The Crest 11
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TALES OF THE CREST
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THE CREST edition number 11 has taken complete
control over your multimedia 8-bit spaceship and will
now take you into the yet undiscovered parts of the
scene-galaxy...
Lean back relaxed and enjoy the journey into the
uncertain future.
...After we had landed on the planet called "CBM64"
we had to realize that there are also small green
creatures called AustrALIENS besides the "normal"
scene creatures...
One of these AustrALIENS had his own dominating
spaceship. And after he recognized the abilities of
our crew member and engineer"UZZY", he decided to
try everything to make him build a new engine for his
spaceship...
So UZZY was so nice and build an engine for him,
which was nearly the same like the one we used.
Then he flew to a public show to present his new
engine and told the scene creatures that he is the
first one to have this engine and that engineer and
commander UZZY is now a new crew member of his
spaceship. But the strange thing was that UZZY
didn't know anything about this!
Then he also claimed that our engine is the same as
his, as if we stole it from him and not the other way
around...
Then commander UZZY got to know of this and
cleared the shit out... He admited that he build the
engine for that AustrALIEN, but didn't know that this
creature wanted to be a crew member of his
spaceship... Commander UZZY of course decided to
stay with our spaceship and build the original engine
still for us.
So this shit is somehow beamed away, but still it's
not so nice that there are still creatures around
trying to spin intrigues.
Anyway, let's hope that this won't happen again and
there again can come peace to the nice planet called
"CBM64".
Hey, what's that?!? -TRANSMISSION FROM OUTER SPACE!-
We'll get new support from the moon MEGASTYLE
for our spaceship... We'll get a new leutnant on our
spaceship, who'll help us completing on of our
mission called "demo-reviews"... This one is Mr.
>>> LLOYD of MEGASTYLE PRODUCTIONS <<<
He freshly came back from his retiring and is now
working in space again to support us with fresh
music-reviews for the "WORLD OF BYTES" section.
So our crew is getting stronger and stronger to
keep the space clean from aliens...
Stop! We're receiving another TRANSMISSION FROM
OUTER SPACE! Put it on the screen!
[THE CREST] staff [THE CREST]
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HARDSEQUENCER/DYNAMIC TECHNOL. ........main-editor
SHOK'RAY/MEGASTYLE PRODUCTIONS ........main-editor
DODGER/DYNAMIC TECHNOLOGIES............main-editor
DANZIG/ALPHAFLIGHT 1970..................co-editor
UZZY/RENEGADE PROGRAMMING GROUP..........co-editor
SPACE-ROY/MEGASTYLE PRODUCTIONS..........co-editor
SCROLL/MEGASTYLE PRODUCTIONS.......coding-reviewer
TRIDENT/ACTIVE...............coding+music-reviewer
KRISTIAN ROSTOEN/SHAPE/HITMEN.......music-reviewer
LLOYD/MEGASTYLE PRODUCTIONS.........music-reviewer
!CUBE/SUCCESS+THE RULING COMP. .....music-reviewer
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[THE CREST] contents [THE CREST]
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TALES OF THE CREST..............................editorial
SCENE SPOTLIGHTER................................pal-news
OVERSEAS SCENE REPORT...........................ntsc-news
RULERS OF THE MONTH................................charts
THE APRIL LIST.............................release-charts
BAGDER - PROFILE................................interview
JACK DANIELS - PROFILE..........................interview
WORLD OF ARTS.............................graphic-reviews
WORLD OF BYTES...............................demo-reviews
PARTY EVENT COVERAGE.........................party-report
THE CRESTBOARD..................................addresses
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[THE CREST] intro credits [THE CREST]
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Code, fix.........................DODGER/DYTEC
Hires-picture...HARDSEQUENCER/DTC+SHOK'RAY/MSP
Font..............................SHOK'RAY/MSP
Music..............................XAYNE/CREST
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[THE CREST] outfit credits [THE CREST]
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Code, fix..............................DODGER/DYTEC
Hires-logo......................HARDSEQUENCER/DYTEC
Koala-logo, font.......................SHOK'RAY/MSP
Sprite-stars.........................PIGEON/X-RATED
Musics by...........................METAL/VIRBRANTS
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[THE CREST] blackboard [THE CREST]
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Snail-mail: SASCHA HERBRIG
FRANKFURTER ALLEE 163
10365 BERLIN
GERMANY
E-mail: DYTEC(at)HOTMAIL.COM
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[THE CREST] dealers [THE CREST]
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VIOLATOR/ALPHAFLIGHT 1970..........official spreader
WALKER/FANTASTIC 4 CR. GROUP.......official spreader
FATMAN/DYNAMIC TECHNOLOGIES.................spreader
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- END OF TRANSMISSION -
On our long journey we also met a friendly creature,
who wanted to help us completing our mission with
writing a party-report from the MEKKA +SYMPOSIUM.
This figure called ECSIC of DYTEC/ACSORE did this
for us and then was beamed up again and so
disappeared and was never ever seen since then
again...
Besides him there were some more strange creatures
who helped us completing our mission called "THE
CREST Issue No. 11"... So some "thank you"s have to
fly out to: BAGDER/HORIZON, JACK DANIELS/F4CG,
COMMANDER/ROLE, DANZIG/AFL, KRISTIAN ROSTOEN/HIT/
SHAPE, CENTRAX/SAMAR/TF, SEBALOZ/LEPSI DE,
MIDFIT/LEGEND, JAZZCAT/ONSLAUGHT, UZZY/RPG, MARC/
AFL, COUNT ZERO/SCS +TRC, DIDI/LAXITY and X-FIRE/FLT
So, that was it already. Mission 11 got completed. And
we hope that you'll go with us again on a journey
into the yet undiscovered parts of the scene
universe next month...
Beam us up, Scotty!
SHOK'RAY + HARDSEQUENCER
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(C) THE CREST 1998
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scene spotlighter
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SCENE SPOTLIGHTER
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This month there happened quite a lot of things.
Especially in the demo-scene. Mainly this was of
course caused by the parties that took place.
So this time I had to write a little bit more... :(
But I guess this high action level won't last long,
because the well-known summerhole isn't far away
anymore.
To see some news of your groups in here, better
leave us E-mail at. DYTEC(at)HOTMAIL.COM
And now here we go...
EXCESS [ger, hol]
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New members: GHOST, THE PRO
Gone ones..: ECSIC
GHOST, once a member of DISORDER, and THE PRO/TUM
joined the group as swappers and as editors for
their magazine NITRO.
ECSIC left the group for DYNAMIC TECHNOLOGIES.
Also the EXCESS-Homepage is finally online. Reach it
under: WWW.ST-ONLINE.DE/-EHRENBRI/EXCESS.HTML
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Memberstatus:
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BLACK DUKE, CAT, CREB, ECO, GHOST, RED ROCK,
SENTINEL, SKELETOR, SPINBALL, STORMFRONT, SUSH,
THE PRO
FAIRLIGHT [swe, den, ger...]
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New members: PARANOID, SKINHEAD
Gone ones..: -
Board......: WAREZ AQUARIUM +XX-XXX-XXXX EHQ
PARANOID, better known as BOB/NOSTALGIA, joined
FLT to be a cracker and editor for SCENE+.
The same did SKINHEAD/ex-F4CG later on.
Memberstatus:
CROSSFIRE, DRUID, DUKE, GLENN, HARLEKIN, OSWALD,
PARANOID, ROWDY, SHARK, SKINHEAD, SLEDGE, VODKA,
WATCHMAN
HITMEN [hol, ger, nor...]
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New members: -
Gone ones..: BURN, RAZE, SEVEN
Boards.....: THE DUNGEON +X-XXX-XXX-XXXX WHQ (down)
WAREZ AQUARIUM +XX-XXX-XXXX EHQ
Their forces got a little bit smaller. RAZE, BURN and
also SEVEN left the group and are now groupless.
Memberstatus:
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ALCHEMIST, CHAOTIC, CUPID, DEFF, DESPAIR, DIVERSE,
EROL, GROEPAZ, JIHAD, JINX, KRISTIAN ROSTOEN, LUKE,
MAGIC MAN, MOONCHILD, MOTION, RACOON, RAMMY,
SABOTAGE, SKUD, SLEDGE, STAN, TRANZIIE, TYRON,
VORTEX, WEASEL
LEGEND [ger, aut, hol...]
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New members: -
Gone ones..: MIDFIT, MOLOCH, RAMIREZ, SHOCKER
First of all MOLOCH decided to leave the group again,
just some weeks after he joined the group.
Then all surpising MIDFIT left the group as well,
because he saw no more future for it. So SHOCKER
and RAMIREZ followed him.
Memberstatus:
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ANTITRACK, DOC, FLETCH, GENE, GOLDFISH, POWERPLANT,
TDO, UNCLE D, WESTBAM
ONSLAUGHT [oz, ger, pol...]
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New members: LEMING, (BIZARRE, DONAR)
Gone ones..: -
Board......: DEADZONE +X-XXX-XXX-XXXX WHQ
FTP-Site...: GANGSTA'S PARADISE
c64.rulez.org/pub/c64
Megaswapper LEMING/NIPSON/FATUM left FATUM and
joined the [O]-posse as first group but will stay in
NIPSON as second.
BIZARRE and DONAR became active again and also
were seen calling the boards again.
The rumour that they went into coop with LAXITY is
wrong. They will only fix some games for LXT.
Memberstatus:
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BIZARRE, CUBEHEAD, DEEKAY, DONAR, DOOM, GOP,
GRAFEE, JAZZCAT, JASON, JOLZ, LEMING, MADHEAD,
MANIAC, MEFF, MORBID, NAPHALM, REGI KEYZ, STING, TBH,
TROUBLE, VENGEANCE
PADUA [ger, hol, swe...]
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New members: DANO, DOOMED, FLARE
Gone ones..: -
FTP-Site...: ftp.padua.org
First of all DANO, ex-member of ATLANTIS, joined
them as coder.
Later on FLARE/NO NAME decided to come to PADUA as
well. He'll also code for them.
Then finally DOOMED came from the dead PENTAGRAM
PRODUCTIONS. So now they got three new coders.
Let's hope that this will bring some more demos with
it...
Memberstatus:
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ANONYM, CLASSYK, CUPID, DOOMED, FLARE, HOOGO,
ICEBALL, JADAWIN, LEONARDO, POMMAC, RAY TRACER
That were all major-news... Read the single-news and
news from smaller groups on the next pages!
Single news:
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- STARFIGHTER joined ROLE. GOP/ONSLAUGHT teamed up
with ROLE as second group. Besides this ROLE got
three new german members, who are called SUCK,
MIST and GANJA.
PHUTURE left the scene, so he is no longer he
member of ROLE.
Memberstatus:
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ALMIGHTY GOD, AVENGER, BUGJAM, COMMANDER, DEE
JAY, DENNIS, DYNATONIC, FADE, FRANKIE, G, GANJA,
GAXAR, GOP, H-BLOXX, ICEGIRL, LEO, LOW, LUIS,
MEDIATOR, MISS. SECRET, MIST, NOSTRADAMUS,
OCHRANA, RESTIVE, RUDE, SCORPE, SIMPLE, SNIPER,
SOREX, STARFIGHTER, SUCK, SWAYZE, TDB, TEX, THE
CHRONIC, THORGAL, VIP, ZAK, ZUBER
- S. U. C. K. /ex-ERROR 2000 joined SATAKI as musician.
Another new member of SATAKI is LISSA, a girl, who
will be a paper artist for them.
- CAUTION was rebuilt by CHASH, a graphician, SIGNOR,
a composer, and SHELL, a coder. WEDLOCK/KRECIKI
and BLACK LIGHT/KRECIKI joined CAUTION as coder
and swapper.
Memberstatus:
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BLACK LIGHT, CHASH, SHELL, SIGNOR, WEDLOCK
- KHEELA, the sister of STINGER/SAMAR, joined SAMAR
as graphician.
DUNE, NYLU, RTML and TTL were all put on the
inactive status of SAMAR.
Memberstatus:
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ALG, BISHOP, BUTT-MAN, CENTRAX, DAF, FALCOR,
GLOVER, GOLDHAND, ISILDUR, KHEELA, KORDIAUKIS,
LEVI, MAVERICK, MR. FIZ, RAMOS, SAHIR, SCARLET,
STINGER, TIMIX, VALSARY
- SKYLIGHT was rebuilt by LOTUS, who returned to the
scene. KILLER/KRECIKI joined then SKYLIGHT as a
swapper. The same did FLEA/DE-KODER/KRECIKI and
SPYCRAFT. SAGE/FRACTION teamed up with SKYLIGHT
as composer, while JACKOBE/OXYGEN came to them
as coder. Finally also BISHOP/SAMAR joined the
forces of this new "old" group as his second
group to be a graphician and paper artist for them.
