http://c64mags.untergrund.net/wiki/index.php?title=Skyhigh_13_ch02_The_Biz-Mix&feed=atom&action=historySkyhigh 13 ch02 The Biz-Mix - Revision history2024-03-29T10:58:32ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.19.0http://c64mags.untergrund.net/wiki/index.php?title=Skyhigh_13_ch02_The_Biz-Mix&diff=2761&oldid=prevYmgve at 15:57, 25 June 20072007-06-25T15:57:15Z<p></p>
<p><b>New page</b></p><div><pre> tha biz-mix!<br />
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yeah once again it os time for the<br />
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biz-mix<br />
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yep it's that time again. the time where<br />
i, biz kid, will share some of my wacky<br />
thoughts with the rest of ya!<br />
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magazines.. what makes a mag successfull<br />
i ask you! and 97% of the answers will<br />
be the text... i can't agree more !<br />
but i say it's more than only the text!<br />
<br />
in most reactions for the different mags<br />
you see this : what really is important<br />
is the text NOT the outfit!!!<br />
i say that this is only half true...<br />
yes there i said it. so what do i mean<br />
by that? - an example :<br />
<br />
you load up this new mag called, say,<br />
'powermag' by the group -p0lse-. it<br />
starts up with a nice intro. after you<br />
pressed space you enter a menuscreen.<br />
this menuscreen is poor coded with a<br />
lame logo and an unreadable font. and<br />
that's not all, furthermore the loader<br />
is fucking slow...<br />
what do you do??? i believe that 85% of<br />
the sceners resets their computer, and<br />
load another program!!!! but what about<br />
the text??? i think that most dudes did<br />
not even see the text.. maybe this mag<br />
has some superb text but the outfit was<br />
so bad that no-one really wants to load<br />
it up. ok honestly, how do you think<br />
this mag will do in the charts?? in the<br />
top?? no, i don't think so either!<br />
so text maybe isn't the most important<br />
thing afterall ?? ooops that's a hard<br />
one isn't it?<br />
<br />
i would like to know how many honestly<br />
would spend much time reading these mags<br />
coz i don't think this would match the<br />
oh so famous words :'the text is the<br />
most important!'<br />
<br />
so why am i writing all this?? well i<br />
can say that i have no intention of rag-<br />
ging or dizzin' any mags what so ever!!<br />
i just want to draw your intention to a<br />
very important question when talking<br />
about what makes a mag succesfull!<br />
people are not telling the entire truth<br />
when they say that the text is THE most<br />
important thing of a mag!<br />
to tell you the truth then i myself also<br />
most often reset when i get into such a<br />
mag. i guess i read a lot more of the<br />
mags bcoz i'm a mag-editor myself, but<br />
eventhough.<br />
text is deffently VERY important, but in<br />
my eyes a good mag should also include<br />
following :<br />
<br />
- a plain and simple readable font<br />
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- a decent code with a very userfriendly<br />
outfit (meaning an easyworking menu so<br />
you don't have to turn to the helppage<br />
everytime you shall turn the page or<br />
load another chapter)<br />
<br />
- an okay loader. irq or not - doesn't<br />
really matter. only must is that it<br />
shall work properly and at least a bit<br />
fast!<br />
<br />
- i also prefer some nice grafix.(i know<br />
this is a matter of taste, but anyway<br />
a mag with nice logos are much more<br />
enjoyable than mags with bad logos)<br />
<br />
<br />
well what do you out there has to say<br />
about this. how many of you are willing<br />
to admit that the outfit also play one<br />
heck of a role, not only the text???<br />
<br />
...think about it...<br />
<br />
and to all of you who are thinking of<br />
starting up a new disk magazine :<br />
<br />
t h i n k a g a i n<br />
<br />
not that i don't want you to create a<br />
new mag, nor am i afraid of competitors.<br />
i just want to warn you!! it takes one<br />
hell of a time to create an issue.<br />
remember that you should also release it<br />
almost regularly. you should remember<br />
that a lot of text has to be written for<br />
EVERY issue. ofcoz you could do a lot of<br />
non-scene stuff. i mean just open for<br />
mtv and copy the charts.. if that's what<br />
you want fine with me, but i personally<br />
don't think non-scene stuff has anything<br />
to do in a c64 scene disk magazine.<br />
if you want to see a report from, say,<br />
monster rock festival in england, then<br />
you should buy a music (heavy) papermag<br />
in you local shop. if you want to know<br />
something about the 64 scene then you<br />
should ofcoz get an issue of a 64 scene<br />
magazine. get my drift??? i think so!<br />
once again : think twice before creating<br />
a new one - ok!!! - nuff said!<br />
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lately a certain magazine has accused me<br />
of getting more and more soft. i'm ofcoz<br />
talking about the entropy mag: tribune<br />
or more precise - the tribune -.<br />
well first i have to say to all you out<br />
there that i'm NOT looking out for yet<br />
another war with barry or elvira. as a<br />
