Ymgve at 15:01, 25 June 2007

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<pre> rrr to sundancer

while reading the demo reviews in 'the
pulse february' i've found a passage i
didn't liked that well. in my opinion a
little lamer who has never presented an
almost average graphic tries to review
the graphics of qualified artists. the
review of "coma light 11" is a personal
attack against my person.

"the pulse" was an objective (except for
the chapter "monthly releases) magazine
that contained a lot of interesting and
scene concerned texts like for example
the unbeatable chapters called "profile"
and "special assignment". unfortunately
a little lamer joined the staff and this
person is trying to review graphics. i
think it is not necessary to mention
here that this person has never shown
his artistic skills. he only tries to
impress his group pals and the readers
with unqualified critism. i like fair
critism, but i don't like if someone
tries to ruin my reputation. have a look
at his text, reformatted to be used in a
normal 40 chars wide text displayer.

sun dancer about the graphics:

it is okay when people like blackmail
demos. it is also okay if you like sado-
masochism. however, it is not allright
to make as direct style-copy as rrr does
asmodis presents some really nice single
colour graphics, in this demo. biz kid
also proves to be a better graphician,
than a mag-editor. all in all, too bad
this demo wasn't ranked any higher at
the party, it deserves it. with a single
exception, oxyron has a talented gra-
phics-posse. let's hope the public
starts voting for them, at future par-
ties - and a 56% rating for the graphics

1) without any doubts i admire the work
of the dudes in blackmail
2) direct style-copy from blackmail? in
"coma light 11"? who? where? me?
in "cl 11" the following graphics of
mine have been used:
- a landscape
- 5 metamorphosis objects
- a logo
- a 1x1 characterset
the landscape was painted in 1992 and
i haven't seen a landscape like this
so far on the cbm 64. where's the di-
rect style copy?
the metamorphosis objects mainly pre-
sent the credits, a joystick and a
cross. these objects have been drawn
at the oxyron meeting at december,
26th and i can imagine that some guys
had the same idea to include the cre-
dits into the objects. maybe. where's
the direct style-copy?
the logo was painted live at the tcc
1993 in sweden. i painted a candle
with some kind of light reflection in
the "cl" logo. where's the direct
style-copy?
the 1x1 character set was painted
somewhere in 1992 with a little in-
spiration from a "scorpions" cover.
where's the direct style copy?
my contacts got a sending with an
extra file showing a "cl 11" intro/
title pic. the letters of the logos
are painted in the well known "elite"
characterset. some of you might re-
member the software company "elite"
from england. in their adverts in va-
rious software magazines you were
able to see that kind of characters.
i have to agree that bml has painted
a full characterset out of this idea,
even fox/bonzai picked up that idea
and in the demo "europe" by touch you
could find similar characters. i'm
missing here aswell a direct style-
copy as there was a lot more then
only these chars!
where's the problem? how do you call
artists that try to convert graphics
from all those airbrush/fantasy ar-
tists? do you charge them aswell for
direct style-copy? then you've to
attack nearly the all graphic artists
all over the world.
3) asmodis hasn't painted single colour
graphics for "cl 11". show me one.
you won't find one! asmodis has pain-
ted two logos, one for the end part
and one for the turn disk part. both
logos were painted in amica paint so
it can't be a single clour graphic.
4) biz-kid is a very cool graphician but
what's the problem with his magazine?
a lot of people like his magazine
called "skyhigh". is it a problem for
you that "skyhigh" is ranked much
higher in most of the charts?
5) please show me the single exception!
there are a lot of dudes that like my
graphics, otherwise i wouldn't be
ranked in almost an every chart in
top twenty. what's your problem?
what's the reason for trying to ruin
my reputation?

definately it's not ever so easy to pre-
sent a hitting argumentation but when
unqualified persons try to work in a
subject without any knowledge it can
happen that it'll be proved that they're
wrong.
maybe it's a problem for you that duke
asked to join the forces of regina due
to the fact that regina needs a quali-
fied and good artist instead of a lame
pretender who wants to take a sunbath in
the spotlight of the public interest.
please do us a favour: come back if you
learned something about graphic formats,
the past of the cbm 64 and the might of
written texts in so-called elite magazi-
nes!
maybe you're jealous that my "the pulse"
logo looks quite excellent compared with
your graphics. i had to take the light-
grey (#$0f) background to make it easier
to use in the magazine as the background
is lightgrey. shall i say sorry commo-
dore for using the given colours? or
sorry commodore for using the graphical
limits concerning the format?

duke is well known for his professional
attitude so i personally can't under-
stand that a lamer like you is allowed
to edit an own chapter in "the pulse".

i'm waiting for an apology from you in
the next issue of "the pulse" otherwise
you can be sure to meet me at the next
major parties in sweden or denmark.

signed: rrr/oxyron
/alpha flight 1970

february 1994

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i, biz kid, would like to end the chap-
ter like this:

1st i haven't read the article written
by sundancer! but!!!

i am willing to say that, rrr is kinda
right in his words!
at the same time i must correct rrr, and
say that asmodis DID make a hires-single
colour logo!!! the one who says some-
thing like : ' fractals realtime '
(the intro-thing for realtime calculated
fractals!)

2nd you(sundancer) say that i'm a better
graphician, than a mageditor!!
well i guess it's your opinion, it's not
my opinion at all!! on the contreary, i
get a lot of good reactions about my way
editing skyhigh!!
but thanxs for the nize words anyway!

maybe rrr has got a point when he said
that skyhigh gets ranked higher than the
pulse!! i dunno!!!

but let me say something.i myself am not
so fond of the pulse.

the outfit is cool, the the updated text
shower is also much better now!!
you have removed the stupid topics from
the side-border(a very good improvement)
the text is ok aswell!!

then what the fuck's the problem you ask

your topics is in my eyes, booooooring!!
your mag is more or less based on boards
and i find that boring!!!
what i would like to say/tell with this,
is that we (pulse & skyhigh) is covering
two different sides of the beautyful c64
scene today!!

and that is the way i should be!!

you think i'm a better graphician than a
mag-editor. and i find the pulse a bit
boring! fine, and that's it - right!
i didn't feel offended by your words.
and i don't hope you'll by mine!!!
the same goes for the scene : some likes
your mag better than ours and vice versa

get the drift???

said a bit more direct: i (biz kid) have
no intention to slag on neither 'pulse'
or 'sundancer'! i've just tried to show
a third angle to look on the situation!

and to the entire regina - posse i would
like to say :

keep doing your superb mag, and i'll do
the same..then we should let the readers
decide which one the prefer to read! ok?

i hope that you, sundancer will write a
reaction to this chapter!! either you
put it in 'the pulse' or mail it to me!!
then i will bring it in the upcomming
issue of skyhigh!! i hope you will react
like this instead of writing stupid back
stabbing notes..

i'm looking forward to your respond!

best of luck BIZ KID
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Skyhigh 10 ch06 RRR to Sundancer - Revision history

Ymgve at 15:01, 25 June 2007