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|PROPAGANDA                   |ISSUE 21|&lt;br /&gt;
|PROPAGANDA                   |        |&lt;br /&gt;
+----+                        |        |&lt;br /&gt;
+-----------------------+     |   **   |&lt;br /&gt;
|    Intelligent and    |     |   \/   |&lt;br /&gt;
|freethinking journalism|     |        |&lt;br /&gt;
+-----------------------+     +--------+&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Dear readers,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It has been far too long since I last&lt;br /&gt;
met you. Entering the new year, there&lt;br /&gt;
were problems occuring in launching the&lt;br /&gt;
magazine, and keeping a clear focus we&lt;br /&gt;
have noone to blame but ourselves for&lt;br /&gt;
the fact. My steady compagnion and co-&lt;br /&gt;
editor DEFF has during a long period&lt;br /&gt;
been unable to call out, thus not being&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
able to finish the releasecharts at de-&lt;br /&gt;
sired time. There were days when I was&lt;br /&gt;
dambling with the idea of downloading&lt;br /&gt;
all released software for him, but with&lt;br /&gt;
all my efforts already in progress,&lt;br /&gt;
there was no possibility I could find&lt;br /&gt;
time for this. Instead, our readers&lt;br /&gt;
had to be set aside, left waiting im-&lt;br /&gt;
patiently for the most controversial&lt;br /&gt;
magazine on the market today.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
During our slight period of absence,&lt;br /&gt;
I was startled seeing magazines dupl-&lt;br /&gt;
icating our ideas and concepts, but&lt;br /&gt;
with THE PULSE being released, I know&lt;br /&gt;
you have been supplied a fine source&lt;br /&gt;
of information and a stimulating read.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
However, we are focusing on a new year.&lt;br /&gt;
Looking back at 1995, I regard it as one&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
of the most intense years ever on the&lt;br /&gt;
market. What made the year particulary&lt;br /&gt;
interesting in my eyes, were 5 evident&lt;br /&gt;
factors. Together, they have continued&lt;br /&gt;
the progress of our civilized structure&lt;br /&gt;
and triggered an energetic boost for&lt;br /&gt;
the parts involved. Let us together&lt;br /&gt;
make 1996 just as good.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                     Yours sincerly,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                        Newscopy&lt;br /&gt;
                         Editor&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 ______________________________________&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
+----------------------+&lt;br /&gt;
|WHAT REPRESENTED 1995?|&lt;br /&gt;
+----------------------+&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 THE IMPORTANCE OF MAGAZINES&lt;br /&gt;
  The value of competitive, qualified&lt;br /&gt;
  magazines grew immensly. During the&lt;br /&gt;
  year we saw some pieces of very int-&lt;br /&gt;
  elligent and freethinking pieces of&lt;br /&gt;
  journalism. Never before have groups&lt;br /&gt;
  bothered as much about being covered&lt;br /&gt;
  in the public spotlight. Never before&lt;br /&gt;
  have debates been battled on a more&lt;br /&gt;
  stimulating level and never before&lt;br /&gt;
  have we been able to obtain such a&lt;br /&gt;
  wide range of magazines that not&lt;br /&gt;
  only cover their work with one-liner&lt;br /&gt;
  news, charts and advertisements.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 ______________________________________&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 THE POLISH EXPLOSION&lt;br /&gt;
  1995 was the year when Poland came&lt;br /&gt;
  through a pubertic phase and entered&lt;br /&gt;
  the market internationally. With an&lt;br /&gt;
  activity similar to the one many&lt;br /&gt;
  other countries experienced in late&lt;br /&gt;
  1988, early 1989, most wellestablish-&lt;br /&gt;
  ed groups have added Polish sections.&lt;br /&gt;
  Naturally, there is also a handful&lt;br /&gt;
  Polish-based groups that race for&lt;br /&gt;
  the top. Looking at the disks I re-&lt;br /&gt;
