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* WORDS OF WISDOM * <br />
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* again a wow part.... well, this time <br />
i'll talk about the injustice and some <br />
other things which are happening in the <br />
scene!... <br />
<br />
well, everybody knows that the charts <br />
are one hell of a corrupt thing but a <br />
lot of groups aren't doing anything <br />
about it!... a lot of groups still trust<br />
on the charts to be correct or take the <br />
law into their own hands and fuck up <br />
the charts even more!... <br />
a well-known fact is that most of the <br />
megaswappers are writing to every mag <br />
and vote (without thinking) just to <br />
have their addy printed in that magazine<br />
... also a lot of lamers are voting and <br />
they are surely the worst to have the <br />
knowledge of an objective vote. the so- <br />
called elite isn't bothering to vote as <br />
they don't see the point as they know <br />
that their group will be in whatever <br />
happens. a lot of those so-called elite <br />
groups don't deserve to be in the charts<br />
while other (unknown?) groups have 10000<br />
times more the right to be placed in the<br />
charts. what can you do about it? <br />
<br />
1) drop the charts as a chapter <br />
<br />
or.... <br />
make another kind of VOTESHEET.... <br />
namely... a votesheet on which you can <br />
only vote for your own country's groups/<br />
guys (girls) in the charts!.... <br />
<br />
p.e. if you live in belgium you fill in <br />
that you live in belgium and you vote <br />
p.e. crackers: pwp/legend (and not doc/ <br />
legend or crush/bonzai)... ONLY BELGIANS<br />
then!... or for crackergroups: legend, <br />
wow,tcom ..... <br />
most of the scene-guys will know what <br />
is going on in their country but not <br />
which group is the best in another <br />
country... i think this kind of vote- <br />
sheet would eventually give perhaps <br />
the same result (seen worldwide) but <br />
at least it will be HONEST and less <br />
CORRUPT. anyway, this way of voting <br />
has already been done by p.e. arrogance <br />
in his mag bild zeitung but it wasn't <br />
a replacement of the other charts but <br />
just an own opinion (probably) as his <br />
info was certainly NOT CORRECT. but <br />
at least it's a good try for a more <br />
justified chart-system. <br />
<br />
also i want to point out for those <br />
many magazines who use a VOTER (or <br />
even a votesheet) in which some groups <br />
are already enlisted. this leads to <br />
corruptive actions and it's likely that <br />
only the very best (FRIENDS?) are in. <br />
this means that a lot of other groups <br />
are left out because they're not well- <br />
known or they're not good enough. <br />
to all who do this i advise you to <br />
either ENLIST ALL p.e. crackergroups <br />
or either NONE AT ALL... this is the <br />
most fair option and it will also make <br />
the less good groups happy as they're <br />
mostly the victim of all that friends- <br />
politics. <br />
<br />
i know all this won't get through most <br />
of you (your thick brain-skulls) but <br />
i do hope you will listen to this as <br />
a lot of magazines are claiming to be <br />
objective but in reality they're not <br />
and that's really LAME. <br />
<br />
* well, as a result of a lot of lame <br />
things happening in the scene i want <br />
to correct some things which weren't <br />
all the fair.... <br />
let's start with WILDCAT/ICS.... <br />
this guy is said to be a recracker, <br />
a ripper,.... but is he really a <br />
recracker?... some of us know that <br />
when you've got an enemy the fight is <br />
not always fair and clean. this means <br />
that it's likely that an eneny of <br />
wildcat has tried to fool the world by <br />
recracking (in the name of wildcat) some<br />
games. a lot of guys also believed with-<br />
out checking it first... the explanation<br />
of gabriel/the force.... a lot of guys <br />
joined the FAW .... but now wildcat <br />
has shown one thing that he's able to <br />
crack too as the first releases of ICS <br />
were certainly not RECRACKS (even <br />
gabriel has to admit this!)... ofcourse <br />
it's possible that wildcat did some <br />
nasty things p.e. by claiming it was <br />
him who made the iffl-enforcer...etc... <br />
but is a guy always judged by 1 action. <br />
everybody makes mistakes and i guess <br />
it's not right to make such a fuss <br />
about such things. most of us are <br />
adult persons and adults are meant to <br />
be talking about problems. the reason <br />
for starting this (faw) should be be- <br />
cause wildcat should have said something<br />
about the isrealian section of the force<br />
... if this is right then ofcourse it's <br />
not a fair thing to do this and then <br />
wildcat has to be punished but this is <br />
something between him and the force <br />
members. not between the world and <br />
wildcat. if it's like that, that wildcat<br />
still thinks it's world war ii then <br />
it's better to put him in an insanity <br />
home.... but is it like this?... <br />
and why aren't WE (outsiders) our own <br />
business... this stuff makes the scene <br />
go down and becoming a mix of wars and <br />
troubles... why can't we live in peace? <br />
