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		<title>Ymgve at 17:28, 29 November 2007</title>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;Fasten your seatbelts-The Cupid Corner&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It's time for some action once again, time to share&lt;br /&gt;
some opinions with you out there, time to get rid of&lt;br /&gt;
some nuisances and generally to give you some in-&lt;br /&gt;
sight into my mind's eye, in other words, time for the&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CUPID CORNER&lt;br /&gt;
CUPID CORNER&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Let's start the easy way:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
WHO THE FUCK NEEDS BIG HEADLINES?&lt;br /&gt;
WHO THE FUCK NEEDS BIG HEADLINES&lt;br /&gt;
(This one for you, Per :))&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Now,let's start over with something that came as a&lt;br /&gt;
shock for me lately, as it turned out to be an ava-&lt;br /&gt;
lanche-like thing more than a small change:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
THE END OF MEGASWAPPING?&lt;br /&gt;
-----------------------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
First in a row was Calypso dropping   contacts, follow-&lt;br /&gt;
ed by Spermbird, Intruder and Derbyshire Ram. Now,&lt;br /&gt;
Splatterhead is also considering strongly to drop&lt;br /&gt;
most of his contacts, and what does this leave us&lt;br /&gt;
with? It seems the big aera of megaswapping ceased&lt;br /&gt;
to exist lately, gone are the times where people did&lt;br /&gt;
struggle through hundreds of packs per year just to&lt;br /&gt;
keep the flow streaming. Sure, some facts may be ri-&lt;br /&gt;
sing porto costs, job-related changes, growing up,&lt;br /&gt;
and post-busts, but sometimes it is also nothing but&lt;br /&gt;
mere boredom. I personally never intended to be a&lt;br /&gt;
megaswapper, I never considered it a good time for&lt;br /&gt;
me spending ages answering sendings, writing ad-&lt;br /&gt;
resses and even more copying and assembling the&lt;br /&gt;
spreaddiscs, and yet I do really appreciate guys&lt;br /&gt;
doing so. Being a megaswapper does not only mean&lt;br /&gt;
answering your sendings, it also aquires some sort&lt;br /&gt;
of correct timing I do not bear, to be open. What do I&lt;br /&gt;
mean by this? Now, just imagine having 150 contacts&lt;br /&gt;
where approximately 70 cheat their stamps, just try&lt;br /&gt;
to keep track of the correct stamp for your contact&lt;br /&gt;
to send back. Or try to find a wanted tool on this&lt;br /&gt;
huge heap of disks. There you go...&lt;br /&gt;
So, next time some people should better consider for&lt;br /&gt;
a slight period more before they claim to be a mega-&lt;br /&gt;
swapper...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Well, of course there are still some guys that amaze&lt;br /&gt;
me with their efforts, like Shuze. He does have some&lt;br /&gt;
contacts over 100 and yet he does not claim himself&lt;br /&gt;
to be a megaswapper. He writes long personal notes,&lt;br /&gt;
tries to send quality stuff rather than speed-warez,&lt;br /&gt;
works as an orrie-supplier, and even works as an&lt;br /&gt;
overactive editor for the mag you're just reading!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Well, nevertheless megaswapping these days lost all&lt;br /&gt;
the glory it had some years back, having more and&lt;br /&gt;
more guys just pretending to be megaswappers, while&lt;br /&gt;
they just do nothing but contact guys and wait for&lt;br /&gt;
an answer to put them into their contact list...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All in all it seems as if the old concept of  megaswap-&lt;br /&gt;
ping fails to work in these days, and more and more&lt;br /&gt;
guys realise this and draw their own consequences...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Old Legends recruiting new blood...!&lt;br /&gt;
------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Well, one thing, that really got on my nerves lately&lt;br /&gt;
was, that a lot of old and legendary groups take in&lt;br /&gt;
rather new and strange members, just because they&lt;br /&gt;
met them on the net or alikes. Take for example   Fair-&lt;br /&gt;
light, one of my all time favourite groups, and their&lt;br /&gt;
recent sign-ups. I do not mumble about Moonchild&lt;br /&gt;
(Check -SILENT STARS for details), but about Diverse&lt;br /&gt;
and McGyver(!). What do guys like this ex-Nephilim&lt;br /&gt;
and an ex-Airwolf Team member have to be  conside-&lt;br /&gt;
red good enough to join forces of one of the might-&lt;br /&gt;
iest group in the old days? It seems as if the  leaders&lt;br /&gt;
of FLT lost their correct viewpoint due to their ab-&lt;br /&gt;
scence of the scene. Other examples of this pheno-&lt;br /&gt;
mena may be DR.Doom joining Hitmen and Macx/Ambush&lt;br /&gt;
becoming Co-Leader of Equinoxe, though he's just 14&lt;br /&gt;
years old and about 1 year in the scene,if I recover&lt;br /&gt;
