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		<title>Ymgve at 16:39, 22 June 2007</title>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
            TALK-SHOW&lt;br /&gt;
           -----------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
   hello all our readers! welcome&lt;br /&gt;
to a NEW and SPECIAL chapter in&lt;br /&gt;
your favourite magazine.i'm glad&lt;br /&gt;
to say that this is a totaly new&lt;br /&gt;
idea.by the way i must also say&lt;br /&gt;
that i have never seen a chapter&lt;br /&gt;
like this in any magazine.so i ho-&lt;br /&gt;
pe nobody attacks once more this&lt;br /&gt;
magazine.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
   now,you may ask me what's this&lt;br /&gt;
chapter's contentment? as you see&lt;br /&gt;
from the title,it is a talk-show,i&lt;br /&gt;
mean it is a conversation,a chat.&lt;br /&gt;
yes,in turkiye in tv channels it's&lt;br /&gt;
a fashion to have some programmes&lt;br /&gt;
called talk-shows.i'm sure that&lt;br /&gt;
the television's in your country&lt;br /&gt;
do the same.in these shows the aim&lt;br /&gt;
is nearly same.a very talkative&lt;br /&gt;
showmen present the show,he welco-&lt;br /&gt;
mes some famous persons and ask&lt;br /&gt;
them some questions about general&lt;br /&gt;
things,their life,new projects etc&lt;br /&gt;
the main AIM of these shows are to&lt;br /&gt;
make the watchers funny,happy and&lt;br /&gt;
also GIVE THEM A NEW POINT OF VIEW&lt;br /&gt;
about the subjects.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
   after some thoughts while axl&lt;br /&gt;
was visiting us we agreed to make&lt;br /&gt;
a talkshow like this.you may say&lt;br /&gt;
that although it's name is talk-&lt;br /&gt;
show we are making a write-show.&lt;br /&gt;
indeed we made a talk-show.how? we&lt;br /&gt;
(falcon,axl,beetlejuice) meet at&lt;br /&gt;
my place and put an empty audio-&lt;br /&gt;
cassette in the tape.then we star-&lt;br /&gt;
ted to make the show and we recor-&lt;br /&gt;
ded our chat to the cassette.then&lt;br /&gt;
after it has finished we rewinded&lt;br /&gt;
it to the back and started to wri-&lt;br /&gt;
te down what we talked.and in the&lt;br /&gt;
coming lines you will read what we&lt;br /&gt;
have done.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
   the REAL important thing accor-&lt;br /&gt;
ding to me is that this record is&lt;br /&gt;
the true-words we have said from&lt;br /&gt;
our heart and without any prepara-&lt;br /&gt;
tion.and i think this gives a kind&lt;br /&gt;
of speciality to this chapter.also&lt;br /&gt;
i don't want to start without ma-&lt;br /&gt;
king one point clearer.every talk-&lt;br /&gt;
show has a kind of comedian in it&lt;br /&gt;
like having a guest.we also tried&lt;br /&gt;
to have a speciality like that to.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
   last before starting i want to&lt;br /&gt;
say that i will be very happy if&lt;br /&gt;
you also do the similar records in&lt;br /&gt;
every kind of subject and send the&lt;br /&gt;
talkshow of yourself to us.to tell&lt;br /&gt;
the truth i don't think that some-&lt;br /&gt;
one will do it.but if you do i'll&lt;br /&gt;
be really glad.ok,now let's intro-&lt;br /&gt;
duce you who did what and  then&lt;br /&gt;
start the show.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 AXL:he directed this show.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 FALCON:i was the guest for this&lt;br /&gt;
        time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 BEETLEJUICE:guess what he made!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
   ok,the real start has come.just&lt;br /&gt;
read and enjoy the talkshow  of&lt;br /&gt;
this month.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  a:hello falcon and beetlejuice&lt;br /&gt;
welcome to this show.how did you&lt;br /&gt;
started with the scene?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  f:many years ago,when i was a&lt;br /&gt;
small sweet child...heh,back  to&lt;br /&gt;
reality.more or less it was  in&lt;br /&gt;
1988,i started with packing intros&lt;br /&gt;
in front of the games by  using&lt;br /&gt;
intro-makers.also i was working in&lt;br /&gt;
a computer shop from the day i had&lt;br /&gt;
bought my c64.then i thought to&lt;br /&gt;
write some letters to some other&lt;br /&gt;
guys.i also had some friends who&lt;br /&gt;
were doing this.i don't know that&lt;br /&gt;
if we are still friends now...one&lt;br /&gt;
day when i was sitting in the shop&lt;br /&gt;
a guy entered the shop.he said he&lt;br /&gt;
was the ventor of the joker crew.&lt;br /&gt;
at that time tjc was the best of&lt;br /&gt;
turkiye.i really was happy and i&lt;br /&gt;
asked some intro-makers and some&lt;br /&gt;
other stuff from him and he became&lt;br /&gt;
the first contact of me.and after&lt;br /&gt;
this i entered the scene.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  a:well,can you remember how we&lt;br /&gt;
meet first?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  f:i couldn't remember the worst&lt;br /&gt;
moment of my life so cleary.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  bj:i remember it now how i int-&lt;br /&gt;
roduced with falcon.i advice you&lt;br /&gt;
not to be friend with him...heh!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  f:hey,what i have done to you?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  b:only nothing!50 whips,several&lt;br /&gt;
