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		<title>Ymgve at 14:43, 26 June 2007</title>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;       nightshade/scs*trc answers&lt;br /&gt;
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in last issue i brought an article writ-&lt;br /&gt;
ten by crossfire/motiv8. this time i can&lt;br /&gt;
bring you the answer or comment by a&lt;br /&gt;
rather pissed scener.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
let me introduce you to nightshade of&lt;br /&gt;
success*trc - take it away....&lt;br /&gt;
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    -  -- -------------------- --  -&lt;br /&gt;
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this text will be a reply on the note&lt;br /&gt;
spread by crossfire/motiv8 in several&lt;br /&gt;
magazines, including this one.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
it is really starting to become sick to&lt;br /&gt;
see how crossfire tries to talk his way&lt;br /&gt;
out of things by doing what he always&lt;br /&gt;
has been doing,spreading false facts and&lt;br /&gt;
telling lotsa lies around.&lt;br /&gt;
in his note he especailly attacked our&lt;br /&gt;
australian member vengeance,which i find&lt;br /&gt;
very strange as most of the attacks on&lt;br /&gt;
the boards towards him have been done by&lt;br /&gt;
me.but for some reason he thinks it will&lt;br /&gt;
be easier to attack one person at the&lt;br /&gt;
time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
it is no secret that he is the person on&lt;br /&gt;
this scene which i really hate,together&lt;br /&gt;
with many others who got sick and tired&lt;br /&gt;
of his lame acts.the latest happening is&lt;br /&gt;
that even his groupmates such as tricket&lt;br /&gt;
curlin,peacemaker and vortex left him&lt;br /&gt;
behind,and his old friend sun dancer,who&lt;br /&gt;
also got mentioned in his note is even&lt;br /&gt;
giving him a hard time on the boards!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
vengeance wrote a note together with&lt;br /&gt;
derbyshire ram and revealing several of&lt;br /&gt;
the re-cracking which crossfire has been&lt;br /&gt;
doing,and also active came with a note&lt;br /&gt;
revealing the re-cracking of the preview&lt;br /&gt;
from funball.as kim wrote in his note&lt;br /&gt;
derbyshire ram should have backed out by&lt;br /&gt;
telling he had nothing to do with the&lt;br /&gt;
note vengeance wrote.now where did that&lt;br /&gt;
story came from:kims head!just ask derby&lt;br /&gt;
about it,and he will tell you several&lt;br /&gt;
other stories concerning the lame acts&lt;br /&gt;
of crossfire.and this is lie number one&lt;br /&gt;
in his article/note.derbyshire ram did&lt;br /&gt;
not back out,and did write the note to-&lt;br /&gt;
gether with vengeance!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
the only defend he gave on the accusion&lt;br /&gt;
of re-cracking the preview of funball&lt;br /&gt;
from active was that active was just a&lt;br /&gt;
lame group.wow,what a defend.just read&lt;br /&gt;
the note written by riddler and you all&lt;br /&gt;
will know the real facts&lt;br /&gt;
crossfire did re-crack that preview so&lt;br /&gt;
that his group would gain the points&lt;br /&gt;
for the first-release,the same as he has&lt;br /&gt;
been doing with his bingo team releases!&lt;br /&gt;
and then comes his defend on that&lt;br /&gt;
subject,according to him he got the&lt;br /&gt;
originals from met/mayhem,and yes,he got&lt;br /&gt;
those originals already,only more then&lt;br /&gt;
a week after he had released them on the&lt;br /&gt;
us-boards.and this met.mayhem guy is not&lt;br /&gt;
so thrustworthy either.just look in the&lt;br /&gt;
avt and chromance crack of queens at&lt;br /&gt;
$1381,and see that the name cba is&lt;br /&gt;
standing there.and where did they get&lt;br /&gt;
the originals from,yep from met/mayhem!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
so it just seems that these two stick up&lt;br /&gt;
for eachother coz they're both in it up&lt;br /&gt;
to their necks!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
i can remember the note from kim when&lt;br /&gt;
the scene revealed that he was the same&lt;br /&gt;
person at exory/holocaust.he was begging&lt;br /&gt;
the scene for a new chance!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
but an old fox doesn't loose his trick,&lt;br /&gt;
