Mamba 14 ch02 The Interview
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the interviews
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yeah! we managed it again to get two
persons to the interview!
i'm sorry, there is no american been
interviewed, maybe next time two...
this time you can read some personals
about edwin van santen, and he proves
he is not that mean, some people in
amok insulted him for.
the second interview-partner is
the already wellknown bizzmo.the guy
from england gives a short review of
his shooting-career, enjoy both of
the interviews...
(press +)
m : hello edwin, can you give a short
introduction about your person,age
activities on computer etc..?
> : ok, my name is edwin van santen,
my age is 17 and i live in a town
near utrecht/holland called
montfoort. my main activity on
computer is making music and i
also do some coding. lately it's
very hard for me to find some
spare time, cause i am doing two
school-years in only 1 year...
that's the main reason why i did
not produce any music for a few
months, but now i am back to hit
the charts again...
m : in which group are you at the
moment, how did it all start and
what is your task ?
> : i'm not in any group for a long
time now, because i went 100%
legal over a year ago...
what i do is making music in falco
paul's player under the name 20cc
(20th century composers) or just
evs production... the start of
20cc was actually more than years
ago, the 17th of july 1988...
that's when i met falco. at that
time he was still a madsquad
member and busy coding a little
player. i started making some
tunes and from that moment, 20cc
was alive.
m : what were your former groups ??
> : well, let's start at the early
days when i just got my c64...
together with 2 locals i started a
little group called 'sec'. the
only thing we did was recracking
and using demomakers, as most
beginners do...a month ot 2 l8r,
another group joined and together
we formed 'the fourth dimension'.
that must have been around sept.
1987. me and another guy from tfd
joined the already better micronet
(former members of fire-eagle and
for example abs 3001). when micro-
net died, 3 joined the madsquad
and i met falco,paco and the other
guys. madsquad became bros and
that was when i met bambam (former
hotline-member). when bros died,
falco and i went legal and the
others continued with paninaro...
m : i think your music-group was built
when there was only one other
music-group, the maniacs of noise!
what do you think about them and
other upcoming music groups like
vibrants, reyn o., laxity, scs,
x-ample and others...
> : as you all know, maniacs of noise
don't produce any music on compu-
ters anymore since october 31st.
i mostly liked their music,
especially in the beginning. i
like reyn ouwehand's music very
much but reyn seems to have some-
thing against me and i don't know
why! to be honest i never heard
many laxity music, but i guess he
is ok. vibrants aren't that bad
too, but i like drax best from all
vibrants members.
the sidchip scratchers is a dif-
ferent story. i hate their noise
and that bozo 'guy shavitt' stole
falco's player and calls it his!
> : that's what i call lame!!!
about the x-ample sound dep.: send
me some x-amples of their work if
you have any... i don't have any
of'em yet!!!
an other guy i'd like to mention
is deek/g*p... about a year ago
(maybe longer) he sent me some of
his music, that was real shit, but
he improved very much and nowadays
he produces some real good work.
keep on going, richard! send me
some of your new work please!
m : it is said you do the best conver-
sations and echo-effects, but the
real breakthru, concerning games
m : didn't take place till now?! why?
is your price too high..? can
people expect your music in any
games soon?
> : that's a good question because un-
til now my music has only been in
3 games; dolphin force,no mercy
and city survivor... but at this
moment i'm busy making tunes for
some big disc-mags and 2 games
too!
about the prices; i don't want
that much money for music as most
people think...
there's always a possibility for
almost every budget! of course you
> : get the best and highest quality
music high-budget games!
if you out there are busy coding
a game and you need some high-
quality music then don't be
affraid to contact me... my adress
will follow later...
m : imagine a guy would approach you
and would ask for music. what
should he offer you to get it for
free?