correctly...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Taking in new members with no and/or bad reputation&lt;br /&gt;
means some self-mutilation, a cut of their fame, but&lt;br /&gt;
for the sake of appearing active, more and more old&lt;br /&gt;
legends do so, a sad movement, for my taste, that&lt;br /&gt;
make me once more look back in time with a feeling of&lt;br /&gt;
pity...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
REFLEX&lt;br /&gt;
------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Well, let me talk a bit about Reflex. Being the hype&lt;br /&gt;
of the year, some mags called them the #1   Demogroup&lt;br /&gt;
not realising, that most of their fame was gained due&lt;br /&gt;
to inactivity of the other famous ones, like my #1&lt;br /&gt;
Camelot,Focus,Taboo,Chorus,Fairlight,Antic,Equinoxe,&lt;br /&gt;
Crest,Flash inc.,Padua and lots more. You may now&lt;br /&gt;
say,that I am just envious, but I am not, as some&lt;br /&gt;
guys in Reflex act so arrogant these days, that I&lt;br /&gt;
cannot keep calm there.&lt;br /&gt;
Just let me give you an excerpt of a note spread by&lt;br /&gt;
Quiss lately...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
THIS IS THE  THIRD REFLEX DEMO IN A ROW TO WIN THE&lt;br /&gt;
1 ST PLACE AT A DEMO COMPO . WE DON'T THINK THAT&lt;br /&gt;
THERE IS ANY CONKURRENCE ON THE C 64  ANYMORE  SO&lt;br /&gt;
THIS WILL BE OFFICIALLY THE LAST REFLEX DEMO.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
TRY TO BEAT US WE ARE OFF&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
GO TO PC  LIKE WE DID  64    BITS RULE&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Now,could you believe it? Winning a Democompo in my&lt;br /&gt;
point of view does not mean being the best around,as&lt;br /&gt;
for example at the Party 4 and 5 also system-alien&lt;br /&gt;
sceners vote and lots of C64 guys didn't, due to the&lt;br /&gt;
lack of a C64 VOTEDISK and I do not think it's cool to&lt;br /&gt;
ask any PC or Amiga guy to vote on his machine!&lt;br /&gt;
Showing a lot of PC-related effects in the demo&lt;br /&gt;
surely gets you some votes, but style is the thing,&lt;br /&gt;
that makes your fame,and be fair, where's the style&lt;br /&gt;
in Radio Napalm??? Actually counting the X'95 compo&lt;br /&gt;
winning is nothing but a big laugh, as most of the&lt;br /&gt;
demos released there where for fun only, so having&lt;br /&gt;
no real concurrence surely makes an easy win!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The biggest laugh is &amp;quot;Try to beat our standarts&amp;quot;,&lt;br /&gt;
well,how about Reflex beating the standart Black&lt;br /&gt;
Mail, Topaz, Fairlight, Triad, Spirit ... left us with?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I just could not bear a wanna-be like Quiss talking&lt;br /&gt;
such a heap of bullshit! I do remember driving with&lt;br /&gt;
Intruder to the Tribute 1994, and taking Quiss with&lt;br /&gt;
us. Now,if you wanted to have a talk with him,   you had&lt;br /&gt;
to talk coding-orientated with him, otherwise he was&lt;br /&gt;
unable to communicate! Arriving at the party, the&lt;br /&gt;
first thing to do for him was to build up his compi and&lt;br /&gt;
start showing his routines to the other sceners!&lt;br /&gt;
Now,what does this show? Go to PC, yeah,you bet!&lt;br /&gt;
There you fit a lot better, with all these spotty&lt;br /&gt;
children acting out as geniouses...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But Reflex is not Quiss,so to say. It seems as if this&lt;br /&gt;
group is split in between, as the Insider staff feat-&lt;br /&gt;
uring the old members Felidae,Happymaker,   Hogan and&lt;br /&gt;
others are still working in the scene, and get some&lt;br /&gt;
credit for me for doing so and bringing Reflex from&lt;br /&gt;
the first noter-collections up to the higher spots...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So,people,please listen up and THINK before calling&lt;br /&gt;
Reflex the best,unbeatable group, as it is nothing&lt;br /&gt;
but a sad thing to do,to hold back finished demos,&lt;br /&gt;
just to release them at compos to earn some bucks!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Two Tribes?&lt;br /&gt;
----------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Well, another thing that I found out lately, is that&lt;br /&gt;
the scene these days seems to be divided in two dif-&lt;br /&gt;
ferent ones: The Board/Self-considering Elite scene&lt;br /&gt;
and the Mail/Lower(?) Scene. Being in Avantgarde, I&lt;br /&gt;
should feel more comfortable in the first one and&lt;br /&gt;
should follow interested it's moving along. But, to be&lt;br /&gt;
fair, reading PROPAGANDA or THE PULSE gives me next&lt;br /&gt;
to nothing, as both of them contain such a heap of&lt;br /&gt;
self- righteous information, that I get sick of it!&lt;br /&gt;
I mean, who needs this semi-journalistic language in&lt;br /&gt;
a scene mag? Working for a newspaper gives me some&lt;br /&gt;
insight into this business and believe me, that a&lt;br /&gt;
scene-mag is still far from a newspaper, so it also&lt;br /&gt;