matter of fact they are both very good<br />
friends of mine. so don't expect me to<br />
be another duke or the pulse.<br />
as you all should know, then tribune is<br />
known for (or would like 2 be known for)<br />
telling the truth. or as they say them-<br />
selves : truth for all!!<br />
recently i myself has been under the<br />
knife of the editors hand. it is said<br />
that i, biz kid, has changed. i have so<br />
to say lost some of the grip. indirectly<br />
it's said that i'm getting too soft.<br />
hmmm, now i'm pissed, now i want a war..<br />
he-he, fuck i won't.<br />
no seriously, that article really got me<br />
started thinking. is it really true that<br />
i have changed??? am i getting soft??<br />
the entire time i have said that no mat-<br />
ter what happend, i would stay the same<br />
and actually i think i have succeeded!<br />
but i have also asked you to kick me in<br />
my ass if you think i changed.. guess<br />
what - someone did! yep tribune took me<br />
on my words and verbally slapped me in<br />
the face. thank you!<br />
as said then it got me thinking. maybe i<br />
am bit more soft now (i dunno!), but i<br />
don't think that my style has changed<br />
afterall. i still write my opinion, and<br />
i still say what i want to (e.g. the bcd<br />
story a few issues back!!)<br />
<br />
the tribune said that rrr in some way<br />
'took over' or continued my style 'when<br />
i got soft' - honestly i think that's<br />
bullshit. sure rrr has a more rough<br />
style, but i still don't think i changed<br />
mine! i belive that it stayed the same.<br />
now people maybe just have two different<br />
styles to get used to. this is by the<br />
way an improvement in my eyes!<br />
<br />
so what could be the reason for tribune<br />
to say it?<br />
<br />
maybe this entire story with the pulse<br />
has changed the tribune. maybe it's them<br />
who has changed and not me? maybe...<br />
i'm not saying that it's like that, i am<br />
just pointing out that maybe there are<br />
other important things that play a major<br />
role here.<br />
<br />
but what do you out there think ?<br />
<br />
- has my style changed ?<br />
- am i getting soft ?<br />
- has skyhigh become 'too friendly ??'<br />
<br />
i want some answers!!<br />
<br />
<br />
one thing is certain i will for sure<br />
have it in my mind when doing the next<br />
'tha biz-mix'! so better look out dudes!<br />
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ok now something VERY different. i have<br />
lately recieved a letter which pissed me<br />
off big time. the letter was sent to me<br />
by dow jones (ex-mind dogger i believe!)<br />
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yo biz kid!<br />
<br />
the reason for me to write this letter<br />
is your project 'the anti nazism demo'.<br />
but first of all i must confess that my<br />
latest issue of the skyhigh was number<br />
11, so i'm not up to date.<br />
<br />
in my opinion this demo is a really stu-<br />
pid idea, it's fuckin' superfluous!<br />
what do you intend with it? how many<br />
nazis do you know in this scene? for<br />
sure, there are some (e.g in censor),<br />
but what do you expect?!? do you think<br />
they will change their minds? they will<br />
say to themselves : 'oh, are we wicked,<br />
we regret it from the bottom of our<br />
heart!'? for sure they will not! so for<br />
what reason was this project started?<br />
one possible reason may be, that this<br />
theme was only used as pretence for a<br />
kind of co-op demo, like the DOTY.<br />
another reason is, that you all want to<br />
calm your conscience. more you can't do<br />
with this demo, see it! when it will be<br />
spread all concerned are happy that they<br />
have done something 'active' against<br />
facism, maybe they sleep very well this<br />
night. but what will remain?<br />
a) that the scene knows that you dislike<br />
facsim,and<br />
b) that the facists go on with their<br />
activities.<br />
and that you can you reach much simpler.<br />
i hate this stupid thoughts called<br />
facism too,but i only say it here! and<br />
when you publish this letter, the effect<br />
is the same - the scene knows that i am<br />
against facism. be honest have you ever<br />
read in an interview things like :<br />
'burning foreigners houses is great fun'<br />
i think not. the opposite, nearly every-<br />
one say nazism suxx! so the only ones<br />
you reach with this demo, are those who<br />
are against nazism themselves - and that<br />
means that the effect is zero. nobody<br />
had a use of it, except that there is a<br />
new demo to spread. when you really want<br />
to do something social, why don't you<br />
open a donate-account or something like<br />
this? let's collect money for da victims<br />
of facism, or the fugitives of rwanda.<br />
we may release one thousand of : 'help<br />
the fugitives'- demos, and during we<br />
admire ourselves for that, they die of<br />
hunger and cholera! i bet when you open<br />
an account you get too less money to pay<br />
the bankcharge, and that's the point :<br />
you guys code nice effects, paint good<br />
graphics or compose cool tunes in your<br />
spartetime, cos it's fun. and if you do<br />
it foran own group release, or for the<br />
label 'anti nazism demo' doesn't really<br />