punches,hunger,thirst...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  f:eh,is it so easy to be an acy&lt;br /&gt;
member?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  a:hey palz!i started the words&lt;br /&gt;
but you are interrupting me...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  bj:i don't care,it's nothing to&lt;br /&gt;
me.now i'll talk about hoe we meet&lt;br /&gt;
one day,to stake out the chip(the&lt;br /&gt;
shop that falcon works) i entered&lt;br /&gt;
the shop.my aim was to sell an old&lt;br /&gt;
game called 'after the war' to the&lt;br /&gt;
chip.i think it was 1989.at that&lt;br /&gt;
moment falcon also entered there&lt;br /&gt;
and he insulted me by saying me&lt;br /&gt;
'lame'.then we didn't see each ot-&lt;br /&gt;
her for a long time.then we meet&lt;br /&gt;
again.at that time falcon was a&lt;br /&gt;
member of accuracy.we started to&lt;br /&gt;
talk.sometime later he said to me&lt;br /&gt;
he was too alone in ankara and as-&lt;br /&gt;
ked me to join.of'course i accep-&lt;br /&gt;
ted.then golem also joined as a&lt;br /&gt;
third c64'en in ankara.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  f:how did we meet with you,axl?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  a:i went to buy some new games&lt;br /&gt;
to chip.then our friendship became&lt;br /&gt;
closer.i all the time wanted some&lt;br /&gt;
intro-makers from you but you do&lt;br /&gt;
not give me any.then after  some&lt;br /&gt;
days you said me that 'if you buy&lt;br /&gt;
a diskdriver,i'll give you my int-&lt;br /&gt;
romakers.i bought my drive in the&lt;br /&gt;
morning of the next day and came&lt;br /&gt;
to you.then our friendship really&lt;br /&gt;
increased and we came to the posi-&lt;br /&gt;
tion of today.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  f:now i wonder if had a cold re-&lt;br /&gt;
ception to you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  a:now,let's change the subject.&lt;br /&gt;
what's your opinion about the cur-&lt;br /&gt;
rent scene falcon?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  f:i still love the scene so i'm&lt;br /&gt;
still continue my activities.al-&lt;br /&gt;
though lots of surroundings laug-&lt;br /&gt;
hed at me when they saw me working&lt;br /&gt;
in front of my c64.all of them ask&lt;br /&gt;
if i'm still using it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  a:really true statement.i also&lt;br /&gt;
can't understand why they make fun&lt;br /&gt;
with the users of c64.for example,&lt;br /&gt;
we enter a shop and then a talking&lt;br /&gt;
about coding etc. starts immediat-&lt;br /&gt;
ly.i say that we are producing a&lt;br /&gt;
mag and everybody asks me if it is&lt;br /&gt;
on 64 or on amiga.when i say 64,&lt;br /&gt;
generally i get an answer like'bah&lt;br /&gt;
...i thought....'&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  bj:you're right but this scene&lt;br /&gt;
will continue if there's still new&lt;br /&gt;
coming games.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  f:although the scene dies,i do&lt;br /&gt;
not believe that friendship will&lt;br /&gt;
die.if i leave the scene one day,&lt;br /&gt;
i want to continue as letter fri-&lt;br /&gt;
ends with most of my contacts.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  a:you said friendship and i re-&lt;br /&gt;
membered something.in the past,we&lt;br /&gt;
were good friends with some guys&lt;br /&gt;
in ankara.but then these people&lt;br /&gt;
got a generosity-complex by time&lt;br /&gt;
and changed very much.to tell the&lt;br /&gt;
truth once a time i was really&lt;br /&gt;
proud of for some of these guys&lt;br /&gt;
productions.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  bj:...because we are the members&lt;br /&gt;
of the same nation,isn't it true?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  a:of'course you're right.every-&lt;br /&gt;
body is in need of each other.but&lt;br /&gt;
in such a position,i don't under-&lt;br /&gt;
stand this cold-war.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  f:i also...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  a:stop!but i want to say that a&lt;br /&gt;
real friend can't end a friendship&lt;br /&gt;
with such small things.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  b:you're right.if the important&lt;br /&gt;
point is the development,i don't&lt;br /&gt;
think that this's the right way.by&lt;br /&gt;
the way i want to say that there's&lt;br /&gt;
no relationship with this subject&lt;br /&gt;
and my shoe-number.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  f:heh,heh!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  a:who're the best friends of you&lt;br /&gt;
let me ask.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  f:if we look to the subject from&lt;br /&gt;
friendship i really love all my&lt;br /&gt;
swap-partners and my group mates,&lt;br /&gt;
also THE BOSS.ok,it's just a joke!&lt;br /&gt;
but if you ask me to show an ideal&lt;br /&gt;
person then i'll show you derby-&lt;br /&gt;
shire ram.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  a:why?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  f:he's one of the oldest guys&lt;br /&gt;
but he's a very amiable,friendly&lt;br /&gt;
