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ok time for yet another edition of words<br />
and opininons from sceners!!!<br />
the first one is from depeh of antic!!<br />
he has a very clear view on the magaz.<br />
check it out ya'll!!!<br />
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MAGASCENE?<br />
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(this article is written by depeh/antic<br />
and can be freely spread and used by any<br />
magazine in the c64 scene.)<br />
<br />
hello scenefolks! i want you all to read<br />
this article and wake up and smell the<br />
reality!<br />
this scene is right now being DESTROYED<br />
by all theese fucking magazines around.<br />
why does every fucking group got to have<br />
a magazine?i don't think its so very<br />
fun to get a sending with 2 or 3 fucking<br />
magazines and nothing else on... i don't<br />
think it is so very stimulating to read<br />
the same charts,same news,same reactions<br />
in every single mag.i think that you mag<br />
editors should learn how to code or draw<br />
graphics or make music and you should<br />
start to make DEMOS instead.<br />
<br />
we all don't want a scene with only<br />
magazines,do we?? noo ofcoz not...<br />
mark my words when i'm saying that this<br />
scene is turning into a MAGASCENE!<br />
<br />
why can't two or three magazines go<br />
together to one bigger,more fair,better<br />
magazine or best of all why not just<br />
have one disk-magazine where for example<br />
the 10-20th best magz have joined forces<br />
and created a SUPERMAGAZINE this would<br />
do a magazine more objective,more fair<br />
in charts,more text in each issue.<br />
<br />
THINK about this idea.and hopefully some<br />
of you will go together to create a<br />
supermagazine.<br />
sadly enough.i personally think that you<br />
out there are far to EGOISTIC to this...<br />
but i can prommise you that we would get<br />
a much better scene with more demos<br />
around...<br />
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useally i do not respond on text in this<br />
chapter, but in this case i felt forced<br />
to do so!<br />
i don't think there's too many mags in<br />
the scene today - no no no.. but i must<br />
agree that the standart maybe is a bit<br />
poor.. there IS a lot of mags around,but<br />
a lot of them never really gets started.<br />
some groups think it would be 'cool' to<br />
have their own mag!!. but after a few<br />
issues they realize that it takes a lot<br />
of time and a big portion of creativity<br />
to create a mag. and then they give up<br />
and let the mag die!!<br />
and this is the way it should be!!!<br />
<br />
--only the strongest survive!--<br />
<br />
and furthermore if you (not you depeh,<br />
but all of you (english has its strange<br />
sides!!)) don't like a mag then just<br />
don't read it..<br />
i think the mags play a very important<br />
role in the scene today. a role which<br />
should and will continue!!<br />
-but we still could use a lot more demos<br />
<br />
and yes i think most of the mag-editors<br />
should start coding, drawing, composing<br />
or whatever!! read more about this in<br />
'tha biz-mix!'<br />
<br />
BIZ KID<br />
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the next one from bumboo of jam is quite<br />
similar to the previous one!!<br />
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everyone complains that there is too<br />
much mags in the scene. i think there is<br />
too little GOOD mags in the scene.<br />
most of the mags are just bad imitations<br />
of script and other old mags, and of bad<br />
mags there is too much!!<br />
bumboo/jam/di<br />
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ok now to something different<br />
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<br />
we in cadgers are building up a german<br />
section called 'cadgers-frg'.<br />
if you are interested in joining feel<br />
free and send a disk including you work<br />
to:<br />
slayer/cadgers<br />
XXXXXXXXXXXXXX<br />
XXXXXXXXXXXXXX<br />
XXXXXXXXXXXXXX<br />
XXXXXXXXXXXXXX<br />
<br />
but we are only searching 4:<br />
<br />
-composers -crackers -orrie suppliers<br />
-coders -gfx-men -modem traders<br />
<br />
i hope to hear from you! slayer/cdg!<br />
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neccy of extacy would like to clear up<br />
a few things!<br />
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hey you all. i think most of you have<br />
heard of our war with amnesia. well, i<br />
think amnesia's really exagerating every<br />
thing.and on the pardey i found out that<br />
the war is really bullshit. and it was<br />
