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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;                rrr says&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
for the very last time i would like to&lt;br /&gt;
present my chapter in the skyhigh. for&lt;br /&gt;
further information concerning this step&lt;br /&gt;
please read the words added at the end&lt;br /&gt;
of this chapter!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- -- ------------------------------ -- -&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
a) the pulse&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
the pulse june was a very brillinat is-&lt;br /&gt;
sue in my opinion. it was objective, in-&lt;br /&gt;
formative and innovative. the editoral&lt;br /&gt;
staff proved this month that the pulse&lt;br /&gt;
is the ruling magazine these days. fol-&lt;br /&gt;
lowing please find some text adapted&lt;br /&gt;
from the pulse.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
at first there's a short extract about&lt;br /&gt;
the never ending discussion: charts and&lt;br /&gt;
votes.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
i have built up a theory myself about&lt;br /&gt;
this odd magazine voting mystery in the&lt;br /&gt;
last couple of months. i believe, that&lt;br /&gt;
the reason for the success of magazines&lt;br /&gt;
like nitro, splash, network, skyhigh&lt;br /&gt;
among many others, is that they have a&lt;br /&gt;
certain number of spreaders, as well as&lt;br /&gt;
votesheet spreaders. some of these many&lt;br /&gt;
spreaders also spread votesheets for&lt;br /&gt;
other magazines, and when they get these&lt;br /&gt;
sheets back, their contacts would have&lt;br /&gt;
voted for their magazine just to be&lt;br /&gt;
friendly towards the person who is col-&lt;br /&gt;
lecting the sheets (or to be frank: they&lt;br /&gt;
are kissing his ass).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
let's continue with another hot topic,&lt;br /&gt;
the endless conflict about the so-called&lt;br /&gt;
elite and the newcomers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
newcomers' socialism vs. elites' libe-&lt;br /&gt;
ralism&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
the scene is an amazing creation. it is&lt;br /&gt;
about 12 years ago the organised scene&lt;br /&gt;
as we know it began, and today we are&lt;br /&gt;
still here to vitness the impossible&lt;br /&gt;
live and bloom. but everything living&lt;br /&gt;
will face borders and dangers on its way&lt;br /&gt;
to meet the natural death, one of them&lt;br /&gt;
is the socialism we are able to vitness&lt;br /&gt;
being brought into the scene by the new-&lt;br /&gt;
comers and sceners from eastern europe.&lt;br /&gt;
this is not a propaganda article to&lt;br /&gt;
fight socialism in its political ideolo-&lt;br /&gt;
gy, on the contrary. the socialism we're&lt;br /&gt;
able to vitness in the scene today has&lt;br /&gt;
no political background, but the phrase&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;we are all the same&amp;quot; which has been&lt;br /&gt;
spread and posted by most newcomers and&lt;br /&gt;
middleclass sceners has a definite mea-&lt;br /&gt;
ning to it, one that originates from the&lt;br /&gt;
most fanatic socialists.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
during the bloom of the pulse magazine,&lt;br /&gt;
we have been herrased by many of these&lt;br /&gt;
socialist types - who claimed we were&lt;br /&gt;
only interested in the elite because we&lt;br /&gt;
wanted to &amp;quot;reach fame and acceptance&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
others claimed we were a bad magazine&lt;br /&gt;
because we &amp;quot;were pretending to be elite&lt;br /&gt;
and were acting arrogant&amp;quot;. clearly both&lt;br /&gt;
of these accusations are contradictions&lt;br /&gt;
to eachother, but what does that tell us&lt;br /&gt;
although it ought to be obvious from our&lt;br /&gt;
editorial, everyone involved with this&lt;br /&gt;
magazine are members of groups respected&lt;br /&gt;
in the world with the status as elite&lt;br /&gt;
(e.g. regina, vibrants, talent, motiv 8,&lt;br /&gt;
chromance, legend and camelot) and with&lt;br /&gt;
comfortable backgrounds of being members&lt;br /&gt;
of elite groups and involved with suc-&lt;br /&gt;
