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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;__NOTOC__&lt;br /&gt;
Ping pong dynamolygte. Welcome to anotha edition of&lt;br /&gt;
the on-going Bizmix...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This time I have quite a lot on my mind. Explanation:&lt;br /&gt;
Lots of things have happend since last issue was out&lt;br /&gt;
at the party 4 in Herning/Denmark...So I guess there&lt;br /&gt;
is a lot of incidents to sort out!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Ok why not jump right into it !!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===THA BIZ-MIX===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the previous issue of this magazine I more or less&lt;br /&gt;
declared Oxyron dead.&lt;br /&gt;
Therefore I proclaimed that I was looking for a new&lt;br /&gt;
group to join; but why not tell you the entire story !!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some months ago I talked to TTS on the phone. He&lt;br /&gt;
told me that he was getting sick'n'tired of the old 64.&lt;br /&gt;
Especially the lame party in sweden: 'Tribute 94' took&lt;br /&gt;
away the last bit of inspiration from him. So he decided that he would leave the c64 and start to code on&lt;br /&gt;
the amiga only.. A bit later I got the same information&lt;br /&gt;
from Axis. So now Oxyron had lost their 2 topcoders,&lt;br /&gt;
leaving 'only' Graham back... I know Graham; he's one&lt;br /&gt;
hell of a coder but not the most active one, so to me&lt;br /&gt;
it seemed like the end of the c64 era...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So I presumed that the end of the Oxyron c64 division&lt;br /&gt;
was near,  and therefore I decided to leave my friends&lt;br /&gt;
in Oxyron and search for a new active/legal group.&lt;br /&gt;
To no ones surprise I was hoping for Camelot. But  -&lt;br /&gt;
more about that later...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All this was as mentioned written in the previous&lt;br /&gt;
issue of Skyhigh....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Somehow RRR got pretty upset about that, and started behaving strange. I don't in my wildest imagination,&lt;br /&gt;
(or maybe I do!), understand why he got so upset..&lt;br /&gt;
Fact is that he did a note straightening out some&lt;br /&gt;
errors. AT LEAST that's what he thought and said...&lt;br /&gt;
The note was written like it was done by the entire&lt;br /&gt;
Oxyron, but it wasn't!!!! It was entirely done by RRR,&lt;br /&gt;
and RRR only!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(But read more about that in the chapter called :&lt;br /&gt;
Why RRR???)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the meantime I had a talk with Raz about joining&lt;br /&gt;
Camelot. All he had to do was to ask all the other  Cml&lt;br /&gt;
members and make them vote..&lt;br /&gt;
14 days went and finally Raz called me up and said&lt;br /&gt;
that I was in...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The day after (a sunday) Axis rang me up and told me&lt;br /&gt;
about the note RRR did. They had been informed about&lt;br /&gt;
this note by Pri.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- He, (Axis), said that even if RRR had written that I&lt;br /&gt;
was no longer a member of Oxyron I sure was! He told&lt;br /&gt;
me that Oxyron had nothing to do with that particular&lt;br /&gt;
note, and that I should not start looking for a new&lt;br /&gt;
group because of that!!! Unfortunately he was too&lt;br /&gt;
late, coz I had already joined Camelot at that time..&lt;br /&gt;
(One day earlier, as a matter of fact!)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But to make it quite clear to everybody then I   did NOT&lt;br /&gt;
leave Oxyron because of RRR, but becoz they were&lt;br /&gt;
dying. I told axis that and we decided to meet the following weekend at an Oxy-meeting in Flensburg/Germany to talk it all over.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the meeting we discussed the latest incidents. The&lt;br /&gt;
entire Oxy   posse didn't understand what was going on&lt;br /&gt;
with RRR. And we came to the conlusion that he no&lt;br /&gt;
longer belonged to Oxyron, so he got booted.&lt;br /&gt;
In other words : &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===HE GOT KICKED!!===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
About me joining Camelot :&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Well they fully understood me, and backed me 100%&lt;br /&gt;
up. Some wanted me to stay becoz Axis was returning&lt;br /&gt;
as coder (a very wise move my friend!!)   but they under&lt;br /&gt;
stood and respected my choice. But there Is a sad&lt;br /&gt;
side of the story too!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I've had a lot of fun &amp;amp;amp; partying with my real friends&lt;br /&gt;
in Oxyron through the years, so I did feel sad about&lt;br /&gt;
leaving them like that! But on the other hand I had informed them some months earlier that I would look&lt;br /&gt;
for a new group becoz of Oxyron dying. But I hadn't&lt;br /&gt;
calculated with Axis returning to the good old c64,&lt;br /&gt;
so it changed things a lot!&lt;br /&gt;