  ceived through the year, I'd say that&lt;br /&gt;
  almost 6O% of the demos, music and&lt;br /&gt;
  graphics have their roots in Poland.&lt;br /&gt;
  I cannot help to gasp at the state-&lt;br /&gt;
  ment and hope that the trend will&lt;br /&gt;
  maintain.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 ______________________________________&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 THE AWARENESS OF THE INTERNET&lt;br /&gt;
  Most established groups found their&lt;br /&gt;
  way to the net. The boardscene has&lt;br /&gt;
  been on a steady decline over the&lt;br /&gt;
  past 3 years, and the need for a new&lt;br /&gt;
  powerful medium came naturally. Even&lt;br /&gt;
  though, we are at a fairly early&lt;br /&gt;
  stage, public FTP's have been set up,&lt;br /&gt;
  and people visit the 64-channel on&lt;br /&gt;
  the IRC on regular basis. I'd say&lt;br /&gt;
  that during 1995, there was as much&lt;br /&gt;
  action taking place on the net as&lt;br /&gt;
  there were on the boards, and being&lt;br /&gt;
  at an early phase, that is very im-&lt;br /&gt;
  pressive. Quite easily, a new net-&lt;br /&gt;
  user can find his fellow compagnions&lt;br /&gt;
  from the 64 - in a whole new world.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  _____________________________________&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 DEMODIVISIONS&lt;br /&gt;
  It is interesting looking at the&lt;br /&gt;
  trends in history. In the early days,&lt;br /&gt;
  crackinggroups cracked and demogroups&lt;br /&gt;
  made the demos. During the late 8O's&lt;br /&gt;
  and early 9O's the trend changed and&lt;br /&gt;
  merged the two. Over the past years,&lt;br /&gt;
  we have been heading for the older&lt;br /&gt;
  system, since demogroups very rarely&lt;br /&gt;
  release on an intense basis. During&lt;br /&gt;
  1995 things changed dramatically.&lt;br /&gt;
  ONSLAUGHT, F4CG, AVANTGARDE and MOTIV8&lt;br /&gt;
  reinforced their productive sections,&lt;br /&gt;
  and it leaves room for discussion,&lt;br /&gt;
  whether we will experience further&lt;br /&gt;
  expansion of the same kind during&lt;br /&gt;
  1996.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 ______________________________________&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 COMEBACKS&lt;br /&gt;
  It may very well be a sense of nost-&lt;br /&gt;
  algia sweeping over our world, but&lt;br /&gt;
  many faces and establishments have&lt;br /&gt;
  returned to the 64. During the year&lt;br /&gt;
  HITMEN, ARROGANCE, THE PULSE, TRISTAN,&lt;br /&gt;
  VIBRANTS, COUNT ZERO, ANTITRACK,&lt;br /&gt;
  and BINJINX among others rocked the&lt;br /&gt;
  boat again, and the trend has so far&lt;br /&gt;
  continued throughout the new year.&lt;br /&gt;
  Also focusing on Internet, it will&lt;br /&gt;
  be easier for many to find their&lt;br /&gt;
  way back to their roots - be it on&lt;br /&gt;
  an active or friendly basis.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 ______________________________________&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
These factors, my friends, are what I&lt;br /&gt;
would say made the year 1995 a stimu-&lt;br /&gt;
lating year. Knowing we have never&lt;br /&gt;
showed signs to cease our activities,&lt;br /&gt;
but instead increase them, I gather&lt;br /&gt;
1996 will be just as entertaining.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Evaluating the possible signs that will&lt;br /&gt;
be evident during 1996, I have conclud-&lt;br /&gt;
ed 4 somewhat trembling factors. Please&lt;br /&gt;
keep in mind, that this is not a guide-&lt;br /&gt;
line, but a possible evalution of what&lt;br /&gt;
to expect.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 +-------------------------+&lt;br /&gt;
 |WHAT WILL REPRESENT 1996?|&lt;br /&gt;
 +-------------------------+&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 CZECH REPUBLIC - A NEW MARKET&lt;br /&gt;
  With Poland being established on the&lt;br /&gt;
  map, the market is seeking new blood.&lt;br /&gt;
  THE RULING COMPANY &amp;amp;amp; SUCCESS recently&lt;br /&gt;
  added a section in the Czech Republic&lt;br /&gt;
  and the concept has already atrract-&lt;br /&gt;
