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		<title>Ymgve at 15:01, 25 June 2007</title>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;              tha biz-mix!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
   yeah once again it os time for the&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                 biz-mix&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
this time i'll bring you some info about&lt;br /&gt;
the anti-nazi-demo!!&lt;br /&gt;
but 1st i would like to talk about some-&lt;br /&gt;
thing which is on my mind!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
            double membership&lt;br /&gt;
            -----------------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
years back every scener were in a group!&lt;br /&gt;
and i mean in ONE group!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
they had different functions like :&lt;br /&gt;
coder, composer, graphician and so on!!&lt;br /&gt;
nothing different compared to the scene&lt;br /&gt;
today, or???&lt;br /&gt;
actually there is one huge difference.&lt;br /&gt;
they were only in one group. today a lot&lt;br /&gt;
of sceners has joined a 2nd group!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                 W  H  Y&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
well i think most of the dudes who join&lt;br /&gt;
a 2nd group are swappers!!&lt;br /&gt;
maybe their group are getting a bit lazy&lt;br /&gt;
this causes that the swapper has no own&lt;br /&gt;
stuff to spread!!  (or rather rare!!)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
the swapper would only like to spread&lt;br /&gt;
own products and not all others.but lack&lt;br /&gt;
of own products forces him to spread for&lt;br /&gt;
others too. otherwise he will have some&lt;br /&gt;
huge delays!!&lt;br /&gt;
well 'i know it' he thinks! i join a 2nd&lt;br /&gt;
group.. then i can spread their stuff as&lt;br /&gt;
well.. in that way i almost always have&lt;br /&gt;
something to spread!!&lt;br /&gt;
well yeah i can blame him for that!!&lt;br /&gt;
everybody hates delays.. but i think it&lt;br /&gt;
is wrong to solve the problem like that!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
i would feel like a traitor to my first&lt;br /&gt;
group if i joined a 2nd group!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
please understand me right!!! when i say&lt;br /&gt;
a 2nd group i do NOT mean a gfx-label or&lt;br /&gt;
a music-label!!!&lt;br /&gt;
these 'sub-groups' are in my eyes fully&lt;br /&gt;
acceptable!!&lt;br /&gt;
when i say 2nd group i mean another pro-&lt;br /&gt;
ducing group!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
an example: i (biz kid) joined say :&lt;br /&gt;
camelot as 2nd group!!!  both oxyron and&lt;br /&gt;
camelot are top demogroups. in this way&lt;br /&gt;
i would always have something to spread!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                so what!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
i still would feel like a traitor to my&lt;br /&gt;
group oxyron. i might sound oldfashioned&lt;br /&gt;
now, but i believe that it is my 'duty'&lt;br /&gt;
and honour to see to, that my group will&lt;br /&gt;
get the best. this means the best gfx !!&lt;br /&gt;
you have to be true to your group. you&lt;br /&gt;
have to concentrate 100% on your group.&lt;br /&gt;
this is the only way to release topdemos&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
if i also have to do gfx for my second&lt;br /&gt;
group, the quality might fall!!&lt;br /&gt;
or maybe i like my 2nd group better than&lt;br /&gt;
the 1st,and therefore do better gfx for&lt;br /&gt;
them!!&lt;br /&gt;
then you really have betrayed your&lt;br /&gt;
'original' group! then i should better&lt;br /&gt;
leave oxyron and join camelot!!&lt;br /&gt;
then i could concentrate 100% again!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
in other words: i don't think a group&lt;br /&gt;
deserves members who are in 2 groups!!&lt;br /&gt;
they should concentrate 100% on doing&lt;br /&gt;
quality stuff!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
then what should a swapper do then!!&lt;br /&gt;
well instead of just joining another&lt;br /&gt;
group i think he should help his group&lt;br /&gt;
to get more active again!!&lt;br /&gt;
instead of just swapping he could start&lt;br /&gt;
coding, drawing or composing!!&lt;br /&gt;
allmost every swapper have 2nd function&lt;br /&gt;
in the group. i suggest they develope&lt;br /&gt;
this talent instead!!!&lt;br /&gt;
in this way the activity rise again, and&lt;br /&gt;
the coders have more material to work&lt;br /&gt;
with!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
another thing could be games!!&lt;br /&gt;
why not start making games?? the scene&lt;br /&gt;
needs a lot of games!!&lt;br /&gt;
the standards in coding, gfx and music&lt;br /&gt;
has developed like hell!! only the game-&lt;br /&gt;
standard hasen't developed!!&lt;br /&gt;
most games are pure lowbudget puke games&lt;br /&gt;
only 2 or 3 times a year a hit is relea-&lt;br /&gt;
sed!!&lt;br /&gt;
we all know there could be some killer-&lt;br /&gt;
games on this machine.just look at :&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'freds back 2' &amp;amp;amp; 'mayhem in monsterland'&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
two game-hits in 1993!!&lt;br /&gt;
well think about it. the more demos and&lt;br /&gt;
the more games we produce the more stuff&lt;br /&gt;
we (the swappers) have to spread..&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
my advice to you all is : leave your 2nd&lt;br /&gt;
group! (and 3rd and 4th!)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
concentrate on one group. help this one&lt;br /&gt;
to get more active again! start develo-&lt;br /&gt;
ping your hidden talents!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
            think about it...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
well i would love to have some feedback&lt;br /&gt;
from some of you 2 group'ers out there!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
send me some words - and i'll bring it&lt;br /&gt;
in the next issue of skyhigh!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
 --------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ok i will continue the antinazi-talk&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
as you know then :  - this demo is THE&lt;br /&gt;
project of 1994. i will work 100% to get&lt;br /&gt;
it released with at least 10-15 parts&lt;br /&gt;
from different groups.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
so far following sceners has promised to&lt;br /&gt;
code a part for the demo!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
          tts + axis of oxyron&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
             devil of noice&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
             raz of camelot&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
