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		<title>Ymgve at 00:25, 25 June 2007</title>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;              tha biz-mix!&lt;br /&gt;
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yo yo yo, welcome to another edition of&lt;br /&gt;
             'tha biz-mix!'&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
last time i emptied my head for a lot of&lt;br /&gt;
wacko thoughts.&lt;br /&gt;
i haven't got any feedback yet. i guess&lt;br /&gt;
no one disagrees then - or??&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
i would like to get alot of reactions on&lt;br /&gt;
the c-64 scene today!!&lt;br /&gt;
so come on dudes! sit down and shake yar&lt;br /&gt;
head a bit!!&lt;br /&gt;
let all these thoughts slip out of your&lt;br /&gt;
head and put 'em down in an text-editor!&lt;br /&gt;
no matter what editor you use i'll con-&lt;br /&gt;
vert it to skyhigh - format!!&lt;br /&gt;
so don't be shy!! every single thought&lt;br /&gt;
is highly appriciated!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ok enough about the c64 scene today!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
a lot of newcomers don't know shit about&lt;br /&gt;
the history of the c64 and its scene.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
i still remember the good old times when&lt;br /&gt;
we saw a lot of good and revolutionary&lt;br /&gt;
code from the groups.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
who can remember when 1001 crew made the&lt;br /&gt;
first sideborderscroll or the legendary&lt;br /&gt;
tmc with all his great demo's such as&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
               game-music&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 try take a look back and remember all&lt;br /&gt;
the dope routines which was invented in&lt;br /&gt;
the past.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
routines as :&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
          a simple split screen&lt;br /&gt;
        (and later on rasterbars)&lt;br /&gt;
            all borders open&lt;br /&gt;
                 esco's&lt;br /&gt;
                   fld&lt;br /&gt;
              dycp or dysp&lt;br /&gt;
                tech tech&lt;br /&gt;
             hardware scroll&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
   and some of the 'latest' inventions&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                 vectors&lt;br /&gt;
                  plots&lt;br /&gt;
                  bobs&lt;br /&gt;
                 plasmas&lt;br /&gt;
                   fli&lt;br /&gt;
              interlace fli&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    well all these routines are today&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
            ''everyday-code''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
but just think back some years and&lt;br /&gt;
everybody would have sworn that alot of&lt;br /&gt;
them couldn't be done ever...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
        but they did anyway.....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
who remember the war between sodan and&lt;br /&gt;
the 1001 crew.  not to mention the :&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    federation against danish elite..&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
yo these were the days were we saw a lot&lt;br /&gt;
of cracks from groups like :&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
               dynamic duo&lt;br /&gt;
                  a.c.e&lt;br /&gt;
                 hotline&lt;br /&gt;
                1001 crew&lt;br /&gt;
              the softteam&lt;br /&gt;
               u.s.a team&lt;br /&gt;
                  a.c.c&lt;br /&gt;
          swedish cracking crew&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
      and the list goes on forever&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
well at the time there was a whole lot&lt;br /&gt;
more games than today. but at that time&lt;br /&gt;
you could make alot of money by selling&lt;br /&gt;
crax.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
       well more nostalgic talk..&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
try sit back and remember the times.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
remember the music-wizards  ..&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                people as&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
               ROB HUBBARD&lt;br /&gt;
              MARTIN GALWAY&lt;br /&gt;
                MATT GRAY&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
yeeaahhh boy - these were the days...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
but nowadays a lot of people don't give&lt;br /&gt;
a shit about things like that or a lot&lt;br /&gt;
don't even know about all that...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
and that's wrong. so i'll try to give a&lt;br /&gt;
hand, and help you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
more specific then i am looking for&lt;br /&gt;
information about everythig concerning&lt;br /&gt;
the scene:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
information like :&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- who cracked the 1st game&lt;br /&gt;
- who started making intros&lt;br /&gt;
- who started making demos&lt;br /&gt;
- who made the first magazine&lt;br /&gt;
- which groups where at the beginning&lt;br /&gt;
  and up to now&lt;br /&gt;
- which group is the oldest and still&lt;br /&gt;
  active&lt;br /&gt;
- which person/group invented a new&lt;br /&gt;
  routine (date/year)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
         and so on and so on ..&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
loooong time ago it was my idea to start&lt;br /&gt;
up a chapter bringing some c64-history!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
i asked and encouraged people to mail me&lt;br /&gt;
some facts or stories from the past!!&lt;br /&gt;
but not much happend! - actually only 1&lt;br /&gt;
guy did so..&lt;br /&gt;
diz guy was devil of noice (yeah i guess&lt;br /&gt;
you've heard that name mentioned in this&lt;br /&gt;
magazine before!)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
he collected some facts on the founding&lt;br /&gt;
on horizon!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
he and i would like to thanx boogaloo&lt;br /&gt;
for the great help he has given!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ok check it out yourself!:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
          - ----------------- -&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
in 1988 there was a fusion between&lt;br /&gt;
SSS and THUNDERCATS, they became HORIZON&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
in october '88 they discovered the fli&lt;br /&gt;
but never released it, the first fli&lt;br /&gt;
was later released by BLACK MAIL...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