  ed other groups. During 1995, there&lt;br /&gt;
  was quite a remarkable sign of move-&lt;br /&gt;
  ment taking place. It is highly pro-&lt;br /&gt;
  bable that we will see the establish-&lt;br /&gt;
  ed groups adding new sections, as&lt;br /&gt;
  well as new Czechian groups only.&lt;br /&gt;
  Games from the Czech Republic have&lt;br /&gt;
  already started to appear on the&lt;br /&gt;
  market, and according to our sources&lt;br /&gt;
  the amount will grow steadily during&lt;br /&gt;
  the year.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 ______________________________________&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 INTERNETADAPTION&lt;br /&gt;
  Most groups are already working on&lt;br /&gt;
  an intense basis to establish them-&lt;br /&gt;
  selves on the Internet. With a ste-&lt;br /&gt;
  ady decline boardwise, the value of&lt;br /&gt;
  the net will continue to grow on the&lt;br /&gt;
  scene. Most probably, the releases&lt;br /&gt;
  will be as highly credited as on the&lt;br /&gt;
  boards, and the amount of FTP's will&lt;br /&gt;
  rise. Compensating the subs from the&lt;br /&gt;
  boards, we will probably experience&lt;br /&gt;
  a flood of mailinglists for the 64-&lt;br /&gt;
  scene in the not too far distant as&lt;br /&gt;
  well as an increased interest in the&lt;br /&gt;
  64-channel on the IRC. During 1996,&lt;br /&gt;
  my guess is that the net will finally&lt;br /&gt;
  be entertaining for us.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 ______________________________________&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 NOSTALGIAWAVES&lt;br /&gt;
  The nostalgic factor started quite&lt;br /&gt;
  long ago. TRIBUTE 1994 was one of&lt;br /&gt;
  the fist public signs, but we have&lt;br /&gt;
  also seen groups concentrating on&lt;br /&gt;
  old-school software, floods of come-&lt;br /&gt;
  backs and an oldtimer-mailinglist on&lt;br /&gt;
  the Internet. Mainly due to the net,&lt;br /&gt;
  I sense a flood of comebacks and a&lt;br /&gt;
  more established trade of old soft-&lt;br /&gt;
  ware. In fact, plenty of people are&lt;br /&gt;
  already exchanging old software, and&lt;br /&gt;
  also keeping in mind there is a new&lt;br /&gt;
  generation of sceners (and countries)&lt;br /&gt;
  that have not experienced much from&lt;br /&gt;
  the past, the concept will continue&lt;br /&gt;
  to grow.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 ______________________________________&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 DEMODECLINE?&lt;br /&gt;
  I am slightly skeptical concerning&lt;br /&gt;
  this evalution. REFLEX are rumour-&lt;br /&gt;
  ed to be focusing on the PC, and we&lt;br /&gt;
  will never see anything from fine&lt;br /&gt;
  old labels like LIGHT, CENSOR or&lt;br /&gt;
  FAIRLIGHT again. Still, OXYRON, CREST,&lt;br /&gt;
  BYTERAPERS and even ORIGO are promi-&lt;br /&gt;
  sing to continue during the new year.&lt;br /&gt;
  Looking at old collections, I con-&lt;br /&gt;
  sider the demos being the best of&lt;br /&gt;
  memorables from my years on the scene,&lt;br /&gt;
  and I can only hope we will continue&lt;br /&gt;
  being fed with new, intruiging re-&lt;br /&gt;
  leases.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 ______________________________________&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 +-----------------------+&lt;br /&gt;
 |I                      |    [Debate]&lt;br /&gt;
_|Intelligent and        |______________&lt;br /&gt;
 |freethinking journalism|&lt;br /&gt;
 +-----------------------+&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It has been both a stimulating and&lt;br /&gt;
entertaining debate to follow over the&lt;br /&gt;
past few months. Headlining PROPAGANDA,&lt;br /&gt;
VANDALISM and DOMINATION, it became&lt;br /&gt;
clear that ONSLAUGHT took great offence&lt;br /&gt;
in being criticized for their intense&lt;br /&gt;
recruitment and dismissal of members.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Furthermore, the concept behind PROPA-&lt;br /&gt;
GANDA was officially questioned and I&lt;br /&gt;
was criticized for my abilities to pro-&lt;br /&gt;
vide the scene with a solid piece of&lt;br /&gt;
journalism. Now, PROPAGANDA has over&lt;br /&gt;