for us already long ended.but one thing<br />
darkman didn't leave the scene because<br />
of the war. i know several reasons. if<br />
you wanna know 'em then just do an inde-<br />
pendent interview ok.<br />
well please print this, and if i can do<br />
anything for you then just say it.<br />
adios dude!!<br />
<br />
- you erwin !!<br />
please write the entire story and i'll<br />
bring it here ok!!<br />
BIZ KID<br />
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guilty is still looking for members!!<br />
check it out..<br />
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<br />
the guilty-staff is looking for some so-<br />
called talented guys as coders, gfx'ers<br />
&amp; composers to join our forces.<br />
if you're kinda interested, please send<br />
some examples of your work to me or to<br />
vertigo/guilty - or just call us for<br />
further information!!<br />
fct/guilty<br />
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nb! addies in addy-chapter<br />
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another guilty member with a explanation<br />
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<br />
some months ago frank and i had a call.<br />
after some craptalk he had the idea of a<br />
coop-demo between loa &amp; guilty. NO WAY,<br />
nothing easier than this. ok,it was plan<br />
ned. then frank asked forbidden cult for<br />
a loalogo and therefor he promised never<br />
to paint a guilty-logo (logos from lore<br />
of arts-members are so lame!!)<br />
fct painted such a brilliant loa-logo<br />
(better than loa deserves!) and..and..<br />
these lame-brains released a logoshow<br />
with a guilty-logo from creb that was<br />
complete crap!<br />
creb is the most untalented graphician<br />
whose work i ever saw! well we laughed<br />
so much about his logos untill we've<br />
seen the guilty logo. we were so angry<br />
as this is no logo, it's a ?? in anyones<br />
eyes (sorry i couldn't read that word)<br />
did they really thought we'll use that?<br />
and then the news about releasing the<br />
coop-demo at the camelot party..<br />
pure camel-shit! not one single word was<br />
said about that. and they claimed we had<br />
just 1 part finished. haha, we had NO<br />
part finished except the intro.according<br />
to these facts and the lameness of whole<br />
lore of arts, i think it's really no<br />
wonder that we cancelled this coop with<br />
dudes whose job is to bore and tease<br />
other sceners with their rotten code and<br />
smelly logos. since i've seen all lore<br />
of arts demos there's no good part ever<br />
done by them. caused by the fact i am<br />
easily in the top ten of the most lazy<br />
coders i shall shut my mouth about other<br />
but how could anyone respect loa work??<br />
if this i a war-declaration ? why should<br />
i care about these idiots.<br />
<br />
vertigo of guilty &amp; x-rated<br />
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well pretty hard words from vertigo !!<br />
but i guess there will be no war! the<br />
reason for this is: lore of arts is dead<br />
<br />
frank renamed into slay and is searching<br />
for a group to join!!!<br />
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following dude is just looking for some<br />
more contacts<br />
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howdy freax all over the world!!<br />
i'm looking for much more contax all<br />
over the globe!!so if you are interested<br />
in our last warez,our last issue of<br />
nitro and all other thinx,then send fast<br />
a disc to:<br />
<br />
SPERMBIRD/EXCESS&lt;N.O.E.<br />
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XXXXXXXXXXXXXX<br />
XXXXXXXXXXXXXX<br />
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<br />
i'm also interested in punk-tapeswap!!!<br />
i wait for your disc!!contact me now!!<br />
<br />
yours spermbird/excess<br />
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anotha excesser with some important text<br />
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fake-originals<br />
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<br />
this word becomes more important every<br />
month.hot originals are spread around<br />
and most just after the first release or<br />
even before.and when you hear some weeks<br />
later,that this original never has been<br />
spread.you did it.a so called re-crack.<br />
it is the 2nd time,that i cracked such a<br />
fake-original.this time was KILL.FIELDS<br />
recracked from chromance,as mr.wax said.<br />
but i will tell you the first time,too.<br />
one year ago one original called GALAC-<br />
TIC CHAOS was spread round.i did it in<br />
a big hurry with 2 trainers without a<br />
