Propaganda 01 ch09
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.. GAMERS GUIDE OR LAMERS GUIDE ..
\/ GAMERS GUIDE OR LAMERS GUIDE /\
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Many 'facts' in TRIAD's "GAMERS GUIDE"
are obviously wrong... They print wrong
amount of trainers,wrong block-lengths,
and mess up most First Releases...
The worst thing is,they do not seem to
bother too much about correcting any of
the many mistakes they print! So,what
the heck is that GAMERS GUIDE good for
anyway? I mean,you can never be sure if
the datas you read in there are true or
not unless you see the games yourself...
But,if you see all the versions by your-
self,then what do you need a guide for?
Many people say that so-called GAMERS
'GUIDE' is nothing but hidden(?) TRIAD-
propaganda (There we go again!) because
the way they list up all the cracked
versions is based on the length. So,the
shortest version is on top,followed by
all other (better?!) versions... In fact
TRIAD does not use intros in the common
sense but boring gray screens that look
more like a cruelcrunch-depack-textline
rather than a real intro. They actually
do not even write any greetings or any-
thing similar to keep their scrollers as
short as possible. They excuse these bad
intros with the fact that the legendary
TRIAD of the past always used very short
intros aswell. Humm... That's true...
But that old mini-intro looked cool at
least! It had some colors flashing thru
and both MR.Z and JANITOR wrote pretty
funny scroll-texts about 'ship wrecking
pirates' and the like. Today's TRIAD use
these short intros(?) because they have
no excellent crackers who can really do
an outstanding version,so if they can't
do very FAST or very GOOD cracks then
they try to have very SHORT cracks at
least... Imagine they would use a real
intro for once... Their cracks wouldn't
be any better than a crack of any other
average cracking group,because their
cracks are not short due to any special
abilities but simply because they use
their gray 'depack-text-intros'. JERRY
says they don't pack their intros,so the
difference between cracks with LONG but
PACKED intros and cracks with SHORT and
UNPACKED intros is minimal... Well,then
why do TRIAD never use real intros?!?
Now,don't tell me that 'tradition-shit'
again! Where's the tradition? Either you
stick to your tradition and use the same
old intro in front of every crack or you
use several new intros (Like TRIAD do!).
Just,all their new intros are short,be-
cause they use no colors,no scrolltexts,
no nothing. Big deal!
And if GAMERS GUIDE really is supposed
to be fair,why do they list the versions
in order of block-length rather than the
amount of trainers or files or whatever?
In fact the only fair way to list up all
the versions would be to list them up in
alphabetical order! And why don't they
do that? Simply because then TRIAD would
not appear on top of the list anymore...
Nobody would recognize their versions.
Really annoying is the way they mess up
the "First Releases". They never really
credit the group with the real First Re-
lease but credit anyone for a First Re-
lease who claims so in his intro. Just
write into your intro-scroller you have
a First Release and -BANG- you will get
the credits for it in that GAMERS GUIDE!
JERRY says a First Release doesn't count
anyway. Well,sure... Easy for him to say
as TRIAD are not able to have a decent
First Release! Their cracks are neither
fast nor good... Just short. Great!
JERRY is always complaining that every-
body is ragging on GAMERS GUIDE but no-
body tells him how to do things better.
I tried to... But instead of listening
to what I have to say he yelled around
and finally hung up on me. Gee... JERRY,
you really know how to treat people! All
I tried to do was to give you a helping
hand... No wonder you 48 years old jerk
got no job,if that's the way you deal
with constructive critizism.
CENSOR,LEGEND,ACTION,VICTIMS,X-RAY,G*P
and maany others say GAMERS GUIDE sucks!
So JERRY,don't you think it's time for a
change?! The basic idea of GAMERS GUIDE
is OK... Just,it all depends on proper
datas,so what is a guide good for if the
datas are all wrong? And if you are not
able to get the datas right,don't you
think you are the wrong person (group)
to do such a guide? Think about it!
ANTICHRIST
DEMO REVIEWS
DEMO REVIEWS
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WELCOME TO THE DEMO-REVIEWS!
IT WOULD BE STUPID IF I'D REVIEW DEMOS
AS I DO NOT REALLY KNOW MUCH ABOUT THEM.
(NEITHER DID JACK DANIELS OR 3DK...) SO,
I WILL LEAVE THAT TO SES AND SCRAP. THEY
ARE BOTH VERY GOOD GRAPHIC-ARTISTS AND
CODERS. HOWEVER,LOOONG TEXTS THAT REVIEW
EVERY LITTLE PART OF ALL DEMOS IN DETAIL
WOULD BE PRETTY BORING AFTER A WHILE...