So we made a deal ;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Eventhough I'm a Camel now I am still very welcome&lt;br /&gt;
at their hq and with help for their demos!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As some might know then Oxyron &amp;amp;amp; Camelot are pretty&lt;br /&gt;
good friends. I can tell ya that Axis and Slammer are&lt;br /&gt;
quite good buddies, and so is the story with me!!&lt;br /&gt;
So if Oxyron really kick back with new life then I am&lt;br /&gt;
what you could call :&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A spiritually part of the team, meaning we are still&lt;br /&gt;
best of friends.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
And if Oxyron goes 100% amiga, then I have secured&lt;br /&gt;
my further activities quite well.. So I got it almost as&lt;br /&gt;
I wanted it. I joined my other friends and their group.&lt;br /&gt;
So jumping from the so long time top-demogroup to &lt;br /&gt;
the next is almost more than you can dream of. 2nd I&lt;br /&gt;
witnessed the troublemaker RRR got kicked.. And to&lt;br /&gt;
tell you the truth, then it felt good!!&lt;br /&gt;
Sure it was a bad way to end for him, but in my opinion&lt;br /&gt;
he asked for it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''So bottom line is that I am a Camel now!!'''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But what about Skyhigh then ???&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Skyhigh will ofcoz continue in the future...&lt;br /&gt;
I have been thinking about making it an independent&lt;br /&gt;
magazine. You know like in the good old days;&lt;br /&gt;
a Biz Kid magazine.&lt;br /&gt;
But I came to the conclusion that it should better be&lt;br /&gt;
a Camelot magazine. So in the future Skyhigh will be&lt;br /&gt;
released under the Camelot label. Only thing is that I&lt;br /&gt;
am now looking for a new co-editor to replace RRR..&lt;br /&gt;
See the chapter 'help me' for further information&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So to all you out there : don't worry Skyhigh will be&lt;br /&gt;
available for a long time to come.....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As a matter of fact then Raz is working on a new outfit at this very moment. We don't know if it will be&lt;br /&gt;
ready for issue #15 (this issue) or the next. But be&lt;br /&gt;
sure that there'll be a new, or an improved, outfit&lt;br /&gt;
soon.&lt;br /&gt;
Unfortunately I can't tell you anything nor reveal&lt;br /&gt;
what will be changed yet....so all I can say is :&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Wait and see&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Ok to something different===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Finally the antinazi demo was released. After more&lt;br /&gt;
than 12 months of delay I finally got enough parts&lt;br /&gt;
collected to make a demo of an reasonable lenght!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Unfortunately some promised parts didn't show up at&lt;br /&gt;
all, so I had to make a decision and start up the plan&lt;br /&gt;
ning and linking job. So I contacted Raz to make him&lt;br /&gt;
finish the parts. It went like this :&lt;br /&gt;
He 'debugged' the parts and started to link them.&lt;br /&gt;
He then sent me the parts and I crunched/linked the&lt;br /&gt;
rest with a bit help over the phone..&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Actually the demo was finished 8 hours before my&lt;br /&gt;
plane to Lanzerote took off.&lt;br /&gt;
So I hadn't really time to spread it. I did send a copy&lt;br /&gt;
to Slammer directly addressed to 'Herning Messecenter' but I guess it never arrived. So when I got home&lt;br /&gt;
from my holliday I had to make a lot of sendings to&lt;br /&gt;
spread. After quite some hours my sending to 55 persons were finally ready to be spread.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But who cares about all this??? Let's have some information instead...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Ok, the name of the demo is ..Act Now.. and was set to&lt;br /&gt;
be released at the x-mas party 1994 in Herning/Denmark...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It contains parts from various groups; which ones I&lt;br /&gt;
will not reveal here, coz I think you should see the&lt;br /&gt;
demo and find out yourselves. To pep up the demo it&lt;br /&gt;
has been seasoned with pictures and quotations from&lt;br /&gt;
various authors...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The code of the demo is of a rather various quality.&lt;br /&gt;
But as said the entire time, then the primal intention&lt;br /&gt;
with the demo was not to show hightech code or new&lt;br /&gt;
world records, but to show our disrespect against&lt;br /&gt;
the bad phenomenas: nazism and faschism..&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
And I think we succeeded big time. Yes I believe that&lt;br /&gt;
the demo came out quite good in the end...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Say what.... Ya haven't even seen it!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Whaaaaat!!!! - Better get a hand on it and check it out&lt;br /&gt;