look in the coding.later,i heard from<br />
nightshade/success,that scs never spread<br />
this orie,and noone else could have it.<br />
he told me to look in the coding between<br />
3000 and 3200.there was the name of the<br />
cracker BURGLAR/SUCCESS.but it was too<br />
late,as it was already spread some weeks<br />
ago.<br />
<br />
in fact,as i made the gamereviews with<br />
sentinel,i checked out every release of<br />
galactic chaos.10 out of 13 groups had<br />
the name in their orie at 3000.and all<br />
did this crack before scs spread it sum<br />
months later.i don't know,if the groups<br />
without the name in it scratched it,but<br />
this orie was said as unspread by scs.<br />
the 10 groups,which not noticed the name<br />
in the fake-orie were not only average<br />
groups only.i counted 3 groups out of<br />
the 1992-top 10,who had the name in it.<br />
from now on we checked out every orie we<br />
got supplied.same with killing fields in<br />
november 93.i got it on 2 following days<br />
from 2 good contacts,from which i never<br />
expect a recrack.so i released this orie<br />
and spread it round.same did many of my<br />
contacts.as i sended my crack to mr.wax,<br />
i got a very fast reply with the words,<br />
that killing fields was a fake-original,<br />
as it's not spread yet.i asked my two<br />
spreaders,from which guys they got it.<br />
2 times the same answer.BIGFOOT/EX-[P]<br />
<br />
i don't want to call him a recracker,but<br />
he has no connection to chromance,so how<br />
he could get the original beside recrack<br />
it.<br />
FRED'S BACK PART 1 and SNAKE OR DIE were<br />
two other originals,which were spread as<br />
fakeoriginals,first one also cracked by<br />
us.<br />
i came to the result,that it's very sad,<br />
that you cannot crack a single orie any-<br />
more,even if it's from a known supplier.<br />
you cannot find out,if it's a real orie<br />
or a fake one at the first sight.<br />
<br />
as i don't want to give up cracking,i'll<br />
continue and avoid originals from a few<br />
people.i'm interested in your stories 'n<br />
problems about that.and please inform me<br />
about all originals,which were cracked<br />
before there were spread.<br />
<br />
RED ROCK OF EXCESS (n.o.e.)<br />
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i would like to see some comments on dis<br />
subject. please mail them to me and i'll<br />
bring them in next issue.<br />
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<br />
next one is another story concerning the<br />
rebuilding of vision. lots of stories<br />
has been told one way or another.<br />
this one is about the 'original' members<br />
<br />
check it out ya'll<br />
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<br />
somethin to said 'bout vision slagging<br />
by newscopy/g*p<br />
<br />
as i have been wondering 'bout this<br />
vision-thing ever since they were 1st<br />
time reformed (when curlin &amp; others were<br />
in), i really want to say my opinion.<br />
<br />
i've been in the scene from 1986-87, so<br />
maybe i have something new..<br />
<br />
i checked a 'few' disks (about 500) and<br />
found the demo i was searching for :<br />
' legalise it ' which was visions first<br />
demo ever. actual release date was 17-10<br />
1988 at the joy/mgf/wwe party,veenendaal<br />
holland. and in the scroll they say that<br />
it's their 1st demo. so i made a fast<br />
calculating and.. hmm. let's say it's<br />
5.5 years from their forming.<br />
unfortunately the demo (which was one of<br />
the collest those times) bugged 50%, but<br />
in one part i found addies (they lived<br />
in holland) and the names of some of the<br />
members. they were :<br />
<br />
tsm (code), hph (gfx) and shock. (the 2<br />
first ones are brothers) they all were<br />
also swappers. i don't tknow if they had<br />
any other members, probably not, as the<br />
group was young. this demo was also the<br />
last one i saw from these guys.<br />
<br />
then...year 1990, september, i took one<br />
note from curlin/vision including their<br />
correct memberstatus:<br />
<br />
curlin - mad butcher - jive - dr.disk<br />
<br />
macumba - silk - twf - hardy - shimada<br />
<br />
rough - tom - stubby - black destiny<br />
<br />
status - bluez - yabba - zagon - zmurph<br />
<br />
gryzor - scooby - icon - general - tgd<br />
<br />
spinx - glasnost - SKYHIGH - bird<br />
<br />
(this list was from their early months!)<br />
<br />
<br />
i rememba when this new vision was built<br />
i wondered was there any old vision mem-<br />
bers... as in mags stood 'a new group is<br />
born, vision...'<br />
-this vision became really popular, and<br />
made a lot of demos.<br />