SO,WE DECIDED TO KEEP THINGS STRAIGHT:
ON THE NEXT PAGES YOU WILL FIND BRIEF
REVIEWS OF THE LATEST DEMOS,INCLUDING
THE TITLE,A SHORT COMMENT AND FINALLY
OUR BIG BAD HEAVY HEAVY MONSTER RATING!
"MY OH MY" FROM LIGHT
MY,OH MY. FROM LIGHT
A typical LIGHT-Demo: Terrible graphics
but great coding! Very nice realtime-
filled-4-colour-vector-graphics in the
last part...
CODE. **
CODE. \/
MUSIC. ..
MUSIC. --
DESIGN. ..
DESIGN. /\
GRAPHIC. ..
GRAPHIC. ><
OVERALL. ..
OVERALL. \/ SCRAP
"PARANOIA" FROM AKRAK
PARANOIA FROM AKRAK
Well,the best thing about this demo was
the music... And the music was ripped!
Their so-called 32 chars in DXYCP were
just 8 lame flickering sprites... And
the poor pseudo-strecher was simply
ridiculous. Sorry...
SCRAP says: CODE. ..
CODE. ><
MUSIC. ..
MUSIC. -- (ripped)
DESIGN. ..
DESIGN. /\
GRAPHIC. ..
GRAPHIC. ><
OVERALL. ..
OVERALL. >< SCRAP
"BREATHLESS" FROM HOAXERS
BREATHLESS FROM HOAXERS
In this demo you can see a flickering
"tube-scroll",a 2x2 DYPP which is only
1O chars wide,a very nice strech-scroll
and a sinus-scroll that looks similar to
the sinus-scroller in NETWORK's demo...
Pretty weird!
CODE. ..
CODE. --
MUSIC. ..
MUSIC. -- (ripped)
DESIGN. ..
DESIGN. /\
GRAPHIC. ..
GRAPHIC. /\
OVERALL. ..
OVERALL -- SCRAP
"HEART AND SOUL" FROM T'PAU
HEART AND SOUL FROM T PAU
This demo only containes 2 parts... But
those are well styled,although neither
the code nor the graphics are that good
really. The intro contains a funny zoom-
effect while the mainpart is a videolike
mixture of different animated graphics.
CODE. ..
CODE. /\
MUSIC. ..
MUSIC. \/
DESIGN. **
DESIGN. \/
GRAPHIC. ..
GRAPHIC. --
OVERALL. ..
OVERALL. \/ SCRAP
"LETHAL DISPLAY" FROM BONZAI
LETHAL DISPLAY FROM BONZAI
They had some nice ideas,but most of the
graphics (=logos) were rather poor and
the code was nothing special either...
Anyway... The interlaced pictures were
pretty cool. And some great musics!
CODE. ..
CODE. --
MUSIC. **
MUSIC. \/
DESIGN. ..
DESIGN. --
GRAPHIC. ..
GRAPHIC. /\
OVERALL. ..
OVERALL. -- SCRAP
"DEELITE" FROM THE RULING COMPANY
DEELITE FROM THE RULING COMPANY
You didn't see it?! Well... You didn't
really miss anything. It's meant to be
only a graphics demo,but the graphics
are nothing more than average... What
more do I have to say?
CODE. ..
CODE. ><
MUSIC. ..
MUSIC. -- (ripped)
DESIGN. ..
DESIGN. /\
GRAPHIC. ..
GRAPHIC. /\
OVERALL. ..
OVERALL. /\ SCRAP
"WONDERLAND" FROM CENSOR
WONDERLAND FROM CENSOR
My absolute favourite this month! Funny
cartoonlike intro,a weird 2x2 DYCP,well
mixed digis,cool graphics,sex...
What more do you want?!
CODE. ..
CODE. \/
MUSIC. ..
MUSIC. \/
DESIGN. **
DESIGN. \/
GRAPHIC. **
GRAPHIC. \/
OVERALL. **
OVERALL. \/ SCRAP
"NYMPHOMANIA" FROM NETWORK
NYMPHOMANIA FROM NETWORK
They made some nice routines like a 12
chars high FLI-scroller and a bending
sinus-scroller (The one that looks so
much like the one in HOAXERS's demo!)
But NETWORK said this demo was only a
"warming up"... So,let's wait and see!
CODE. ..
CODE. --
MUSIC. ..
MUSIC. --
DESIGN. ..
DESIGN. --
GRAPHIC. ..
GRAPHIC. --
OVERALL. ..
OVERALL. -- SCRAP
"TYRANNY FOR YOU" FROM VICTIMS
TYRANNY FOR YOU FROM VICTIMS
Gosh! This demo is baaaaaaaaaaad! TRONIC
didn't even bother installing new logos,
so you still see old PARAMOUNT-graphics.