in the beginning of 1989 MSD (micro&lt;br /&gt;
systems digital technology) joined,&lt;br /&gt;
and ruled ever since....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
they were: BOOGALOO, EXILON and RUSH.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
msd's most famous demo was and still is&lt;br /&gt;
BONANZA, with the first D011 scroll&lt;br /&gt;
ever made...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
in the beginning of 1990 2 more members&lt;br /&gt;
joined, from the at that time very cool&lt;br /&gt;
fairlight: pernod and judge...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
horizon have always been ruling the&lt;br /&gt;
scene, and they still do...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
their demos are known to be 2 years&lt;br /&gt;
ahead of all the others...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
          - ----------------- -&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
well you see.here's a lot of information&lt;br /&gt;
that i presume you didn't knew!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
and that's what it's all about..&lt;br /&gt;
sharing stories, memories and knowledge&lt;br /&gt;
with eachother!&lt;br /&gt;
but i can't manage to do it on my own.&lt;br /&gt;
i need the help of all you out there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
especially the old-timers are wanted.&lt;br /&gt;
so come on all you out there. all you&lt;br /&gt;
who once in the past founded one of all&lt;br /&gt;
these famous groups!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
who started legends like :&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
dominators, ikari, 1001 crew, sss, afl70&lt;br /&gt;
...... (and the list goes on and on!)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
at the moment lot's of groups are gettin&lt;br /&gt;
rebuild. -groups like alphaflight 1970,&lt;br /&gt;
vision or the fake ikari..  there must&lt;br /&gt;
be someone who knows the story!!&lt;br /&gt;
why not share it with the rest of us??&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
please mail it to me and i see to that&lt;br /&gt;
it will be brought to the masses!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
well i better stop for now, but please&lt;br /&gt;
do me a favour and think about it! try&lt;br /&gt;
to remember things which happend in the&lt;br /&gt;
scene back then! write it down and share&lt;br /&gt;
it with the rest of us!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
         and my addy once more :&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
            biz kid of oxyron&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
         XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
         XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
         XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
         XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
and over to another suject!&lt;br /&gt;
our anti nazi demo! - this demo is THE&lt;br /&gt;
project of 1994. i will work 100% to get&lt;br /&gt;
it released with at least 10-15 parts&lt;br /&gt;
from different groups.&lt;br /&gt;
but let's check out who has joined in by&lt;br /&gt;
now:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
         anti-nazi demo members&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
GROUP      HANDEL      STATUS&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
noice      DEVIL       coder, org.&lt;br /&gt;
 ---       draz        graphics&lt;br /&gt;
 ---       decoder     music&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
oxyron     BIZ KID     graphics, org.&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
camelot    RAZ         coder, org.&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
fiction    yoda        code&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
no name    gigabyte    spreader&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
           maja        spreader&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
slash      poeba       cover&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
guilty     vertigo     code&lt;br /&gt;
 ---       fct         gfx/covers&lt;br /&gt;
 ---       kathulo     (amiga)&lt;br /&gt;
 ---       filth       music/covers&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
but we want more.. a lot more..&lt;br /&gt;
why not be a part of this very important&lt;br /&gt;
list!!! - why not join forces!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
     what we are searching for is :&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    coders   - singlecoder or groups&lt;br /&gt;
    musician - musiclabels or groups&lt;br /&gt;
    gfx'er   - gfxlabels or groups&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
          but all is welcome..&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
some technial details!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
grafix - all formats     (fli,&lt;br /&gt;
                          multicolor,&lt;br /&gt;
                          hires,&lt;br /&gt;
                          sprites a.s.o)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
music  - all formats      single, double&lt;br /&gt;
                          quadro, octa&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
code   - the program should make a jump&lt;br /&gt;
         to a specific adress when space&lt;br /&gt;
         is pressed. it should be pos-&lt;br /&gt;
         sible to change this jump.&lt;br /&gt;
         please send a crunched version&lt;br /&gt;
         aswell as a raw file, and rem-&lt;br /&gt;
         ember to inform us where we can&lt;br /&gt;
         change the jump.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
what you make in your part is all up to&lt;br /&gt;
you..  also the quality is not that im-&lt;br /&gt;
protant, what is important is to be a&lt;br /&gt;
part of this anti-nazi demo..&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
what really counts is to fight a battle&lt;br /&gt;
against the growing nazism..&lt;br /&gt;
we have to show our disrespect for this&lt;br /&gt;
phenomena; for this lowlife attitude!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
well i hope several guyz will join in&lt;br /&gt;
after this encouragement.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
later a note will be made and spreaded&lt;br /&gt;
for the masses..   i (biz kid), raz and&lt;br /&gt;
devil will work out a note with more spe&lt;br /&gt;
cific informations and spread it.&lt;br /&gt;
i guess this note will get spreaded at&lt;br /&gt;
the x-mas party in denmark!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ok that's all for now.i hope to see your&lt;br /&gt;
name on the list next time!!!!&lt;br /&gt;
until then ....see ya......&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                                BIZ KID&lt;br /&gt;
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