Memberstatus:
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BISHOP, JACKOBE, FLEA, KILLER, LOTUS, SAGE,
SPYCRAFT
- FUNGUS left the FANTASTIC FOUR CRACKING GROUP. The
rumour that he rejoined them short after this is
NOT right!
- BLEZE/WILLOW decided to join LAXITY as his second
group. He'll do some graphics for them.
- LORD CRUCIFIER teamed up again with SUCCESS AND
THE RULING COMPANY as cracker.
- DRUMTEX/MEGASTYLE PRODUCTIONS became active
again and changed his handle into LLOYD.
- Last issue we wrote that GSC joined SHAPE. That is
not true. The guys from SHAPE are at the moment
discussing with GSC to join them.
- RANDY/SCORN/POWERAGE left his both group to get
into NIPSON.
- VIP/ROLE joined WARRIORS OF WASTELAND as second
group as composer.
- MAKKE/THE EINSTEIN GROUP teamed up with COMIC
PIRATES but stays in TEC as second group.
- VAMPIRE/FRACTION/NO NAME left BIEDRONKI as well
as PROVOCATOR/SATAKI.
- The groups ERROR 2000 and IDLE are dead. Their
magazine X-DOME will probably be released under
the ROLE label in the future.
- EXPLORER/AGONY joined ALBION as coder.
- MARTENS/FRACTION left all his other groups to
concentrate on FRACTION.
- KATON/LEPSI DE left the groups MIRACLES and SCORN
and stays in LEPSI DE only.
- ECLIPSE/XYNOX/ALBION decided to join RESOURCE as
composer.
- REX left EXPECT to team up with VAUDEVILLE, while
MINOS was kicked out of VAUDEVILLE.
- ZEUS/MAD + BAD/ADEQUATE +IRONIC went to DE-KODER
to be a graphician for them.
- The group ADWARP ENGLISH died.
- APIDYA gained PILOT/LASSER, but he stays in
LASSER as first group.
- MINI CAT/DRACO left the group ALLIANCE.
- SNIPER/AUTHORITY, a cover painter, changed his
handle into AZAEL.
- At the Eastern weekend there took place the MEKKA
+SYMPOSIUM'98-party in Fallingbostel/Germany.
The results in the CBM64 competitions looked like
this...
DEMOS:
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01. OUR DARKNESS by SMASH DESIGNS
02. REANIM8ED by HITMEN
03. KRESTYRON by OXYRON +CREST
04. SPLISH SPLASH by PADUA
05. PAYDAY by SMASH DESIGNS
06. TRIP TO NEPA(L) 2 by CASCADE
07. LICENCE by W.O.W.
08. PURPOSE OF LIFE by WHATHAS2BSAID
09. BOOZE by METALVOTZE
10. OLDSTYLE by WILLOW
11. BEERSTATION by W.O.W.
12. DAEHMON by SHITMEN+HOTSTUFFAZ
13. FICKEN IM ZELT by SEMINAR
GRAPHICS:
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01. DU GEMEINER MOERDER by RAYDEN/AFL +CYCLONE
02. FANTASTICA by HANS WURST/ONSLAUGHT
03. I'LL REMEMBER by HARDSEQUENCER/DYTEC
04. WELCOME TO TELEKOM by RAZE
05. FIRESTARTER by SEBALOZ/LEPSI DE
06. CHRIS HUELSBECK by ZEALOT/OUT OF ORDER
07. TYRANY by AEG/SMASH DESIGNS
08. MONSTER by KATON/LEPSI DE
09. KNIGHT by CRAYON/ANUBIS
10. LURKING DEATH by ASSASSIN/WILLOW
11. LOVE by ZEITGEIST/CIVITAS
12. DISSECTOR by BRAINSMASHER/CIVITAS
13. KENTUCKY by FLIP/CENTRIC
14. AMAZON by BLEZE/WILLOW/LAXITY
15. PORTRAET DES PR. K. T.by BUGJAM/ROLE
16. EMPTYVIEW by HOGAN/REFLEX
MUSICS:
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01. LIVING BLACK by TAXIM/WILLOW
02. STARS by LEO/WILLOW
03. COMPO-TUNE by BAX/NO NAME
04. GOING THE DISTANCE by RAYDEN/ALPHAFLIGHT 1970
05. LICENCE by THE ALIEN/W.O.W.
06. VISIONS IN GOA by Q-MAN/WILLOW
07. DARK ENTRY by SONIC/SMASH DESIGNS
08. WATERY by FANTA/OXYRON
09. VHFO by THE SYNDROM/TIA/CREST
10. TO YOU 2 by TOP SECRET/CULT
11. ORGANIC by BRIZZ/PANIC/ASCRAEUS
12. MELODY SUXX by FANTASTIC ZOOL/SMASH
13. REFORMATION by MANEX/ANUBIS/STARDUST
14. TILL THE END by LUNATIC/CULT
15. GAVELION by FUBEN/OXYRON
16. 5H-WORK by FLIP/CENTRIC
17. LULU by HEINMUECK/TUM +WILLOW
18. IN YOUR EYES by FLOYD/WILLOW/TEMPEST
19. VHD by GREATRIX/CULT
4K:
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1. SMASH by AEG/SMASH DESIGNS
2. DOUBLE-PLASMA by FLIP/CENTRIC
3. JUST FOR FUN by DIDI/LAXITY
4. 4K by LEONARDO/PADUA
5. OLDSCHOOL by SYNDROM/TIA/CREST
6. STYLE by ICEMAN/W.O.W.
7. FICKEN - THE STEELER R. by SCHWENGEL/KARLSQ. S.
8. FICKEN by BITBREAKER/VOZ
Btw, you can read a report from this party in the
chapter PARTY EVENT COVERAGE, reviews of the
competition-pictures in the chapter WORLD OF ARTS
and a review of the 3rd place in demo-competition
KRESTYRON by OXYRON +CREST in the chapter WORLD
OF BYTES.
- From the 25th to the 26th of April there took place
the RUSH HOURS '98 party in Czestochowa/Poland.
The resulst there were as follows:
DEMOS:
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1. PATHOLOGY by FRACTION
2. TAKE OFF by DRACO
3. CYBERDOME by RULE3
4. STUNDARD by LEPSI DE
GRAPHICS:
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1. TIMIX/SAMAR
2. LEVI/LEPSI DE/SAMAR
3. SEBALOZ/LEPSI DE
MUSICS:
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1. KORDIAUKIS/SAMAR
2. WACEK/ARISE/ALBION/LEPSI DE
3. KLAX/OXYGEN/AXELERATE
- COMIC PIRATES gained two new members. First
TONIC teamed up with them as coder and later on
GROBI came in as paper artist.
HARDSEQUENCER
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oversea scene report
The "Overseas" Scene Report
by Uzzy of RPG
Well, another month has passed, and another issue
of The Crest is of course gracing your screens.
And, through the din of automatic weapons fire
and with extremely loud Pink Floyd blasting it's
way through my head, the token American guy comes
through yet again with another look at this thing
we call the NTSC scene.
After a fitful bit of web-surfing I came away with
a few decent pieces of information, hopefully
accurate. And then some of the BBS people and
users groups came through and offered some more
info. Thanks to all who have contributed to my
store of pointless scene information!
Anyway, as is usual, if I get anything wrong and you
want a swift correction and/or apology, or if you
have any bits of information, suggestions, marriage
proposals or death threats, you can always send
them via the Internet to me at:
arthur.heller(at)anwcbbs.uu.holonet.net
The point of this article is to showcase the NTSC
news at large, and not to read a 20k rant from me,
so let's just get on with the meat of this, alright?
I knew you'd agree.
THE NEWS
- Apparently, Arcane, demo group from yesteryear,
has reformed (or never disbanded at all, contrary
to what I've been told). I'm under the impression
that a demo from them was released at the NTSC
Demo Conference on IRC.
- Uber was booted from RPG. Consequently, his
board, Spellbound, has gone down perminantly.
A few refugees have been spotted on The Bass
Planet. In other RPG news, Warnock has again
been placed on ACTIVE status.
- Local-H and The Fatman joined BCI as a second
group.
- Exclusive news! As reported last month, Loadstar
128, a commercial diskmag, was slated to cease
publication in a few months. Apparently, though,
the guys at Loadstar found a way to continue
publication, and the magazine will continue!
- In a recent poll, 64% of the American public agreed
that President Clinton probably DID have affairs,
but that... Wait a minute... this doesn't belong in
this chapter.
I hate when that happens.
And, of course, your ubiquitous group-list update.
ASU (Anarchy Systems Unlimited):
Grubby, Scanner
ARCANE:
Moloch, PK
BCI (Bad Coders International):
Local-H, Phred, Sketch, Udd
CCS (Carcass Creation Service):
Deathangel's Shadow, Fungus, Hoffman, Natas,
Necrophobic, Pinball Wizard, Shadowmaster, TMR,
Wideload, Zirc0
ELECTRON:
Dokken, The Gambler
FOE (Forces Of Evil):
The Phantom, Paladin, Wrong Way
FTA (From The Ashes):
Burning Horizon, Diskmaster, Firestalker, Trillian
MILLENIUM:
Roy Batty, The Fatman
OMNI:
Bonestripper, Light, Nerves, Prowler, Spectre
PSW:
MacBeth, Shroom, Fuzz
RPG (The Renegade Programming Group):
Chameleon, Cyberad, Dr.Doom, The Heretic, Ken,
Pegasus, Uzzy, Warnock
STORM:
Cybernoid, Negspect
STYLE:
Alter Ego, Deathlok, Decomp, DW, Elwix, Firefoot,
Massive Onslaught, PK, Repose, Warnock, The Wiz
VENOM:
The Hobbit, Kickback, WSoft
That about wraps up the NTSC scene for this month.
A bit happened, a bit didn't happen, but all in all
some activity prevailed and gave me something to
write about so my place in this mag has purpose.
Oh, last month I mumbled about charts. Sorry, no
charts yet, I feel I can't really give accurate charts
when I haven't seen the newest demos. I'm also
working on making a catchy Email form, with cool
ASCII art that I can't do without bursting an artery
in my brain yet. Maybe next month.
- Uzzy/RPG -
"Hey, calm down and have some DIP!"
- George Carlin
rulers of the month
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RULERS OF THE MONTH
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Feel warmly welcome again to the probably most
popular chapter around - The monthly charts.
If you want to support this chapter and and want to
influence these charts, then you can send us back
our filled votesheet or send us your votes via E-mail
to: DYTEC(at)HOTMAIL.COM or simply leave me
(HARDSEQUENCER) your votes via mail on the major
us-boards.
And now enjoy the 6 most important Top Tens around!
THE TOP 10 DEMO GROUPS
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>>> 01.(+) OXYRON..................(137) <<<
02.(>) CREST...................(127)
03.(-) SMASH DESIGNS...........(104)
04.(+) REFLEX..................(076)
05.(+) SAMAR...................(053)
06.(+) BYTERAPERS INC. ........(042)
07.(+) TABOO...................(037)
08.(>) LEPSI DE................(031)
09.(-) COMA....................(027)
10.(+) TRIAD...................(020)
(>) means same position like last month
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Comments:
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The guys from OXYRON finally did it! They got onto
the number one spot! They kicked SMASH DESIGNS off
the throne down to the third place. Let's see how
the audience will react on the demos both groups
released at the MEKKA +SYMPOSIUM'98.
COMA took a free fall from 4 down to 9, while TABOO
jumped from 10 up to 7.
TRIAD came in for RESOURCE. Seems the release of
REFUGEE shows first results.
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THE TOP 10 CRACKING GROUPS
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>>> 01.(>) ALPHAFLIGHT 1970...................(119) <<<
02.(+) HITMEN.............................(108)
03.(-) ...................................(093)
04.(+) FANTASTIC FOUR CRACKING GROUP......(063)
05.(-) LAXITY.............................(061)
06.(>) CHROMANCE..........................(046)
07.(+) DYNAMIC TECHNOLOGIES...............(042)
08.(+) REMEMBER...........................(031)
09.(-) ONSLAUGHT..........................(025)
10.(-) FAIRLIGHT..........................(016)
( +) means better position than last month
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Comments:
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ALPHAFLIGHT 1970 still on the pole position. But the
HITMEN came very close and even pushed SCS +TRC
one place down.