Frankly there is NOTHING good about this
"DEMO". What does it DEMOnstrate?
CODE. ..
CODE. ><
MUSIC. ..
MUSIC. -- (ripped)
DESIGN. ..
DESIGN. /\
GRAPHIC. ..
GRAPHIC. ><
OVERALL. ..
OVERALL. ><
SPHERICAL DESIGNS PARTY
SPHERICAL DESIGNS PARTY
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THIS PARTY TOOK PLACE IN A TOWN CALLED
BOCHOLT,IN WEST GERMANY. PARTY PLACE WAS
THE KOLPINGHAUS,WHERE THE PARTY TOOK
PLACE IN ONE OF THE HALLS. THE PARTY
STARTED AT 13:30 AND ENDED AT 19:00.
(THAT IS WHT I GUESS,I LEFT AT 16:30)
So,they proclaimed the party as some
sort of concurrence for the Dutch VENLO
meeting (That's what you could read on
the invitation they sent to some PLK's,
stamped with 5 PF [LAAAME!]. One should
have substracted the surcharge from the
price at the entrance!). Anyway, as far
as I remember they took 5 German marks.
"Hmmm, no BIG deal to beat VENLO in any
way since the VENLO-meeting still keeps
growing LAMER everytime it takes place",
I thought. But... GUESS WHAT?!
Right! The meeting really turned out to
be even WORSE than Venlo since:
A) It was more overcrowded with Amigas.
B) The room was much smaller.
C) The people arrived were more unknown.
D) The mood was sort of crappy alltime.
Few real coolies showed up,and there
wasn't any way to get something to eat
or to drink at least.
Also a demo competition was held,but I
have to admit I didn't get the results,
coz I was bored and prefered home.
I don't know, maybe the party was a big
event for the Amiga freax,but surely not
for us 64'ers.
But, Spherical Designs promised to take
another room for the next meeting,so
let's check it out the next month!
RATING FOR THE JULY MEETING IS ..
RATING FOR THE JULY MEETING IS ><
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JIHAD of ACTION
RADWAR PARTY CLASSIC
RADWAR PARTY CLASSIC
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THIS PARTY TOOK PLACE IN HEINSBERG, WEST
GERMANY,LIKE USUAL. THE PARTY PLACE WAS
A NICE DISCOTHEQUE CALLED "CHEZ RENZO".
ONE THING IN COMMON: THIS PARTY COULD
HAVE BEEN THE BIGGEST SUCCESS EVER,BUT
DUE TO THE LAZYNESS OF SOME PEOPLE,IT
FAILED DEEPLY. THE PARTY OF COURSE STAR-
TED AT 19:41 AND HAD AN OPEN END...
So, we arrived a bit to early at the
party place and started boozing.
It already seemed like lots of fun. Some
Bavarians arrived in original clothing
(Lederhosen, Bayernhut and so on). They
offered royal snuff and a drink called
SCHINKENHAEGER. One guy had even arrived
from the border to Poland!
They opened the entrance at 19:41,and
we sneeked in. Inside,$FE/TLI sold the
tickets and Guenther Freiherr von Graven
reuth (The so-called cracker-hunter!)
passed over some tickets for a tombola.
You could get every drink you want,you
could sit down or hang around or dance
or have tequillas or whatever you wanted
to do... Enough room,dancefloor,bar...
The things that usually make you happy!
MWS also organized some Skaters,some
Kung Fu artists and a live Rap-Band.
So far the really good organization.
The rest was up to the GUESTS now...
And that was the problem! MWS tried to
get some real old legends like ANTIRAM,
DYNAMIC DUO,711 and so on to come to
have a last big celebration altogether,
but nearly noone followed the invitati-
on. Also the nowadays-coolies were rare,
many promised to come,few did. Some cool
people were there though... MR.ZEROPAGE,
TYGER/G*P,some ACTION members etc.
Anyway,we all tried to get the best out
of it,and had some fun when the Rap men
started their show. They had some probs
with their PA (sound equipment) and it
always went 'KRRRRRK Krrrraaaaaakkkkk'
whenever the leader tried to sing. Due
to this,most of the audience wished that
the band played in Alaska instead...
(Maybe in "ABANDONED IGLO",who knows?)
To keep it short finally: This party
COULD have made history,but due to the
lack of people,it did not get REAL
started. That's not the fault of MWS,
it's mainly YOUR fault,where have YOU
been for example,dear reader???
RATING IS ..
RATING IS --
Jihad of Action
BIG BAD HEAVY HEAVY MONSTER QUIZ
BIG BAD HEAVY HEAVY MONSTER QUIZ
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On the following pages you will find 21
questions and various answers based on
the multiple choice system. Send the
answers to your local PROPAGANDA hero!
