Skyhigh 15 Why, RRR, Why?
_ Yoho everybody, here's BIZ KID with a rather sad chapter. (or??) Lot's of things has happend again, and one of my (group-pals??) turned out to be quite another than I thought!!!!
I'm talking about the former co-editor of this mag :
He sent out a note about me, Oxyron and Skyhigh issue #14 behind my back, but I managed to get a hand on it anyway!!!
But read for yourself!
Atleast it is time to correct some lame rumours spread around by certain guys in order to gain some more attention.
You surely have read a certain magazine that declared Oxyron as good as dead as our coders left the cbm 64 for the amiga, and you might believe in those words as the author seemed to have some internal knowledge but ....
Please,notice that the articles contents were wrong or to be more precise, partly crap!
In order to prove the article's content we in Oxyron decided to spread another small demo at the party called "the masque". if we would not have any more ambitions on the cbm 64 you surely could read some thing about it in a good-bye demo what we have not planned for the next years.
Wrong is that ...
TTS AND AXIS HAVE LEFT THE CBM 64 FOR THE AMIGA!
Fact is that both are more involved with amiga project these days as they have got much more possibilities left on that machine.Both announced some more great parts for the cbm 64, to be more precise they are going to develope world first's only, like any every top demo group coder these days.
PRI HAS STARTED TO COMPOSE ON OTHER SYSTEMS, AND HAS NOT DONE ANYTHING ON THE 8-BIT MACHINE SINCE AGES!
Fact is that PRI had a lot of soundtrack orders for various game projects (i.e. "swirl" from bad bytes europe) and that he is touring around with his band. It's not true that he started over on bigger machines now as he only tried the features of "protracker" (amiga) on an oxyron meeting for around 25 minutes. Just wait for the games and enjoy his masterpieces.
BIZ-KID WAS THE LEADER OF OXYRON
Fact is that TTS was to busy for to organise oxyron so he asked BIZ KID for some support to realise the organisation but that does not mean that BK became the leadership. BK interpreted the whole situation like that but it was only his very own interpretation, built up in his fantasy.
RRR CONTINUES AS CO-EDITOR FOR SKYHIGH
Fact is that he lost all his inspiration and interest to continue the job while reading the 14th issue. He prefers serious journalism so he can not continue writing for a book of fairy tales.
FACT IS THAT ....
Scrapper has "left" the cbm 64 scene for pc! He was bored from editing the charts chapter for Skyhigh and reduced his once so big swapping activities to an amount below 10 people. he might send out something if he feels like doing that. Slide has not done anything on the cbm 64 for ages, except for his silents-bars routine for "coma ligh 8". He became one of our fulltime amiga members and to be more precise, one of the most important persons in Oxyron.
Oxyron is a multisystem group without these stupid frontiers between all those different computer systems. Most of the members own different machines and try to help and encourage the other sections and all are present on the various meetings to support the forthcoming productions on all systems.
Oxyron's current memberstatus on cbm 64 looks exactly like this:
Biz-Kid decided to search for a more active demo group so he got erased from the status while Slide is on amiga only, what is a wise decision in my opinion. If you are interested in joining our forces and you are an advanced programmer, artist or even composer on the cbm64, on amiga or on the pc do not hesitate to send your submissions to :
Please keep in mind that we do not allow another mem bership in an active scene group except for special labels (music/graphic/game) like TIA for example onto the same computer system.
RRR/Oxyron 6th of january 1995 (public relations/talent scout)
And now I think it's time to defend myself a bit!!! (ed!!)
THE ANSWER - BIZ KID
- Dear RRR (read: FUCK YOU, RRR!!!)
First of all I will say that, I don't understand what have stucked you!!! Late december 1994 we had a very nice talk over the phone. clearing up a lot of subjects, planning to reorganize the future of Skyhigh, but then some weeks later.....
You backstabbed me......
The fact that you never even cared to contact me be fore spreading your note, shows me what you understand by serious jounalism and fairytales!!!!
You claim that your note was done to straighten out some errors, or even misinformation spread by me, BIZ KID!! Well if that's so why don't you do it? You have always wanted to be the guy who says the truth and not trying to cover up things!! Then why do you say : 'A certain magazine' ?? why not just call it Skyhigh?? Coz that's the mag, you're talking about right!
You say that, what I wrote, was partly crap!! well I'll turn it 180 degrees and say that mostly of what ya wrote were crap...
1st : to clear out the contents WE in Oxyron......
I don't know why, but somehow you sound like you are talking on the behalf on the entire oxy-posse; Well you're not!!!
- We (Oxyron) did this note...
Fact: YOU did this note, NOT Oxyron!!!
YOU erased me from the memberstatus,
The prove: few days ago, AXIS called me up to tell me about your lame behaviour. He said that you had kicked me out of Oxyron! but guess what he also said :
You are NOT kicked, so don't start looking for a new group!!!!
Well XXXX doesn't this sounds strange?? It sure does not match with your note!
