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		<title>Ymgve at 19:34, 18 June 2007</title>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
              THE OFFICIAL&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
        Top  CRACKER CHARTS  Top&lt;br /&gt;
________---__CRACKER CHARTS__---________&lt;br /&gt;
        1 0                  1 0&lt;br /&gt;
              OCTOBER 1994&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                    AVANTGARDE&lt;br /&gt;
         1..........AVANTGARDE&lt;br /&gt;
         2................F4CG&lt;br /&gt;
         3.........SUCCESS+TRC&lt;br /&gt;
         4........ALPHA FLIGHT&lt;br /&gt;
         5...........CHROMANCE&lt;br /&gt;
         6.....GENESIS*PROJECT&lt;br /&gt;
         7..............TALENT&lt;br /&gt;
         8.(DEAD)...TRSI+DYTEC&lt;br /&gt;
         9..............EXCESS&lt;br /&gt;
        10..............LEGEND&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
              THE OFFICIAL&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
        Top   BOARD CHARTS   Top&lt;br /&gt;
________---___BOARD CHARTS___---________&lt;br /&gt;
        1 0                  1 0&lt;br /&gt;
              OCTOBER 1994&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
               THE DUNGEON&lt;br /&gt;
   1...........THE DUNGEON (SCS+TRC)&lt;br /&gt;
   2.............THE FORUM (AVANTGARDE)&lt;br /&gt;
   3...........DOWN BY LAW (TALENT)&lt;br /&gt;
   4.......THE EVIL ISLAND (AFL'70)&lt;br /&gt;
   5..HOLIDAY INN CAMBODIA (INDEPENDENT)&lt;br /&gt;
   6....THE SHAOLIN TEMPLE (INDEPENDENT)&lt;br /&gt;
   7......EDGE OF MIDNIGHT (CHROMANCE)&lt;br /&gt;
   8.......TUNNEL OF WARES (F4CG)&lt;br /&gt;
   9.......WARE'S AQUARIUM (FAIRLIGHT)&lt;br /&gt;
  10........CHAOTIC FACTOR (EXCESS)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
              THE OFFICIAL&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
       Top MOST LIKED CHARTS Top&lt;br /&gt;
_______---_MOST LIKED CHARTS_---________&lt;br /&gt;
       1 0                   1 0&lt;br /&gt;
              OCTOBER 1994&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
          SOLAR&lt;br /&gt;
      1   SOLAR..........[F4CG]&lt;br /&gt;
      2   DEFF...........[AVANTGARDE]&lt;br /&gt;
      3   PUDWERX........[AVANTGARDE]&lt;br /&gt;
      4   NEWSCOPY.......[G*P]&lt;br /&gt;
      5   CBA............[TRC+SCS]&lt;br /&gt;
      6   ACTION JACKSON.[TRC+SCS]&lt;br /&gt;
      7   NIGHTSHADE.....[TRC+SCS]&lt;br /&gt;
      8   MR.WAX  .......[CHROMANCE]&lt;br /&gt;
      9   WALKER.........[G*P]&lt;br /&gt;
     10   MAJA...........[F4CG]&lt;br /&gt;
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              THE OFFICIAL&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
       Top  IMPORTING GROUP  Top&lt;br /&gt;
_______---__IMPORTING GROUP__---________&lt;br /&gt;
       1 0                   1 0&lt;br /&gt;
              OCTOBER 1994&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                 AVANTGARDE&lt;br /&gt;
             1...AVANTGARDE&lt;br /&gt;
             2.......EMPIRE&lt;br /&gt;
             3......DEMONIX&lt;br /&gt;
             4......TRC+SCS&lt;br /&gt;
             5.ARRISTOCRACY&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                   **&lt;br /&gt;
                   \/&lt;br /&gt;
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________________________________________&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
              THE OFFICIAL&lt;br /&gt;
       Top  OVERALL COMMENT  Top&lt;br /&gt;
       ---  OVERALL COMMENT  ---&lt;br /&gt;
       1 0    OCTOBER 1994   1 0&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
________________________________________&lt;br /&gt;
Charts have in my eyes, almost always&lt;br /&gt;
been the part of a magazine I've chosen&lt;br /&gt;
just to quickly glance through. Only a&lt;br /&gt;
few months back, I'd get frustrated and&lt;br /&gt;
annoyed due to people ignorance voting.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
People learn. People learn, that they&lt;br /&gt;
cannot vote for groups that have not&lt;br /&gt;
accomplished anything decent the past&lt;br /&gt;
million years. People learn, though it&lt;br /&gt;
takes time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
________________________________________&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
C&lt;br /&gt;
Cracker Charts&lt;br /&gt;
________________________________________&lt;br /&gt;
Never before have I seen so accurate&lt;br /&gt;
crackingcharts. I'm both proud and happy&lt;br /&gt;
about seeing us reflect the scene in&lt;br /&gt;
such a proper way.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
AVANTGARDE has grabbed a firm grip&lt;br /&gt;
around the market, and the market has&lt;br /&gt;
not been slow in apprehending whatever&lt;br /&gt;
that may have concluded. It is also&lt;br /&gt;
much worth talking about, realizing an&lt;br /&gt;
old flame has managed to climb the&lt;br /&gt;
delicate stairway of digital crime.&lt;br /&gt;
F4CG has been a group that has remained&lt;br /&gt;
fairly silent the past 2 years, but with&lt;br /&gt;
an intense burst of creativity, F4CG&lt;br /&gt;
is aiming at the very top.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
________________________________________&lt;br /&gt;
I dislike saying it, but I'm glad people&lt;br /&gt;
do not vote for LEGEND in the top-3,&lt;br /&gt;
a group depending on qualities they had&lt;br /&gt;
over 3 years ago. Judging from the votes&lt;br /&gt;
for this issue, LEGEND might very well&lt;br /&gt;