for all (most) of us this is a hobby <br />
(a big one or a small one) and NOBODY <br />
likes wars... so CUT THE CRAP and <br />
be FRIENDS. <br />
<br />
this also is a fact with antichrist. <br />
a lot of guys are still making a fuss <br />
about it that he could be OMG .... <br />
but who are we to tell this or even <br />
to stick our noses into this... why <br />
can't he be 2 guys?... is it that bad? <br />
a lot of other dudez want to be in 2 <br />
groups... <br />
ofcourse this is not the main reason <br />
for all this 'HATRED' towards antichrist<br />
... a lot of guys who made some games <br />
haven't been getting money for their <br />
games as omg (antichrist?) made sure <br />
that g*p had the 1st release... this <br />
meant also that the game-makers wouldn't<br />
be getting any money. but i've heard <br />
that chromance did get some money for <br />
their game ... ofcourse not everyone <br />
was so lucky and again this is something<br />
between the game-maker and omg... <br />
it's ofcourse not right what omg did <br />
as the work of months go down the drain <br />
just because omg decided to give g*p <br />
a 1st one. but perhaps this story has <br />
2 sides?... perhaps not?... but why <br />
are a lot of dudez playing the judges <br />
and convicting antichrist for everything<br />
... this guy doesn't care a shit anyway.<br />
.. but perhaps he'd listen to sense and <br />
listen to you when you'd approach him <br />
by acting like an adult. <br />
it's not by making a fake propaganda <br />
or writing notes in the name of anti- <br />
christ that you'll make antichrist go <br />
thinking about his acts. as action <br />
creates reaction... this old law was <br />
in the past active and will be active <br />
in the future but by doing all this <br />
a lot of dudez create a warry scene <br />
and if this shit keeps on NOBODY will <br />
be spared... <br />
* well, after reading some cool mags <br />
i decided to give my opinion about <br />
their chapters/texts!... <br />
<br />
in brutal recall #007 there was an <br />
anonymous letter of a guy who probably <br />
disliked the u.s. scene a bit!... <br />
well, i've gotta say he was correct <br />
at some points but not at everything. <br />
modeming is a world apart!... i have <br />
always seen it as a final point. or <br />
as a beginning... i know some modem- <br />
traders and they've given me all the <br />
same toughts... modemtrading is the <br />
swapping of the elite, but a lot of <br />
those so-called elite is really <br />
arrogant and think they're simply <br />
the best ("a tina turner-complex!"). <br />
anyhow, it's their good right but like <br />
the guy in br.recall i also think that <br />
it's quite UNFAIR to treat the groups <br />
who aren't represented on the boards <br />
as dirt!... to proof this i'll give <br />
an example. a lot of elite groups have <br />
invented a fake label under which they <br />
crack BAD (?) games from game on/dd/ <br />
twice effect/.... also the u.s. dudez <br />
have those budget labels under which <br />
they import stuff from euro budget <br />
labels!... WHY? i don't see the point <br />
anymore as they make fun out of these <br />
labels but they still crack it. if they <br />
don't like the games then let them get <br />
their hands off. i read in shock that <br />
those discgames can't be counted as <br />
1st releases and perhaps they're right <br />
but since recently that was the only <br />
shit which groups could crack. nowa- <br />
days the games are improving again. <br />
(t2,turbo charge,...) but only a few <br />
can have the 1st ones and ofcourse <br />
legend is one of the few. but also this <br />
group has a budget label. altough they <br />
dislike german discgames. anywhow, it's <br />
stupid and a lot of wannabee elite <br />
groups invent such a label just to <br />
be part of the clan. this is just <br />
like the SHORT-INTRO-DISCUSSION. it <br />
makes the scene become lamer every <br />
day. the 64 scene is not going down <br />
because of too less games but of too <br />
much assholes and also those so-called <br />
elite dudez are part of this. a lot of <br />
modemtraders have an attitude problem <br />
and it's a closed world. i don't say <br />
that there aren't any good guys (girls) <br />
anymore but if you see what they do <br />
about the sorceress/bod/aycee-affaire. <br />
why do they make a fuss about that? <br />
is that the only thing they do?... <br />
still, as an outstander i won't judge <br />
the modem-scene too hard but i only <br />
want to show that ALSO americans are <br />
normal dudez but who have built up a <br />
reputation as modemtraders. <br />
to come back at those 1st releases i <br />
want to show out that a lot of euro <br />
groups crack from time to time faster <br />
then those elite groups, but because <br />
of no reliable modemtraders they fail <br />
to put their crack on the boards and <br />
even when they put it on a minor board <br />
it's not counted as a 1st release as <br />
it has to put on certain major boards. <br />
this was a problem with trc+tbi with <br />
some of their games and because of <br />
that VERDICT had a 1st one. this also <br />
happened with WOW as we had the 1st <br />
release of superkid in space... we <br />
cracked this game in april 1991... <br />