In your chapter in issue #14 you wrote that Oxyron was working on a democratic basis.. - Well in my eyes it isn't rather democratic to kick me on the behalf of the entire group!!! This leads me to the once discussed subject:
No matter what you say I was the leader for a time... period!! This is no fantasy in my wacko head,just pure facts!!! Try ask TTS, he will tell you that he never wanted to be,or was the leder what so ever!! but as mentioned before then TTS and I discussed this many a time! We realised that oxyron could use an official Leader. and I volunteered and became the leader. At that time you were fooling around with your 2nd group (even a cracker group). The policy was and still is (I believe) that Oxy-members can not be in a second group, but guess what RRR could!! Why?? - becoz RRR think he can do anything!! Sure you have a point of view untill you take another - right!!! Still it seems a bit hyppocratic to see this sentence : "Oxy-members can't be in a 2nd group..." from a dude who, at that time, didn't gave shit, and joined a 2nd group!!!
Sorry RRR, but almost everything you say in your note is like that!
Well about leadership: I think, and that is my perso- nal opinion, that you always wanted to be the leader yourself, but no one ever found you qualified, mature or skilled enough to fullfill that role!! If someone ever thought you were the one, they sure would have told the rest of the group, but it never happened!! This tells me something....
About your so-called facts :
TTS AND AXIS HAVE LEFT THE C64 FOR AMIGA
Fact: I personally talked to both AXIS and TTS on the phone and they both told me that they had left the c64 and would only code on the amiga.
-This was the situation at that time, so I didn't write anything wrong!!! luckily AXIS has changed his mind and decided to stay with the c64!! cool my friend!! (and guess what.. I think that maybe TTS will follow in some months!) some months.
PRI HAS STARTED TO COMPOSE ON OTHER SYSTEMS AND HASN'T DONE ANYTHING ON THE 8BIT MACHINE SINCE AGES
If you bothered to read my chapter you would have noticed that I wrote : I have HEARD that PRI has moved to another system! and that I hadn't HEARD from him for ages, not that he hadn't done anything on the 8bit for ages!!!
BIZ-KID WAS THE LEADER OF OXYRON
Sure I was... 'Nuff said!
RRR CONTINUES AS CO-EDITOR FOR SKYHIGH
Well he don't, coz I don't want him anymore!!! Plain and simple!!
Scrapper has "left" the cbm 64 scene for pc! - well nothing new here, coz that is exactly what I wrote!
'Slide has not done anything on the cbm 64 for ages, except for his silentsbars routine for "coma light 8". He became one of our fulltime amiga members and to be more precise, one of the most important persons in oxyron.'
- One of our!!! damn there you did it again; OUR...
Ofcoz slide is an important person in Oxyron, but so are the other members!!
'BIZ KID decided to search for a more active demogroup so he got erased from the status.'
What the hell is this????? Yes, I'm looking for a new group becoz my old group was dying (atleast that was what I thought!!). So I got erased from the status!! Fuck you... YOU erased me, NOT Oxyron....
So this is what you call facts??? One of the only things that was 100% right is that RRR is NOT continuing as co-editor for Skyhigh....
I don't know why,but to me it seems like you are always looking for trouble XXXX! First, you rags on Nitro, because one of the editors make a mistake. next in line was The Tribune. Dunno why but somehow you didn't like them either. Then the story with Jazzcat and the game. Next is the ripping story about Dane; which you decided not to bring in this mag anyway. and now this!!!!!
And only god know how many other persons or groups you have been critizicing, or slagging on!!!!!
One thing is sure, you are looking for'em. maybe there is a small Duke hidden inside you??? I think so!!! What is the problem? isn't Skyhigh elite enough??
Last there's the words : (public relations/talent scout)
What the hell is this?? Is this meant as for Oxyron, or??? If so then I have never heard anyone from Oxy, mentioning you as talent scout what so ever!!!
Well XXXX, I'm honestly sorry that it had to end like this, but this time you stepped the wrong guy over the toes!! I don't wanna be "in war" with you, nor do I intend to slag on you in the future. I respect you for a lot of things, but I also disrespect you for a lot others. Just don't mess with the BIZZ, coz then I'll get mean!!
Best of luck
I, BIZ KID, am right now sitting at an Oxyron-meeting here in Flensburg/Germany
Less than a hour ago we had a talk about what have happended, about RRR and more. It turned out that all members were getting very sick and tired of RRR and his escapades.. So it all ended up with RRR - GETTING KICKED OUT OF OXYRON!!!!
yes HE IS OUT..........
Opposite RRR then I got all the backup from my friends....
- We wrote a letter telling him the decision, with our signatures underneath!
So RRR knows that he is out! In this way I will prevent going around his back with a knife just as sharp as his own.. - Said in other words :
I played by the rules and nothing else..
CONCERNING MY MEMBERSHIP
The day before AXIS called me up I was accepted to join CAMELOT. So I am no longer an OXY-member but a real camel! I will continue helping and supporting my true friends in oxyron, but read more about this in 'tha biz-mix!'...