and so crossfire kept on doing the lame&lt;br /&gt;
things he has been doing when he was&lt;br /&gt;
exory!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
it all started when on the highway&lt;br /&gt;
somebody was calling out under dr.zapps&lt;br /&gt;
account.the only person who really&lt;br /&gt;
cared about all of this was kim,posting&lt;br /&gt;
things which supposedly dr.zapp had been&lt;br /&gt;
posting on other boards,so many people&lt;br /&gt;
started smelling a rat.then he started&lt;br /&gt;
to involve cavron in all of this,as he&lt;br /&gt;
was a good pal of dr.zzap and that draw&lt;br /&gt;
the line for me.the funny thing was that&lt;br /&gt;
a call under dr.zzap has been done while&lt;br /&gt;
i was on the phone with him,so that&lt;br /&gt;
should proof that it has never been&lt;br /&gt;
dr.zzap doing it all.and as kim kept on&lt;br /&gt;
coming with so called evidence it was&lt;br /&gt;
obvious that the sick person behind all&lt;br /&gt;
of this was crossfire!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
so me and kim started ragging and raggin&lt;br /&gt;
on eachother.&lt;br /&gt;
to show a few lame acts from kims side&lt;br /&gt;
i will just report on two facts!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
just read the pulse in which kim did&lt;br /&gt;
the releasecharts as pb's list wsn't&lt;br /&gt;
good enough he thought.m8 gained the&lt;br /&gt;
first place,and the issue after the&lt;br /&gt;
correction came.kim had been cheating&lt;br /&gt;
the list of the respected magazine,and&lt;br /&gt;
was never allowed anymore to do the list&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
another fact is that kim is making his&lt;br /&gt;
own games and previews to have more&lt;br /&gt;
releases,the full games of these&lt;br /&gt;
previews have never been seen!and a game&lt;br /&gt;
which he re-coded,and ofcourse also&lt;br /&gt;
recracked as he didn't have the original&lt;br /&gt;
was the ash'n dave game dynamic bench,&lt;br /&gt;
which he ever gave to empire to fix!&lt;br /&gt;
he released it under the name of dynamic&lt;br /&gt;
or so.but the truth came out and no&lt;br /&gt;
responce from kim has been seen on that&lt;br /&gt;
one.at that time he couldn't blame me&lt;br /&gt;
as i wasn't even on the boards,else he&lt;br /&gt;
would have done that!&lt;br /&gt;
kim also brought up a fact that we in&lt;br /&gt;
success*trc released the preview of&lt;br /&gt;
lazer duel,which vengeance got from the&lt;br /&gt;
dungeon (not tow as kim wrote!)and was&lt;br /&gt;
telling what a lame act that was.yep,we&lt;br /&gt;
have indeed released the preview which&lt;br /&gt;
we got from that board,but what is so&lt;br /&gt;
lame about that.several other people had&lt;br /&gt;
already downloaded it to release it,and&lt;br /&gt;
i have seen many version of the 'crack'&lt;br /&gt;
of that preview by other groups being&lt;br /&gt;
spread in the mailscene.kim describes it&lt;br /&gt;
as a real lame act,while in fact it is&lt;br /&gt;
not.what i find lame is making your own&lt;br /&gt;
previews and release them!&lt;br /&gt;
now i already know what kim will write&lt;br /&gt;
to attack this one.we released the prv&lt;br /&gt;
of troddlers,a game coded by enno.but we&lt;br /&gt;
just released it for everybody to see it&lt;br /&gt;
as most likely the whole game will never&lt;br /&gt;
be released.as you can see in the pulse&lt;br /&gt;
of that month it said:troddlers by enno&lt;br /&gt;
(burglar) designs.and as it just looked&lt;br /&gt;
real good we threw it out!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
now i will tell you the latest event&lt;br /&gt;
releasewise from m8.a preview hit the&lt;br /&gt;
boards called wardeal preview which&lt;br /&gt;
turned out to be a fake.it has been&lt;br /&gt;
uploaded by mason/m8 and further being&lt;br /&gt;
spread by another m8 member,who does&lt;br /&gt;
not have any blame,as he probably just&lt;br /&gt;
saw the game on the boards and spread it&lt;br /&gt;
onto other boards.now the funny thing&lt;br /&gt;
was that mason doesn't even have a modem&lt;br /&gt;
anymore,so something was wrong.and first&lt;br /&gt;
steve and cba(kim says in his note he&lt;br /&gt;
does not have anything against trc,well&lt;br /&gt;
cba is a member of that group!) but in a&lt;br /&gt;
few days i was the one who got the blame&lt;br /&gt;
for all of it.i also got a strange mail&lt;br /&gt;