<br />
when i compare these statuses together<br />
with the new vision status that i saw in<br />
skyhigh issue 9 in an article by wolf of<br />
vision.i don't see a single member who<br />
would have been in both 1st &amp; 2nd vision<br />
or in 2nd &amp; 3rd vision. STRANGE?<br />
i may be wrong if i say that somebody is<br />
re-using vision's name. i mean the REAL<br />
dutch vision!!!<br />
maybe 2nd vision did so,or maybe the new<br />
3rd vision, don't know..<br />
dear wolf, did you know 'bout da dutch<br />
vision ?<br />
<br />
i'm writing this as i'm impartial in<br />
this argument, and i really don't want<br />
to slag on anyone. so i'm waiting for an<br />
answer in SKYHIGH....sob!<br />
<br />
signed by a confused<br />
<br />
electric of extend<br />
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yo wolf i (biz kid) would also love to<br />
see an answer from you here in my mag!!<br />
i think and hope you will not see this<br />
an attack from either electric nor me!!<br />
all we want is an answer.!!<br />
<br />
i'm looking forward to your respond!!<br />
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<br />
hello! here's something to study, both<br />
for the lamer that wants to set the<br />
highest prefix before 'swap' and for the<br />
more intellectual person who likes to<br />
philosophize over mathematical or any<br />
other kind of important problems.<br />
<br />
well watch this and have fun<br />
tchad of jam<br />
<br />
(this font don't have an (arrow-up), so<br />
instead i'll use this one : ^)<br />
<br />
PREFIX ABBREVIATION FACTOR<br />
<br />
yotta Y 10^24 =<br />
zetta Z 10^21 = * and so on... *<br />
exa E 10^18 =<br />
peta P 10^15 = 1000000000000000<br />
tera T 10^12 = 1000000000000<br />
giga G 10^9 = 1000000000<br />
mega M 10^6 = 1000000<br />
kilo k 10^3 = 1000<br />
10^0 = 1<br />
milli m 10^-3 = 0.001<br />
mikro u 10^-6 = 0.000001<br />
nano n 10^-9 = 0.000000001<br />
piko p 10^-12 = 0.000000000001<br />
femto f 10^-15 = 0.000000000000001<br />
alto a 10^-18 =<br />
zepto z 10^-21 = * and so on... *<br />
yokto y 10^-24 =<br />
<br />
the upper letters flashing (YZEPTGM) is<br />
big letters.<br />
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* a small but funny thing from tchad *<br />
<br />
ok another papermag has seen the light<br />
of dawn. the name is 'art press' and it<br />
is released by rebels!! a very cool mag!<br />
check it out<br />
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<br />
hello fellow-sceners !<br />
<br />
REBELS will release a papermag from now<br />
on named 'ART PRESS' .<br />
it is not a magazine like 'pirates' or<br />
'milestone', the art press concentrates<br />
on graphics only such as comics,pictures<br />
and other drawings , also graffitis<br />
could be printed .<br />
the whole magazine is printed and not<br />
copied as most others , therefore the<br />
quality is absolutely cool .<br />
please note that the price for the mag<br />
is as low as possible,we only wanna get<br />
back the money for the printing .<br />
only dave and neotec of rebels will<br />
spread/sell the art press,we can only<br />
give the magazine to our CONTACTS due<br />
to the limited edition .<br />
dave is already 'sold out' , but you can<br />
still register for an issue if you are<br />
a contact of neotec .<br />
it is not possible for me to send the<br />
art press to non-contacts because of the<br />
high postage .<br />
<br />
if you want to get one issue then<br />
do not hesitate and send the money for<br />
it . i will put you on my list after i<br />
received the money and only then<br />
you can be assured of getting art press.<br />
i'm sure we will not have enough issues<br />
for you all , but it's impossible for<br />
us to do such a lot of copies , hence<br />
it will be only for the chosen few ,<br />
we are sorry .<br />
<br />
try to be fast , that is all i can say .<br />
and again,non-contacts have NO CHANCE ,<br />
only if you pay the postage for the<br />
sending,and even then i will favour my<br />
old and worthy contacts !<br />
<br />
price for one issue of art press :<br />
<br />
1.50.-dm for germans<br />
<br />
1.- dollar us for all others<br />
<br />
( if you are too lame to get dollars,<br />
you can also send THREE DISKS (64),<br />
but they have to be 100%,not folded,<br />
cut or whatever,don't try to fool<br />
me ! )<br />
<br />
my addy :<br />
<br />
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX<br />
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<br />
in addition we will give all art press<br />
readers the THREE WINNING COVERS of the<br />
competition in news press , this will<br />
be possible because the art press will<br />