we didn't put it on the boards because <br />
of the reason given on the previous <br />
page and we also didn't know that it <br />
was a 1st one but then we saw (3 months <br />
later)... 20th june that dom put it <br />
on the boards as 1st release... what <br />
do you think we did?... we laughed <br />
about it as we tought that it was a <br />
joke but it wasn't... still, we don't <br />
care as it was only a budget and we <br />
are under-appreciated like so many <br />
groups. this was partly our problems <br />
but again this happened as we had the <br />
1st one of EURO BOSS aswell as SNOOKER <br />
MANAGER and THE MATCH... 3 budgets <br />
again!... well, we don't care anymore <br />
as we see that our work is appreciated <br />
we are no top 10 group and we admit <br />
this fair and square but the only thing <br />
we want is justice. you might think <br />
i'm talking to promote wow now but <br />
as you could see we're not the only <br />
group which is bad treatened p.e. <br />
also BABYGANG,DUNEX,...etc... are <br />
not treatened at its fullness!... <br />
the groups mentioned above are working <br />
their butts off to get themselves in <br />
the charts but they get almost no <br />
chances. why not? because the lame <br />
voters are to stupid and to dumb to <br />
make up an own opinion. <br />
everybody knows that the charts are <br />
completed either by useless swappers <br />
(of which i'm one!) or by useless <br />
magazine-editors (= prof.cheaters,he <br />
matt!)... but i won't kid around at this<br />
subject as nowadays the coders,gfx- <br />
artists,...etc.. certainly the beginning<br />
ones are looking at the charts to see <br />
how their work is appreciated, but <br />
they are de-motivated by the fact that <br />
always the same dudez are in those <br />
charts... why can't we change the system<br />
?... <br />
i've already given you a way to make the<br />
charts much better by the COUNTRY-VOTE- <br />
SHEET... it's an idea!... <br />
well, enough mind-breaking about this <br />
subject so let's come to a conclusion. <br />
this little discussion (1 way) began <br />
with the u.s. scene and i hope a lot <br />
of those arrogant,self-centred pigs will<br />
change a bit of their characteristics <br />
in order to bring new live to the 64 <br />
scene. a lot of freaks are doubting <br />
about the suriving of the 64 and i <br />
think we don't have to think about <br />
it and live the day how it comes. <br />
produce, be active and crack,code, <br />
make gfx or music or just swap... <br />
HAVE FUN. fun... this is a word that <br />
those elite dudez don't know anymore. <br />
they always want to be the best and <br />
the fastest. ofcourse everybody wants <br />
to be number one for some time, but <br />
on the top is a lonely thing. you <br />
loose friends because you don't take <br />
enough time for them and the only thing <br />
you do is loosing grip of REAL LIFE. <br />
like many guys in this scene i take <br />
friendship as THE most important thing <br />
in life aswell as the scene. products <br />
are secondary. all who want to proof <br />
me the reverse can react on anything <br />
which was printed here. i'm responsible.<br />
by the way, shock and mamba ARE pointed <br />
to much to the elite and even mamba <br />
goes a bit contradictional namely... <br />
their news,... are mostly about elite <br />
dudez/groups but on the other hand they <br />
put in addresses of LAME! dudes or <br />
just some asslicking friends as the <br />
mamba editors can choose the addresses <br />
they want to print... either you print <br />
them all or you print none. dis- <br />
crimination sucks!... certainly when <br />
you're a mag.editor! <br />
mamba is certainly not number one <br />
anymore!... corruption isn't also and <br />
shock is certainly the most stylish <br />
one but the text-amount is below sea- <br />
level and it's US-POINTED, but that <br />
was the intention of the magazine... <br />
i guess. <br />
<br />
* i also hope that also the newcomers <br />
aswell as the old VETERANS will work <br />
together as all those ELITE CRAPHEADS <br />
think they're something... ofcourse <br />
some guys/groups (5*) can say they've <br />
made it and they can boast about it, <br />
but it are mostly those who never boast!<br />
ofcourse you have some exceptions... <br />
(he goldfish... just kidding stijn) <br />
but i can really laugh and at the same <br />
time make me mad about all those WANNABE<br />
elite... they're so stupid and do every-<br />
thing for an elite group but don't want <br />
to support a new guy or new group!... <br />
LAME!... we in the wow have surely done <br />
some stupid things concerning recruting <br />
members as we've had so much skilled <br />
guys but also a lot of un-skilled guys! <br />
but we've always given them a change to <br />
become something!... this is what it <br />
is all about!... EVERY wow member whose <br />
been a while in the wow will be able to <br />
tell you that we are a close group!... <br />
we want to become something and at the <br />
meantime we don't want to lose our <br />
identity!... that's hard but we're <br />
WARRIORS in a WASTELAND... <br />
so be it... i'm off...... <br />
<br />
<br />
press FIRE <br />
<br />
<br />
EINSTEIN: CHIEF-EDITOR 2<br />
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