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		<title>Ymgve at 16:58, 29 November 2007</title>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;Tha Biz-mix&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeahhh boyiiiiiee!!!&lt;br /&gt;
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The wacko Biz man is back in his column!! This time I&lt;br /&gt;
will go straight to the point. No babbeling craptalk&lt;br /&gt;
as an introduction. Just pure text..&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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Lately, I have seen something which really makes me&lt;br /&gt;
wonder big time. But first a little introduction.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I, personally, haven't filled out a votesheet for at&lt;br /&gt;
least 2 years (maybe even more!!!). The reason is that&lt;br /&gt;
I simply have too much other things to do, than to&lt;br /&gt;
fill out sheets. Arrogant bastard you think now. Well&lt;br /&gt;
better check this out then!!  Skyhigh takes up quite&lt;br /&gt;
a lot of my time, when sitting infront of the C64, that&lt;br /&gt;
is. This isn't the problem itself, coz I love writing for&lt;br /&gt;
it. Another reason is that I have to send out a vote-&lt;br /&gt;
sheet for Skyhigh with every sending I do. Some may&lt;br /&gt;
say that is a splitted morality I have. I want other&lt;br /&gt;
people to fill in sheet for me but I don't fill any in&lt;br /&gt;
return. Hmm, yeah I can see a problem there,but then&lt;br /&gt;
again; If I had to send a disk + 2 sheets the weight&lt;br /&gt;
would cause me to put on more stamps. This will make&lt;br /&gt;
it way to expensive for me. Ok this is a lame excuse,&lt;br /&gt;
and definetely not the main reason. Another thing is&lt;br /&gt;
that I simply don't feel like filling in sheets. Yeah&lt;br /&gt;
that might sound arrogant, but it isn't. And if you see&lt;br /&gt;
it like this, well then be it!!&lt;br /&gt;
Another reason why I don't fill or send off sheets, is&lt;br /&gt;
that I don't want my addy in other magazines than my&lt;br /&gt;
own. Why you ask!! Well the reason is clear &amp;amp;amp; simple :&lt;br /&gt;
I don't want more contacts, so I don't need my addy&lt;br /&gt;
to be spread.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
BUT......&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Recently I have seen my addy in various magazine re-&lt;br /&gt;
leases!!! Well how can that be??? I haven't told or&lt;br /&gt;
'allowed'!! anyone to put my addy in their magazines.&lt;br /&gt;
Still it has happend. Hmmmmmm!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Lately it was printed in the 2 Australian mags :&lt;br /&gt;
Vandalism News and Domination. In one of them it even&lt;br /&gt;
read: for Skyhigh and swap.. Ooops!! As I don't take&lt;br /&gt;
any new contacts (Or very little!!) it isn't that great&lt;br /&gt;
to see such an advert in other mags.  Well ofcourse&lt;br /&gt;
the editors, who both are good buddies of mine, did it&lt;br /&gt;
to give me a helping hand. But honestly then I would&lt;br /&gt;
rather they weren't included. So to all you editors&lt;br /&gt;
who see this . If you have my addy in your magazine&lt;br /&gt;
please remove all text saying that I want to swap..&lt;br /&gt;
Only texts like: Stuff for Skyhigh or: Skyhigh HQ are&lt;br /&gt;
ok!! Please see to that it will be corrected as soon&lt;br /&gt;
as possible - Thanx!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Subject change...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the larger subjects in the different magazines&lt;br /&gt;
lately has been the debate on mail magazines versus&lt;br /&gt;
board magazines. Every board magazine with a bit of&lt;br /&gt;
respect for itself has had an article about the dying&lt;br /&gt;