> : well if he offers me something it
is not for free anymore, hehehe,
but seriously...
if he/she is friendly to me and
> : the music will be in a program
that's worth it, just send a pre-
view and a letter to me and every-
thing will work out...
some groups that could be able to
get some cool music for free are
(of coz) black mail - horizon -
cosmos design - hotline (hi side!)
- bonzai - etc,etc...
i'm also willing to make some mu-
sic for cool mags (like this one
for example) so gotcha, if you
need a tune, let me know! (i guess
that's what you were pointing at,
eh?)
(ed: no, no, it was said you are
difficult to get to the interview
and that's why i tried it,but feel
free do do one if you are good at
making 5-7 minute long tunes,...)
m : would you join a company that
offers you a job as a musician and
would you leave the scene?
> : if it's an attractive offer, of
course! i already got an offer
from a canadian company, but then
they want me to come over and i'm
not ready for that(yet!).
m : respect! ahm, you do the most mu-
sic, falco does only a little. is
he lazy or are you more talented?
> : it's not my position to give an
opinion about that, but i can say
that falco makes better stuff now
than in the beginning...
m : what do you think about disc ma-
gazines and especially about the
charts? do you think you are on
the right place?
> : i mostly like disc magazines, but
this except for most of the news.
in the news you find always things
like "..." left a group and joined
"...". i hate that stuff. who
cares about it!!??!!
> : about the charts: i don't think
any charts are correct. be serious
it's sooo easy to get in. if only
3 guys give you 8 points, you are
in the charts! and then 3 out of
all thousands of people in compu-
ter-land make objective charts???
look in the lamer-charts for
example! hahaha...
i'm proud of being voted there by
real lamers!
i know who they are now and there-
for i don't care. the only thing i
can do about this, is laughing at!
(same people know better...)
m : who are your friends in the scene,
who are your enemies? are you
looking up to someone?
> : well, of coz falco paul and i also
know the black mail members
pretty well, like ion-thunder-alf-
gaap-diart-buzz... they live only
30 miles away so that is not such
a problem too! also i still talk
to paco and bambam a lot and we go
out together. i also talk to some
dynamix-members and many many
americans, like rich/napalm, sonny
and cooky of mirage, etc etc...
about enemies: i don't care any-
more...
> : i won't say any bad words about
anyone anymore, since it's no use
at all ... so if you out there are
one of my enemies: let's shake
hands and forget (amok,crest).
m : what do you think about the ille-
gal scene? why aren't you illegal?
i know falco was once in paninaro,
were you a member too?
> : easy question, without the illegal
scene there wouldn't be any other
scene on 64 at all.
64 will live as long as there will
exist an illegal scene!
> : why i'm not illegal?? well because
i'm working for companies now and
i don't like swapping and cracking
games at all!
nope, i wasn't in paninaro, and
neither was falco. he was in the
member status, but never supported
the group, cause he went legal
already...
m : do you have a fvorite tune from
your group? what was the most
difficult,-best one you composed?
> : i personally like "paradise" which
is just released. i guess there's
always a progress in my music,
> : so i mostly like my newest tunes
best. all tunes were taking about
the same time to make, so i can't
say any music was difficult to
make.
m : what real music do you listen to?
> : nearly everything, i'm pretty open
minded to all music styles and i
think that is very important for
a musician.
m : what are your hobbies beside com-
puting?
> : i like going out with friends, to
amsterdam or utrecht for example.
m : the 'amok-scandal' lies far back,
are you mad about it anymore?
> : as i said before, i don't mind
anymore for what lies back. make
love, not war.
m : what do you think about parties,
(computer!)?
> : i love 'em! probably we will hit
for the denmark party in december
(dexion's) like we did last year!
(ed:look reports)
m : if you could change the scene or
computer-live (64),would ya?
> : yes, i would make software-compa-
nies put out more games again and
i would destroy all player zipping
lamers!
m : thank you, a last word...