be spreaded together with news press .<br />
i think this is a good offer , only<br />
the art press people will get that<br />
service .<br />
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looking for another contact ?<br />
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<br />
did you search a nice contact<br />
who swaps fast,friendly<br />
and who sends cool warez?<br />
then,right now,you've found him<br />
<br />
contact<br />
<br />
xposer of rebels<br />
the swapper you were looking for!<br />
<br />
here's my addy<br />
<br />
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camelots 'revealed' staff are asking<br />
for your help!!<br />
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<br />
revealed public announcement<br />
<br />
due to other projects (games) we would<br />
like to know if you people would like to<br />
see another edition of revealed printed<br />
on its regular second monthly-release.<br />
<br />
contribute to the next edition with news<br />
reports, articles concerning the scene,<br />
programming or whatever by giving feed-<br />
back sent to this address:<br />
<br />
revealed magazine<br />
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX<br />
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<br />
- demoralized -<br />
- stimulation -<br />
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also ingenious brain ask for your help<br />
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<br />
this is a note by MAV/EQUINOXE to all<br />
coverpainters in the 64er scene...<br />
<br />
i'll do some coverreviews for our<br />
mag 'INGENIOUS BRAIN' and i need<br />
your help!<br />
<br />
please send your covers (they should<br />
be NEW) to me to review them in our<br />
mag. please support me! ok, here's my<br />
addy:<br />
<br />
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX<br />
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX<br />
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX<br />
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX<br />
<br />
and i'll send you the next issue of<br />
our mag for sure. you can also try<br />
for swapping with a GIRL. i'll reply<br />
100%. please spread this note to all<br />
your contacts. ya friend MAV is off...<br />
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no name are looking for more members!<br />
maybe one of them are you!!<br />
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<br />
YUPPA SCENERS<br />
<br />
here's gigabyte/no name with a short<br />
note concerning the fact that we need<br />
loads of talented members to join, so if<br />
you're sort of interested in joining<br />
then grab a pen and write to..<br />
<br />
GIGABYTE OF NO NAME<br />
XXXXXXXXXXXX<br />
XXXXXXXXXXXX<br />
XXXXXXXXXXXX<br />
<br />
if you want an answer then enclose a<br />
disk with own work!<br />
<br />
100% reply is garanteed to everyone!<br />
<br />
come on, just write today, we need ya!<br />
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the last is another missing some contax<br />
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<br />
the authentic is here...<br />
<br />
i have had some long delays, but now i<br />
thought i was back for good!! i've sent<br />
back to ALL my contacts now, but i still<br />
don't get any sendings...strange, and it<br />
has been about a month since i sent out!<br />
and some even longer! so now i'm missing<br />
these dudes:<br />
<br />
hodory/craftmen doc stoned/afl<br />
anarchy/rsi lethal jack/extacy<br />
perish/system doxx/noice<br />
cruel/epic tchad/jam<br />
toft/hoaxers abbot/dig.designs<br />
stormlord/wow pete/acrise<br />
lynx/crossline devil/noice<br />
wozio/elysium spiderman/vision<br />
neotec/rebels dishy/vision<br />
freddie/vision cash/triad<br />
sleepwalker/ex-acy zore/vision<br />
spermbird/excess vain/??<br />
heavy head/vision awa/wow/tsr<br />
jason/motiv8 amarok/topaz<br />
nightshade/success leonardo/antia<br />
axe/slash designs dave/rebels<br />
pussymaster/trance elc/awt<br />
assailant/??? mmi/arcoss<br />
truss/excess borek(?)/xtc<br />
king fisher/triad mercury/rebels<br />
ritchie/ex-tnc roger/dragonball<br />
nightwanderer/lth therion/elysium<br />
chotaire/pandora mr.giga/astral<br />
oxidy/fairlight brightlight/no name<br />
caos/loa (?) scube/quintex<br />
exhibit/??? bumboo/jam<br />
crimen/??? dozo/ex-acy<br />
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if you really wanna swap, then send to<br />
this address:<br />
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THE AUTHENTIC/MANIAX/VAGABONDS<br />
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BIZ KID<br />
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