F4CG and LAXITY swapped their positions.
DYTEC and REMEMBER both climbed two places each of
them, while FAIRLIGHT had to go down from 7 to 10 and
ONSLAUGHT from 8 to 9.
Surprising is that there is no new entry!
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THE TOP 10 DEMO PROGRAMMERS
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>>> 01.(>) CROSSBOW/CREST................(130) <<<
02.(+) GRAHAM/OXYRON.................(128)
03.(>) MR. SEX/BYTERAPERS INC. ......(105)
04.(-) AEG/SMASH DESIGNS.............(102)
05.(+) GOLDHAND/SAMAR/AFL 1970.......(043)
06.(+) ZORC/REFLEX...................(036)
07.(-) FUBEN/OXYRON..................(026)
08.(+) LEONARDO/PADUA................(021)
09.(+) MMS/TABOO.....................(013)
10.(-) OSWALD/COMA/FAIRLIGHT.........(011)
( -) means worse position than last month
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Comments:
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As expected by everyone CROSSBOW is still the
number one! And with his great guestpart in the
KRESTYRON-demo he surely will strengthen his
posisition.
But GRAHAM is very close to him and with his code
for the KRESTYRON he might keep the fight for the
top spot very hot.
MMS re-entered the Top Ten at the 9th place. For him
CLARENCE had to leave.
-- ----------------------------------------------- --
THE TOP 10 GAME CRACKERS
---------------------- --
>>> 01.(>) JACK ALIEN/REMEMBER................(117) <<<
02.(>) BURGLAR/SCS +TRC...................(082)
03.(+) THE IGNORANCE/ALPHAFLIGHT 1970.....(066)
04.(+) MOONCHILD/HITMEN...................(065)
05.(-) DIDI/LAXITY........................(064)
06.(+) MANIK/LAXITY.......................(017)
07.(+) DANZIG/ALPHAFLIGHT 1970............(015)
08.(+) DERBYSHIRE RAM/AFL/REMEMBER........(014)
09.(-) COUNT ZERO/SCS +TRC................(012)
(+) PLAYBOY/F4CG.......................(012)
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Comments:
---------
No changes on the first two places. But look at the
places 3 to 5 and their point difference! A very
close finish, which finally IGNORANCE won and gained
the 3rd place!
We have many high new entries. MANIK came in on the
6th, DANZIG on the 7th, DERBYSHIRE RAM on the 8th
and PLAYBOY on the 9th, which he shares with COUNT
ZERO now.
For them MARC, CROSSFIRE, NAPHALM and CHRYSAGON
had to leave the Top Ten.
-- ---------------------------------------------- --
THE TOP 10 GRAPHIC ARTISTS
------------------------ --
>>> 01.(>) DEEKAY/CREST..................(152) <<<
02.(+) VALSARY/SAMAR/LEPSI DE........(120)
03.(+) ELECTRIC/EXTEND...............(095)
04.(-) JOE/WRATH DESIGN..............(047)
05.(+) WARP 8/FLASH INC. ............(035)
06.(>) SEBALOZ/LEPSI DE..............(034)
07.(-) RAYDEN/ALPHAFLIGHT 1970.......(021)
08.(>) CRUISE/TABOO..................(019)
(+) TYRANT/THERAPY................(019)
10.(+) ASTAROTH/AGONY................(018)
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Comments:
---------
DEEKAY still on the top spot, like expected.
But VALSARY came quite close by jumping from 4 up
to 2, while JOE had to take his old positition instead.
Loser of the month is RAYDEN, who fell from 3 down
to 7. Let's see, what his competition winning picture
from the MEKKA +SYMPOSIUM will cause...
DANE and AEG had to leave the chart because WARP 8
and ASTAROTH came in.
-- --------------------------------------------- --
THE TOP 10 SOUND WIZARDS
-- ------------------ --
>>> 01.(>) MITCH+DANE/CREST.................(105) <<<
02.(+) DRAX/VIBRANTS....................(090)
03.(+) FANTA/OXYRON/BASS................(083)
04.(-) P. R. I. /OXYRON.................(062)
05.(+) KRISTIAN ROSTOEN/HITMEN/SHAPE....(032)
06.(-) PVCF/ex-REFLEX...................(030)
(+) PRAISER/SAMAR....................(030)
08.(+) DAF/SAMAR........................(028)
09.(-) TRIDENT/ACTIVE...................(026)
10.(+) METAL/VIBRANTS...................(025)
(+) THE SYNDROM/CREST/TIA............(025)
__ ___________________________________ __
Comments:
---------
MITCH+DANE are still the only constant factor in this
list.
DRAX managed to climb one place from 3 up to 2 and
FANTA even made a huge jump from 6 up to 3!
But winner of the month is KRISTIAN ROSTOEN, who
re-entered the Top Ten straight at the 5th place!
Loser of the month is JEFF, no doubt! Last month the
number two, he left the chart this month!
-- ----------------------------------------------- --
The May can be seen as a guiding month concerning
the charts, because there were many important
parties in April, most important the MEKKA+
SYMPOSIUM'98. We'll see what impact this will have on
the charts from the legal sector.
As last point I want to thank everyone, who
supported us with spreading votesheets and of
course everyone, who filled a votesheet! Without you
this chapter would be impossible! Thanx!
HARDSEQUENCER
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(C) THE CREST 1998
- --------------- -
the april list
-- ----------------------------------- --
THE APRIL LIST
__ ___________________________________ __
Hi and welcome again to the LIST in THE CREST!
This time we had a more than slow month, and so I
can spend my time outside in the sun... .
Don't forget to contact me for any problems, ideas
or comments concerning this LIST at my email:
THE_DODGER(AT)HOTMAIL.COM
But now let's start with the SPOTLIGHT NEWS... .
-- ---------------------------------------------- --
SPOTLIGHT NEWS APRIL
__ ___________________________________ __
The 1st days of APRIL the good old EVIL ISLAND (AFL
WHQ) went down for unknown reasons... . Later this
month the reason was clear... the SYSOP had some
trouble with the LONGDISTANCE-COMPANY SPRINT and
he also moved the complete EQUIPMENT within' his
house... . So we can expect the BOARD online again
soon... .
And finally it was anounced why THE DUNGEON went
offline some months ago... . The BOARD had a major
HD-CRASH and the SYSOP has actually no time to solve
the problems and to bring the BOARD back online.
However, it will be online again later this year!!!
With the guys from ONSLAUGT calling out again, it
was an quite active month on the US-BOARDS, calling-
wise! I'd be happy if I could say the same about the
RELEASES... but look yourself!
The RELEASES got taken from the following BOARDS:
THE BASS PLANET ++X-XXX-XXX-XXXX (C)+XENON WHQ
DEADZONE ++X-XXX-XXX-XXXX ONSLAUGHT WHQ
Now let's go on with the RELEASES...
DYNAMIC TECHNOLOGIES (ger) -5,0 POINTS
----------------------------------------------------
The EASTGERMANS had no luck with releasing the
fixed version of PILE UP (-5,0 POINTS). As a slightly
different version got released by F4CG (FIX by
EMPIRE) some years ago, they only earned RE-
RELEASE-POINTS for this one.
FAIRLIGHT (den, swe, hun...) 0,0 POINTS
-----------------------------------------------------
They put out the quite funny game named FOX AND
HOUNDS (0,0 POINTS) from LOADSTAR.
As the game was written in COMPILED BASIC, they'll
get no POINTS for it!
HITMEN (ger, swe, pol...) 0,2 POINTS
--------------------------------------------------------
After some months of silence HITMEN returned with
the quite ugly PREVIEW of TARGET 2 (0,2 POINTS) from
LEPSI DE.
ONSLAUGHT (aus, pol, ger...) 0,5 POINTS
--------------------------------------------------------
The guys from ONSLAUGHT showed up with the really
nice PREVIEW of BLOCKS (0,5 POINTS) from SCORN!
This was all for the last MONTH... skip the page for
the complete LIST... .
RELEASECHARTS APRIL 1998
----------------------------
PLACE GROUP POINTS RELEASES
--------------------------------------------------------
1 ONSLAUGHT 0,5 1
2 HITMEN 0,2 1
3 FAIRLIGHT 0,0 1
4 DYNAMIC TECHNOLOGIES - 5,0 1
A really poor LIST this time... and I'm not sure if the
next months will be better, as the summer is already
here, and so the scene is hanging on the beaches... .
This was all for my JOB this time... hope you all are
having good days outside, as the weather is more
than great actually... But try to be atleast a bit
active, so that the next months are not that dry
releasewise like this time!
THE DODGER/THE CREST MAGAZINE
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bagder - profile
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LEGAL PROFILE OF THE MONTH
-- ----------------------------------- --
Another month... Another interview with a guy from
the demo scene.
This time we can again present you a legendary pal.
He was a very popular coder and a member of one of
the groups, who can really call themselves legends.
His most famous demo ever probably was THE LAST
TRAKTOR 3! I guess now everyone knows that I'm
talking about no one less than...
>>> BAGDER of HORIZON <<<
Have fun reading this nice smalltalk!
(C): Hello BAGDER! Thank you very much for being so
nice and giving us the chance to do this
interview with you... So, please introduce
yourself a little bit to our readers!
(B): Ok, my name is Daniel Stenberg and I am now 27
years old. I'm living in Solna, Sweden and I work
as a programmer for the company called
FRONTEC. I am a consultant, which means I
program for anyone that hires me to the magic
for some 700 SEK an hour. My professional
programming is mainly restricted to Unix and
real time systems and most of my time is sold
to a not entirelly unknown Swedish company
named ERICSSON. One of my greatest hobbies is
programming! I spend something like around 20
hours a week of my spare time doing
programming, most often Unix and web related
stuff. You can get a glimpse of some of my
projects at my homepage at...
http://www.fts.frontec.se/-dast
----------------------------------
Other hobbies include travelling (I just
recently came from a one month tour in the
northern parts of India - quite a thrill!), the
very popular Swedish sport named "Innebandy"
(like indoor hockey kind of) and Kayak Polo (or
why not white water kayaking!). I spend a lot
of time with my girlfriend Anja.
(C): Oh, thanx for these infos! Seems you are a
very active guy! Cool!
And how did you come in contact with the C64
and its demo scene?
(B): I and my brother bought our C64 together 1985.
My good friend Kjell (known as KJER) already
had one and we had a lot of fun times in front
of his machine already before we bought our
own. The first years we spent gaming and doing
more Basic programming. We started doing some
small attempts at Assembler during 1987. The
three of us loved all those demos of that time
and we wanted very badly to make our own
ones. We called ourselves CONFUSING SOLUTIONS,
CONSOL. During the autumn 1987 we found out
that TRIAD and FAIRLIGHT were gonna have a
X-mas party in a school very near where we
lived at that time and we went there and we
released our first demo ever that reached
anyone! ;) ANIMAX was the name.
(C): Ah, nice story, really!
Which groups have you then been in all over
your scene career?
(B): - CONFUSING SOLUTION (CONSOL)
from the beginning of time
- SUPER SWAP SWEDEN (SSS)
from March 1988
- HORIZON (HZ)
from the summer 1988
(C): And what did you as legal scener think of the
illegal part of the scene?
(B): Well, in the beginning I did trade some games
with people but it didn't take long until I grew
totally bored with them and decided that
demos are so much more fun. It was more
because gaming was boring than it was a moral
issue. As time developed, I also think that
legal was the only way to go. Cracking was
never anything that attracted our attention,
it is not constructive as demo making is.
(C): You are not the first guy to mention this fact,
hehe!
So, why did you become a coder and not a
painter or something else?
(B): Hehe, as I just said, cracking was never an
issue, when cracking you don't make anything
yourself, you just trying to break someone
else's code. I just love making my own things
take shape, and do cool things I like to see.
The reason I chose to be a coder was that in
our world at that time, there was no
alternative. The biggest fun - without
competition - you could have with your
computer is programming it (and in fact, I still
think so!).
(C): And are there any coders, who you respect a
lot?
(B): I do have a lot of respect for many coders.
Those ones that invented new things, spent
lots of time trying hard and really made a
difference. I do remember a few people that
made cool things, and the coders of groups
like UPFRONT and THE JUDGES come to my mind. I
also think that my friends in HORIZON are/were
really awesome coders for whom I have great
respect.
(C): Yeah, they truely were!