            cruzer of camelot&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
             yoda of fictio&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
           betrayer of xentrix&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
              mad of padua&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
            vertigo of guilty&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
       (and some more will follow)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
furthermore my new polish friend CRUISE&lt;br /&gt;
has promised to do a masterpiece for it&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
also FRENCHFLAIR has 2 pictures ready!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
i will also do a interlace pic for this&lt;br /&gt;
and maybe some other gfx!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
so there is alot of activity around the&lt;br /&gt;
demo right now!&lt;br /&gt;
but when will it be out??&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
well all i can say is the deadline is :&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
               1ST of MAY&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
so i hope you will start sending in your&lt;br /&gt;
part(s) as soon as possible - and not&lt;br /&gt;
wait to the last!!!&lt;br /&gt;
-coz we (raz and i) will have a lot of&lt;br /&gt;
work to do. you know linking, timing and&lt;br /&gt;
so on!!  so the sooner the better!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
besides the above mentioned, there is a&lt;br /&gt;
lot of other sceners who have joined in!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
          check  ou this list!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
         anti-nazi demo members&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
GROUP      HANDEL      STATUS&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
noice      DEVIL       coder, org.&lt;br /&gt;
 ---       draz        graphics&lt;br /&gt;
 ---       decoder     music&lt;br /&gt;
 ---       doxx        code.music&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
oxyron     BIZ KID     graphics, org.&lt;br /&gt;
 ---       tts         code&lt;br /&gt;
 ---       axis        code&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
camelot    RAZ         coder, org.&lt;br /&gt;
 ---       cruzer      code&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
fiction    yoda        code&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
no name    gigabyte    spreader&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
chromance  maja        spreader&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
slash      poeba       cover&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
guilty     vertigo     code&lt;br /&gt;
 ---       fct         gfx/covers&lt;br /&gt;
 ---       kathulo     (amiga)&lt;br /&gt;
 ---       filth       music/covers&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
jam/acy..  frenchflair gfx&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
padua      mad         code,gfx&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
xentrix    betrayer    code,gfx&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
taboo      acidchild   spread&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
vis.mind   cubehead    music&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
ex-acy     digahole    spread&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
elysium    cruise      gfx&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
you see a lot of known and proud sceners&lt;br /&gt;
all fighting for a good cause.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
and we would also like to have you on&lt;br /&gt;
the list.&lt;br /&gt;
remember that the most important thing&lt;br /&gt;
is to be represented, to show your/our&lt;br /&gt;
opinion and disrespect against nazism !!&lt;br /&gt;
this is what really counts!! ofcoz we&lt;br /&gt;
would like to see some smashing parts,&lt;br /&gt;
but most important is to be there!!!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
let's show the world our disrespect for&lt;br /&gt;
the nazis in a nonviolent way.&lt;br /&gt;
we shall fight them verbally, and laugh&lt;br /&gt;
of them instead of violence.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
       this is one way to do it!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
why not be a part of this very important&lt;br /&gt;
list!!! - why not join forces!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
     what we are searching for is :&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    coders   - singlecoder or groups&lt;br /&gt;
    musician - musiclabels or groups&lt;br /&gt;
    gfx'er   - gfxlabels or groups&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
          but all is welcome..&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
some technial details!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
grafix - all formats     (fli,&lt;br /&gt;
                          multicolor,&lt;br /&gt;
                          hires,&lt;br /&gt;
                          sprites a.s.o)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
music  - all formats      single, double&lt;br /&gt;
                          quadro, octa&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
code   - the program should make a jump&lt;br /&gt;
         to a specific adress when space&lt;br /&gt;
         is pressed. it should be pos-&lt;br /&gt;
         sible to change this jump.&lt;br /&gt;
         please send a crunched version&lt;br /&gt;
         aswell as a raw file, and rem-&lt;br /&gt;
         ember to inform us where we can&lt;br /&gt;
         change the jump.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
              and remember&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
what you make in your part is all up to&lt;br /&gt;
you..  also the quality is not that im-&lt;br /&gt;
protant, what is important is to be a&lt;br /&gt;
part of this anti-nazi demo..&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
what really counts is to fight a battle&lt;br /&gt;
against the growing nazism..&lt;br /&gt;
we have to show our disrespect for this&lt;br /&gt;
phenomena; for this lowlife attitude!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
       send your contribution to:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
         BIZ KID of OXYRON   (noe)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
         XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
         XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
         XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
         XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
and remember the dead line is MAY 1ST !!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
     i'm waiting for contributions!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                                BIZ KID&lt;br /&gt;
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