the past years had a freethinking, and&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
intelligent concept. The issue has not&lt;br /&gt;
only been to report on happenings and&lt;br /&gt;
events, but to make our readers stim-&lt;br /&gt;
ulated and not leave every issue just&lt;br /&gt;
shrugging shoulders. Looking at us to-&lt;br /&gt;
day, I'd say we succeeded in doing so.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We have never done this to gain more&lt;br /&gt;
readers. We have never done this to&lt;br /&gt;
rocket the charts. Today there is an&lt;br /&gt;
incredible variety of magazines, all&lt;br /&gt;
of various quality, and it is obvious&lt;br /&gt;
that every scener picks a favorite of&lt;br /&gt;
his own. Still, we believe in our con-&lt;br /&gt;
cept and will continue to write the&lt;br /&gt;
truth - scandal or not. We will con-&lt;br /&gt;
tinue to criticize, question and accl-&lt;br /&gt;
aim what we find probable - be it on&lt;br /&gt;
the expense of friend, enemies or even&lt;br /&gt;
the entire magazine. That is what we&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
consider being intelligent journalism,&lt;br /&gt;
and as long as we receive support for&lt;br /&gt;
what we do, we will continue with it.&lt;br /&gt;
Wouldn't it be incredibly dull having&lt;br /&gt;
1O different magazines, reporting the&lt;br /&gt;
same news, the same way? Would there&lt;br /&gt;
even be need for 1O different magazines&lt;br /&gt;
reporting the same news, the same way?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The answer is no.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In DOMINATION 6, the editor JAZZCAT&lt;br /&gt;
continued the debate and questioned the&lt;br /&gt;
entire ONSOAP-AFFAIR. &amp;quot;HOW CAN AN EDIT-&lt;br /&gt;
OR TALK ABOUT SCANDALS WITH FIRSTHAND&lt;br /&gt;
EXPERIENCE WHEN THE EDITOR DOESN'T EVEN&lt;br /&gt;
CALL THE USA-BOARDS ON ANY REGULAR BAS-&lt;br /&gt;
IS?&amp;quot;. JAZZCAT is correct in his state-&lt;br /&gt;
ment, and fact is I do not call the&lt;br /&gt;
American boards on a regular basis, as&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I can cover all my needs for PROPAGANDA&lt;br /&gt;
on a weekly call as well as support over&lt;br /&gt;
the Internet. However, at the time when&lt;br /&gt;
the ONSLAUGHT-AFFAIR (later titled the&lt;br /&gt;
ONSOAP-AFFAIR) saw light of day, through&lt;br /&gt;
the launch of PROPAGANDA #19, I was fre-&lt;br /&gt;
quenting the American boards twice a&lt;br /&gt;
day, and since it also was a time when&lt;br /&gt;
people could call over AT&amp;amp;amp;T using credit&lt;br /&gt;
cards I had all my staff on the boards&lt;br /&gt;
on a daily basis as well. Furthermore,&lt;br /&gt;
communicating over the IRC as well as&lt;br /&gt;
with my entire staff (Speaking to DEFF&lt;br /&gt;
3 times a week and TRANZIIE daily), I'd&lt;br /&gt;
say we have solid grounds to stand on.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
During 1996, the effects of the debate&lt;br /&gt;
have been particulary interesting to&lt;br /&gt;
follow. Both IRC and the boards have&lt;br /&gt;
been subject of the affair, and other&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
people have involved themselves in the&lt;br /&gt;
widely discussed topic. HOMEBOY was at&lt;br /&gt;
one point very entertaining criticizing&lt;br /&gt;
us; &amp;quot;PROFESSIONALISM? YOU MISSED CYBORG&lt;br /&gt;
IN THE AVANTGARDE MEMBERSTATUS AND MIS-&lt;br /&gt;
SPELLED VENGEANCE'S NAME SEVERAL TIMES.&lt;br /&gt;
PROFESIONALLISM?&amp;quot;, which showed just&lt;br /&gt;
how weak some people's arguments were&lt;br /&gt;
in the debate. As if I ever complained&lt;br /&gt;
that JAZZCAT nominated JOE/WRATH DESIGNS&lt;br /&gt;
as artist of the year 1995 for his work&lt;br /&gt;
in COURTSEY OF SOVIET, that was releas-&lt;br /&gt;
ed late 1994? (Now I did!) As if I ever&lt;br /&gt;
complained that HOMEBOY couldn't take&lt;br /&gt;
the heat himself when we were discussing&lt;br /&gt;
the issue on IRC and instead rushed of&lt;br /&gt;
to tell JAZZCAT how naughty we were? As&lt;br /&gt;
if I ever complained about the fact they&lt;br /&gt;
chose not to confront DEFF in person&lt;br /&gt;