And now please give us your favourites in the
following categories!
(B): Demo: BONANZA by MICROSYSTEMS DIGITAL
TECHNOLOGY, the first full-screen full-
motion hires flying around we ever
saw.
BOGALOO and EXILION codes that
masterpiece before they joined
KORIZON.
Demo Group: THE JUDGES.
Graphician.: Can't remember nor mention a
single one in this subject.
Composer... : I liked the work from many artists,
never ahd any bug favourite.
Game............: HAT-TRICK, the ice-hockey game!
( (C): Yeah, that one kixx! )
Magazine........ : Overated products.
Book.............: GIBSON is a favourite author.
Movie........... : Anything off the crappy Hollywood
line of films. I love ONCE WERE
WARRIORS and PULP FICTION.
Music: Industrial, hard synth: FRONT 242,
NITZER EBB, COVENANT, FRONTLINE
ASSEMBLY, BIGOD 20... You get the
picture.
(C): Hey, what do you think of the Internet? Is this
the way to go for the CBM64 scene?
(B): Of course, Internet is the right future for
everything! (Well, almost.)
(C): Seems you like the Internet a lot...
Tell us please: What's up with HORIZON on the
C64? Can we sometime expect a comeback demo
from you guys?
(B): Nope. We will hardly ever make anything again
on any platform using the name HORIZON. We
have been doing things on Amiga using the
name FREXXWARE, and we do stuff using the
company name HAXX now.
(C): A pity! Would have been too nice to be true!
Did you ever have any troubles with someone
in the scene back then?
(B): Yes, unfortunately. Like IKARI when they
cheated hard in the demo competition in the
party in (Slagelse?) Denmark, '88 or '89. Like
the Amiga crew named HIROZON for being twits
and thinking they had the right to the name
(we once were the same group when the Amiga
guys were kicked out). We were mainly
peaceful guys, but we never could stand
cluelessness nor foulplay.
(C): But if my memory serves me right, you once
had a little trouble with SCROLL/MSP... You said
that he stole a part from you to use it in
BRAINSTORM 3, if I'm not wrong... So, could you
please tell a little bit about this story from
your point of view? What happened exaclty,
what was the point and how did the story come
to an end?
(B): I can't recall this incident at all actually! ;)
In general, we've had everything ripped, stolen
and re-used that we never allowed. We got
graphics, code, our music routine and even
scroll texts (!) stolen. The computer scene,
and computer people in general today, is
crowded with all these guys that went easy
living and as fast lane to success. Since there
is no such thing as a short cut to knowledge
or an easy way to learn hard stuff, you either
skip learning it and do something else or you
steal. I don't have any hard feelings against
those poor souls that used to steal our
products during our 64-years, it's more kind of
sad and pathetic. I guess most of those guys
did end up making "multi-media presentations"
with some Microsoft tools under Windows 3.1! ;)
(C): Haha!
Now let's get over to some brainstorming...
(B): Trackmos.: Stupid name.
Boards...: Old-days-tech
Phreaking: Caught by the law
Parties..: Fun, snaked, demos, coding, code,
pizza, no sleeping until competition,
deadlines being moved
Sex........: What's that?
Alcohol....: Not when coding, thanks.
PC.........: The only surviving personal
computer platform, unfortunately.
Makes a good platform for small
money when you run Linux on it.
(C): Aha... Some nice and funny answers, hehe!
Tell me, what thing, that you did in the CBM64
scene, are you most proud of? Maybe one
special of your demos?
(B): I really can't point out any specific product
that made me especially proud. I think I was
most proud of the fact that HORIZON turned
out to be that perfect group we wanted it to
become. We were 8 great (in my opinion)
coders, we were all very good friends, we took
life and computer stuff lightly, we had lots of
laughs, we had lots of meetings, we did lots
and lots of demos together that I think was
pretty good for that time.
(C): Yeah, it really was!
As you said before, you started in the scene a
very long time ago... What do you think of
today's scene? Do you like it? Or do you more
prefer the spirit of the old days?
(B): I am very much off the scene these days and
I haven't seen a C64 demo in years. I know
development have moved technology forward a
lot further than when I last made anything. The
little contact I have had with the C64 scene of
today (most in the C64 IRC channels) have not
really impressed me (not meaning to be rude or
speaking bad about anyone) and have made me
think and long back to "the good old days".
Although I believe you often get nostalgic and
remember history as better than it actually
was. One thing is for sure, and that is that
demos slowly turned into more and more
graphic intensive products (from originally
mostly being programmers showing off to each
other). Since I was a pure coder and still watch
and think of demos as being coding show-offs,
I thought it grew more and more boring doing
demos since you would need and make all the
graohical stuff. Heck, today you can even see
demos that are made by 8 graphic guys and one
coder, we were 8 coders and one graphic guy...
(C): But you were popular anyway! So people today
still like your work!
By the way, what thing in the C64 did you like
most?
(B): Friendship. Getting to know ppl at parties,
having fun with your friends coding away all
nights and days.
(C): And what did you hate the most?
(B): The large amount of lamers and the large
amount of hooligans and vandals. We arranged
quite a few parties during our most active
days, and I don't think a single one ended
without some people destroying and damaging
property we had to pay for afterwards. I hate
to say many of them came from Norway, and a
bunch of them even was considered to be our
friends before they did it.
(C): Yeah, things like this really suck!
So, everything has to come to an end, so has
this interview... Anything you want to say?
Maybe some greetings or shouts?
(B): Well, my friends know me and I don't need to
say hi to all of you, I would only risk missing
someone's namere and he'd feel left out. To all
of you who know or knew me, thanks for a
great time with a great computer.
Feel free to get in touch, I'm as active as ever
programming... Meet me at...
http://www.fts.frontec.se/-dast
-----------------------------------
(C): Okay Daniel, that's it! Thanks for your time!
Bye...
__ ___________________ __
Held by: HARDSEQUENCER/DYTEC
Held on: 26. 01. 1998
-- ----------------------- --
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(C) THE CREST 1998
- --------------------- -
jack daniels - profile
__ ___________________________________ __
ILLEGAL PROFILE OF THE MONTH
-- ----------------------------------- --
Again we managed it to get a legendary pal from the
illegal part of the scene to make a smalltalk for our
magazine with us.
This time it is with a pal, who was in groups like
PARAMOUNT, GENESIS PROJECT, DOMINATORS and
AVANTGARDE and he is still active! Yes, it is...
>>> JACK DANIELS of F4CG <<<
Now enjoy this interview!
(C): Hello JACK DANIELS! Nice to have you here in
this profiler!
To make a first start, please introduce
yourself a little bit to our readers!
(J): Hi there! Well, my real name is Tobias Richter, I
am 24 and a student for tourism related
economics here at the German North-Sea coast.
Moreover I own a little travel-agency called
"GO! Travel Services" along with my brother. As
you can imagine, there is not much spare-time
left, but in case there is, I like to go out with
friends, doesn't matter if it is to parties,
bars, clubs or whatever as long as it is fun.
Furthermore I am a big soccer fan and like to
play myself as well.
(C): Like everyone else we also want to ask you,
how you started your computer career?
(J): Honestly, I don't remember exactly when I got
my first C64 but it must have been during the
years 1984 or 1985. I entered the scene in 1985
together with 3DK as we built up the
STORMTROOPERS and renamed them quite soon
into TROOPERS as the other name was too long.
At that time we started swapping and got our
first contacts. Our first group with own
productions was COCAINE together with DUCK
DUNN (better known from his time in the CRAZY +
LOTUS coop). During this time the first cracks
and even one demo got released.
(C): And which groups have you been in so far?
(J): As just mentioned COCAINE, afterwards ORION,
ATG, PARAMOUNT, GENESIS PROJECT, DOMINATORS,
AVANTGARDE and noe finally F4CG where I am
still in.
(C): Why did you go to F4CG after the death of
AVANTGARDE? Only because of DEFF joining
them or what?
(J): No, that's not the only reason. I have been
very close with the F4CG family since ages and
so it was my first choice. And I don't have to
tell you about F4CG's long history and
reputation...
(C): Aha, so that's why... And why did you and 3DK
leave GENESIS PROJECT and join DOMINATORS
back then?
(J): That's a long story... But to sum it up
ANTICHRIST wanted to have influence on our
magazine CORRUPTION and as it has always been
a neutral magazine, we didn't allow him to
interfere. He wrote some texts against CRAZY
and wanted us to publish them and in addition
to put the famous Anti-Mamba intro infront of
the mag. But because of the fact that we had a
good relation to PETER and GOTCHA and that we
wanted our mag to remain unbiased we didn't
do either of it. After ANTICHRIST saw the
finished and released issue of CORRUPTION he
kicked us out of GP and we joined DOMINATORS.
And that was just the short version...
Anyway, years later I had long chats with
Oliver and we cleared all the problems that
were between us... So just a funny episode of
a long time in the scene.
(C): Oh, very interesting. Good to know... I learn
something new everyday. : )
Now let's continue with your favourites, okay?
(J): Demo Group: BLACKMAIL, ATG, FLASH INC., CREST
Demo......: DUTCH BREEZE/BML and ROYALITY by
DOMINATORS DESIGN
Coder.......: SES/GP and EINSTEIN/ATG/
DOMINATORS DESIGN (I have seen
what he was able to do...)
Graphician....: HEIN
Composer......: EVS and A-MAN
Cracking Group: DOMINATORS
Cracker.......: SNACKY
Game..........: CALIFORNIA GAMES
Disc Magazine..: SHOCK, MAMBA
Book...........: A SON OF THE CIRCUS by JOHN
IRVING
Movie............: BLUES BROTHERS
Music............: Depends on my mood.
(C): Some nice and interesting answers you gave,
hehe...
So, do you think that the C64 scene is already
dead? If not, how long do you think will it stay
alive?
(J): The scene will remain alive as long as there
are still some freaks who joy it. When I look
around in the scene nowadays there are more
people because of nostalgic reasons than
anything else.
(C): Yeah, right... Exactly my opinion!
Can you say us please, which was the best
experience you had in your scene career on
our beloved CBM64?
(J): The best experiences were when I met long
time scene-friends of mine in real life. This
friendship that holds some of us together is
incredible and cannot be compared to any
other scene. I could give you lots of examples
for that but I'll try to keep it short. One
example is when I visited friends like SCORPIE
(Belgium), JRC (Spain), Gabriel (Italy) or
Phoenix(Australia) and stayed at their places
and went out partying with them and had real
fun. The other thing is meeting up at parties
like the ECTS Show in London or the TRIBUTE
party. I can't understand people who spent the
whole time behind the monitor at the party, I
always went out with some sceners - just had
fun.
So to sum it up, the best experience were all
the people I met thanks to the scene, and the
friends I found there. I am still in contact with
most of the persons I consider friends, though
they even don't have a C64 or a relation to the
scene anymore.
(C): Nice aspect, you mentioned! Cool...
And what don't you like that much about the
scene?
(J): That I don't have the time for it right now...
(C): Hehe, tricky question - tricky answer!
By the way, do you miss the spirit of the so
called GOLDEN days? What's your opinion about
the scene nowadays?
(J): As you can see from the answer before the
last one, I do of course miss the spirit of the
old days. A lot of my friends and a lot of real
scene legends have left the scene, so it can't
be the same anymore! Let me be honest, I don't
know much about the scene nowadays as I
simply don't have the time to be as active as I
used to be in former years, so I don't want to
judge it.
(C): Another question to let us go back into the old
days, hehe... I always ask that people in
interviews, because it's just a more or less
important "part" of the scene... So, did you
ever have any problems with other sceners or
maybe even had some wars?
(J): Yeah, quite a lot of them actually. That was
mainly during the time I was on the boards in
the States. ANTICHRIST, THOR, DUKE or RADAR
just to mention a few. Even though I have a
good relation to most of them nowadays. When I
remember how much fun we had with RADAR
during the TRIBUTE party in Gothenburg and
how we have been fighting on the BBS'... Funny.
(C): Yup, with wars it's really mostly very funny.
Nice to see that you have the same attitude. ; )
By the way, if you had to go to a lonely island
and you could only three things with you, what
would these three things be?
(J): A brewery, a PC with Internet connection and
Cindy Crawford.
(C): Hehe... Funny! I just imagine how you are taking
a brewery with you... : )
Also interesting that you mentioned Cindy
Crawford. You are the second one we asked
this question and you are the second one
replying with a woman's name! Nice to see that
sceners don't only have the computer in mind...