We even have three big bad heavy heavy
monster prices for the winners...
1. A dinner with a lamer of your choice!
2. A GOTCHA-poster (Yeuch! I'd rather
take the third price then...)
3. Ein matschiges Fisch-Staebchen!
1. WHAT DO THESE PEOPLE HAVE IN COMMON?
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Exory/Holocaust,Martin+Christian/Manowar
Lucky/Radius,Infinity,Gotcha,Alphaflight
Moskwa TV,Ruthless,Enjoy/Bonzai,Bloods,
Aaron/Failright,Transcom,Sting/Enigma,
Narc+Anthrax/Legend,Parson,Smasher/F4CG
A) They are L-A-M-E!!!
B) They are bigmouthed wannabes
C) Who are these people anyway?!
2. WHAT ACTUALLY IS A FISCH-STAEBCHEN?
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A) A fish-stick!
B) A fish's dick?
C) A new car?!?
3. WHO IS THE BEST RECRACKER?
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A) Exory-Dystan/Holocaust ..
B) The "Bloods" gang /\
C) Enjoy of Bonzai .. ..
D) Wildcat of ICS /\ ><
4. WHAT REALLY IS "BAD TASTE"?
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A) The low budget label of GENESIS
B) The NUMERO UNO worrrldwide!
C) A funny splatter movie
D) My only decent contact
5. WHAT DOES "FLT" STAND FOR?
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A) Faglight
B) Fairlame
C) Failright
D) Flexible Line Distance
6. WHO OF THESE IS NOT A LOW BUDGET?
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A) Bad Taste (Genesis*Project)
B) Geordie Kraking Group (Dominators)
C) China Syndrom (Legend)
D) Wicked (Ikari+Talent)
E) Lamers'R Us (NEI)
F) Spalterz (Action)
G) Burp (Empire)
H) Verdict
Not easy,eh?!
7. WHAT IS THE NAME OF NEI'S LOW BUDGET?
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A) Lamers'R Us **
B) Empire \/
That's a hard one!
8. "PROPAGANDA" IS...
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A) the beeeeest!
B) a big bad heavy heavy monster mag!
C) the one and only disk RAGazine...
D) better than any telephone-book
E) digital toilet-paper
9. WHAT IS ANTITRACK FAMOUS FOR?
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A) Austria's best (only!) cracker
B) Taub wie ein Wiener Schnitzel!
C) He is deaf!
D) Er is'doof!
E) His hearing aid is much bigger than
his rotten little brain...
F) He won the first price at the
Handicap-Olympics in 1988
G) Whenever he's on a conferrence you
have to shout like hell!
10. WHAT IS "TRANSCOM"?
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A) An international telephone company?
B) A bundle of bigmouthed losers!
C) Something to eat?
D) A dead group!
11. WHAT IS GOTCHA?
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A) A musician? C) A coder?
B) A swapper? D) A blind cripple!
12. WHAT DOES "OMG" STAND FOR?
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A) One Man Gang
B) Oh,mein Gebieter!
C) Oliver motzt gerne.
D) Oliver manages GENESIS
E) Herr Mueller-Luedenscheid
13. WHO IS ANTICHRIST?
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A) Me,myself and I
B) OMG,Scrap,Snacky,Goblin etc.
C) C64's most famous celebrity!?!
14. WHAT IS THE PROPER WAY TO PRONOUNCE
"XADES SOCIETY"?
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A) Saids Soceieti
B) Xaadis Zozeieti
C) Action!
15. CHOOSE A SYNONYM FOR "GENESIS"!
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A) The true number one worrrrldwide!
B) The subgroup of BAD TASTE?!
C) Gods!
16. WHO IS THE LEADER OF GENESIS?
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A) Infinity?!
B) Antichrist
C) Donald Duck
D) Phil Collins
17. WHO IS THE #1 IN AMERICA?
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A) DEMONIX **
B) DOUBLECROSS \/
18. WHY DO NARC AND ANTHRAX KEEP ON
CLAIMING THAT ARROGANCE IS A GAY?
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A) They try to cover up their own
homosexuality!
B) They are hunting for a fresh ass!?!
C) "Gay" is all they have left to say
when they run out of arguments...
19. WHAT IS STING'S NEW HANDLE?
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A) Stink
B) Pinocchio **
C) Zwerg Nase \/
D) RDB (Ripping Dwarf Bignose)
20. ALPHAFLIGHT GOT A SLOGAN. WHICH ONE?
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A) This flight will never start
B) Genetic waste at its best
C) Help! We are lame!
21. WHO IS MR.MICKEY MOUSE?
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A) Magic Man
B) Infinity
C) 3DK