Try to ask your usual contacts if they got it. If not&lt;br /&gt;
then you should 'order' it by me at this addy :&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* BIZ KID/CAMELOT&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I would like to get some feedback on the demo from&lt;br /&gt;
some of you out there. Either as a reaction, which I&lt;br /&gt;
can bring in Skyhigh, or maybe as a demo-review in&lt;br /&gt;
your own magazine...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Maybe there's someone out there who are interested&lt;br /&gt;
in doing a kind of report/demoreview for this mag.&lt;br /&gt;
If interested then send it to the addy  above....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Many people have asked if there'll be a second demo&lt;br /&gt;
in the anti-nazi serie!! Someone even asked if there&lt;br /&gt;
would be an 'Anti communism'demo aswell.&lt;br /&gt;
Well maybe... That's all I can say to that! Right now I&lt;br /&gt;
don't feel like organizing a similar demo.. Just see &lt;br /&gt;
how much work the first one required!! Well at least I&lt;br /&gt;
suceeded, (that's more than you can say about D.O.T.Y.&lt;br /&gt;
- sorry Zyron!! No offence.), but it was quite a struggle. So if there is going to be a sequal, then it has to&lt;br /&gt;
someone else who organize it....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But I hope, (and think), that someone will take over&lt;br /&gt;
from here!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So who knows, maybe one day you will recieve :&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===ACT NOW  2===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I, myself, has passed the ball on in the ballgame!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Ok time again to talk about something completely different...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===TURNING BACK THE TIME.....===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Yep turning back the time.... But not like that. &lt;br /&gt;
What you are going to read now is an idea which I like &lt;br /&gt;
to play with; and properbly the same goes for nearly&lt;br /&gt;
everybody scener too!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Wouldn't it be cool to turn back the time to the very&lt;br /&gt;
productive days in the late 80' ties??&lt;br /&gt;
Sure it would.. The good old days where hundreds of&lt;br /&gt;
demos were released every month...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
BUT..... what if we could turn back the time and keep&lt;br /&gt;
the information we have today??&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sometimes I think like this : Damn it would be cool if I&lt;br /&gt;
had these programs back then... And what if I had my&lt;br /&gt;
'talent' at that time???&lt;br /&gt;
Imagine this :&lt;br /&gt;
One of my logos would have made it to the top back  &lt;br /&gt;
then. I would properbly have been the no. 1 gfx   artist&lt;br /&gt;
if had done these logos at that time....&lt;br /&gt;
(Because everybody only did 4 coloured 'logos' then.) &lt;br /&gt;
So a simple 16 col. logo would be a sure winner...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The same goes for coding and music.. Imagine that almost any avarage coded routine would have shocked &lt;br /&gt;
the scene and made you a top-demogroup.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Imagine that while all others where doing simple 1*1&lt;br /&gt;
scrollers + 4 col. logos, you would release filled,&lt;br /&gt;
realtime vector routines...&lt;br /&gt;
Damn you would be the cream of the crop.. Also the&lt;br /&gt;
composers would have been legends. Compared to all&lt;br /&gt;
others you would have proper instruments instead of&lt;br /&gt;
some scratchy noises. Your drums would sound like&lt;br /&gt;
drums really should, and not like throw-ups!!!&lt;br /&gt;
Furthermore you could as the only one use multiplayer tunes...   well doesn't that sound cool???&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
well I know that thinking like this is utopia, but still&lt;br /&gt;
it's a nice thought, isn't it????&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It's always nice to see yourself in that hero-role..&lt;br /&gt;
Eventhough it is only in your fantasy...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But seriously!!!! What if we really had the information&lt;br /&gt;
of today at that time???? What would the demos look&lt;br /&gt;
like today? Proberbly dozens of not-inventented rou&lt;br /&gt;
tines were invented. And I even guess that the pc +&lt;br /&gt;
amiga would play a small role compared to the c64 today... Wish thinking? Well yeah maybe, but it's a nice&lt;br /&gt;
thought.....        THINK ABOUT IT..  =-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Well I guess, it's time to end this chapter before I&lt;br /&gt;
fly away on a little cloud in my imaginary world...&lt;br /&gt;
So I think it's time to say goodbye for now and see ya&lt;br /&gt;
in another chapter.              &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A-b-c'ya..&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
BIZ KID&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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