But let's leave this topic...
What is your opinion about the new Internet-
BBSs? Do they give you the same feeling as the
real CBM64 BBSs?
(J): No, not at all. I somehow liked the way the
boards looked like in UCBBS or C-BASE (Cyborg
modded of course!) and the boards in the net
still look different. But basically it is a good
idea and it is amazing who pops up there once
in a while, as almost every former scener has
an Internet account today.
(C): Yes, that's the only positive point about these
net boards...
Another small tricky question: How many
sceners do you think are in the scene right
now compared to its best times?
(J): Haven't counted them, but I guess it's only
like 10% of the people left.
(C): And now the show goes on with some
brainstorming...
(J): PC........: Don't wanna live without it anymore.
Internet...: Most important invention of the
last decades.
Phreaking: Necessary to call the boards.
Boards...: They kept the scene going some
years ago. That was a good and
funny time.
Trackmos.: Nice.
Parties..: Scenewise: Good to meet people you
don't see too often and to have
some beers together.
Sex........: One of the reasons to live.
Alcohol: Speeds up every party.
(C): Now I also want to know, what importance the
CBM64 had or still has in your life?
(J): It was an important time for me as I was still
active and spent lots of time on the boards or
with swapping, writing for CORRUPTION or
whatever. I met lots of nice persons from all
over the world, and that's what it is all about.
But it didn't have any impact on my real life,
except for the fact that I still have some
friends around the globe I know from the C64
scene.
(C): Hey, that is something, isn't it!?!
Good that you mentioned CORRUPTION again...
Why did you and DEFF stop doing it?
(J): That's quite simple, we didn't have the time
anymore. There are periods in your life where
it is no problem to spend a whole weekend on
writing the texts for a magazine, but as these
times were over, we decided to stop. We had to
concentrate on our jobs/studies and our girl-
friends and other friends were going mad as
well... So...
(C): Yeah, understandable... Let's hope that this
destiny won't get us, THE CREST staff, as well,
hehe... :)
Now you can talk about whatever you want,
because we got through all the questions...
(J): Okay, cheers out to the F4CG family, the
PROPAGANDA staff, Andreas, Jo, Gabriele, Mario
and all ex-AVANTGARDE'rs, Con, Jason, Shawn,
Dave, Barry, Jean and all the others I met
during my time in the scene.
All old contacts of mine shall free to contact
me at: TOBIAS.RICHTER(at)NWN.DE and/or look
at my home at...
http://privat.schlund.de/t_richter/
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Also to find some interesting C64 stuff!
(C): Yo, that's it! Thank you so very much for
being so nice and answering all these
questions so patiently!
Have a nice time... Bye!
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Held by: SHOK'RAY/MSP
Held on: 20. 04. 1998
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(C) THE CREST 1998
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world of arts
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WORLD OF ARTS
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It's time again to take a closer look at some
competition graphics with no mercy... This time I'll
review the ones from the MEKKA + SYMPOSIUM '98.
Overall you can say that the competition got
supported quite well, even though some of the
graphics can be called "cheap-fake" ones... But that
is the negative side that haunts every comppetition!
The results at the party looked like this...
1. DU GEMEINER MOERDER... by RAYDEN/AFL + CYCLONE
2. FANTASTICA by HANS WURST/ONSLAUGHT
3. I'LL REMEMBER by HARDSEQUENCER/DYTEC
4. WELCOME TO TELEKOM by RAZE/HITMEN
5. FIRESTARTER by SEBALOZ/LEPSI DE
6. CHRIS HUELSBECK by ZEALOT/OUT OF ORDER
7. TYRANY by AEG/SMASH DESIGNS
8. MONSTER by KATON/LEPSI DE
9. KNIGHT by CRAYON/ANUBIS
10. LURKING DEATH by ASSASSIN/WILLOW
11. LOVE by ZEITGEIST/CIVITAS
12. DISSECTOR by BRAINSMASHER/CIVITAS
13. KENTUCKY by FLIP/CENTRIC
14. AMAZON by BLEZE/WILLOW
15. PORTRAET DES PROSP. ...by BUGJAM/ROLE
16. EMPTYVIEW by HOGAN/REFLEX
I hope that my result-list won't be very different. :)
But like almost all graphician I consider more the
technical side of the graphic...
And now over to the graphics themselves...
HARDSEQUENCER/DYTEC
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A MADONNA-coverup, which was painted in the I-FLI
mode... You can see MADONNA's face, which gets
surrounded by colour-waves.
Originality: 40% Conversion: 52% Mode-Usage: 25%
The I-FLI mode didn't get used very well. The whole
thing also might have been possible in Koala or at
least in FLI.
> 39%
KATON/LEPSI DE
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An I-FLI picture, which shows us an (alien) figure,
that gets fightened by courageous hero. The whole
thing gets surrounded by colour-waves...
Originality: 61% Conversion: 74% Mode-Usage: 82%
A really well-painted I-FLI picture, although it
flickers a lot.
> 72%
BRAINSMASHER/CIVITAS
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A Koala-something, that can be called nothing but
ugly... Haven't got a clue what this should be!
Originality: 3% Conversion: 1% Mode-Usage: 15%
No more explainations needed!
> 6%
SEBALOZ/LEPSI
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An MCI-picture, which shows a warrior... Well painted
and good colour combination...
Originality: 53% Conversion: 56% Mode Usage: 50%
One of the better competition graphics... But there
are some parts in the picture that are flickering
very much!
> 53%
HOGAN/REFLEX
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Again an Interlace picture that mirrors a monster(?)
face... Surrounded by colour-waves...
Originality: 43% Conversion: 36% Mode Usage: 41%
With some more fill ins and colours this picture
possibly might have scored a but higher.
> 40%
ZEALOT/OUT OF ORDER
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Converted or not, that's the question here... What
ever... This one displays the ugly something, that
some guys call a face... ;) ...and in this case the face
of the well-known composer CHRIS HUELSBECK (Giana
Sisters)...
Originality: 25% Conversion: 28% Mode Usage: 15%
A pity that only four colours got used for the whole
picture! To less for a mode that takes more than 120
blocks unpacked...
> 23%
CRAYON/ANUBIS
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An I-FLI picture that possibly displays a knight... The
screen got filled up with a logo...
Originality: 12% Conversion: 30% Mode Usage: 31%
> 24%
RAYDEN + CYCLONE
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And again one of the ripped, eh sorry converted
RAYDEN-productions... An I-FLI picture showing an
angry looking face... Very colourfull but badly
converted!
Originality: 85% Conversion: 10% Mode Usage: 70%
The conversion (in that case digitally converted
from Amiga) is very bad! ...Usually this picture
shouldn't have been allowed to take place in this
competition... A poverty certificate for the
organisers and even lamer from RAYDEN!
> 55%
BLEZE/WILLOW
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A FLI-picture that shows some kind of woman as
warrior... Bad colours and shape!
Originality: 5% Conversion: 12% Mode-Usage: 25%
No other comments...
> 14%
RAZE/HITMEN
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A very well painted hires single colour picture that
obviously shows a man, totally nerved by the
Telekom...
Originality: 51% Conversion: 42% Mode Usage: 50%
The conversion is very good, except some smaller
mistakes...
> 48%
AEG/SMASH DESIGNS
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A Koala-picture showing a landscape from outer
space... A quite pretty one...
Originality: 30% Conversion: 48% Mode Usage: 65%
Because of missing originality I can only give 30%...
> 48%
BUGJAM/ROLE
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Another Koala-picture taking us into another world.
The shapes and colour-combinations weren't chosen
very well partly.
Originality: 35% Conversion: 36% Mode Usage: 56%
With a little bit more sense for quality this picture
might have become quite good. But as mentioned
before, the shapes are partly too strange!
> 42%
HANS WURST/ONSLAUGHT
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An I-FLI picture, which shows a lying nacked girl.
Nothing special at all...
Originality: 50% Conversion: 40% Mode Usage: 44%
Also here some shapes are a little bit strange, even
though the I-FLI mode gives good possibilities to do
them better.
Btw, this picture surely is digitally converted. So no
real artistic value...
> 45%
ZEITGEIST/CIVITAS
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One of the Koala-pictures that better never should
have seen daylight... I wonder what the painter wants
to say us with this picture...
Originality: 10% Conversion: 3% Mode Usage: 10%
No more words to waste for this one...
> 8%
FLIP/CENTRIC
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Another one of the bad compo-contributions. But
this time in the I-FLI mode... Displayed is a girl
(perhaps a bitch?)...
Originality: 10% Conversion: 5% Mode Usage: 2%
Bad shapes, massive flickering and many other
things to find fault with...
> 6%
ASSASSIN/WILLOW
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A Koala-picture that shows two guys with a gun
looking for each other to shoot each other.
Originality: 45% Conversion: 22% Mode Usage: 29%
The two guys look really strange... Especially their
faces were painted badly. The rest is just too
simple.
> 32%
That were all pictures from the competition...
After all these reviews we get the following ranking:
1. MONSTER by KATON 72%
2. DU GEMEINER MOERDER... by RAYDEN + CYCLONE 55%
3. FIRESTARTER by SEBALOZ 53%
4. WELCOME TO TELEKOM by RAZE 48%
TYRANY by AEG 48%
6. FANTASTICA by HANS WURST 45%
7. PORTRAET DES PROSP. ...by BUGJAM 42%
8. EMPTYVIEW by HOGAN 40%
9. I'LL REMEMBER by HARDSEQUENCER 39%
10. LURKING DEATH by ASSASSIN 32%
11. KNIGHT by CRAYON 24%
12. CHRIS HUELSBECK by ZEALOT 23%
13. AMAZON by BLEZE 14%
14. LOVE by ZEITGEIST 8%
15. DISSECTOR by BRAINSMASHER 6%
KENTUCKY by FLIP 6%
For the future I wish that more so-called graphicians
would concentrate on selfmade-products and quality.
I cannot accept it that an Amiga-converted picture
wins the CBM64 competition! ...Even if the one painted
the picture himself on the Amiga! Convertion stays
convertion!
I also want to excuse me for this lousy review of the
competition pictures, but I had to do it under
extreme time pressure because of personal problems
and HARDSEQUENCER couldn't do the review, as he
contributed to the competition himself.
So, that explains why.
'Til next time...
SHOK'RAY
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world of bytes
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WORLD OF BYTES
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Here we go again with the chapter that covers the
demo-scene. This time we can of course present you
the latest infos about what is going on on the demo-
market as well as a review! And this time we can give
you a closer look at the 3rd place from the demo-
competition at the MEKKA +SYMPOSIUM'98... It's...
>>> KRESTYRON by OXYRON + CREST <<<
But first let's start with some news and happenings.
The April was a very good month for the demo-scene!
There were quite a nice bunch of more or less
important parties, where a good amount of demos got
released.
Most important was of course the MEKKA +SYMPOSIUM-
party, which took place at the Easter weekend. First
place there was the maybe last demo from AEG/SMASH
DESIGNS called OUR DARKNESS, followed by REANIMATED
by HITMEN and a great co-op demo by OXYRON and
CREST named KRESTYRON, which you'll find reviewed
some pages later in this chapter... Besides this also
PADUA released a dentro called SPLISH SPLASH,
CASCADE the sequel to TRIP TO NEPA(L) and also some
other demos from groups like W. O.W., WILLOW and
others.
Another party was RUSH HOURS at the end of April.
There got released about 10 demos. First place
became PATHOLOGY by FRACTION followed by DRACO's
TAKE OFF. Places 3 and 4 got gained by RULE 3 and
LEPSI DE.
There also got released the new trackmo from ARISE
named APPLAUSE, but it was damaged when showing in
the competition.
You guys can also look forward to the 5 YEARS DEMO
from CAUTION at the NORTH PARTY 2.
Besides this there is also said to be released a new
LEPSI DE demo by ZIELOK soon. So, watch out!
And now let's go with the review of...
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>>> KRESTYRON <<<
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A co-op demo OXYRON and CREST.
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Coding review by..: DANZIG/ALPHAFLIGHT 1970
Music review by...: KRISTIAN ROSTOEN/SHAPE/HITMEN
Graphic review by: SHOK'RAY/MSP + HARDSEQUENCER
-- ------------------------------------------------ --
It's me again, DANZIG, reviewing another demo for
THE CREST magazine!
Since we, the rulers from THE CREST, have our very
own taste in demos, we prefer the old styled and
really cool coded ones.
I review the demo from the MEKKA +SYMPOSIUM-party
WE declaired as the best one: KRESTYRON/OXYRON!