of the mail scene based mag. Why all this I ask... Well&lt;br /&gt;
let me fill in some background story first.&lt;br /&gt;
Almost all of the before mentioned magazines starts&lt;br /&gt;
out with a little story about how mags like Script,&lt;br /&gt;
Nitro &amp;amp;amp; especially this one has dominated the charts&lt;br /&gt;
for quite some time now. They write how big an influ-&lt;br /&gt;
ence &amp;quot;we&amp;quot; have had the last year or so. BUT now our&lt;br /&gt;
time has come. Many talk about our era being over&lt;br /&gt;
soon. They say that the sceners want more now. They&lt;br /&gt;
want release charts. They want the news splitted up&lt;br /&gt;
in cathegories. They want board orientated stuff in-&lt;br /&gt;
stead of all this mail stuff. Hmmm, what is this I ask?&lt;br /&gt;
To me it seems like they are feeling threathened...&lt;br /&gt;
Maybe even envious??? I dunno... Somehow it feels&lt;br /&gt;
like they are getting irritated about not hitting the&lt;br /&gt;
topspot in the charts. Well I can't blame them for&lt;br /&gt;
that, coz this is what is all about for them, right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Well I myself admit there will be some major changes&lt;br /&gt;
in the magazine structure soon. The readers are get-&lt;br /&gt;
ting more and more demanding. They don't want to be&lt;br /&gt;
fed of with small bad looking outfits or boring and&lt;br /&gt;
non-quality text anymore. I believe there is an ex-&lt;br /&gt;
pression who says: &amp;quot;more , wants more&amp;quot; or something&lt;br /&gt;
like that. If not then I will explain what I mean.&lt;br /&gt;
The quality of magazines (and everything else in the&lt;br /&gt;
scene) is constantly rising, but people still want&lt;br /&gt;
more and more. This is understandable to me, and also&lt;br /&gt;
good. Coz this is the only way to get our products&lt;br /&gt;
more and more perfect, If the readers just sat down&lt;br /&gt;
and said ok, now the mags are great, then the quality&lt;br /&gt;
would stop progressing. This is not what I want. It&lt;br /&gt;
should be known to everybody that I have tried to&lt;br /&gt;
improve my own, this, magazine all the time, and will&lt;br /&gt;
keep doing so.&lt;br /&gt;
But that's not the entire thing there is to it. Somehow&lt;br /&gt;
I think that the board magazines overlook a very im-&lt;br /&gt;
portant fact. They keep claiming that &amp;quot;we&amp;quot; only have&lt;br /&gt;
our good positions in the charts becoz there are so&lt;br /&gt;
many 'mailers' compared to board sceners. Some even&lt;br /&gt;
writes inbetween the lines that we are not real mags.&lt;br /&gt;
We are only a &amp;quot;last hope for the mailers to get a&lt;br /&gt;
glimse of the real scene, the board scene..'&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
BULLSHIT&lt;br /&gt;
BULLSHIT...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I don't know diddly about the boards, calling out or&lt;br /&gt;
the socalled 'boardlife/scene'. A shame really, but..&lt;br /&gt;
This sort of scene simply isn't me, period. And the&lt;br /&gt;
story tells it clear words; this is the way most of the&lt;br /&gt;
sceners feel about it. Maybe they are not allowed to&lt;br /&gt;
call out, or simply can't afford it. Well they might&lt;br /&gt;
even not find it interessting at all... So they turn to&lt;br /&gt;
the magazines which writes about all that they find&lt;br /&gt;
interessting. Personally I think this says it all.. The&lt;br /&gt;
wide spectre do not want the board magazines, so I&lt;br /&gt;
don't start to panic and turn my mag into a boardmag&lt;br /&gt;
right away!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
BUT, ofcoz I am not blind! I, too, see that the maga-&lt;br /&gt;
zine structure is changing slowly. The readers don't&lt;br /&gt;