when complaining about the releasecharts&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
in PROPAGANDA? As if I ever complained&lt;br /&gt;
that JAZZCAT forgot HITMEN in his re-&lt;br /&gt;
leasecharts and said &amp;quot;I will never edit&lt;br /&gt;
a magazine again when I'm stoned.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROPAGANDA will continue to write the&lt;br /&gt;
truth - scandal or now. We will continue&lt;br /&gt;
to offend, acclaim and report. We be-&lt;br /&gt;
lieve in our concept and trust our&lt;br /&gt;
readers will continue to appreciate&lt;br /&gt;
what we do - intelligent and free-&lt;br /&gt;
thinking journalism.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                    Yours sincerly,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                       Newscopy&lt;br /&gt;
                  Editor, Propaganda&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
+-+                 +------------------+&lt;br /&gt;
|O|PEN LETTER       |by Jayce of Hitmen|&lt;br /&gt;
|O|PEN LETTER       |  [The Minsitry]  |&lt;br /&gt;
+-+                 +------------------+&lt;br /&gt;
  +----------------------------------+&lt;br /&gt;
  |C                                 |&lt;br /&gt;
  |Concerning what was written in the|&lt;br /&gt;
  |  latest issue of Vandalism News  |&lt;br /&gt;
  +----------------------------------+&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
F&lt;br /&gt;
First of all, let me say that the turns&lt;br /&gt;
in this matter have been quite few. In&lt;br /&gt;
the beginning, the PROPAGANA-staff act-&lt;br /&gt;
ually were accused for protecting us by&lt;br /&gt;
writing what they call the truth. Let's&lt;br /&gt;
get to it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
JAZZCAT writes that I and MARCUS (THE&lt;br /&gt;
MINISTRY) got kicked out of ONSLAUGHT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
for not being able to crack the game&lt;br /&gt;
MEGA THRUSTABALL, an old game that&lt;br /&gt;
LEGEND had released earlier. The&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;original&amp;quot; that I received from JAZZ-&lt;br /&gt;
CAT was to begin with, already cracked.&lt;br /&gt;
Furthermore it was old - what any ser-&lt;br /&gt;
ious cracker would call a re-release.&lt;br /&gt;
ONSLAUGHT refered to it as a &amp;quot;new sales-&lt;br /&gt;
version&amp;quot;. What the difference was, I&lt;br /&gt;
do not know.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The fact is, that we didn't even attempt&lt;br /&gt;
cracking this game. As some of you might&lt;br /&gt;
know, we are both in the last year of&lt;br /&gt;
school, and those who actually finished&lt;br /&gt;
school know that the last year is a&lt;br /&gt;
tough one. There are many tests. We have&lt;br /&gt;
many times give up our social lives to&lt;br /&gt;
study, so why should the scene be more&lt;br /&gt;
important? JAZZCAT knew this, as I told&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
him myself on DOWN BY LAW.&lt;br /&gt;
He also says &amp;quot;we are an international&lt;br /&gt;
based group&amp;quot; meaning that I and MARCUS&lt;br /&gt;
shouldn't be used to this, but to a&lt;br /&gt;
Swedish based core. GENESIS*PROJECT&lt;br /&gt;
was actually the -first- group of this&lt;br /&gt;
kind we were in, and for what it seems,&lt;br /&gt;
also the last. We have been in many&lt;br /&gt;
groups over the years, and I speak for&lt;br /&gt;
both of us when I say that we never&lt;br /&gt;
experienced such a bad organization&lt;br /&gt;
- ever. Sometimes you could see a new&lt;br /&gt;
face on the boards claiming to be in&lt;br /&gt;
ONSLAUGHT, and when you asked who he&lt;br /&gt;
was, the answer was: &amp;quot;he joined up two&lt;br /&gt;
weeks ago - didn't you know?&amp;quot; Commun-&lt;br /&gt;
ication is the keyword, while in ON-&lt;br /&gt;
SLAUGHT there was no such thing.&lt;br /&gt;
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Before we got kicked, JAZZCAT claims&lt;br /&gt;
to give us a &amp;quot;second chance&amp;quot; by giving&lt;br /&gt;
us a firstrelease-original to put out.&lt;br /&gt;
But reaching us in person was, as he&lt;br /&gt;
says, very tough. This is another big&lt;br /&gt;