First of all I have to excuse the fact that demos I
like I always praise as soooo fucking cool, but they
always are!
And this time it's again the same.
Now let's begin where all demos start:
THE INTRO
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Coding..: Displayed is a Hires-FLI logo saying CREST in
some strange letters (seems to be an old
work from Daniel) with a nice Hires-FLI-
rasterroutine, leaving the painted colours
as the last. Pretty cool!
> 79%
Graphic: The CREST logo in Hires-FLI isn't that
genious.
Really positive about this logo is that the
graphic mode got used very well by using
many different colours.
> 47%
Music.......: Much has been said and written about
MITCH +DANE. Some has been very positive
while some has been extremely negative.
Whether or not the critics has been fair is
really not for me to decide but I have
however made up my own opinion about this
swedish duo (don't worry, I won't hold the
fact that you are Swedes against you ; ) )
and I think I'll have to place myself
somewhere in the middle of the two poles,
with a bit more weight on the positive.
They have often been accused of being pure
VIBRANTS rip-offs and I am sort of willing to
agree on this.
The intro-music starts off in a VERY
vibrantish way, and if I didn't know better I
sure as hell would have mistaken it for
being a DRAX-tune. It's funky, got a nice
melody and some groovy bass-lines. It does,
however, miss those little variations,
breaks and some other small details to make
it a real killer. But, for what it's worth, it's
just an intro-tune and it sure gets the job
done.
> 80%
FIRST PART
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Coding..: A big multicolor-resoluted plasma with 7 (!)
colours. I laughed my ass away when GRAHAM
told me about him being fed up with all
these 4X4-plasma-effects, a resolution HE
invented! The routine uses a kind of FLD
with stretched sprites to display. Originally!
AEG tried to copy the plasma in his lame
demo but his one is smaller, only 3 colored
and NOT one frame (and ugly : ( ). The
rasters behind the plasma are zoomed at
the beginning of the part and also some
colorfading is installed sentencing the
phrase: "OXYRON: Code, not design". A lie
after all the years! ;)
> 92%
Graphic: Nothing except a hard to read 2X2 font.
No rating for this as it can't be seen as a
real graphic.
Music....: Now, is it really that bad to be accused of
sounding like VIBRANTS? A few years ago I
would have had to answer YES to that
question. Why? Because back then most
music sounded like that and as DRAX was
still active and doing what only he could,
any attempt of sounding like him would have
made you just another pathetic wannabe in
the crowd. But it's not like that anymore.
Times have changed. It's a new era. Most of
those who topped the charts in the late
80's and early 90's have moved on, and it
seems they took the groove, the funk, the
good melodies and the original tunes with
them on their journey. That kind of music is
not longer what counts, what matters. Now
it's monotone and heavy rhythms and
melodies that floats through the SID. Is it
for the good? It it what we need? I don't
know but it sure makes me appreciate
composers like MITCH +DANE a whole lot more.
But let's come to the tune now... :) Out of
my stereo floats some music that reminds
me a lot more of the swedish duo compared
to the first one. Very fast with some very
short notes. It's a rather short tune, I
doubt it lasts for much more that a minute.
Maybe that's why it bores me. It has nothing
special in it that appeals to me. There are
some ok breaks but all in all this sounds
like it was made in about minute as well.
> 55%
SECOND PART
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Coding..: Damned, the demoviewers have to suffer a
crazy CROSSBOW-joke before the
mindblasting routine is shown. He is talking
about DREAMS! The morale of it: A worldfirst
naked-chick-techtech in a cloud! Amazing! ; )
Then the real show begins: Vertical rasters
the sequel! In the demo ICE CREAM CASTLE, a
milestone in C64-demohistory, he did 8 (if I
remember right) vertical bars in FLI a lot of
people tried to copy but all failed caused
by uglyness, I claim. This time CROSSBOW
shows off with 7 small rasterbars, 3 big
bars, all over a 40(!) chars wide vertical
raster scrolling from right to left. KICKS!
I love it!
> 98%
Graphic: As first there is only this small naked
woman. Very, very small, but lovely painted.
In the real part there is again no graphic.
Just a nice usual font.
After the part there is displayed a hand
with the thumb up and letters showing
THUMBS UP! The hand shapes were well done
and the colourfadings are quite nice. This
Koala-piece fulfills what it's meant for.
> 69%
Music.......: All this time I have been talking about DRAX
and VIBRANTS and how MITCH +DANE sound so
very much like them. That is not the case
for the next tune.
I don't know if I should keep comparing them
to other composers as it makes it sound like
they have no skills at all but copying other
artists. Still I can't help at least mentioning
that this tune has something very
SHOOGOONish to it. Especially the
instruments. But enough about that, I'll try
to comment on this tune as if I'd never
heard of SHOOGOON. :)
It starts off slow, like in a kind of
mysterious way. Gives you the feeling it's
building up to something great but you just
don't know what. Then it starts going a bit
faster but it's not what I had been
expected. Disappointing. But then it comes.
What I had been waiting for. Take off! A
great bassline and a cool rhythm. And guess
what, it even has a melody that fits to it.
Some funky breaks and great variations.
Without doubt the best tune in this demo
and most definitely the best tune in 1998. I
believe I can listen to this tune for hours
and hours... Totally addictive!
> 90%
THIRD PART
- ------------ -
Coding..: A zooming FLI-scroller is what AXIS
contributed to the demo. The Y-zoom-tabs
where precalculated. I think AXIS ranks
high in the UNREADABLE-list with this part.
Nevertheless it looks awesome!
> 83%
Graphic: Here we get presented a co-productions by
DEEKAY, CUPID and FORBIDDEN CULT. The
shapes are partly not that good, but still
this OXYRON Koala logo is the best gfx in
this demo! Maybe the bad shapes were
caused by painting that piece live at the
party...
> 71%
Music.......: It is still the same like in the second part.
So no rating here.
FINAL CONCLUSION:
- ------------- -
Coding..: Get your hands on this onefiler, it's worth
the diskspace more than a lot!
> 88%
Graphic: Graphically seen this demo isn't that what
we are used to from these two groups. But
we must take into consideration that most
(maybe even all!) graphics have been
painted LIVE at the party! Personally I like
that last OXYRON logo by DK/CPD/FCT most.
> 62%
Music.......: I must say that I enjoyed the whole
soundtrack quite a lot. The second tune
pulls down the average a bit, but overall the
complete soundtrack scores an average of...
> 75%
Coding by GRAHAM +AXIS +CROSSBOW......: 88%
Graphics by DEEKAY +CUPID +FORBIDDEN CULT: 62%
Musics by MITCH +DANE.............................: 75%
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Overall...........................................: 75%
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party event coverage
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PARTY EVENT COVERAGE
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Hello everyone this is ECSIC/DYTEC/ACSORE here with
an exclusive party report from the MEKKA +
SYMPOSIUM '98, which took place on the Eastern-
weekend.
As in 1997 also this year the organizers of MEKKA+
SYMPOSIUM-Party managed to realize this event for
C64, Amiga and PC in Fallingbostel in northern
Germany. I for myself got in the situation to go
there, as in cause of HARDSEQUENCER's mother
having a rather bad disease he decided to stay home
and so I simply could take his seat in the car for
the return journey. Not the best circumstance, but I
just used this lastminute-opportunity. I also put up
with the long way by train in incredible anticipation
for the biggest german sceneparty.
As I arrived in Fallingbostel I actually wasn't in the
mood to deal with the exhausting way to the
Heidmarkhalle where the party took place, but what
was left for me? So I took my stuff and went to the
partyplace.
When I arrived there (with some help of a friendly
PC-freak... Hi!) I firstly was incredibly overwhelmed
by the impression that was offered to my eyes: sooo
many guys! No! I guess at all there were 900 to 1000
visitors and I have to admit that because of this
being my first BIG sceneparty. That was a deeply
moving moment and I surely won't ban it out of my
mind (like some people ban others on IRC... Hi
MENDRAKE!) !
Now, I put my thoughts on the important matters and
quickly payed the foolish entrance-fee of 50 DM and
started my seeking for DODGER and FATMAN, because
we had arranged to meet there and to be frank I had
my problems to find them in this swarm at least at
the beginning. But why should it be in another way, I
found what I searched and even if I only knew
DODGER from some telephone-calls, we recognized
ourselves quite fast (...a yellow t-shirt and braces!
Ts, ts, ts!) and from now on I wasn't alone anymore
in the wide, wild and wicked partyworld of the
computerscene!
Well, at first I thought it just was a pure mistake by
our beloved mother earth, that so many guy spent
their time by playing QUAKE or PSX and by swapping
some enchanting Triple X's, but as I had to see, they
really were seriously willing to make the long
journey and pay the entrance for thsi great delight.
Hmm, quite admirable, I think. Really. But what should
I, a real party-greenhorn, demand a lot from these
overtired but nevertheless party-hungry visitors...
That's not my right... Watch and learn was my motto.
And so I also did with the ACCEPT and METALVOTZE
guys when I saw how they came out. Envy and
jealousy penetrated my body as I saw how fantastic
the guys around FRIESE and SYNTAX enjoyed
themselves! I tried to copy their partystyle but
curiously didn't (in difference to them) find any
satisfaction in running onto the stage and shouting
"FICKEN!" all the time or going around the place very
funny and simply to party! Either this was caused by
much too less THC or alcohol in my blood or I am just
not a party-lion; but that's life, some have the
special thing and some not...
It's sometimes also very surprising, which persons
stands behind a handle. So it can surely happen that
the cute, nice boy from the house in the
neighbourhood transforms into an icecold meneater
as quick as a flash! Really!
But as we all know, the only reason for visiting such
a party are the releases, and ONLY the releases and
so I won't embezzle the warezyield of the SYMMEK '98.
The first compo that was helt was the music-
competition and I was astonished a lot when I saw
which sceners developed into musicians in that
short time. Not that bad when the scene gets new
talents from time to time in thi section, if this pays
or not... In my eyes, and I don't have any doubt, there
were four our five tracks which sounded really nice,
but the rest was quite low and so we had no other
way (at this noiselevel) than that which lead out of
the hall, but maybe we just missed the best ones
right in that time. Could be...
The next climax was the graphic-compo! Not only that
RAYDEN spoiled us with a new pic made by CYCLONE,
no, there was even more. Great artworks for sure,
but it became a real problem to distinguish the real
graphics from the fake-ones, so I felt a little bit
unsure in my skin, but maybe I just was a little bit
puzzled by the fact that this was my first
gfx-compo on a big screen, that's possible.
As last competition the demos appeared on the
screen. HITMEN showed their new demo REANIM8ED for
the demanding eyes of the visitors and also
CASCADE, WILLOW and WOW impressed the whole
partyplace with their new productions. Even the PC-
and Amiga-guys nodded agreeing and respectfully at
the sight of those real fireworks of style, art and
code. But also PADUA wasn't sleeping and
implemented the really funny idea to let the
audience since a karaoke-like song (of course
written by CUPID) during their demo and so YELLOW
SUBMARINE from THE BEATLES became the C64-scene-
hymn on the spot. Another nice one was produced
with a fusion of CREST and OXYRON. The style and the
code in this demo were really nice and kicked some
butt, in my opinion. Props to OXY, CREST and PDA for
keeping the level on a good standard!!! Thanks a lot!
But there was one question for the competitors that
still was left: How could you as a coder get the
attention from the guys in front of the big screen
after such a flood of quality?! Yeah, damn difficult,
I have to admit, but AEG from SMASH DESIGNS got an
inspiration or something else like this. The first
part of his plan was to let two demos compete in the
compo, but that's not all as you might guess. He also
fascinated all the present people with stunning 4X4-
pixel-code and as this wouldn't have brought him all
the votes he needed he went on to the final blow: He
asked his girlfriend (or fiance?) in the romantic
end-upscroller if she feels like to marry him!! To the
surprising of everyone she afterwards went onto
the stage and sais YES! That is love! We tried to find
out, if this all wasn't just directed by him, simply to
catch all the remaining votes by the pure warmth of
his heart, but seemingly this wasn't the case. So
AEG, the whole THE CREST staff wishes you and your
wife all the best for the future! May your marriage
will last forever.