want pure mail magazines, and they don't want pure&lt;br /&gt;
board magazines either. So the solution in my eyes is&lt;br /&gt;
to make a fusion of these two directions.&lt;br /&gt;
Listen to my prediction. In the year of 1996 you will&lt;br /&gt;
find some magazines with stuff for everybody, and&lt;br /&gt;
the one with the best balance will be the winner. It is&lt;br /&gt;
as simple as that! In the future you will see a narrow&lt;br /&gt;
teamwork between the mailers and the boarders.&lt;br /&gt;
This magazine will for one catch the progress in the&lt;br /&gt;
air, and do what it can to fulfill this demand. I will&lt;br /&gt;
personally see to that the before mentioned balance&lt;br /&gt;
will be found and brought into Skyhigh alongthe way!&lt;br /&gt;
I have my loyal group of readers out there who most&lt;br /&gt;
definetely will back me up all the way. My plan is to&lt;br /&gt;
enlarge this group with the people who are about to&lt;br /&gt;
try the board scene aswell. And along the way pro-&lt;br /&gt;
bably even grap the 'real' boarders too..&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My good colleague Bizarre, who edits the popular&lt;br /&gt;
Vandalism News, wrote in the Silver edition a list of&lt;br /&gt;
magazines which would take over the top 5 in 1996.&lt;br /&gt;
These magazines were: Domination, Vandalism News,&lt;br /&gt;
The Pulse, Relax abd the last one was Propagand I&lt;br /&gt;
believe. But no Skyhigh... Hmmm, Jose, that wasn't nice&lt;br /&gt;
Well I think that we must discuss this again in Decem-&lt;br /&gt;
ber 1996, coz I will do anything within my powers to&lt;br /&gt;
prove you wrong. Listen to me now, and listen to me&lt;br /&gt;
good. Your predictions will not come true. At least&lt;br /&gt;
one of the names will be replaced by Skyhigh. Yep I&lt;br /&gt;
feel quite comfortable with myself. The reason is&lt;br /&gt;
that I've gathered some of the finest sceners in my&lt;br /&gt;
staff. People who are highly respected within their&lt;br /&gt;
terretories, and I know they will do what ever they&lt;br /&gt;
can to uphold our position. Sure the other magazines&lt;br /&gt;
claims to have just as good co-editors, and I will not&lt;br /&gt;
argue with that. So I guess the point of this article&lt;br /&gt;
is to shake it up a bit, and see what wil happend.&lt;br /&gt;
Finally I will wish each and one of you editors out&lt;br /&gt;
there the best in 1996. Let's stick together and make&lt;br /&gt;
the best out of it, let's show them that 1996 is ano-&lt;br /&gt;
ther milestone in the C64 magazine history. The year&lt;br /&gt;
where there were magazines for everybody, for the&lt;br /&gt;
entire scene.&lt;br /&gt;
Meet you out in the future. Meet all you 'next gene-&lt;br /&gt;
ration' magazines. He he!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Ok something quite different!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I would once more like to express my opinion about&lt;br /&gt;
the PC and the C64.  7-8 months ago I bought a PC.&lt;br /&gt;
This was a whole new life for me.  All these things&lt;br /&gt;
such a wonderful piece of machine could do. And all&lt;br /&gt;
these programs which was needed to start it all up.&lt;br /&gt;
It is not like the cool C64 where you simply turn it&lt;br /&gt;
on, and it is working. When turning on the PC it has to&lt;br /&gt;
boot, check various programs, set numerious para-&lt;br /&gt;
metres and, and ,and... If something was deleted or&lt;br /&gt;
changed in one of these programs, your PC most pro-&lt;br /&gt;
bably wouldn't start up at all. Damn a lot of problems&lt;br /&gt;
But hey, this actually not what I wanted to write&lt;br /&gt;
about. Nah, see as I bought my wonderful PC it was a&lt;br /&gt;
quite neat and powerful one. Not the top machine, but&lt;br /&gt;
