
                                        
 *  no, never, and i never will!        
                                        
 > what about best cracking groups?     
                                        
 *  legend, dom, i+t  and us ils he!    

 > and the best crackers today!         
                                        
 *  it's doc/ikari, pwp+tmbc/legend.    
                                        
 > worst cracking groups then?          
                                        
 *  it's trauma/holocaust or whatever,  
   sabian, dr. fool of censor (no off-  
   ence to the other guys in censor.)   
                                        
 > worst crackers...                    
                                        
                                        
 *  dystan, my little brother thomas.   
   and aaron of fairlight are the       
   biggest LAMERS in the scene.         
                                        
                                      > 

 > what tools do you use then?          
                                        
 *  well, till now i've used almost     
   EVERYTHING! but from now i will only 
   use our own special productions.     
   like: -best equal char packer ever   
          by FIST of ILLUSION.          
    others i used alot already are:     
   mega cruncher v6+ (not made by us!)  
   mega cruncher level version with     
   speed loading and depackrutine.      
   and i use an action replay v5 too.   
                                        
 * what do you think of using short or  
   fat intros on cracks?                
                                        
 >  good question! (thanx ed.) i've no- 
   ticed that lots of groups put on   > 

 * short and ugly in intros in order to 
   do the shortest versions.            
    that reallt sucks, i think it's     
   more fun reading a cool scrolltext   
   and watching a nice intro with a     
   funky tune in it too. if for example 
   a short intro is required to get a   
   game in one disc-side, i understand. 
    some groups that use ugly & boring  
   intro are: light, triad (thanx ed.)  
   bonzai and many others...            
    better intros: ils, legend, i+t,    
   action,x-ray and others..            
    i also want to say that fairlight's 
   old intro is kinda short but very    
   nice. their new one is so damned     
   ugly so i can't understand why they  
   use it. -heja sverige! says rocky! > 

 > what about cheat modes and double    
   cheats and so on?...                 
                                        
 *  i think trainers are necessary for  
   lots of games but as everything      
   else, things have got a little out   
   of hand: we can of couse see double- 
   triple trained games and often from  
   GERMANY (deutschland uber alles,     
   nicht wahr?). he, it's nice to see   
   that most people are reasonable and  
   rag on this shit!                    
    unlimited trainers?                 
                                        
 > the hardest protections you tried?   
                                        
 *  the timex protections are rather    
    complicated (or should i say WERE > 

 * rather complicated). seems as if     
   nothing is hard these days!          
   (then try king fishers! it's nearly, 
   if not totally impossible to crack!) 
                                        
 > what do you think about the standard 
   of the games today?                  
                                        
 *  hahaha! well, i'm not the right     
   person to ask coz i'm not a gamer    
   anymore. but from my point of view   
   most games are unoriginal and equal  
   to other games.                      
    sometimes a good game shows up,     
   but i don't go around waiting for    
   THAT game now. i remeber when last   
   ninja + defender of the crown arr-   
   ived! but let's stop it there,     > 

 * those days will never return.        
    i'm getting older and there's noth- 
   ing i can do about it.               
                                        
 > what's the best software company to  
   you?                                 
                                        
 *  SYSTEM 3 - and no thinking!         
   i just say ik+, international karate 
   and the last ninja trilogy, i spent  
   DAYS with the number one and two.    
   tusker+vendetta is also good, my     
   brother played those!                
    that reason is enough!!             
                                        
 > what do do you think about the crac- 
   ing scene today? and how do want to  
   change it?                           

 *  i think the cracking scene today is 
   boring (me 2! /ed.) compared to what 
   it was a few years back.             
   (when triad ruled? /ed.)             
    the same groups kick ass all the    
   time and there are no big chances.   
    the 64-releases are now too few     
   at least from quality companies and  
   the amiga is about to take over.     
    matter fact it has already!         
    i'm very happy that i don't care    
   THAT MUCH about being THE BEST any-  
   longer, i'm just doing a crack now   
   and then... etc.                     
    too many guys take things too seri- 
   ously (i did a while ago too!).      
    there are also too many groups      
   doing the games                   >  

 * sometimes weex later and everything  
   goes in the same style.              
    to be honest i liked the scene      
   before and spent alot of time crack- 
   ing. now i have come to a time where 
   i take a beer instead (same here/ed) 
    i'm sure that YOU TOO think that    
   the life beside the computer is most 
   important! if not, wake up and get   
   outta the trance!!                   
                                        
 > what do you think about speed and    
   quality? which part is the most imp? 
                                        
 *  speed+quality together is the best! 
   i think that speed counts a lot, but 
   it's worthless if the game is not    
   100% working.                      > 

 *  i don't care if the game has 3 or 5 
   trainers (not much at least) or if   
   one version is 20 blocks longer than 
   another.                             
    but if a group can do fast, well    
   cracked+tested games i admire them.  
    big games should be levelpacked.    
   it's boring getting a QUALITY vers-  
   ion 2 weeks after the others!        
    quantity is also very important.    
                                        
 > can you mentiion some groups with    
   speed and no quality?                
                                        
 *  yes, some german groups.            
                                        
 > quality and no speed then?           
                                      > 

 *  light, snacky/g*p (sometimes snacky 
   can be quick too!)                   
   speed and  quality: legend, ikari+   
   talent (sometimes), ils.             
    g*p can also be fast.               
   dominators (?).                      
                                        
 > what do you think about the idea of  
   the gamers guide?                    
                                        
 *  puh! the gamers guide is very nice  
   i think. hope there won't be any     
   COPIES out coz it's enough with one  
   mag like that, keep rocking guys!!!  
                                        
 > thanx rocky for the interview. it    
   has been very much fun!              
   do you have any last words?        > 

 *  yeah, sure. i would like to give    
   you an advice, start drinking, get a 
   cool girl, get an education and DO   
   NOT take the computer too seriously! 
                                        
    a few,'hi pals' to:                 
                                        
   stein (ex. garfield/ils), bismarck,  
   antichrist, gadget, all in illusion, 
   all in fairlight+light, hulskster,   
   derbyshire ram, wave, narc, jumpie,  
   zth, dogfriend, chrysagon, marc and  
   all my other friends...              
                                        
   faithfully... rocky of illusion!     
                                        
                                        
 >  watch out 'till next issue! /ed.    

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