And with these words I'm hardly at the end of this
report, but I still want to use the last lines to say
something about this party in general. At all the
partyplace seemed relativly clean and also the
toilets were in a good condition in relation to this
nuch of people. Unfortunately the food was quite
expensive, in my opinion, and so I was very lucky
that I took some provisions to this party and I also
could take some advantages out of these cute
sausages (Bautzner Senf!) DODGER had brought with
him. I'll thank you on the usual way... You know what I
mean, Lars. ; )
Also the attempt to build up a quiet sleeping-tent
was okay, because in this one there was really
silence. But either we haven't realized this in that
night or it just was the pure reality: It was damn
fucking cold in there!! So we came to the conclusion
to prefer a sleeping-place under the tables and yes,
it was noisy...
Another thing we recognized especially was that the
sound-PA wasn't the very best and so we haven't had
any interest to follow advises or the other crap
that came out of the speakers introduced by this
well-known Playstation-jingle after three or four
times. Maybe we better wouldn't have placed that
near to the speakers, but okay.
The last point I have to take into consideration was
the lame gfx-compo. I can't understand how some of
these pics could be voted that high and others (e.g.
the really nice pic from HOGAN/REFLEX!) were at so
low places, really confusing a little bit. This also
applies for the music-compo, but in that case I
didn't care a lot. Some things possibly can't be
understood or something...
Well, what's left? At all the party was really cool and
in view of the funny time we had there, we surely
will be at MEKKA +SYMPOSIUM next year again.
I hope you gained some impressions of this one, even
of theyr were only with my personal point of view.
ECSIC/DYTEC/ACSORE
the crestboard
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In this chapter you can find the addresses of many
of our readers, who are looking for swap-mates and
stuff. Hope you can find the right ones!
To see your own address in here, you can simply
write it down on the backside of our votesheet, send
us your address via E-mail to: DYTEC(at)HOTMAIL.COM
or via snail-mail to... XXXXXX XXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXX XXXXX XXX
XXXXX XXXXXX
XXXXXXX
or leave us your address on the major us-boards.
[A] [A]
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ACIDCHILD of TABOO - E-mail: WOLFRAM.HESS(at)
- --------------- - SZ-ONLINE.DE
XXXXXXX XXXX - 4 the latest illegal
XXXXXXXXXXX XXX. XX releases
XXXXX XXXXXXX - 4 swapping old demos+mags
XXXXXXX - 4 covers, beermats, stamps
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ALIEN/W.O.W. - E-mail: SKONARKOWSKI(at)
- -------- - AOL.COM
XXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXX XXX. XXX - No swap!
XXXXX XXXXXXXX - just for music orders
XXXXXXX
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[A] [A]
-- ---------------------------------------------------- --
ALMIGHTY GOD of NN/ROLE/W.O.W.- 4 100% to
- -------------------------- - disksenders
XXXXXXX XXXXXXX - 4 swap on C64,
X/.XXXXXXXX XXXXX. XXXXX XX. XX A500, A1200 and
XXXXX XXXXXX-X/X.XX XXXXXXXX PSX
XXXXXX XXXXXXX (XXXXX) - 4 friendship
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ARES of IRONIC - E-mail: ARES2(at)
- ----------- - FRIKO2.ONET.PL
XXXXX XXXXXXX
XX. XXXXXXXXXXXXX XX/XXX
XX-XXX XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXX
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[A-B] [A-B]
-- ------------------------------------ --
ARGOS of ALPHAFLIGHT 1970
- ---------------------- -- 4 old demo/game
XXXXXXX XXXXX swap
XXXXXXXXX XXX X - 4 all AFL releases
XXXXX XXXXXXXX - 100% to all
XXXXXXX
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B. M. MAX of X-VECTOR/OXYGEN- 4 swap + friendship
- ------------------------- - - no more polish ctx
XXXXX XXX - 100% reply to all-
X. XXXXXX XX/XX except polish guys
XX-XXX XXXXXX - game projecting on
XXXXXX on C64 and PC
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[B-C] [B-C]
-- ------------------------------------ --
BISHOP of SAMAR
- ------------ -
XXXXXX XXXXX - no more polish dudes
XX. XXXXXX X X/X - cover swap (+disk)
XX-XXX XXXXXXXXXX XXXX
XXXXXX
-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --
CALYPSO of AMNESIA
- --------------- -
XXXXX XXXXXXXX - NO swapping!
XXXXXXXXXXX. X
XXXX XX XXXXXX
XXXXXXX
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[C] [C]
-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --
CASH of TRIAD
- ---------- -
XXXX XXXXXXXXX - 100% reply
XXXXXXXXXXX. X X - 4 old demos, mags + games
XXXXX XXXXXXX
XXXXXX
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CENTRAX of SAMAR/TF - E-mail: CENTREE(at)
- ---------------- - HOTMAIL.COM
XXXXXX XXXXXXX - SAMAR warez, THE FACTORY
XXXXXXX XX X/X covers
XX-XXX XXXXXXXXXX XXXX - +60K tools, infos etc.
XXXXXX - Type'O'Negative fan club
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[C] [C]
-- -------------------------------------------------- --
CLAYSTER of ADEQUATE
- ----------------- -
XXXXXXX XXXXXXX - 4 1541/81 swap - 100%
XXXXXXXXX X/XX
XX-XXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXX
-- -------------------------------------------------- --
CLEVER of BUTCHERS/RB
- ----------------- -
XXXXX XXXX - A1200 swap
XX. XXXXXXXX XX - coders especially
XX-XXX XXXXX welcome
XXXXXX
-- -------------------------------------------------- --
[C] [C]
-- --------------------------------------------------- --
COLITT of DE-KODER
- -------------- -
XXXXXX XXXXXXXX - 4 joining D-K
XX. XXXXXX XX/X
XX-800 Zabrze
XXXXXX
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COMMANDER of ROLE
- ------------- - - 4 joining ROLE
XXXXX XXXXXXX - 4 ROCK'N'ROLE and
XXXXXXXXXXXXXX XX/X X ARACHNOPHOBIA magazines
XXXX XXXX
XXXXXXX
-- ---------------------------------------- --
[C-D] [C-D]
-- ------------------------------------ --
CREB of EXCESS - E-mail: 0531347326-32(at)
- ---------- - BTXGATE.DE
XXXXX XXXXX - 1300 C64 demos
XXXXXXXXX. XX - old and new stuff
XXXXX XXXXXXX - new contacts
XXXXXXX - "new" old cracks
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DOOMED of PADUA
- ----------- - - more contax
XXXXXX XXXXXX - friendship
XXXXXXX XX X X - 100% to all
XXXX XX XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXX
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[D] [D]
-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --
DR. SOFT of ALBION - E-mail: GOTHREK(at)
- -------------- - UM.AMU.EDU.PL
XXXXXXXXX XXXXX - reliable+quality swap
XX. XXXXXXXXXX XX/XX - VITALITY magazine HQ
XX-XXX XXXX - covers trade
XXXXXX - Just try it!
-- --------------------------------------------------- --
DROOPY of AMORPHIS/SHELTERS
- ----------------------- -
XXXXXX XXXXX - swap / 100%
XXXXXXXXXX XX/X
XX-XXX XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXX
-- --------------------------------------------------- --
[E] [E]
-- ---------------------------------------------------- --
ERNIE of DARK CRYSTAL/ANUBIS
- ------------------------ -
XXXXXX XXXXXX - friendship swap
XX XXXXXXX XXX, XXXXXXXXXX - swap with a girl
XXXXX, XXXX XXX
XXXXXX XXXXXXX
-- ---------------------------------------------------- --
E.U. GENIUSZ of SCORN/AUTHORITY
- ---------------------------- - - covers
XXXXXXXX XXXXXX - votesheets
XXXXXXX X X/XX - 100% reply
XX-XXX XXXXXXX
XXXXXX
-- ---------------------------------------------------- --
[E-F] [E-F]
-- ------------------------------------ --
EXIN
- - -
XXXXXXXXX XXXXXX - 4 gfx swap
XXXXX-XXXXX XXX. XX X - 4 new contax
XXXXX XXXXXXX - 4 good swap
XXXXXXX
-- ------------------------------------ --
FANGORN of ALC/TNV/WC
- ----------------- - - really fast swap
XXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXX - 100% reply
XX. XXXXXXXXXXXXXX XX/XX- join ALLIANCE
XX-XXX XXXXX
XXXXXX
-- ------------------------------------- --
[F] [F]
-- -------------------------------------- --
FANTASTIC ZOOL of SMASH
- ------------------- -- 4 the latest (il)legal
XXXXXXX XXXX - 4 friendship
XXXXXXXXXXXXX XXX. X - NO nazis!
XXXXX XXXXXXXX - tape swap
XXXXXXX
-- ------------------------------------------- --
FATMAN of DYTEC/REMEMBER
- -------------------- -- 4 THE CREST magazine
XXXX XXXXXXXXXX - 4 all REMEMBER and
XXXXXXXXXX. XX DYTEC releases
XXXXX XXXXXX - 4 old and hot stuff
XXXXXXX
-- -------------------------------------------- --
[F] [F]
-- --------------------------------------------- --
FIREFOX of WILLOW
- -------------- -
XXXXXX XXXXXXXX - 4 hot'n' cool
XXXXXX-XXXXXXX-XXX. X speedswap
XXXXX XXXXXX - 100% reply to all
XXXXXXX
-- --------------------------------------------- --
FLASH of REFLEX/SCHN+EXON
- ---------------------- -
XXXXXX XXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXX XX X/X
XX-XXX XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXX
-- --------------------------------------------- --
[F] [F]
-- ---------------------------------------------- --
FLEA of DE-KODER
- ------------- -
XXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXX - always reply
XXXXXXX XX/X - graffiti-foto swap
XX-XXX XXXXXXX - also for normal swap
XXXXXX
-- ---------------------------------------- --
FLOYD of WILLOW/PANIC/TMP
- --------------------- -- speedswap
XXXX XXXXX - friendship
XX XXXXXXXX XX - 100% reply
XXXXX XXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXX
-- ---------------------------------------- --
[F-G] [F-G]
-- ------------------------------------ --
FUNXILLA of SCS+TRC
- --------------- -
XXXXX XX XXX - quality swap
XXXXXXXXXXXXX X - 100% reply
XXXX XX XXXXXXX
XXXXXXX
-- ------------------------------------ --
G of ROLE
- ------ -
XXXXXXX XXXXXXXX - 4 swap and gfx on 64 and
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX X Amiga
XXXX XXXXXXX
XXXXXXX
-- ----------------------------------------- --
[G-H] [G-H]
-- ------------------------------------ --
GAXAR of ROLE/TEMPEST
- ----------------- -
XXXXX XXXXXXXX - new address!
XXX XXXX XX., XXX XXXXXXXX
XXX XXXX
XXXXXXXXX
-- ------------------------------------ --
HEINMUECK of TUM/BP
- --------------- -
XXXX XXXXXXXXX - 4 swap
XX XXXXXXXXXXX X - 100% reply
XXXXX XXXX
XXXXXXX
-- ------------------------------------ --
[H] [H]
-- ------------------------------------- --
HUMAN of AUTHORITY
- --------------- -
XXXXXX XXXXXX - only cover-swap
XXXXXXXXXXX XX/XX - 100%
XX-XXX XXXXX
XXXXXX
-- ------------------------------------- --
HUNCHI of MAYHEM
- ------------- - - I'm still searching for new
XXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXX XXX!
X. XXXXXX X/X - 100% answer 4 all!
XX-XXX XXXXXXXX - 4 MAYHEM warez!
XXXXXX
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[I-L] [I-L]
-- --------------------------------------------- --
INTRUDER of F4CG/REMEMBER- E-mail: INTRUDER(at)
- ---------------------- - C64.ORG
XXX XXX XXX X - for PC-swap (ZIP-
XXXXX XXXXXX drive and CDs)
XXXXXXX - only reliable people
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LEMING of NIPSON/FATUM - E-mail:LEMI(at)YO2KJO.
- ------------------- - AMPR.ORG
XXXXXXXX XXXXXXX - always reply!
