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		<title>Ymgve at 16:11, 29 November 2007</title>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;SCENE VERSUS GIRLS&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
Well I know it is a bit of The Mistress talks now in&lt;br /&gt;
Skyhigh, but lately there have been a lot of discus-&lt;br /&gt;
sions about the few girls this scene still has.&lt;br /&gt;
Of course, it is a story told many times but lately I&lt;br /&gt;
read an article, I thought it was in mendip or some-&lt;br /&gt;
thing like it, called &amp;quot;girls vs. scene&amp;quot;. It seems that&lt;br /&gt;
some people in this scene think that it is the lack of&lt;br /&gt;
interest from the female side of this world that this&lt;br /&gt;
scene does not have many girls. Is it girls versus&lt;br /&gt;
scene or really the scene versus girls?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As you know there have been few girls in the scene,&lt;br /&gt;
names from the past sound like: BBR,BBL,BBD and TBB&lt;br /&gt;
the all-female group The Beautiful Blondes. TBB was&lt;br /&gt;
of course also known as a coder in various legenda-&lt;br /&gt;
ry groups in the late eighties before joining TMB soft&lt;br /&gt;
ware in 1991 and passing away at nineteen in march&lt;br /&gt;
1993.&lt;br /&gt;
Other names I can give you is Mario, famous graphici-&lt;br /&gt;
an SMD (the female part who quit), Australian Deb/&lt;br /&gt;
Battery, Andrea of Varsity who quit after the tragic&lt;br /&gt;
accident en route to the TCC'93 where she lost con-&lt;br /&gt;
trol of the car, causing an accident with two casual-&lt;br /&gt;
ties,among them her boyfriend Charlie/Varsity.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nowadays I count fewer girls than ever, Mav quit the&lt;br /&gt;
scene, Rambo came out to be a boy,it has been a long&lt;br /&gt;
time since I have seen Black Widow's &amp;quot;Moonlight&amp;quot; and&lt;br /&gt;
Kayleigh/Fatum also quit the scene some months be-&lt;br /&gt;
fore her brother Nephelim did.&lt;br /&gt;
Still Black Widow, Starlight and yours truly are the&lt;br /&gt;
only known girls left in the scene, so isn't it time to&lt;br /&gt;
see what is going on? Oops, I forgot Angel!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Female interest in computers is rising everywhere,&lt;br /&gt;
especially on the net. Problem seems to be that girls&lt;br /&gt;
and women do not have the determination to start co&lt;br /&gt;
ding for long hours and get advanced, I can remember&lt;br /&gt;
no name of any coder on any system after TBB and&lt;br /&gt;
BBR, who both died. BBR died of cancer in the summer&lt;br /&gt;
of 1993.&lt;br /&gt;
But in PC females are growing in number, &amp;amp;amp; it appears&lt;br /&gt;
this came out on the Party iv where the female mark&lt;br /&gt;
almost reached the 1% mark according to Nastiness,&lt;br /&gt;
Inc. Who was there,and this party was mainly pc.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But believe me, it's not a matter of no new girls com-&lt;br /&gt;
ming into the scene, it is a matter of new people com&lt;br /&gt;
ing into this scene!  You must take a rough percentage&lt;br /&gt;
and say that about 3 %. (permille) of a scene are fe-&lt;br /&gt;
males, that is a nice number. So that means that&lt;br /&gt;
about 333 new people have to enter a scene to have&lt;br /&gt;
one girl among them. And well,we don't get thousands&lt;br /&gt;
of new sceners.&lt;br /&gt;
This scene is dying in number even as it is getting one&lt;br /&gt;
rebirth after another in quality, except for games.&lt;br /&gt;
How many sceners are there now, active and all? Two&lt;br /&gt;
thousands? One thousand?&lt;br /&gt;
I count four active girls but maybe there are more,&lt;br /&gt;
some less known. That would count up to my number.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
And why are girls not so interested in computers?&lt;br /&gt;
Well, it's a mans world you always hear and the scene&lt;br /&gt;
confirms this heavily. I think I can safely speak for&lt;br /&gt;
the other girls when I say that we get contacted&lt;br /&gt;
only because we are girls. The best known one, Star-&lt;br /&gt;
light, used to be voted for mainly because she was a&lt;br /&gt;
girl and though I don't know her personally I've seen&lt;br /&gt;
she had to be quite good to make up for the votes&lt;br /&gt;
and she did a hell of a job doing that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My friend Cupid wrote me that if I got more contacts,&lt;br /&gt;
I would easily rise to the top in the swapper charts,&lt;br /&gt;
because I was a girl.&lt;br /&gt;
I explained him then, as I will explain you now, that I&lt;br /&gt;
would never want to be in the swapper charts. I have&lt;br /&gt;