in the very best end of the of the scale. I bought a&lt;br /&gt;
486 DX2 80Mhz, with 420 MB harddisk, a quad speed CD&lt;br /&gt;
rom drive and some other things. But guess what...&lt;br /&gt;
This nice machine of mine is perhaps already in the&lt;br /&gt;
lower half of the scale by now. See now we are talk-&lt;br /&gt;
ing Pentium processors or maybe even pure 32 bit&lt;br /&gt;
Pentium Pro based processors. Now 80 Mhz is nothing&lt;br /&gt;
to brag about. Soon the frequencies is 120 or even&lt;br /&gt;
133 Mhz, and within long these are standard and the&lt;br /&gt;
150, 166 or 200 Mhz are the real thing. Hmm for some&lt;br /&gt;
this might be pure black talk, and I will end it for now&lt;br /&gt;
eventhough I could mention a lot more. (Eg. 8-10 spd.&lt;br /&gt;
Cd rom drives - 1.2. 2.0 Ggb hard disx or....)&lt;br /&gt;
STOP, Biz man!! - Ok, ok... The morale of the story is&lt;br /&gt;
that my nice PC is already a bit outdated, and that is&lt;br /&gt;
in only 8 months!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Ok I then turn to the C64. My C64 is the new model,&lt;br /&gt;
but it is more or less the exact same machine which&lt;br /&gt;
saw the light of day 12 years ago (13??). This is incre&lt;br /&gt;
dible, don't you think so.&lt;br /&gt;
The only improvements we got along the way was a&lt;br /&gt;
nicer designed machine, a few changed chips (if that&lt;br /&gt;
was an improvement!!), cartridges with fast loaders&lt;br /&gt;
and some extra stuff. But basically the raw machine&lt;br /&gt;
itself is th exact same as it was presented the first&lt;br /&gt;
time. No other computer can brag about that, and I&lt;br /&gt;
really mean NO ONE!!! Think about it: 8bit... Doesn't&lt;br /&gt;
sound like much eh! Still we showed the world that it&lt;br /&gt;
is enough. Isn't it amazing that people still can gath-&lt;br /&gt;
er around this 'antique' piece of development.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The reason why I mention all this, is that I would like&lt;br /&gt;
to talk about the culture which is connected to it.&lt;br /&gt;
Some people call us nerds. Computernerds or geeks.&lt;br /&gt;
Why do they call us like that.. Hmm, I say that they&lt;br /&gt;
don't know what we are doing. Maybe the envy us a lit&lt;br /&gt;
tle; maybe they envy this sort of underground life&lt;br /&gt;
we occasional have. Well yeah, maybe we are to be&lt;br /&gt;
compared to the savages, maybe.. Truth is that we do&lt;br /&gt;
gather now and then around in Europe. Here we outlive&lt;br /&gt;
our passion, our little secret.&lt;br /&gt;
I think most of your parents has been just like mine.&lt;br /&gt;
As I got my C64 they said that it was stupid and it&lt;br /&gt;
would NEVER be a success for me. I would only find it&lt;br /&gt;
interessting in the beginning, and then.... A complete&lt;br /&gt;
waste of money. Time went on, and I still used it. I&lt;br /&gt;
used it a lot. I used it so much that they started to&lt;br /&gt;
complain about it. Why don't you leave your damn C64&lt;br /&gt;
alone and get out in the fine weather! You are spend-&lt;br /&gt;
ing way to much time infront of this stupid machine!!&lt;br /&gt;
Hmm, maybe I was a nerd in some eyes, naaah I don't&lt;br /&gt;
think so. I have had a lot of fun besides my computer.&lt;br /&gt;
I most definetely had a socalled social life aswell.&lt;br /&gt;
Chasing girls, getting drunk and laid. Yep that was a&lt;br /&gt;
nice time. On the other hand I have also gone to odd&lt;br /&gt;
parties around Europe. 3 days with other nerds from&lt;br /&gt;
different countries. 3 days with a lot of junkfood,&lt;br /&gt;
liters of Coca Cola, sweat, bad smell and weird people.&lt;br /&gt;
I have also slept under the table. Not becoz I was&lt;br /&gt;
drunk, but to be near my computer. People does not&lt;br /&gt;