and really mature.another point&lt;br /&gt;
now.i was also a fan of aslive and&lt;br /&gt;
baze.i still can't understand how&lt;br /&gt;
he managed to write such long let-&lt;br /&gt;
ters to all of his contacts.today&lt;br /&gt;
i really admire tbb,airwolf and&lt;br /&gt;
incubus.especially incubus is  a&lt;br /&gt;
very active swapper of today.he&lt;br /&gt;
all the time writes long personals&lt;br /&gt;
send lots of photos with quality-&lt;br /&gt;
stuff.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  b:before my start i wanna thank&lt;br /&gt;
to falcon for accepting me to the&lt;br /&gt;
group,golem for his closeness and&lt;br /&gt;
axl for being nothing.ah,your sym-&lt;br /&gt;
pathy is enough axl.pardon me,this&lt;br /&gt;
was a big lie!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  a:enough beetejuice!don't talk&lt;br /&gt;
more.by the way i have heard that&lt;br /&gt;
your home is on fire....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  b:heh!ok,falcon.let's forget axl&lt;br /&gt;
and talk together.which magazine&lt;br /&gt;
do you like much nowadays?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  f:today we have several magazi-&lt;br /&gt;
nes that i can't count now.of'co-&lt;br /&gt;
urse it's too hard too read all&lt;br /&gt;
of them.but i want to say that i&lt;br /&gt;
don't like anti-mags.because their&lt;br /&gt;
only aim is to attack.there're so-&lt;br /&gt;
me funny attack-jokes but i can't&lt;br /&gt;
say that they are a magazine.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  a:well,what's your opinion about&lt;br /&gt;
internal?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  f:it's one of the oldest magazi-&lt;br /&gt;
ne.i have the most of this mags'&lt;br /&gt;
issues.also i have the issues when&lt;br /&gt;
internal was a single-filed mag.i&lt;br /&gt;
keep them because it was the first&lt;br /&gt;
magazine that we entered the chart&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  a:what's your opinion about the&lt;br /&gt;
problem caused by our review and&lt;br /&gt;
internal? my opinion is that the&lt;br /&gt;
boss' review must be taken as a&lt;br /&gt;
criticism.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  f:i totally agree with you.this&lt;br /&gt;
must be taken as only a critic not&lt;br /&gt;
an attack.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  bj:some guys in the scene are&lt;br /&gt;
attacking each other with stupid&lt;br /&gt;
reasons commenting that you ripped&lt;br /&gt;
this from us etc.well we7re trying&lt;br /&gt;
to do our best and the reactions&lt;br /&gt;
we got direct us.there's no reason&lt;br /&gt;
not to do the things that our rea-&lt;br /&gt;
ders ask.i don't understand the&lt;br /&gt;
wars because of such reasons.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  a:now let's return to normal li-&lt;br /&gt;
fe and talk about the future.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  bj:more than one&lt;br /&gt;
     more than two&lt;br /&gt;
     more than threee&lt;br /&gt;
     more thaaaan foouuur&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  a:stop it!don't lose yourself!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  bj:mooorreee thaaan fiiveee&lt;br /&gt;
     mooooorrreeee thaaann siiixxx&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  a:enough!enough!enoouuggh!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  f:i'll finish university next&lt;br /&gt;
year and i'll be an electronical&lt;br /&gt;
engeneer.but i don't know what'll&lt;br /&gt;
i do after that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  a:and you trouble beetle!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  bj:when i grove,i'll be a truck&lt;br /&gt;
driver.as you know sometimes elvis&lt;br /&gt;
was a truck driver too.to talk the&lt;br /&gt;
reality if i interested in art,i&lt;br /&gt;
must do it for money.but if it do-&lt;br /&gt;
esn't happen,i'll interested in&lt;br /&gt;
electronics.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  a:i think that we now stop this&lt;br /&gt;
conversation as the cassette is&lt;br /&gt;
coming too its end.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  f:ok,i hope that all will like&lt;br /&gt;
it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  bj:when will be the next one? i&lt;br /&gt;
couldn't interrupt it too much,heh&lt;br /&gt;
he!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
   yes palz!the end of this talk-&lt;br /&gt;
show has came to its end.i hope&lt;br /&gt;
that we will also be able to pre-&lt;br /&gt;
sent this chapters in the coming&lt;br /&gt;
issues too.i thibk it is nice.if&lt;br /&gt;
you want to make a show like that&lt;br /&gt;
but can't find the energy in your&lt;br /&gt;
body then what about sending us&lt;br /&gt;
your recordings after the confe-&lt;br /&gt;
rances in modem lines?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
   i hope that you liked this part&lt;br /&gt;
i edited this part but the idea&lt;br /&gt;
was all of us,axl,bj and me.we'll&lt;br /&gt;
be very happy if you agree that it&lt;br /&gt;
was also nice.now please return to&lt;br /&gt;
the menu and select another chap-&lt;br /&gt;
ter from our long menu.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                   signed:falcon&lt;br /&gt;
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