cessful operations. this in my opinion&lt;br /&gt;
is what makes an elite foundation, one&lt;br /&gt;
that ought to be taken seriously. mind&lt;br /&gt;
you, this is not only this operation i&lt;br /&gt;
am refering to, it is the scene as a&lt;br /&gt;
whole. the scene has always had a very&lt;br /&gt;
liberal attitude. the newcomers were&lt;br /&gt;
teased and laughed at, all part of work-&lt;br /&gt;
ing your way up to becoming accepted and&lt;br /&gt;
perhaps shooting your way through to a&lt;br /&gt;
status as an elite scener. but the new-&lt;br /&gt;
comers in the scene today refuse to go&lt;br /&gt;
through that process, going against&lt;br /&gt;
everything the scene constitution stands&lt;br /&gt;
for. the small must respect the larger,&lt;br /&gt;
the system of the liberal scene system -&lt;br /&gt;
but the newcomers only complains about&lt;br /&gt;
the attitude of the elite, calling them&lt;br /&gt;
arrogant and lame. the fact is, they are&lt;br /&gt;
the lame ones, especially lame because&lt;br /&gt;
they show no respect and they are the&lt;br /&gt;
ones acting arrogant.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
following please find my intentions af-&lt;br /&gt;
ter having read these parts of the ex-&lt;br /&gt;
cellent articles:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
true statements!&lt;br /&gt;
i'm active in the editorial staff of&lt;br /&gt;
skyhigh and i'm working hard to see this&lt;br /&gt;
magazine at the top, but fact is that&lt;br /&gt;
the pulse is released regulary on a high&lt;br /&gt;
standart. comparing the content of the&lt;br /&gt;
magazine with concurence productions is&lt;br /&gt;
heading to the conclusion that the pulse&lt;br /&gt;
is definately the best magazine around&lt;br /&gt;
these days.&lt;br /&gt;
before you start to complain i have to&lt;br /&gt;
ask you for an objective review of your&lt;br /&gt;
own work. i agree that it is very nice&lt;br /&gt;
to see an own production at the top but&lt;br /&gt;
if there is a better competitor he de-&lt;br /&gt;
serves the top shot, doesn't he? fair-&lt;br /&gt;
ness is something very important in my&lt;br /&gt;
opinion.&lt;br /&gt;
seeing a better opponent makes me to im-&lt;br /&gt;
prove my work and there are two possibi-&lt;br /&gt;
lities:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1) my work got improved and is more ad-&lt;br /&gt;
   vanced now&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2) competitors' work is still more ad-&lt;br /&gt;
   vanced&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
accept these facts. try to improve your&lt;br /&gt;
work and don't start to complain about&lt;br /&gt;
your skilled opponents.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
some advices for the voters: compare the&lt;br /&gt;
work of the various competitors and vote&lt;br /&gt;
for the persons that deserve your votes!&lt;br /&gt;
don't lick somebody's ass with your vo-&lt;br /&gt;
tes! friendship votes are a manipulation&lt;br /&gt;
of the charts. the intention of the&lt;br /&gt;
charts system was to admire the guys&lt;br /&gt;
that really deserve the position based&lt;br /&gt;
on their abilities, not based on the&lt;br /&gt;
mass of friends they have.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
the other topic was the endless conflict&lt;br /&gt;
elite vs. newcomers. fact is that there&lt;br /&gt;
is a lack of respect from newcomers to-&lt;br /&gt;
wards more experienced sceners. since&lt;br /&gt;
the beginning there have been some guys&lt;br /&gt;
deserving a special attention. that are&lt;br /&gt;
usually people that worked for years on&lt;br /&gt;
a high level to keep the scene and this&lt;br /&gt;
computer alive. this work brought the&lt;br /&gt;
fame and the status of today's elite.&lt;br /&gt;
today's reality looks a little bit dif-&lt;br /&gt;
ferent. becoming famous should not be a&lt;br /&gt;
big problem these days. due to the major&lt;br /&gt;
loss of old legends you can become fa-&lt;br /&gt;
mous within some months but that's some-&lt;br /&gt;
thing most of the newcomers haven't fi-&lt;br /&gt;
gured out yet. why should them work hard&lt;br /&gt;
when it is more simple to attack the so-&lt;br /&gt;
called elite to get attention and a sort&lt;br /&gt;
of fame. it is very easy to rag but it&lt;br /&gt;