should stick to more common language than boasting&lt;br /&gt;
with words and idioms noone actually would use in a&lt;br /&gt;
chat on a scene-party! THIS IS THE SCENE,AND THE&lt;br /&gt;
MAGS PUBLISHED HERE SHOULD ENTERTAIN!&lt;br /&gt;
Also most of these mags give out annual polls and&lt;br /&gt;
awards, that are far from displaying the scene, just&lt;br /&gt;
see Joe/Wrath Design being the best graphician,&lt;br /&gt;
though he did nothing since his  scanned-picture-orgy&lt;br /&gt;
courtesy of soviet! Also Propaganda's Scope is not&lt;br /&gt;
what I consider the best graphician 1995. Scope is&lt;br /&gt;
dead. that's a fact, he was a good graphician with his&lt;br /&gt;
very own style, that's also a fact, but you cannot&lt;br /&gt;
call him an active graphician one year after his de-&lt;br /&gt;
parture!  Surely his comrades want to pay him the&lt;br /&gt;
credit he deserves in their eye, but please try to&lt;br /&gt;
face the facts...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So much for the elite-scene and their Blackboards,&lt;br /&gt;
but there is also another &amp;quot;scene&amp;quot;, meaning them&lt;br /&gt;
newer small groups like U-turn, Ascareus, Nofx...&lt;br /&gt;
The mags there seem to be as ignorant to normal&lt;br /&gt;
scene life like the ones mentioned above. I mean,&lt;br /&gt;
check for example Unplugged#2, the news contained&lt;br /&gt;
the death of Scope/F4CG one year too late as news!&lt;br /&gt;
Same with Shuze/Chromance joining Alpha Flight!&lt;br /&gt;
Now,where's the research there? This scene seems&lt;br /&gt;
to be putting out whatever it gets just to seem ac-&lt;br /&gt;
tive, no matter how crappy it is, same for the gfx/&lt;br /&gt;
outfits. This is no real new thing to me,as there has&lt;br /&gt;
already been a german semi-&amp;quot;Computer Flohmarkt&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
scene, with mags not spread withing the &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; scene&lt;br /&gt;
and groups/guys never being heard of in the common&lt;br /&gt;
scene mags like Skyhigh,Nitro or Vandalism News...&lt;br /&gt;
I remember  an interview in such a mag with Gonzo/AWT&lt;br /&gt;
where they asked him, how he can handle being both&lt;br /&gt;
active for the &amp;quot;Computer-Flohmarkt&amp;quot; and being in an&lt;br /&gt;
ELITE(!!!) group!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As a sum-up, I feel a bit as if the scene splits up&lt;br /&gt;
and some guys do their works no matter what it's go-&lt;br /&gt;
ing on outside...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
STYLE&lt;br /&gt;
-----&lt;br /&gt;
Some of you may remember me asking for demogroups&lt;br /&gt;
to bring some of the old style back rather than re-&lt;br /&gt;
leasing a string of fx, and looking around a bit, I&lt;br /&gt;
found some. AGONY for example shocked me totally&lt;br /&gt;
with their release of PAIN and Skyle's Game Preview&lt;br /&gt;
Apollo 14. This assured me,that there is a lot of&lt;br /&gt;
style still possible, especially in the eastern scene!&lt;br /&gt;
Just check one thing: Graphic formats. In Polish re-&lt;br /&gt;
leases superhires interlace is a common thing, even&lt;br /&gt;
in the smaller groups' warez, while you get seldomly&lt;br /&gt;
some SHI pictures in a German/Dutch/Swedish re-&lt;br /&gt;
lease! I really look forward to more releases from&lt;br /&gt;
AGONY and alikes...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Me and my Amiga...&lt;br /&gt;
---------------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I'm sick of it, yes I am! I am sick of &amp;quot;graphicians&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
using wired/scanned/digitally converted Gfx and&lt;br /&gt;
claiming to have done something cool! And yet, they&lt;br /&gt;
get a lot of applause for that, as most spectators&lt;br /&gt;
are too lazy to take a closer look at the works. So,&lt;br /&gt;
if wiring from Amiga is the art in doing C64 Gfx, I will&lt;br /&gt;
quit immediately, wake up, for heavens sake! Well,I&lt;br /&gt;
will now endanger my role of the good boy, and will&lt;br /&gt;
release a list of &amp;quot;graphicians&amp;quot; using wired gfx! If   you&lt;br /&gt;
are in this list and feel offended, proof me wrong!&lt;br /&gt;
Stop voting for these guys, as graphicians!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Rayden/Chalice/Alpha Flight&lt;br /&gt;
Joe/Wrath Design&lt;br /&gt;
Earthquake/Cosmic Style&lt;br /&gt;
Hi lite/Hitmen&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I talked to a lot of other real graphicians for re-&lt;br /&gt;
search reasons, so I am sure, that these guys did&lt;br /&gt;
release wired Gfx, an exception is Earthquake, as&lt;br /&gt;
only his graf-styled logos in the BASS collections&lt;br /&gt;
were wired from Amiga...&lt;br /&gt;
The list will be updated/erased each issue from now&lt;br /&gt;
on...   Don't believe in everything you see!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cup!d./.Avantgarde&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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