on the dungeon from this'mason' saying&lt;br /&gt;
that m8 would get me real hard,so i was&lt;br /&gt;
convinced it was m8.and another fact is&lt;br /&gt;
that i can't even link an intro infront&lt;br /&gt;
of a game/prv,so how is gods name could&lt;br /&gt;
i have done it.&lt;br /&gt;
but a fact is that mason for sure hasn't&lt;br /&gt;
done that release&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
as kim kept on blaming me for it some&lt;br /&gt;
ragging post have been done by the both&lt;br /&gt;
of us untill all went down in m8,with&lt;br /&gt;
the members leaving and kim not calling&lt;br /&gt;
anymore.&lt;br /&gt;
now,some months after wardeal i know who&lt;br /&gt;
is responsible for doing that release&lt;br /&gt;
and it hasn't been any m8 member,nor has&lt;br /&gt;
it been a scs*trc member,and also not&lt;br /&gt;
steve,who in the first place got the&lt;br /&gt;
blame for it.&lt;br /&gt;
yes kim,i am telling the truth,i could&lt;br /&gt;
have done the same as you,just making up&lt;br /&gt;
a big story out of this thing,but i for&lt;br /&gt;
one stand for the truth,a word which you&lt;br /&gt;
give a strange meaning to!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
i guess this is all i have to reply on&lt;br /&gt;
that low article/note which got spread&lt;br /&gt;
by kim.you never have told the truth&lt;br /&gt;
kim and will probably never do it either&lt;br /&gt;
that's your problem!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
as i have said several times,i'm really&lt;br /&gt;
looking forward seeing you at the danish&lt;br /&gt;
x-mass party at the end of this year!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
this note is only meant against x-fire,&lt;br /&gt;
who i also referred to as kim!as i have&lt;br /&gt;
some cool swappartners in m8,this note&lt;br /&gt;
is not meant against him,but they know&lt;br /&gt;
that already i guess.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
one last word,kim also tried to put the&lt;br /&gt;
blame on me for releasing those games&lt;br /&gt;
under afl such as partygame &amp;amp;amp; aftermath&lt;br /&gt;
which turned out to be re-releases.i&lt;br /&gt;
have already exchanged some mail&lt;br /&gt;
concerning this shit with marc,and he&lt;br /&gt;
knows that we didn't do it.but at that&lt;br /&gt;
time we had some raggings going on&lt;br /&gt;
between afl and scs*trc about the&lt;br /&gt;
release of lemmings.but that had already&lt;br /&gt;
been solved before those games came out&lt;br /&gt;
maybe another attempt on kims side to&lt;br /&gt;
drag scs*trc down.no proof on this one&lt;br /&gt;
so just speculating!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ok,now you all know the difference&lt;br /&gt;
between facts(this note) and fiction (da&lt;br /&gt;
one from kim).he might try to pull more&lt;br /&gt;
stunts in the future,but atleast all of&lt;br /&gt;
you know now that whenever kim writes&lt;br /&gt;
something against some group(mostly&lt;br /&gt;
scs*trc and avt) just read the opposite.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
you've reached the end of this note,i&lt;br /&gt;
hope you all learned something from it,&lt;br /&gt;
if you didn't already know what a dirth&lt;br /&gt;
thrower kim is,you know it now!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
nightshade/success*trc&lt;br /&gt;
speaking for the whole success and trc&lt;br /&gt;
crew!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
may u live 2 see the dawn&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
a new newsletter got spread from x-fire,&lt;br /&gt;
so this text goes on..&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    -  -- -------------------- --  -&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
BUT... first i (biz kid) will print the&lt;br /&gt;
mentioned news letter...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                 N E W S&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
after all the fuzz about motiv8 lately,&lt;br /&gt;
we in the staff of the group has decided&lt;br /&gt;
to send out this newsletter to the most&lt;br /&gt;
populare magazines in the scene today.&lt;br /&gt;
please publish these news and help us to&lt;br /&gt;
get the facts straightened out in the&lt;br /&gt;
peoples minds after all the stories and&lt;br /&gt;
lies spread about us in the last months.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-tricket left motiv8 and took down his&lt;br /&gt;