XXX XXXXXXX - megaswapping
XXXXXXX X non-stop
XXXXX XXXXXXX
XXXXXX
-- ------------------------------------------- --
[L-M] [L-M]
-- ------------------------------------ --
LJ of LASSER
- --------- -
XXXXXX XXXXXX
XX. XXXXXX XX
XX-XXX XXXXX
XXXXXX
-- ------------------------------------ --
MAIDEN of COMMODORE SCENE- COMMODORE SCENE
- ---------------------- -- ETERNITY magazine
XXXXXXX XXXXX - game projects
XX XXXXXXXXXX XXXX - all contacts welcome
XXXXXXX, XXXXXXXXXX - 100% reply
XX XX XXX, XXXXXXX
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[M] [M]
-- -------------------------------------------- --
MANEX of ANUBIS/STARDUST
- --------------------- -
XXXX XXXXXX - friendship
XXXXXXXX XXX - music editor swap
XXXXX XXXXXXX - 100%
XXXXX XXXXXXXX
-- -------------------------------------------- --
MANIK of LAXITY - real slovakian power
- ------------ - - best cracks ever done
XXXXX XXXX - punk and metal tapes
XXXXXXXX XX, XXXXXXX XXX- posters and pictures
XXXXX XXXXXXXXXX - 100% reply to you
XXXXXXXX - NO nazis and racists!
-- ------------------------------------------- --
[M] [M]
-- -------------------------------------------- --
MASTER S of EXCESS
- --------------- -
XXX - 4 all the EXCESS wares
XXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXX XXXXXX
XXXXXXX
-- -------------------------------------------- --
MAVERICK of SAMAR
- -------------- -
XXXXXXXX XXXXX - only active guys and
XXXXXXXXXXX XXXXX XX XXXXX!
XXXX XXXXXXXX
XXXXXXX
-- -------------------------------------------- --
[M] [M]
-- --------------------------------------------- --
MINOS of DRACO/VAUDERVILLE
- ---------------------- -
XXXXX XXXXXXXXXXX - 100% reply
XXXXXXXXX X/XX
XX-XXX XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXX
-- --------------------------------------------- --
MORPHEUS of FLASH INC.
- ------------------ -
XXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXX - 4 all FHI demos
XXXXXXXXXX. XXX - NO ordinary swap!
XXXXX XXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXX
-- --------------------------------------------- --
[M-N] [M-N]
-- ------------------------------------ --
MR. ALPHA of F4CG/NOSTALGIA
- ----------------------- -
XXXXX XXXXXXXX - 4 all F4CG and
XXXXXXXXX XX NOSTALGIA wares
XXXX XXXXXXX
XXXXXXX
-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --
NAPHALM of ONSLAUGHT/SCORN
- ----------------------- -- 4 swap
XXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXX - 4 join to SCORN
XXXXXXXX XX X/X - 100% reply
XX-XXX XXXXXXXX
XXXXXX
-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --
[N] [N]
-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --
NEOTEC of F4CG
- ----------- -
XXXXXXX XXXX - 4 the latest F4Cg warez
XXXXXXXXXXX. XX - 4 everything concerning
XXXXX XXXXXXXX NEWS PRESS magazine
XXXXXXX
-- ----------------------------------------- --
NOSTALGIA
- ----- -
XXXXXX XX - 100% reply
XXXXX XXXXXXXX
XXXXXX
-- ----------------------------------------- --
[O-P] [O-P]
-- ------------------------------------ --
PHYTON of SCORN/BZDET DES.
- ---------------------- -
XXXXXX XXXXXXXXXX - NO new contacts!
XXXXXX XX - Sorry, but life is
XXXXX XXXXXXX brutal for all!
XXXXXX
-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --
PSYCHIK of FATUM
- ------------- -
XXXXXX XXXXXX
XX. XXXXXXXX XXXXXXX X/XXX
XX-XXX XXXXXX
XXXXXX
-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --
[Q-R] [Q-R]
-- ------------------------------------ --
RACOON of HITMEN/LEPSI DE
- ---------------------- -
XXXX XXXXXXXXXX - 100% reply to all
XXXXXXXXXXXXX. XX
XXXXX XXXXX
XXXXXXX
-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --
RAMMY of HITMEN
- ----------- - - C64 and A600
XXXXX XXXXXXXXX - HITMEN warez
XXXXXXX XX - Sex is boring!
XX-XXX XXXXXXXX
XXXXXX
-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --
[R] [R]
-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --
RANDY of NIPSON
- ------------ -
XXX XXXXXXXX - only musicians
XXXXXXXXXXXXX X/XX- 100% reply
XX-XXX XXXXXXX
XXXXXX
-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --
RED REDBY of ANUBIS - E-mail: REDREDBY(at)YAHOO.COM
- ---------------- - - friendship
XXXXX XXXXX - join to ANUBIS
XXXXXXX XXX - long notes
XXXXX XXXXXXX - 100% reply to all
XXXXX XXXXXXXX - fast swap
-- ----------------------------------------------- --
[R] [R]
-- ------------------------------------------------ --
RHOBA Q - 4 friendly, 100% reliable
- ---- - swap!
XXXXX XXXXX - 4 every creature from
XX. XXXXXXXXXXXXX X/XX XXXXX XXXXXX
XX-XXX XXXXX - need a lot of new contax
XXXXXX - Please write 2 me!
-- ---------------------------------------------- --
RIDDLER of ACTIVE
- ------------- -
XXXX XXXXX - 4 everything concerning
XXXXXXXXX XX X ACTIVE
XXXXX XXXXX
XXXXXX
-- ---------------------------------------------- --
[R] [R]
-- ----------------------------------------------- --
RULER of APYDIA
- ------------ -
XXXXX XXX - NO swap!
XXXXXXXXXXXX XX/XX
XX-XXX XXXXXXXX
XXXXXX
-- ----------------------------------------------- --
RUZT
- --
XXXXXXXXXXXXXX - swap
XXXXXXX XX/X - covaz!
XX-XXX XXXXXXXXXX XXXX
XXXXXX
-- ----------------------------------------------- --
[S] [S]
-- ------------------------------------------------ --
SAHIR of SAMAR and FAITH
- --------------------- -- speed swap
XXXX XXXXXX - 100% answer to all
XXXXXX X X/X sceners
XX-XXX XXXXXXXXXX XXXX - long/short notes
XXXXXX
-- ------------------------------------------------ --
SCARE of ACTIVE
- ------------ -
XXXXX XXXXXXX - 4 the latest releases
XX XXXXXXXXX X from ACTIVE
XXXXX XXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXX
-- ------------------------------------------------ --
[S] [S]
-- ------------------------------------------------- --
SCOOBY of LIGHT
- ------------ -
XXXXXXXX XXXXXX - NO ordinary swapping!
X-XXXXXX XX
XXXXX XXXXXXXX
XXXXXX
-- ---------------------------------------- --
SCORPE of WILLOW/PANIC- fast and hot swap
- ------------------- -- 100% reply to everyone
XXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXX - If you're looking for a
XXXXXXXXXXXX. XX X fast'n'reliable contact,
XXXXX XXXXXX I'm your man!
XXXXXXX
-- -------------------------------------------- --
[S] [S]
-- --------------------------------------------- --
SHAPIE of SCORN/APYDIA
- ------------------- - - music orders (4
XXXXXX XXXX games, demos, etc. )
XX. XXXXXXXX XX/XX - swap only with
XX-XXX XXXXXXXX foreigners
XXXXXX - try
-- ---------------------------------------- --
SIMONE of SCHN+EXON/KRECIKI
- ------------------------ -
XXXX XXXXXX - NO new contacts!
XXXXXXXXXXX XX/XX
XX-XXX XXXX
XXXXXX
-- --------------------------------------------- --
[S] [S]
-- ---------------------------------------------- --
SPACE ROY of MEGASTYLE - E-mail: ROTTEROY(at)
- ------------------- - HOTMAIL.COM
XXX XXXXXXX - 4 all MSI/MSP wares
XXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXX XX. XX - NO ordinary swapping!
XXXX XXXX
XXXXXX
-- ------------------------------------------------ --
SPLATTERHEAD of SCS+TRC
- ------------------- -
XXXX XXXXXXX - 4 all dutch coop
XXXXXXXXX. X releases
XXXX XX XXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXX
-- ------------------------------------------------ --
[S] [S]
-- ------------------------------------------------- --
SPLATTERPUNK of VULTURE
- ------------------- -
XXXXXX XXXXXXXX - 4 covers and VULTURE
XX. XXXXXXXXXXX XX/XX stuff
XX-XXX XXXXXXXX
XXXXXX
-- ------------------------------------------------- --
STAN of HITMEN - E-mail: STAN(at)
- ----------- - BEER.COM
XXXXXXX XXXXXX - 4 all HITMEN wares
XXXXXXX. XX X - 4 BRAINFART papermag
XXXXX XXX. XXXXXX
XXXXXXX
-- --------------------------------------------------- --
[T] [T]
-- ---------------------------------------------------- --
THORGAL of DE-KODER
- --------------- -
XXXXX XXXXXXXXX - 4 swap 64/128
XX. XXXXXXXXXXX XX/X
XX-XXX XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXX
-- ---------------------------------------------------- --
THRONE of PANIC - 4 friendly swap
- ------------ - - 4 covers and tape swap
XXXXX XXXXXXX - 4 PNC, EB, DC, AMB wares
XXXXXXXXXXXXX X X XX- 4 old and new wares
XXXXX XXXXXXXXX - 4 joining PANIC or EB
XXXXXXX - 100% reply to all
-- ---------------------------------------------------- --
[T] [T]
-- ----------------------------------------------------- --
TIMIX of SAMAR
- ----------- -
XXXXX XXXXX - 100% reply
X.X. XXXXXXX XX/XX
XX-XXX XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXX
-- ----------------------------------------------------- --
TROOP of LAXITY - E-mail: COMMISH(at)
- ------------ - CONCEPTS.COM
XXXXXXX XXXXXXX - 4 megaswap
XXXXXXXXXXXX XX
XXXX XX XXXX
XXXXXXX
-- ----------------------------------------------------- --
[T] [T]
-- ------------------------------------------------------ --
TURBO of UNREAL - always fast reply
- ----------- - - hot/old - legal/illegal
XXXXXX XXXXX - beermats, covers,
X. XXXXXX XXX postcards
XXXXX XXXXX - speedswap
XXXXX XXXXXXXX - need new contacts
-- ------------------------------------------------------ --
TYRON of HITMEN
- ------------ -
XXXX XXXXXX - 4 bbs graphics
XXXXXXXXXXXX XX
XXXXX XXXXX
XXXXXXX
-- ------------------------------------------------------ --
[U-V] [U-V]
-- ------------------------------------ --
VALSARY of SAMAR/LEPSI DE
- --------------------- -
XXXXX XXXXXXXXX - NO swapping!
XXXXXXXXXX X/X
XX-575 Bolkow
XXXXXX
-- ------------------------------------ --
VIOLATOR of AFL/LEPSI DE- 4 AFL and LD wares
- --------------------- -- 4 RELAX, DOMINATION,
XXXXXX XXXXXXXX THE CREST, EMPHATIC
XXXXXXXXXXXX. X X - astronomy articles
XX XXX XXXX - old demos + mags swap
XXXXXX - 100% reply
-- --------------------------------------------- --
[W] [W]
-- ---------------------------------------------- --
WALKER of F4CG - E-mail: WKR(at)
- ---------- - ALGONET.SE
XXXXX XXXXXX - 4 swap, 100% back
XXXXXXX. XX, X XX - 4 old mags/demos swap
XXXXX XXXXXXXXX - 4 PROPAGANDA and
XXXXXX THE CREST magazines
-- -------------------------------------------------- --
WOODRAF of TIGERS
- -------------- -
XXXXXX XXXXXXXXXX - joining
XX. XXXXXXX X, XXXXXXXXX- need more contacts!
XX-XXX XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXX
-- -------------------------------------------------- --
[X-Y] [X-Y]
-- ------------------------------------ --
XENOX of ALPHAFLIGHT'70
- ------------------- -
XXXXX XXXXXXX - 4 the latest AFLK wares
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX. XX X
XXXXX XXX XXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXX
-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --
YATTAMAN of ALLIANCE- (fast) (geo) swap
- ---------------- -- (geos) coders welcome
XXXXXX XXXXXXXXX - 100% answer
XX. XXXXXXXXXXX X/XX- 4 geomakedir -
XX-XXX XXXXXX subdirectory system on
XXXXXX 1541/70/71!
-- ---------------------------------------- --
[Z] [Z]
-- ----------------------------------------- --
ZAPOTEK of AFL - E-mail: ZAPOTEK(at)
- ---------- - ONLINE.NO
X. X. XXX XXX - 100% reply
XXXX XXX
XXXXXX
-- ----------------------------------------- --
ZWARK of PROXIMA
- ------------- - - 4 swap
XXXXXXX XXXXXX - 4 joining PROXIMA
XXXXXXXXXX XX/XX - 4 old demos
XX-XXX XXXX - 100% reply
XXXXXX
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