really understand this, and therefore some people&lt;br /&gt;
would even cathegorize me as a freak, a nerd. SO BE&lt;br /&gt;
IT!! I know that I am no nerd, no fuckin way!&lt;br /&gt;
They have laughed at us.. We didn't really care. Now&lt;br /&gt;
the technology is over us, and the people who laugh-&lt;br /&gt;
ed are now the ones to be lughed at. See now we have&lt;br /&gt;
the advantages. We know our way around with com-&lt;br /&gt;
puters, they don't. So now we are ok to them, coz now&lt;br /&gt;
we can help them. Well fuck 'em. They should have&lt;br /&gt;
thouht about that earlier. So maybe we should start&lt;br /&gt;
laughing back at them; but no we are not like that.&lt;br /&gt;
(well yeah a little perhaps..)&lt;br /&gt;
So I don't give a damn about what people think, call&lt;br /&gt;
me a geek, call me a computer genious, call me what-&lt;br /&gt;
ever you fucking want to. I don't give a damn, and I&lt;br /&gt;
never regret my time on this, the coolest, computer&lt;br /&gt;
ever, so far!!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Now after having returned from the Party 5 here in&lt;br /&gt;
Denmark, I feel even stronger and prouder of being&lt;br /&gt;
what I am. I had 3 cooooool days in Fredericia this&lt;br /&gt;
year.(Erhm, last year!!).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So what made me feel so proud? I'll tell you:&lt;br /&gt;
For the Party organizers, our little breadcase is al-&lt;br /&gt;
most dead. It seems like they do not want to know of&lt;br /&gt;
it. Fortunately we are still so many, that they had no&lt;br /&gt;
other option than to squeeze in a C64 demo competi-&lt;br /&gt;
tion. But that was all for our beloved computer.&lt;br /&gt;
But you know what? They can't control us like that!!!&lt;br /&gt;
No fucking way! 2 groups joined forces and made both&lt;br /&gt;
a music- and a graphics-compo for the C64. These 2&lt;br /&gt;
groups were F4CG and REFLEX.. My deepest respect to&lt;br /&gt;
both of them!!! What really hit was the competition it-&lt;br /&gt;
self; you should have seen the massive crowd around&lt;br /&gt;
this little television/monitor and the mini sound sys-&lt;br /&gt;
tem. Amazing!! It was absolutely incredible, to see&lt;br /&gt;
how people got together and supported the scene&lt;br /&gt;
like this. FUCK the big screen, FUCK the 20.000 watts&lt;br /&gt;
loudspeakers, and FUCK the prizes. These people&lt;br /&gt;
couldn't give a shit about it; most of them hardly&lt;br /&gt;
could see the screen, and the sound system had its&lt;br /&gt;
problems, but the sceners didn't care. The prize was&lt;br /&gt;
a bottle of homemade booze for the winners and a&lt;br /&gt;
video from The Tribute. But the point of it all is, that&lt;br /&gt;
they did this for fun!! And perhaps in protest to the&lt;br /&gt;
lame organizers who didn't want to make these two&lt;br /&gt;
important competitions! I felt joy seeing this hapend,&lt;br /&gt;
and no matter what you say then the sceners from&lt;br /&gt;
other systems may have had a strange taste in their&lt;br /&gt;
mouth!! Becoz this could NEVER have happend on, say&lt;br /&gt;
an Amiga or PC.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Brotherhood?, family?, friendship?. Well I don't know,&lt;br /&gt;
but I feel happy to see it!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
And these where the words from me for this time. The&lt;br /&gt;
morale of the story may be : We are far from dead,&lt;br /&gt;
and we are still going strong. Friendship really rules.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I wish you all a happy 1996, may it be just a great as&lt;br /&gt;
1995.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
BIZ KID&lt;br /&gt;
BIZ KID&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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