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<p><b>New page</b></p><div>SCENE VERSUS GIRLS<br />
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Well I know it is a bit of The Mistress talks now in<br />
Skyhigh, but lately there have been a lot of discus-<br />
sions about the few girls this scene still has.<br />
Of course, it is a story told many times but lately I<br />
read an article, I thought it was in mendip or some-<br />
thing like it, called "girls vs. scene". It seems that<br />
some people in this scene think that it is the lack of<br />
interest from the female side of this world that this<br />
scene does not have many girls. Is it girls versus<br />
scene or really the scene versus girls?<br />
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As you know there have been few girls in the scene,<br />
names from the past sound like: BBR,BBL,BBD and TBB<br />
the all-female group The Beautiful Blondes. TBB was<br />
of course also known as a coder in various legenda-<br />
ry groups in the late eighties before joining TMB soft<br />
ware in 1991 and passing away at nineteen in march<br />
1993.<br />
Other names I can give you is Mario, famous graphici-<br />
an SMD (the female part who quit), Australian Deb/<br />
Battery, Andrea of Varsity who quit after the tragic<br />
accident en route to the TCC'93 where she lost con-<br />
trol of the car, causing an accident with two casual-<br />
ties,among them her boyfriend Charlie/Varsity.<br />
<br />
Nowadays I count fewer girls than ever, Mav quit the<br />
scene, Rambo came out to be a boy,it has been a long<br />
time since I have seen Black Widow's "Moonlight" and<br />
Kayleigh/Fatum also quit the scene some months be-<br />
fore her brother Nephelim did.<br />
Still Black Widow, Starlight and yours truly are the<br />
only known girls left in the scene, so isn't it time to<br />
see what is going on? Oops, I forgot Angel!<br />
<br />
Female interest in computers is rising everywhere,<br />
especially on the net. Problem seems to be that girls<br />
and women do not have the determination to start co<br />
ding for long hours and get advanced, I can remember<br />
no name of any coder on any system after TBB and<br />
BBR, who both died. BBR died of cancer in the summer<br />
of 1993.<br />
But in PC females are growing in number, &amp; it appears<br />
this came out on the Party iv where the female mark<br />
almost reached the 1% mark according to Nastiness,<br />
Inc. Who was there,and this party was mainly pc.<br />
<br />
But believe me, it's not a matter of no new girls com-<br />
ming into the scene, it is a matter of new people com<br />
ing into this scene! You must take a rough percentage<br />
and say that about 3 %. (permille) of a scene are fe-<br />
males, that is a nice number. So that means that<br />
about 333 new people have to enter a scene to have<br />
one girl among them. And well,we don't get thousands<br />
of new sceners.<br />
This scene is dying in number even as it is getting one<br />
rebirth after another in quality, except for games.<br />
How many sceners are there now, active and all? Two<br />
thousands? One thousand?<br />
I count four active girls but maybe there are more,<br />
some less known. That would count up to my number.<br />
<br />
And why are girls not so interested in computers?<br />
Well, it's a mans world you always hear and the scene<br />
confirms this heavily. I think I can safely speak for<br />
the other girls when I say that we get contacted<br />
only because we are girls. The best known one, Star-<br />
light, used to be voted for mainly because she was a<br />
girl and though I don't know her personally I've seen<br />
she had to be quite good to make up for the votes<br />
and she did a hell of a job doing that.<br />
<br />
My friend Cupid wrote me that if I got more contacts,<br />
I would easily rise to the top in the swapper charts,<br />
because I was a girl.<br />
I explained him then, as I will explain you now, that I<br />
would never want to be in the swapper charts. I have<br />
about ten contacts only and can hardly afford new<br />
ones, I am busy with two magazines and leading one<br />
group, Angry (together with Nti), and I am not very<br />
much of a swapper. I work at the same desk as Nti &amp;<br />
that's the reason why I usually have some hot wares<br />
to send. My notes are most of the time pretty long<br />
and friendly so I would not blame those few contacts<br />
I have if they decided to vote for me.<br />
But when I'ld see that I got 75 points or something<br />
from 10 contacts (based on a top-10 swapper chart)<br />
I would think this over again.<br />
<br />
What do you think when you contact a girl?"most" (a<br />
weird word when talking about 10) of my contacts<br />
usually write to me about sex, the different varia-<br />
tions and positions and all that comes with it and<br />
though I all but disklike this, it is only typical to see<br />
that with our small number all girls are seen as part<br />
ners for kinky conversation. Now Black Widow is also<br />
known for a small sex chapter in her magazine and I<br />
have had some spicy talks in my column in The Tribune<br />
but beside having a cunt, we are more!<br />
And some people seem to have trouble realising that.<br />
<br />
Now many sceners are still in their years of puberty<br />
and if they are not some have a hard time realising<br />
that.<br />
Porn stories are in mags everywhere and the funny<br />
thing I saw twice is that girls are advised to leave<br />
this chapter. Now why that? First of all, porn stories<br />
are about sex and those who believe that only boys<br />
can enjoy sex are boys I would never want to meet,<br />
because they are probably the people my friend :<br />
Steiger once referred to as : "Wham bam thank you<br />
ma'am" dudes in bed.<br />
porn stories in diskmags are most of the time ripped<br />
from x-rated magazines and actually can stimulate<br />
both men and women. Ha,never thought of that? Sad...<br />
<br />
It is a fact that the scene does not have many girls<br />
and they might never get more for all you know.<br />
So why take a rather unknowing, or even agressive<br />
stance to the few that are here?we are sceners just<br />
like you boys out there. As my late friend TBB said<br />
some years ago:<br />
<br />
Do you need a dick to switch on a c64?<br />
<br />
Some rag on girls being incompetent because of the<br />
known ones are mageditors and swappers. Apart from<br />
that these skills are not half as easy as they look<br />
I again want to point at the fact that a small percen<br />
tage only is capable of doing more. Okay,some can do<br />
a little graphics or music, And a few guys only can<br />
crack or code. Why else do we have longer swapper<br />
charts than any other chart?<br />
Everybody has different contacts but not everybody<br />
has different coders<br />
.So can you blame the four of us ? Remember coding<br />
TBB and BBR, remember drawing SMD. Don't remember<br />
me drawing!<br />
<br />
People who don't know what they are talking about<br />
should stop writing crap about the girls who would be<br />
against the scene. Girls want to have fun, just like<br />
boys. We have breasts and no beard and still we have<br />
all the fun we want. We can enjoy sex tales and porn<br />
stories just like everybody else. And when somebody<br />
fights against the rude discrimination of gays &amp; col-<br />
oured people while they look down on girls in the<br />
scene they're the stupidest fakes I have ever heard<br />
of.<br />
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If you want to have a say to me for Skyhigh, then do<br />
not hesitate, but write me on this address:<br />
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For swapping, I cannot guarantee a full 100% reply<br />
for I don't have much time with my two real life jobs<br />
and two mags to write for. Until next time!<br />
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LOVE FROM THE MISTRESS/ANGRY</div>Ymgve