Jamaica 10 ch13 The Future
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the future iopop ---------------------------------------- welcome! well, you maybe read this chapter last time. i told about what i thought about the old scene. and what we could do to improve the scene with new things. well,i received a reaction on my article which i thought was good enough for publishing : -- -- -- HI IOPOP OF JAM! you may ask why i (SLAYER/THE REMEBERS) leave you some mail. nope it isn't for swapping. it is just because about your article in the latest jamaica where you wrote something about "the future"... you asked for some reactions and here is one from me... at first you talked about the mystic of some groups. the leading groups in 1988- 1991 or better let me say "past", were fairlight, legend, genesis project, illusion, crest, triad and maybe some more where active. but you are right most of them are quite unactive nowdays! you spoke about the mystic and legend of those old groups and that as you get in contact with one of those groups you got a better standard of swapping. yes, indeed this is true. but do you really think it isn't the same thing nowdays? ask some real newcomers and give them the chance about a pal in oxyron or crest! they would be quite happy! i must say,the main thing is the same, you get better known and so on if you have some pals in the leading groups! but today the real "elite" is too easy to reach! i remember some years ago. it was in the year of 1990 when i started to get a bit knowledge of the scene. i got a neigh- bour called highlander/ex.compagnions and he showed me lots of stuff and told me alot about the scene and its rules. after some thinking i started swapping abit. but i never reached the real elite these days. it was impossible because of no answers and the "elite" thinking, there was too much fight of being elite and so on.. but what do i say, i think you probably know about it. these days i had real problems to get cool stuff(+1days or so) real good addies or boardnumbers. then i stopped all swapping and started back in the beginning of the last year (1993) and what happened? guess, it was too easy to find some cool pals, the thinking of elite was over. the scene changed without my knowledge. more friendship came and 0 days stuff wasn't that important anymore. strange? nope, too many young and new guys entered(like me!) and the real elite was doing there job until now. i guess the whole real scene moved to the boards, didn't they? you said that the days of "the elite" is over and that it's good. nope in my opinion not! because when the hard rules and charts was very important everyone tried to release as much as possible and tried to around as fast as possible. nowdays it isn't like this i think. for example i have got a swapper in a leading cracking group as pal. he supplys me the crack of anything about 1 week after it was on the boards!! far too long. no one is interested anymore. in the past it was spreadest as fast as possible, wasn't it? the whole thinking of being the best animated everyone to do his best. much more demos were released and so on. i remember that i went to my neighbour nearly every evening and i got about 5 disx full of new and really hot stuff! today i get the same a week! strange isn't it? i think because of no elite thinking, guys get lazy. no matter if we release it today or in 2 weeks.... who carez? i care, because of this opinion everyone gets lazy and no one wants to do anything. quite silly! sometimes i think it is much better to have the old rulez! but now something other, you talked about the old legends, triad and so on. there were some guyz you showed up to. interesting but you said you are in for about 5 years or so, aren't you? so, do you ever thought that you maybe are the person that some others are looking at today? some time ago it was mr.z from triad and the snacky/g*p, spitfire/action and how they are named. but today other people took over the leading postion. the oldies are gone. you got the place now! think about tabasco. you know him i think. he got the offer to join fairlight, everyone will do it if he get this cool offer. this group is cult, too but now not others are the sign for fairlight, not others are the guys to look at, he is it now, he is now in the group of legendary! so he can't look at someone really coz he realy reached the top! think about this pleez! i devided the scene into: * * * * 1 * ******* * * * 2 * * * *************** * * * 3 * * * *********************** 1. top. real legends and producing groups. 2. wants to be cool but are not that good, normal scene i would say. 3. beginners, start. guys and groups who aren't wellknown but they give their best. i hope you noticed what i mean if you ever reached the top you are no.1 and can' look up to anyone, you must think about hardly! --- --- --- the next thing is that the mass producing of stuff for our good old machine(games) is over! so, don't wonder about the cracking services.... i remember those demos for the game on and magic disk games: "do us a favor and don't crack those lame games..." (if i think right it was a g*p demo?) nowadayz half the crax i see are those cp-verlag ones and this are all game on and magic disk games originally. maybe you know super nibble, salvia kid, bobix, fred's back 1,2,3 for example. the illegal scene is dying coz of a lack of originals and so on.... but the legal scene,is just doing nothing also the whole knowledge is growing! this is the fact i mentioned some lines ago, the thinking of "we have too much time". let it delay who carez? the past showed that both illegal and legal scene gave their best to kick our asses! but you noticed yourself, legal stuff is rare, only mags and mags and more mags. sometimes i get about 3 discs only mags! must that be? what is about one major mag concerning from 3 mags? much better..... for more talking about this theme,for swapping and so on try... SLAYER/THE REMEMBERS XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX no cheating pleez! 4 100% to foreigners only! 4 hot and fast swaps ---------------------------------------- iopop: thanx ralf for the long and nice reaction. well, first of all i haven't been in the scene for 5 years. only around 3 years but i bought my first c64 for around 5 years ago. that maybe changed our opinion about me but i hope not. you said that the elite was too easy to reach these days. i think i know why. because the sceners that are active today are what you could call the second generation. we have all been treated by the elite. and because we knew how hard it was when we were new in the scene. then we are not that hard to the new- comers these days. but as always there can be exceptions. and this thing leads to the "we have all time in the world" syndrome. and yes i have thought about the thing that i could be a dude that someone looks up to. it may be possible. people in poland or hungary maybe call jam an elite group while other people which have been in the scene longer think we are lamers. EVERYTHING IS RELATIVE! thanx for your attention!