matter. it's the same fun. but if you<br />
should do something inconvenient for the<br />
same label i think nearly all would quit<br />
when you can do something good with the<br />
things you do anyway,why not doing it?<br />
but at once, when you should do more for<br />
it than you would like to, you will stop<br />
your social engagement. it's strenous.<br />
it took sparetime. maybe it costs money.<br />
COS OF THIS ATTITUDE IT WAS POSSIBLE TO<br />
BUILD UP THE 'DRITTES REICH' UNDER ADOLF<br />
HITLER!. face the reality, we today are<br />
not a bit better than da people 50 years<br />
ago;if we live at this time, we let the<br />
story go on like happened. AND MAYBE IT<br />
WILL HAPPEN AGAIN. it is no secret that<br />
the rights get more and more powerful.<br />
they cooperate over the borders, and<br />
every single one try to convince their<br />
friends and acquaintances, or the guys<br />
standing next to them in bars or discos.<br />
and they have success!<br />
so again my question: what do you intend<br />
with this demo?<br />
got my point?<br />
dow jones!<br />
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well dj! first i would like to say thanx<br />
for your letter. it's always good to see<br />
or hear another persons opinion!<br />
it won't be right if i can't take some<br />
critizism! with that i'm not saying that<br />
i agree, i simply saying that i like a<br />
debate instead of saying that i'm right<br />
and everybody else is wrong!!<br />
when that's said i would like to comment<br />
your letter, and try to answer some of<br />
your questions, and starighten things<br />
out!<br />
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no i'm not sure that i got your point!!<br />
i think some of what you're saying does<br />
make sense but other is bull!!<br />
so you think my project is stupid! hmm!<br />
as a matter of fact you are the 1st one<br />
who says so! so far everyone approves my<br />
idea.(as far as i know!)<br />
how many nazis i know in the scene?<br />
to be honest i don't know any! except<br />
for airwolf and the lamebrains from tcc<br />
in sweden 1993! concerning airwolf :<br />
i can't take that fat bastard serious!<br />
he hates me and i hate him - period!!<br />
about the other wanna-bees from the tcc<br />
party 1993; let me tell you a little<br />
story : i don't know if you were present<br />
at this party. one night (evening)<br />
airwolf walked around the hall with 2<br />
nazi wanna-bees with balaclavas at his<br />
tail (he cleared the road). they were<br />
saluting hitler by doing 'sieg heil',and<br />
waving their nazi flag. people quickly<br />
made room for these dickheads so they<br />
could pass by, but not me!! it allmost<br />
ended with a fight between me and these<br />
2 lamebrains! but guess what, when they<br />
found out that they couldn't scare me<br />
one bit they suddenly changed their<br />
tactic. now they thought i was cool bcoz<br />
i wasn't scared, and they tried to talk<br />
with me like we were the best of friends<br />
not only were the lame wanna-bees they<br />
were also pathetic. - but no i don't<br />
think i know any nazis in the scene. if<br />
there should be any in censor! - well i<br />
haven't heard so!! luckily i think our<br />
scene will deal with nazi scum if they<br />
try to enter the scene!<br />
but if there are any, then i don't think<br />
they will suddenly change and regret<br />
their history. ofcoz they won't!!<br />
so why is the project started you ask!<br />
well i better answer this question one<br />
more time! devil of noice and i was at<br />
the party in sweden talking about our<br />
point of view concerning nazism/facism!<br />
and we came to the conclusion that we<br />
should do a demo against it. time went<br />
on and the project grew. now we thought<br />
it would be a great idea to implement<br />
parts from different groups! so it did<br />
turn into a kind of (doty) demo - yes!!<br />
i just cannot see what your problem is<br />
with that!! you sound like doty is a bad<br />
idea!! hell no it isn't!!<br />
try see it from this side : we are doing<br />
a demo where we are showing our opinion<br />
about nazism, and in the same time we<br />
incorporate da scene/groups! now we kill<br />
two birds with one stone - wonderfull!<br />
i have no intention of saving the world<br />
from nazism or facism. i have never ever<br />
expressed anything like that! all i want<br />
to with this project is to show my atti-<br />
tude against this phenomena, and maybe<br />
even unite the scene a bit!!<br />
so everybody (if any!!!) who think this<br />
demo is made to exterminate facism just<br />
like that, should think again! giving<br />
money to the victims doesn't sound like<br />
such a bad idea at all, but then you are<br />
out in the real world again! who knows<br />
maybe i someday will start something<br />
'more serious' up in the real world to<br />
fight nazism/facism. what i mean is NOT<br />
real fighting or killing, coz this would<br />
not make me any better than the enemy.<br />
-ever heard the expression :<br />
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KNOWLEDGE IS POWER<br />
<br />
i believe that if people learned about<br />
the terrible time around world war ii,<br />
they would think different. another way<br />