board dominic. therefore motiv8 has&lt;br /&gt;
found a new board to have their european&lt;br /&gt;
headquarters on. the name of this board&lt;br /&gt;
is mount olympus, and the sysop is bird/&lt;br /&gt;
motiv8.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-peacemaker, curlin, racoon and vortex&lt;br /&gt;
left motiv8 and joined alphaflight for&lt;br /&gt;
reasons unknown. rumours says it was be-&lt;br /&gt;
cause a big bunch of the afl-members&lt;br /&gt;
was living locally to them.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-scs+trc recently did a lot of fakewares&lt;br /&gt;
for alpha flight and motiv8. some months&lt;br /&gt;
ago they cracked two games and put on an&lt;br /&gt;
afl-intro. the name of these wares was&lt;br /&gt;
afterlife and party game. they did this&lt;br /&gt;
to make afl look stupid on the boards.&lt;br /&gt;
a few weeks ago they did the same with&lt;br /&gt;
motiv8. scs+trc released a preview named&lt;br /&gt;
war deal under the motiv8 label. these&lt;br /&gt;
games was all supplied by nightshade and&lt;br /&gt;
uploaded by him aswell, after he hacked&lt;br /&gt;
the passwords of limit/afl and mason/m8.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-isn't it funny how all people who is in&lt;br /&gt;
war with scs+trc gets accused of :&lt;br /&gt;
re-cracking??? first alpha flight was in&lt;br /&gt;
war with them and they got accused of&lt;br /&gt;
recracking lemmings. then motiv8 was in&lt;br /&gt;
war with them, and vengeance accused&lt;br /&gt;
them for re-cracking some titles which&lt;br /&gt;
they could prove was not re-cracks. now&lt;br /&gt;
legend is accused of having recracked a&lt;br /&gt;
game, and guess what? legend and scs+trc&lt;br /&gt;
is in war with each other. isn't that a&lt;br /&gt;
co-incidence???&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
conclusion remains : motiv8 is NOT dead,&lt;br /&gt;
and will not be for a long time, no mat-&lt;br /&gt;
ter what scs+trc and the other lamers&lt;br /&gt;
will do against us!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
     back to the text by nightshade&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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and today i received a newsletter which&lt;br /&gt;
kim has been spreading to all the mags&lt;br /&gt;
again,containing more lies.&lt;br /&gt;
he claims (again) that i put an intro&lt;br /&gt;
of afl infront of the games afterlife( i&lt;br /&gt;
think he means aftermath!) and partygame&lt;br /&gt;
,hacked the password of limit/afl (who&lt;br /&gt;
does not even excist!) and uploaded&lt;br /&gt;
those games to let afl look lame.well as&lt;br /&gt;
i mentioned earlier in this note,i spoke&lt;br /&gt;
with marc about this,and he does not&lt;br /&gt;
blame us for it,so i wonder why again&lt;br /&gt;
kim is so interrested in all of this,&lt;br /&gt;
might he be trying to hide another deed&lt;br /&gt;
done by him,by blaming others for it???&lt;br /&gt;
steve has done a joke when he still was&lt;br /&gt;
in scs*trc,under troep+garbage he&lt;br /&gt;
cracked the game afterlife and if you&lt;br /&gt;
press a key in the trainermenu it saves&lt;br /&gt;
that game on the disc with a m8 intro&lt;br /&gt;
infront of it,atleast we still see the&lt;br /&gt;
fun of the scene,kim doesn't!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
now kim also claims in his newsletter&lt;br /&gt;
that every group who is in war with us&lt;br /&gt;
gets accused of re-cracking.well,we&lt;br /&gt;
have not been in war with afl,it was&lt;br /&gt;
just alot of arguments over the major&lt;br /&gt;
release of this year,being lemmings.and&lt;br /&gt;
we didn't accuse them of re-cracking,&lt;br /&gt;
dytec did.the same for the example kim&lt;br /&gt;
gives about legend.we did not accuse&lt;br /&gt;
legend of re-cracking,afl did.so again&lt;br /&gt;
crossfire has been doing the only thing&lt;br /&gt;
he is good at:spreading lies.&lt;br /&gt;
how long will he continue doing this,&lt;br /&gt;
exory in 89-91,leech/coldcut and all the&lt;br /&gt;
other handles he has been using,and now&lt;br /&gt;
crossfire.but again kim,the x-mas party&lt;br /&gt;
is only 3 weeks away,we will meet there&lt;br /&gt;
and you won't enjoy it!!!!!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
nightshade/success*trc&lt;br /&gt;
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