be thrown out from the top-1O next time.&lt;br /&gt;
Dancing on the edge, and indeed they do.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The top-3 at this time is pretty obvious&lt;br /&gt;
but ALPHA FLIGHT are itching the at the&lt;br /&gt;
spots with their hands, not only capable&lt;br /&gt;
of entering, but in fact almost doing&lt;br /&gt;
so.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It is my firm belief that compe-&lt;br /&gt;
tition will increase from this very day.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
________________________________________&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
C&lt;br /&gt;
Cracker Charts&lt;br /&gt;
________________________________________&lt;br /&gt;
We are dealing with a delicate situation&lt;br /&gt;
where groups at the top are very strong.&lt;br /&gt;
There is a wide circuit of groups that&lt;br /&gt;
can get games quickly, and with that&lt;br /&gt;
in mind, there are potential struggles&lt;br /&gt;
at the top, where we as an observing&lt;br /&gt;
market only can enjoy an expansion&lt;br /&gt;
qualitywise. Indeed, this is a new era&lt;br /&gt;
in the Commodore 64-market. New Soft-&lt;br /&gt;
ware companies have popped up, new&lt;br /&gt;
talents and new wills. The Commodore&lt;br /&gt;
64 is not on decline. No, the Commodore&lt;br /&gt;
64 is an 8-bit miracle. And it will&lt;br /&gt;
never fade.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
________________________________________&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B&lt;br /&gt;
Board Charts&lt;br /&gt;
________________________________________&lt;br /&gt;
Boardwise, a lot has happened as well,&lt;br /&gt;
and more will indeed happen. THE DUNGEON&lt;br /&gt;
is without doubt the ultimate Number One&lt;br /&gt;
seen from the observers eyes. TD had a&lt;br /&gt;
rather rough start, but as G*P, and now&lt;br /&gt;
TRC+SCS did their job in attracting&lt;br /&gt;
people, the board eventually picked up.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It is sad with THE FORUM having gone&lt;br /&gt;
down, as of just a few days ago, and&lt;br /&gt;
with that, a lot of the boardculture&lt;br /&gt;
seems to have stagnated. Many people&lt;br /&gt;
talk of a new breed of boards, and I&lt;br /&gt;
for one know, there will be new and&lt;br /&gt;
old systems up for the public within&lt;br /&gt;
the not too far distant.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
THE SHAOLIN TEMPLE did leave a hole as&lt;br /&gt;
it was taken down, but it will be back&lt;br /&gt;
up again, do not fear.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It is interesting, that for the first&lt;br /&gt;
time we have a European board up on our&lt;br /&gt;
charts. Normally, I would not even con-&lt;br /&gt;
sider it, but as WARE'S AQUARIUM has&lt;br /&gt;
gained such marevellous popularity, not&lt;br /&gt;
due to being a FAIRLIGHT-board, but&lt;br /&gt;
being a splendid system, in all, it&lt;br /&gt;
much deserves the place it has reached.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
TUNNEL OF WARES is dropping quickly&lt;br /&gt;
since it changed owner and number. Much&lt;br /&gt;
also speaks for DOWN BY LAW dropping the&lt;br /&gt;
next few weeks. Time will, however, tell&lt;br /&gt;
wonderful tales to us.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&lt;br /&gt;
Importing Charts&lt;br /&gt;
________________________________________&lt;br /&gt;
The American market is the pure laugh&lt;br /&gt;
of itself. There are plenty of talents&lt;br /&gt;
but noone is really accomplishing any-&lt;br /&gt;
thing worth notifying, apart from,&lt;br /&gt;
PUDWERX/AVANTGARDE maybe. The Europeans&lt;br /&gt;
may very well grab a firm grip around&lt;br /&gt;
this chart as well. EMPIRE have put out&lt;br /&gt;
some fixes the past few weeks, but it&lt;br /&gt;
is discussable whether it is just a one-&lt;br /&gt;
man show, being MERCENAIRY responisble&lt;br /&gt;
for everything, now that the others are&lt;br /&gt;
too lazy to do anything.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Funny, I still get letters from lots of&lt;br /&gt;
Americans who want games from us. The&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
American scene has been so ignorant in&lt;br /&gt;
the distribution, they choked their own&lt;br /&gt;
market. I don't see why, when there are&lt;br /&gt;
still people crying for software.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
________________________________________&lt;br /&gt;
V        Y&lt;br /&gt;
Voting - Your voice through us&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It is arguable whether it is a joy&lt;br /&gt;
voting for groups. However, it is evi-&lt;br /&gt;
dent doing so, knowing YOU can actually&lt;br /&gt;
affect the scene, the market and the&lt;br /&gt;
opinions.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
People are sloppy these days. People are&lt;br /&gt;
lazy and all to all very childish. They&lt;br /&gt;
do not care much about the subculture&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
we live in, and by doing so, not pro-&lt;br /&gt;
viding ANYTHING to this scene. From&lt;br /&gt;
issue 15 we'll be having votesheets&lt;br /&gt;
spread around the globe, and we still&lt;br /&gt;
urge everybody to vote at the boards.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Your voice through us can be heard.&lt;br /&gt;
So why don't you scream?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Newscopy/Genesis*Project&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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