lie. We are both available by phone&lt;br /&gt;
every monday through friday between&lt;br /&gt;
22-O8 cet, and that is a fact. We might&lt;br /&gt;
not be awake, but we are there. All&lt;br /&gt;
other times I can be reached on my&lt;br /&gt;
cellular phone, so you see we were&lt;br /&gt;
- not- hard to reach, not at all.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Anyway, JAZZCAT e-mailed me on WARE'S&lt;br /&gt;
AQUARIUM asking how to give me the ori-&lt;br /&gt;
ginal. My answer was to put it on the&lt;br /&gt;
drives under a fake name and when I&lt;br /&gt;
would have leeched it, I'd let the sys-&lt;br /&gt;
op delete the file. JAZZCAT'S reaction&lt;br /&gt;
to this was as he says: &amp;quot;...how lame,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
and so they were kicked&amp;quot;. This I cannot&lt;br /&gt;
understand. If he had wanted us to put&lt;br /&gt;
that game out, he would have done as I&lt;br /&gt;
suggested as noone would have been able&lt;br /&gt;
to spot, see or download the original&lt;br /&gt;
on the drive anyway. This shows he's&lt;br /&gt;
full of shit. At last, he defends his&lt;br /&gt;
group by saying &amp;quot;we contain(ed) members&lt;br /&gt;
such as MAJESTY, CHRYSAGON, IGNORANCE,&lt;br /&gt;
DEEKAY and LA STYLE&amp;quot;. That's impressive,&lt;br /&gt;
but why have names on the memberlist&lt;br /&gt;
that weren't active in any way, but&lt;br /&gt;
just being names to brag? Or as in the&lt;br /&gt;
case of DEEKAY, as stated on the US&lt;br /&gt;
boards in mid 1995 : &amp;quot;he is not con-&lt;br /&gt;
sidered a member of our group, but will&lt;br /&gt;
do grapchis for us&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is what I had to say about this&lt;br /&gt;
matter, and I hope it made things a&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
bit cleare, as it's what - we - exp-&lt;br /&gt;
erienced, and not what JAZZCAT claims&lt;br /&gt;
to have happened.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                    Faithfully,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                   Jayce/Hitmen&lt;br /&gt;
               One half of the both&lt;br /&gt;
                  loved and hated&lt;br /&gt;
                 - The Ministry -&lt;br /&gt;
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               PROPAGANDA&lt;br /&gt;
               __________&lt;br /&gt;
       _________________________&lt;br /&gt;
    ORGANIZATION&lt;br /&gt;
    ____________&lt;br /&gt;
         EDITOR.......NEWSCOPY&lt;br /&gt;
         CO-EDITOR........DEFF&lt;br /&gt;
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       _________________________&lt;br /&gt;
    REPORTERS&lt;br /&gt;
    _________&lt;br /&gt;
       THE LIST.............DEFF&lt;br /&gt;
       NEWS &amp;amp;amp; ANALYSIS..NEWSCOPY&lt;br /&gt;
       PUBLIC AFFAIRS...TRANZIIE&lt;br /&gt;
       PUBLIC AFFAIRS.......DRAZ&lt;br /&gt;
       WANTED...........INTRUDER&lt;br /&gt;
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    PRODUCTION&lt;br /&gt;
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       CODE(C64)...........DEVIL&lt;br /&gt;
       CODE(SNES).........GEGGIN&lt;br /&gt;
       CODE(SNES)........SLAYGON&lt;br /&gt;
       CODE(SNES).......ALFATECH&lt;br /&gt;
       CODE(P.MUSIC)......ARISTO&lt;br /&gt;
       HOMEPAGE...........MOTLEY&lt;br /&gt;
       FONTS.................SES&lt;br /&gt;
       ICONS...............SCOPE&lt;br /&gt;
       PROPAGRAPH..........SCOPE&lt;br /&gt;
       LOGOS...............SCOPE&lt;br /&gt;
       MUSIC........MITCH &amp;amp;amp; DANE&lt;br /&gt;
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    DISTRIBUTION&lt;br /&gt;
    ____________&lt;br /&gt;
       MAIL.................SIXX&lt;br /&gt;
       MAIL...............NEOTEC&lt;br /&gt;
       MAIL.............INTRUDER&lt;br /&gt;
       MAIL.............TRANZIIE&lt;br /&gt;
       INTERNET...........MOTLEY&lt;br /&gt;
       INTERNET........CROSSFIRE&lt;br /&gt;
       INTERNET..........PLAYBOY&lt;br /&gt;
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           FOR SUBSCRIPTIONS,&lt;br /&gt;
          ARTICLES, COMPLAINTS&lt;br /&gt;
            AND BACKISSUES.&lt;br /&gt;
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