is wise to work hard for your position.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
have a look in today's charts! at the&lt;br /&gt;
top you'll find syndrom/tia/crest and&lt;br /&gt;
cruise/elysium. i have never heard any&lt;br /&gt;
complaints from these guys. they worked&lt;br /&gt;
hard and let the warez impress the au-&lt;br /&gt;
dience. it works! remember that both are&lt;br /&gt;
coming from the eastern block of europe,&lt;br /&gt;
syndrom from (east) germany and cruise&lt;br /&gt;
from poland. if someone in 1989 would&lt;br /&gt;
have said that in 1993/94 dudes from&lt;br /&gt;
eastern europe would rule the charts he&lt;br /&gt;
might have earned some laughs but the&lt;br /&gt;
present shows that everything is possi-&lt;br /&gt;
ble. a fitting example are the music or&lt;br /&gt;
graphic charts. just release a compila-&lt;br /&gt;
tion of your work and a continious rise&lt;br /&gt;
in the charts is guaranted. it does not&lt;br /&gt;
depend on the mass of friends you have,&lt;br /&gt;
it really depends on your talent, all&lt;br /&gt;
other tries to enter the charts in an-&lt;br /&gt;
other way are tries to manipulate the&lt;br /&gt;
charts in my opinion.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
another boring topic that a lot of scene&lt;br /&gt;
related persons start to complain about&lt;br /&gt;
the pulse being an elite magazine, just&lt;br /&gt;
for elite dudes only.&lt;br /&gt;
it is easy to prove that the pulse is a&lt;br /&gt;
magazine for the entire scene. just have&lt;br /&gt;
a look into the blackboard, the address&lt;br /&gt;
chapter. have a closer look at here and&lt;br /&gt;
you will see a lot of address that did&lt;br /&gt;
not count to the elite in my opinion.&lt;br /&gt;
better check your sources infront of&lt;br /&gt;
starting to complain.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
anyway, the text above looks like a the&lt;br /&gt;
pulse public relations campaign, but in&lt;br /&gt;
my opinion this is the truth only, - un-&lt;br /&gt;
plugged -. following please find some&lt;br /&gt;
more lines written after this file was&lt;br /&gt;
supposed to be closed but my intention&lt;br /&gt;
was to inform you without any gaps.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
the next interesting topic about the&lt;br /&gt;
pulse was a text written in entropy's&lt;br /&gt;
magazine &amp;quot;tribune&amp;quot;, issue #045. it con-&lt;br /&gt;
tained a reaction from duke concerning&lt;br /&gt;
an article written by nti about regina's&lt;br /&gt;
magazine.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
duke's letter contained a lot of fact&lt;br /&gt;
that are hitting bulls' eye. nti tried&lt;br /&gt;
to play to rule of an innocent lamb&lt;br /&gt;
standing for the good and letting duke,&lt;br /&gt;
an example for the evilish elite scene,&lt;br /&gt;
being a creature sent from hell only to&lt;br /&gt;
slag down himself and entropy.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
fact is that the outfit of the pulse is&lt;br /&gt;
by far better then tribune's. have a&lt;br /&gt;
look at the graphics, at the text dis-&lt;br /&gt;
play and listen to the musics. the mu-&lt;br /&gt;
sics in the pulse were exclusively com-&lt;br /&gt;
posed for the pulse, not ripped like the&lt;br /&gt;
sounds being used in tribune.&lt;br /&gt;
the graphics in the pulse are looking&lt;br /&gt;
fine to me (taste is individual) but my&lt;br /&gt;
monitor switches off automatically when&lt;br /&gt;
i load in the tribune (no offence, but&lt;br /&gt;
the menu logo deserves atleast 5%, as&lt;br /&gt;
there were more then 4 colours used,&lt;br /&gt;
otherwise it would not be worth to be&lt;br /&gt;
mentioned while the chapter logo is an&lt;br /&gt;
almost average logo deserving 30%).&lt;br /&gt;
atleast the coding of the pulse seems to&lt;br /&gt;
be more advanced as they are using the&lt;br /&gt;
proportional text display routine making&lt;br /&gt;
a magazine looking more professional.&lt;br /&gt;
compared with your 40 chars upscroller&lt;br /&gt;
it is definately a better coded magazine&lt;br /&gt;
(that is my very own opinion).&lt;br /&gt;
atleast i would like to point out that&lt;br /&gt;
there was a picture linked infront of&lt;br /&gt;
the tribune #45 while using syndicate's&lt;br /&gt;