> : i only want to send some greetings
to: all in black mail, falco, paco
ernst, j-w, ewin, bambam, judy
roland, sonja, hester, jeroen,
roy and all in dynamix, napalm
and members, the vibrants,deek
and....
> : if you need music, send a letter
and disc with preview to:
(edwin van santen)
evs productions
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
tel:XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
m : i changed only some words i got
stucked with and tried to find
the better word, the sense is
of coz not changed, ok
see ya eddy!
...our second interview, with bizzmo
of genesis project...
m : mamba
> : bizzmo
let's start...
m : hi bizz, ok, at first i wanna
know what kind of person you are.
> : my name is douglas roberts, i'm
19 years old and i live in sou-
thern england. i have a full-time
job as a computer manager for a
civil engineering company. i've
two cats and a bucket full of
> : assorted tropical fishes (pets!).
m : did you ever have this talent to
draw? can you also draw on paper?
how did it all start and how did
you came into scene 64?
> : yes i've always been artistically
inclined. i can draw on paper,but
not as well as i can on computer.
64 life, and my interest in com-
puter art started quite a few
years back when i joined compunet
and seen the art that was being
uploaded by people like dokk,
hugh riley and bob stevenson. i
was impressed and thought i'd
> : have a go!
m : do you look up to anyone?
do you have any favorite drawers/
painters (paper/64/amiga/else..)?
> : i admire dokk's graphics on c64
and also bob stevenson's.
on paper i like fantasy artists
like boris vallejo and tim white.
m : why/how did you join gp? what is
your former existing like? is it
true gp made you famous?
> : when compunet seemed to be dying
off, the european scene was still
> : pretty active. at this time scrap
of genesis project asked deek if
he, tdm and i would join. joining
gp gave me a lot more exposure
on the european scene.
m : what do you think about other
people using your graphics in
demos?
> : i don't mind as long as they
don't get completely mutilated.
i also like to be credited.
m : for which games have you drawn?
what do you usually draw for a
game? have you earned something?
> : as i work full-time, i have no
time for doing graphics for a
game.
m : do you copy from other paintings
(on paper) or is anything you've
drawn out of your mind?
> : mostly my pictures are inspired
by the aforementioned fantasy
artists, although some are com-
pletely original.
m : what hobbies do you have beside
computing? girlfriend?
> : nothing worth mentioning.
m : who is your friend in the scene?
have you enemies? whom would you
like to know?
> : my closest friends are deek, tdm,
falcon, gez. i have no enemies
yet. i'd like to know dokk.
m : a good graphic-artist asks you to
build up a graphix-group to give
di-art a kick into their ass,
would you agree or would you stay
single?
> : i'd stay single.
m : were there people who said once:
"hey doug, you can't draw, give
it up!"? were they only jealous?
how did you react? or do you know
that feeling when people said:
"hey that's ridiculous, a wonder"
and you just thought, it would be
a daily picture...
> : i've never been criticised by
anyone that i know of...
m : what do you think about your
chart-position?
> : ok, i suppose, but i schouldn't
have to compete against groups
> : of artists when i'm only one
person.
m : what are your favourites ?
> : - food : pizza
- drink : dr. pepper
- demo : too many to mention
- game : supremacy (amiga)
- movie : the thing
- girl-type: human
- others : ?!?!
m : in which routine do you draw?
what do you draw?
> : i use artist 64 for my bitmap
pics, sprite processor for
sprites, logo-editor for logos,
and 3 in 1 editor if i'm doing
charsets.
m : imagine, deek or/and tdm would
quit the scene! what would be yar
step? would you continue?
> : probably not!
m : what are your further plans?
(future...)
> : to release a demo.
m : ok, thank you doug, some last
words/greetings from you to other
people...
> : hi to deek, tdm, falcon, gez,
the others in system 6581, crest,
bjorn rostoen, amok, jch, raist-
lin, telemachus and the other
genesis project members...
m : yo! keep the stuff going, see
ya doug...
later!!!
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