to fight the nazis could be to laugh at<br />
them. a good thing would be to make 'em<br />
look ridiculous, then many might see how<br />
stupid nazism/facism really is! combined<br />
with the knowledge this could be very<br />
powerful!<br />
but back to the demo!<br />
as said i have no intention to save the<br />
world or make me look like a hero. no<br />
fuckin way, all i want is to express my<br />
opinion, and encourage people to think!<br />
well, maybe they even get so excited<br />
that they start up campaigns against it<br />
too!<br />
so don't say the effect is equal zero.<br />
bullshit!!! if i can make just a few<br />
people fight back i have achieved a lot!<br />
this means that we are more to spread<br />
the message!<br />
<br />
i hope this was answer enough for the<br />
question about my intention with the<br />
demo!<br />
<br />
<br />
let me comment some of the other things<br />
you have written. you talk about rwanda!<br />
sure rwanda is a sad incidence at the<br />
moment! but i don't think these two si-<br />
tuations should be compared! the rwanda<br />
situation is a result of overpopulation,<br />
sad conditions of life and war!<br />
nazism once (more or less) started a war<br />
and this must never happen again!!!<br />
we should learn from our mistakes and<br />
eliminate da problems before they arise!<br />
the history must never happen again....<br />
you say that maybe it will! how can you<br />
think like dat? being realistic? -maybe!<br />
i prefer to think like this : history<br />
will never happen again, coz we are too<br />
many to stop it! 50 years ago people did<br />
close their eyes, not this time!<br />
the rights are getting more and more<br />
powerful, and i feel disgusted about it!<br />
nazism must be stopped once and for all!<br />
but we have to get started now !!<br />
you say the rights are successfully con-<br />
vincing the guy or girl right beside 'em<br />
in bars or discos! well maybe more of us<br />
anti nazis should stand on the other<br />
side of them and tell them the truth!<br />
<br />
maybe we should work more goal-directed<br />
to achieve the best result. the only<br />
acceptable result :<br />
<br />
- -- -------------------------- -- -<br />
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complete extermination of<br />
nazism &amp; facism<br />
<br />
- -- -------------------------- -- -<br />
<br />
got my point!!!<br />
<br />
BIZ KID<br />
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<br />
well if you dow jones, or anybody else<br />
has something to say to this, please<br />
send it to me and i'll bring it in an<br />
upcomming issue of skyhigh!<br />
<br />
talking about antinazis - try to check<br />
out the list!<br />
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anti-nazi demo members<br />
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GROUP HANDLE STATUS<br />
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noice DEVIL coder, org.<br />
--- draz graphics<br />
--- decoder music<br />
--- doxx code.music<br />
--- peace music<br />
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oxyron BIZ KID graphics, org.<br />
--- tts code<br />
--- axis code<br />
--- rrr graphics<br />
--- scrapper spread<br />
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camelot RAZ coder, org.<br />
--- cruzer code<br />
--- slammer code<br />
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fiction yoda code<br />
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no name gigabyte code,spread<br />
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f4cg maja spreader<br />
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slash poeba cover<br />
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guilty vertigo code<br />
--- fct gfx/covers<br />
--- kathulo (amiga)<br />
--- filth music/covers<br />
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jam frenchflair gfx<br />
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padua mad code,gfx<br />
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spirit betrayer code,gfx<br />
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taboo acidchild spread<br />
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chaos cubehead music<br />
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ex-acy digahole spread<br />
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elysium cruise gfx<br />
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entropy the mistress spread<br />
nastiness spread<br />
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excess authentic spread<br />
cat gfx/spread<br />
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xl/acp/arc sinister gfx/spread<br />
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c. pirates leech spread<br />
brix code<br />
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antic incubus spread<br />
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chromance therion gfx<br />
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elysium cruise gfx<br />
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plush fanta music<br />
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equinoxe apis code<br />
echo composer,spread<br />
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<br />
<br />
i'm outta here BIZ KID<br />
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