Brutal Recall 11 ch19

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do ya think that the c64 is the ultimate
  computer,or do you prefer the amiga?

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this question is of big importance in
  the scene of today!!
  lots of guys leave the c64 for the
  amiga,but another big part of us,does
  not believe in the amiga at all and
  even call it lamiga!!
  what is the reason for the amiga and
  c64 being so related to eachother?!?
  you hardly hear anything about the
  'battle' between the c64 and pc or any
  other computers!!
  the c64 and amiga are not at all the
  same kind of computers as the c64 is a
  'simple' 8-bit machine and the amiga a
  16-bitter!!  still it seems that the
  amiga is c64's big brother!!
  maybe that is because they are both
  commodore productions.  it is true
  that once the c64 was an incredible
  machine,and also the amiga was a big
  break through!  nowadays lots of beter
  computers are available,but still the
  good old c64 is alive and kicking!!
  the amiga is at the moment going tru
  the same period as once the c64 was...
  the time of an enormous amount of
  games...  but allready the amiga is
  going down too!!  the world of games
  seems to be taken over by hand-helds
  and consoles!  i won't go deeper into
  this movement,but it seems like that
  the amiga is also about to start on
  its way to death!!
  and 'death' is what lots of people
  talk about,when they think about the
  c64!!  they think it had its time and
  that it'll die within 1 year!!
  but people allready say these things
  since a couple of years,but the scene
  is still alive and kicking!!
  maybe there is something about this
  little machine that people miss on the
  other 'better' machines...
  some say the code,graphics and music
  is better on the amiga,but just check
  out the abilities of both machines...
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item           commodore 64    amiga
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type              8-bit       16-bit
colors             16          4096
memory            64kb     500kb or more
sound            3 ways    4 ways stereo
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also the amiga is much faster than the
  c64 so more and faster routines can be
  programmed!!
  the pixels on amiga are much smaller
  than on c64 so details can be drawn
  perfectly. also the amount of colors
  make that you can draw more vivid on
  amiga... still great pictures are
  being drawn on c64 and we're improving
  a lot...
  also the coding is not that far behind
  off the amiga!
  rubber filled vector,masses of dots,
  overlace,raytracing...it's all here!!
  nobody thought the c64 could do any of
  these things!!!
  and with all those fli editors it's
  possible to use all 16 colors in 1
  cursor!!!
  the music is,in my opinion,much better
  on c64,as on the amiga all is just
  some piano banging,while on the c64
  lots of great,weird,instruments are
  being used!!  ofcourse there are also
  great tunes on amiga,but the overall
  is pretty bah...
  the demoscene on amiga looks very
  boring to me!!    in every demo you
  see the same...  fast vector shit,star
  screens,plasma,madcap cycles and....
  but the thing that shocks me more is
  the fact that there are hardly any
  cool charsets on the amiga!!!
  most of them are so ugly that even
  chars from 1985 on c64 look better!!
  also a lot of logos are fucking ugly!
  the best graphics are the,digitised,
  ham-pictures!!  they really kick ass!!
  also "skid row" has one hell of a good
  logo,also "vision" with 'hein design'
  (yep,the c64 painter!!) has great
  logos!!   for the rest i'm pretty
  disappointed about the graphics...
  on c64 there seem to be a new rage in
  the demo-world!!
  'design' and 'style' are the mainwords
  in todays demo-scene!!
  a very good example is "dutch breeze"
  from 'blackmail'!!
  it took 3 years,but it was worth
  waiting for!!
  okay,before i end this,i'll print the
  letter that made me write this text...
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 the scene
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 why do all complain about the amiga,
 while still 50 % leaves for it ?

 why is the amiga-scene so bad, and
 the c64 scene so great ?

 why don't people realise that the
 amiga is better, no matter what people
 say ?

 this is cam of atlantis with an
 article about the c64 and amiga-scene.

 well.. first of all!  i'm in both the
 scenes,so i should know the difference!

 o.k. ..

 many people on the amiga say that the
 c64 is so bad, but this aint true!
 the c64 is a great machine, and you can
 find a lot of nice people there.

 and on the c64, people say the same
 about the amiga. but this aint true
 either.. the amiga is also a great
 machine, and believe me.. the scene
 there isn't worse then on the c64,and
 no matter what you say, i still think
 that the scene on the c64 is good.

 well.. here is what i think should be
 done to make both the scenes better !

 first of all.. stop all wars on both
 machines.. oh god, they are so lame !

 to the c64-scene: stop talking shit
 about amiga, and realise that the
 graphics and code is better there.
 (but still.. stay calm on the c64 !!)..

 to the amiga scene: stop talking shit
 about the c64 scene.. and realise that
 the music is better on c64, still
 the instruments are better on the
 amiga. don't think that the c64 is
 so bad, because it aint !

 and people.. stop cracking 50 %, and
 start making good demos instead.

 remember.. it's better to make one
 demo a year, that is original.. with
 good code, graphics and music.. then
 to make ten that suck !

 why do all complain about mags being
 so lame, but still.. almost everyone
 has one?  i like mags, and atleast
 mags are ten times better as cracks !

 well.. i know that i haven't expressed
 myself so good in this article, but
 i hope you get my point !

 thanks for reading it !
                            c64
        IJK           cam of atlantis
     LMNOPQ
     RSTUVW                amiga
                    dee-lite of atomic.
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some comments to the letter...
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first of all i want to thank you for
  sending it to us!!
  okay,i don't think 50% leaves for the
  amiga,maybe 10% but not much more!!
  the amount of wars on the c64 is very
  low nowadays,as the last big war i can
  recall,was the one between censor and
  fairlight,the 'aaaa'=all agains aaron!
  this was a real war!!  what people
  nowadays think when they hear the word
  'war' is,two groups telling shit about
  eachother..   what a war!!
  reduce cracking till 50% won't bring
  much more demos out,as mostly crackers
  don't code,paint or compose!!!
  mags have become a part of the scene,
  and just as there are good and bad
  demos,there are good and bad mags!!
  does anyone complain about bad demos?!
  so why complain about bad mags?!?
  if they are bad enough,nobody will
  support it and it will stop by itself!
  well,that was all i wanted to write
  for now...
  till next issue!!
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