(who was a member of beastie boys and&lt;br /&gt;
well known for all his applications of&lt;br /&gt;
tools like timecruncher, cruelcruncher,&lt;br /&gt;
future composer and picture linker) with&lt;br /&gt;
out giving credits to him.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
the other argument of nti was that duke&lt;br /&gt;
is lying while pretending that the pulse&lt;br /&gt;
contains twice as much addresses then&lt;br /&gt;
the tribune. anyway, nti compared the&lt;br /&gt;
pulse #10 (while #11 was already relea-&lt;br /&gt;
sed with two address chapters sorted al-&lt;br /&gt;
phabetically) with the tribune #45. i&lt;br /&gt;
think a real competition contains two&lt;br /&gt;
issues released nearly at the same time,&lt;br /&gt;
and that are the pulse #11 and tribune&lt;br /&gt;
#45. following please find the results&lt;br /&gt;
i have been checking the address chapter&lt;br /&gt;
of the pulse, called blackboard. it was&lt;br /&gt;
divided into two chapters and took over&lt;br /&gt;
the information of nti concerning the&lt;br /&gt;
number of address printed in tribune #45&lt;br /&gt;
the pulse #11: blackboard 1 contained&lt;br /&gt;
122 (!) addresses divided into 1 page&lt;br /&gt;
filled with 2 addresses and 15 pages&lt;br /&gt;
filled with 8 addresses and finally the&lt;br /&gt;
blackboard 2 presented 110 addresses di-&lt;br /&gt;
vided into 13 pages filled with 8 ad-&lt;br /&gt;
dresses and 1 page filled with 7 addres-&lt;br /&gt;
ses.&lt;br /&gt;
the tribune #45 contained, according to&lt;br /&gt;
nti, 107 addresses.&lt;br /&gt;
the result is that duke really was lying&lt;br /&gt;
as the factor is not 2 but 2.17. in my&lt;br /&gt;
opinion his statement is proved now and&lt;br /&gt;
shows who informed the public about the&lt;br /&gt;
truth and who tried to complain.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
it is no shame to be an elite guy. most&lt;br /&gt;
of the sceners dream of that standart,&lt;br /&gt;
but fortunately not everybody can reach&lt;br /&gt;
that standart. the guys that failed on&lt;br /&gt;
their way becoming an elite scener try&lt;br /&gt;
to ruin the reputation of today's elite&lt;br /&gt;
scener because they are jealous about&lt;br /&gt;
the success of other people. i call this&lt;br /&gt;
behaviour simply lame!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
nothing more to add here.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
best regards,&lt;br /&gt;
               rrr/oxyron&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                        june 18th, 1994&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- -- ------------------------------ -- -&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
b) metamorphosis #05&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
it is really nice to see what can happen&lt;br /&gt;
when the fantasy and weird ideas are the&lt;br /&gt;
motivation for magazine editors writing&lt;br /&gt;
unconfirmed speculations just to gain&lt;br /&gt;
some attention.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
i have returned a votesheet filled by&lt;br /&gt;
the afl 1970 hq to trooper/ex-trc&amp;amp;amp;scs,&lt;br /&gt;
the main editor of metamorphosis. this&lt;br /&gt;
guy started to think and came to the re-&lt;br /&gt;
sult that a votesheet returned by rrr&lt;br /&gt;
with some good positions and results for&lt;br /&gt;
him and oxyron must be some kind of ma-&lt;br /&gt;
nipulation and so he accused me for self&lt;br /&gt;
voting.&lt;br /&gt;
following please find the proved and&lt;br /&gt;
true story, exclusively in skyhigh:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
afl 1970 hq is the contact address of&lt;br /&gt;
marc and max for the mailscene. they do&lt;br /&gt;
not like to see their original address&lt;br /&gt;
spread in the public so they opened a&lt;br /&gt;
form of post box. they filled the vote&lt;br /&gt;
sheet when they visited me and i only&lt;br /&gt;
returned the sheet back to the source.&lt;br /&gt;
they have been very impressed when they&lt;br /&gt;
they saw the entire oxyron demos and not&lt;br /&gt;
released parts, graphics and tunes so&lt;br /&gt;
they did not hesitated to vote for us. a&lt;br /&gt;
vote for me can't count as selfvoting&lt;br /&gt;
either as i am mainly active for oxyron&lt;br /&gt;