about ten contacts only and can hardly afford new&lt;br /&gt;
ones, I am busy with two magazines and leading one&lt;br /&gt;
group, Angry (together with Nti), and I am not very&lt;br /&gt;
much of a swapper. I work at the same desk as Nti &amp;amp;amp;&lt;br /&gt;
that's the reason why I usually have some hot wares&lt;br /&gt;
to send. My notes are most of the time pretty long&lt;br /&gt;
and friendly so I would not blame those few contacts&lt;br /&gt;
I have if they decided to vote for me.&lt;br /&gt;
But when I'ld see that I got 75 points or something&lt;br /&gt;
from 10 contacts (based on a top-10 swapper chart)&lt;br /&gt;
I would think this over again.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What do you think when you contact a girl?&amp;quot;most&amp;quot; (a&lt;br /&gt;
weird word when talking about 10) of my contacts&lt;br /&gt;
usually write to me about sex, the different varia-&lt;br /&gt;
tions and positions and all that comes with it and&lt;br /&gt;
though I all but disklike this, it is only typical to see&lt;br /&gt;
that with our small number all girls are seen as part&lt;br /&gt;
ners for kinky conversation. Now Black Widow is also&lt;br /&gt;
known for a small sex chapter in her magazine and I&lt;br /&gt;
have had some spicy  talks in my column in The Tribune&lt;br /&gt;
but beside having a cunt, we are more!&lt;br /&gt;
And some people seem to have trouble realising that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Now many sceners are still in their years of puberty&lt;br /&gt;
and if they are not some have a hard time realising&lt;br /&gt;
that.&lt;br /&gt;
Porn stories are in mags everywhere and the funny&lt;br /&gt;
thing I saw twice is that girls are advised to leave&lt;br /&gt;
this chapter. Now why that? First of all, porn stories&lt;br /&gt;
are about sex and those who believe that only boys&lt;br /&gt;
can enjoy sex are boys I would never want to meet,&lt;br /&gt;
because they are probably the people my friend :&lt;br /&gt;
Steiger once referred to as : &amp;quot;Wham bam thank you&lt;br /&gt;
ma'am&amp;quot; dudes in bed.&lt;br /&gt;
porn stories in diskmags are most of the time ripped&lt;br /&gt;
from x-rated magazines and actually can stimulate&lt;br /&gt;
both men and women. Ha,never thought of that? Sad...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It is a fact that the scene does not have many girls&lt;br /&gt;
and they might never get more for all you know.&lt;br /&gt;
So why take a rather unknowing, or even agressive&lt;br /&gt;
stance to the few that are here?we are sceners just&lt;br /&gt;
like you boys out there. As my late friend TBB said&lt;br /&gt;
some years ago:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Do you need a dick to switch on a c64?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some rag on girls being incompetent because of the&lt;br /&gt;
known ones are mageditors and swappers. Apart from&lt;br /&gt;
that these skills are not half as easy as they look&lt;br /&gt;
I again want to point at the fact that a small percen&lt;br /&gt;
tage only is capable of doing more. Okay,some can do&lt;br /&gt;
a little graphics or music, And a few guys only can&lt;br /&gt;
crack or code. Why else do we have longer swapper&lt;br /&gt;
charts than any other chart?&lt;br /&gt;
Everybody has different contacts but not everybody&lt;br /&gt;
has different coders&lt;br /&gt;
.So can you blame the four of us ? Remember coding&lt;br /&gt;
TBB and BBR, remember drawing SMD. Don't remember&lt;br /&gt;
me drawing!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
People who don't know what they are talking about&lt;br /&gt;
should stop writing crap about the girls who   would be&lt;br /&gt;
against the scene. Girls want to have fun, just like&lt;br /&gt;
boys. We have breasts and no beard and still we have&lt;br /&gt;
all the fun we want. We can enjoy sex tales and porn&lt;br /&gt;
stories just like everybody else. And when somebody&lt;br /&gt;
fights against the rude discrimination of gays &amp;amp;amp; col-&lt;br /&gt;
oured people while they look down on girls in the&lt;br /&gt;
scene they're the stupidest fakes I have ever heard&lt;br /&gt;
of.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you want to have a say to me for Skyhigh, then do&lt;br /&gt;
not hesitate, but write me on this address:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For swapping, I cannot guarantee a full 100% reply&lt;br /&gt;
for I don't have much time with my two real life jobs&lt;br /&gt;
and two mags to write for. Until next time!&lt;br /&gt;
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LOVE FROM THE MISTRESS/ANGRY&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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