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		<title>Ymgve at 14:10, 22 June 2007</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    what does this scene consist&lt;br /&gt;
of? it consists of lots of groups.&lt;br /&gt;
what do these groups consist of?&lt;br /&gt;
they consist of members.what do&lt;br /&gt;
these members do,then? they work&lt;br /&gt;
and try to do their best on their&lt;br /&gt;
jobs.why on the earth,do i use the&lt;br /&gt;
word 'they'? all of us are the&lt;br /&gt;
members of this scene.so better i&lt;br /&gt;
use 'we',i think.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    why do we try to produce some-&lt;br /&gt;
thing? is it for entertaining our-&lt;br /&gt;
selves? yes.is it for seeing what&lt;br /&gt;
can we able to do? yes.is it for&lt;br /&gt;
fun? yes.is it for seeing if we a-&lt;br /&gt;
re better or worser than the ot-&lt;br /&gt;
hers? yes.these questions can be&lt;br /&gt;
followed with more and more ques-&lt;br /&gt;
tions.but lets talk about the last&lt;br /&gt;
one.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    what is the way of seeing that&lt;br /&gt;
the place of you in the scene? yes&lt;br /&gt;
its answer is very simple. it is&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
the charts.as you know,every mag.&lt;br /&gt;
has charts.some vote-sheets are&lt;br /&gt;
spreaded and the votes are calcu-&lt;br /&gt;
lated.the charts are made after&lt;br /&gt;
calculation.but although there a-&lt;br /&gt;
re not much changes,the charts&lt;br /&gt;
differ from mag to mag.i think its&lt;br /&gt;
cause is that every mag has a dif-&lt;br /&gt;
ferent reader-status.sometimes&lt;br /&gt;
there are very big differings.you&lt;br /&gt;
can see something in top 10 in one&lt;br /&gt;
mag and not at top 30 in another.&lt;br /&gt;
now here is an article and sugges-&lt;br /&gt;
tions written by the freak/rebels&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
about  the charts.here is what he&lt;br /&gt;
says:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;   i have read  the article votes&lt;br /&gt;
in brutal  recall 8 and would like&lt;br /&gt;
to give following comment.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    fact is that  every magazine&lt;br /&gt;
publishes  its own votesheets and&lt;br /&gt;
charts, and everybody  should know&lt;br /&gt;
that none of them  are really ob-&lt;br /&gt;
jective.therefore i wonder whether&lt;br /&gt;
the scene,i.e. we do really want&lt;br /&gt;
objective and unbiased charts? i&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
for myself,and i am certainly not&lt;br /&gt;
alone with this request,want to&lt;br /&gt;
see objective and uncheated charts&lt;br /&gt;
the idea with the country votes&lt;br /&gt;
was a first step towards this di-&lt;br /&gt;
rection.therefore,i have worked o-&lt;br /&gt;
ut a new suggestion which,however,&lt;br /&gt;
requires tolerance and cooperation&lt;br /&gt;
by each group publishing a magazi-&lt;br /&gt;
ne.i suggest to proceed as follows&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    each group continues to send&lt;br /&gt;
out its votesheets to its contacts&lt;br /&gt;
but the voters do not return their&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
votesheets to the respective gro-&lt;br /&gt;
ups but they send them to a cent-&lt;br /&gt;
ral place where all the votesheets&lt;br /&gt;
are collected (somewhere in euro-&lt;br /&gt;
pe) and this central place is of&lt;br /&gt;
coz neutral,i.e. it does not par-&lt;br /&gt;
ticipate in any voting and doesn't&lt;br /&gt;
publish a mag.this central place&lt;br /&gt;
evaluates the votesheets and dis-&lt;br /&gt;
tributes the results to all maga-&lt;br /&gt;
zines.afterwards,the votesheets&lt;br /&gt;
will be returned to the individual&lt;br /&gt;
groups so that they know who has&lt;br /&gt;
filled out their votesheets,for&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
publication of the adresses,etc.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    of course, it  would also be&lt;br /&gt;
possible  to organize a  central&lt;br /&gt;
place  for each individual country&lt;br /&gt;
like it is for the music charts of&lt;br /&gt;
the european countries,and a supe-&lt;br /&gt;
rior place will then publish all&lt;br /&gt;
euro charts.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    i really wonder if we all to-&lt;br /&gt;
gether will be able to achieve so-&lt;br /&gt;
mething difficult but worthwhile.&lt;br /&gt;
this would really be a good achie-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
vement. to program  a demo or to&lt;br /&gt;
crack a program is something which&lt;br /&gt;
can be achieved by everybody with&lt;br /&gt;
some efforts.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    you have read some suggestions&lt;br /&gt;
about the charts.infact,it is not&lt;br /&gt;
a bad idea.but my thought is that&lt;br /&gt;
if something like this is done,&lt;br /&gt;
then there will be no need to send&lt;br /&gt;
the results to the magazines.it is&lt;br /&gt;
better to publish a mag only con-&lt;br /&gt;
sist of the results.but this mag&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
must have  no group.according to&lt;br /&gt;
me  it is nonsense  to publish the&lt;br /&gt;
same  results in the magazines as&lt;br /&gt;
these  will be  the same-text.this&lt;br /&gt;
is what i think.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    you learned what i think? do&lt;br /&gt;
you want to publish your thoughts&lt;br /&gt;
too.then send a reaction to us and&lt;br /&gt;
support this magazine.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                   signed:falcon&lt;br /&gt;
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