as you might know.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
furthermore i've nothing to do with the&lt;br /&gt;
goddamned plk address as i'm swapping le&lt;br /&gt;
gal and do not have to hide my address&lt;br /&gt;
and identity in a post office. i hope&lt;br /&gt;
this is cleared by now.&lt;br /&gt;
i'm looking forward to the next issue to&lt;br /&gt;
see some necessary corrections in your&lt;br /&gt;
magazine.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
please keep in mind that i usually do&lt;br /&gt;
not care about my (my group's) position&lt;br /&gt;
in the charts. as oxyron is ruling most&lt;br /&gt;
of the charts these days can not see a&lt;br /&gt;
logical reason to push oxyron up in the&lt;br /&gt;
charts. this is definately not mine nor&lt;br /&gt;
oxyron's policy of competition.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
better prove your intentions before&lt;br /&gt;
spreading false facts to the scene.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
best regards,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
              rrr/oxyron&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                         june 12th, 1994&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- -- ------------------------------ -- -&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
             - -- ----- -- -&lt;br /&gt;
             -  bad bytes  -&lt;br /&gt;
             - -- ----- -- -&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
a new company got built up to make sure&lt;br /&gt;
that the cbm 64 will be supported like&lt;br /&gt;
in the former days. our intention is to&lt;br /&gt;
create some very exciting games combined&lt;br /&gt;
with a high technical standard.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
if you're a coder and want to code games&lt;br /&gt;
for bad bytes (graphics, musics and con-&lt;br /&gt;
cepts) or you want us to sell your fini-&lt;br /&gt;
shed games don't hestitate to contact us&lt;br /&gt;
under:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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 we are waiting for your contributions!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- -- ------------------------------ -- -&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
after the party 1993 i have started over&lt;br /&gt;
to edit some articles for the skyhigh&lt;br /&gt;
when i still was a full motivated cbm 64&lt;br /&gt;
supporter. meanwhile my mind changed to-&lt;br /&gt;
wards 16/32 bit machines so i have to&lt;br /&gt;
reduce the time i am wasting infront of&lt;br /&gt;
the little breadcast.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
my first decision is to stop writing too&lt;br /&gt;
long stories for diskmagazines so i will&lt;br /&gt;
definately reduce my work for the sky-&lt;br /&gt;
high as i do not want to slow down the&lt;br /&gt;
swapping and painting activities. both&lt;br /&gt;
activities will be executed like in for-&lt;br /&gt;
mer days, but wasting time infront of&lt;br /&gt;
boring text-editors like this one can&lt;br /&gt;
not motivate me any longer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
furthermore i am trying to reach new&lt;br /&gt;
aims while entering the commercial soft-&lt;br /&gt;
ware industry as you might have in a&lt;br /&gt;
previous article in this chapter. that&lt;br /&gt;
is a very important subject if you keep&lt;br /&gt;
in mind that it were once upon a time&lt;br /&gt;
the games that gave this machine the po-&lt;br /&gt;
wer to become a legend and the status it&lt;br /&gt;
still has after ten years.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
watch out for soon coming oxyron produc-&lt;br /&gt;
tions on amiga for the good old a500 and&lt;br /&gt;
the aga chipset (yes, two demoes are&lt;br /&gt;
going to be released when the graphics&lt;br /&gt;
are finished - will this ever happen?).&lt;br /&gt;
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best regards,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
              rrr/oxyron&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                         june 18th, 1994&lt;br /&gt;
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		<author><name>Ymgve</name></author>	</entry>

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