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		<title>Ymgve at 20:21, 18 June 2007</title>
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                  'o'&lt;br /&gt;
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Dear readers,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It is mindboggling when I think of it,&lt;br /&gt;
but fact is, we have reached a milestone&lt;br /&gt;
with this magazine. 2O issues, this one&lt;br /&gt;
being the goldedition. To honour the&lt;br /&gt;
occassion you will find some spellbind-&lt;br /&gt;
ing surprises in this chapter. Having&lt;br /&gt;
the creator of this magazine write a&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
pre-editorial comes naturally, and I&lt;br /&gt;
take of my hat in pride, for serving&lt;br /&gt;
as editor since his decline.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We will also celebrate the issue in&lt;br /&gt;
class, launching a paperedition of the&lt;br /&gt;
Propaganda at the party in Denmark.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Since we last met, we have gone through&lt;br /&gt;
some tremendous happenings. Issue 19&lt;br /&gt;
seemed to rock the boat slightly, with&lt;br /&gt;
ONSLAUGHT officially stomping on our&lt;br /&gt;
work in VANDALISM, DOMINATION as well&lt;br /&gt;
as on the boards. We have seen DUKE&lt;br /&gt;
bring back the original standards of&lt;br /&gt;
THE PULSE, the latest being somewhat&lt;br /&gt;
of a perfect issue. I must admit I was&lt;br /&gt;
reluctant to a successful rise of THE&lt;br /&gt;
PULSE sine DUKE declared he would re-&lt;br /&gt;
launch the magazine. However, after some&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
trembling issues, I am positive there is&lt;br /&gt;
no other magazine providing the same&lt;br /&gt;
qualified information and intelligence&lt;br /&gt;
on the field.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My dear assistant and co-editor DEFF&lt;br /&gt;
moved to Berlin just recently. Many&lt;br /&gt;
feared this to be the fall of both&lt;br /&gt;
AVANTGARDE and THE LIST for PROPAGANDA.&lt;br /&gt;
To be honest, I had my doubts as well,&lt;br /&gt;
knowing that his new job would take a&lt;br /&gt;
great deal of time. However, things&lt;br /&gt;
have worked out well since, and DEFF&lt;br /&gt;
will continue in the one and only chart&lt;br /&gt;
that people really bother about; the&lt;br /&gt;
one in PROPAGANDA. DEFF will be conn-&lt;br /&gt;
ected to the future shortly, with an&lt;br /&gt;
Internet-account being set up. This&lt;br /&gt;
will trigger the efforts further.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
TRANZIIE, journalist at PROPAGANDA,&lt;br /&gt;
also working under the HITMEN label&lt;br /&gt;
is involved in the production of the&lt;br /&gt;
paperedition of this magazine. However,&lt;br /&gt;
having turned into a total love-turd,&lt;br /&gt;
he spends time with a certain Rebecka&lt;br /&gt;
who seduced with cheap wine and sleazy&lt;br /&gt;
offers. Do I need to tell you that he&lt;br /&gt;
fell like the geek he really is?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So there. Now I will let the spirit of&lt;br /&gt;
the finest magazine take control. The&lt;br /&gt;
magazine everybody is asking about. The&lt;br /&gt;
only awaited and expected magazine on&lt;br /&gt;
the American boards. The magazine that&lt;br /&gt;
breaks the news and fears not doing so.&lt;br /&gt;
The releasecharts being the most care-&lt;br /&gt;
fully edited chapter, that people come&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
to judge the situation from. No other&lt;br /&gt;
magazine has the same appeal from the&lt;br /&gt;
public spotlight, boardwise. No other&lt;br /&gt;
magazine can be so proud of its staff.&lt;br /&gt;
For the 2Oth time, let the words speak.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                     Yours sincerly,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                        Newscopy&lt;br /&gt;
                    Propaganda Editor&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  +---------------------------------+&lt;br /&gt;
  |                                 |&lt;br /&gt;
  |   PROPAGANDA IS AN INDEPENDENT  |&lt;br /&gt;
  | MAGAZINE CREATED IN HARD EFFORT |&lt;br /&gt;
  |WITH A STAFF FROM VARIOUS GROUPS.|&lt;br /&gt;
  |                                 |&lt;br /&gt;
  +---------------------------------+&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 +-----------------+&lt;br /&gt;
 |PROPAGANDA SPEAKS|&lt;br /&gt;
_|PROPAGANDA SPEAKS|____________________&lt;br /&gt;
 +-----------------+&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We have come a long way in our digital&lt;br /&gt;
society. Long gone are the days of lack-&lt;br /&gt;
ing a structure. As the days have gone&lt;br /&gt;
by, we have developed a highly civilized&lt;br /&gt;
society.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Being a publisher of one of the most&lt;br /&gt;
most appreciated magazines, I do follow&lt;br /&gt;
the progress in scenepress with parti-&lt;br /&gt;
cular interest. THE ILLEGAL, the first&lt;br /&gt;
magazine on the 64, edited in Germany&lt;br /&gt;
by JEFF SMART was a splendid production&lt;br /&gt;
in many ways. I am very sorry that so&lt;br /&gt;
many of you were not around to take part&lt;br /&gt;
of it. Not only did it keep steady foc-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
us on news and charts, but triggered a&lt;br /&gt;
debate. In the late 8O's, the scene&lt;br /&gt;
developed a cheaper and more easily&lt;br /&gt;
distributed method; the diskmagazine.&lt;br /&gt;
SEX N'CRIME was the first effort in the&lt;br /&gt;
race, which later branched into the&lt;br /&gt;
magazine you're reading right now.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At an early stage, it seemed difficult&lt;br /&gt;
writing for the new medium. The news&lt;br /&gt;
were one-lined, uninspiring and gave&lt;br /&gt;
little room for the reader to speculate&lt;br /&gt;
behind the curtains of a group. The&lt;br /&gt;
interviews were unintelligent, and not&lt;br /&gt;
personalizing the alias in any interest-&lt;br /&gt;
ing way. WHAT WOULD YOU BRING TO A DES-&lt;br /&gt;
ERTED ISLAND? WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE FOOD?&lt;br /&gt;
were among thousands of jolly questions.&lt;br /&gt;
Very interesting if you met the fellows&lt;br /&gt;
later saying &amp;quot;HI MAN, I READ THAT YOU&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
LIKE ROASTBEEF, WOW, THAT'S COOL!&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Looking back, I'm grateful we are at&lt;br /&gt;
the verge of 1996. At least considering&lt;br /&gt;
the magazines. Many magazines have come&lt;br /&gt;
a long way, even though it startles me&lt;br /&gt;
how many magazines are in poor control&lt;br /&gt;
of the editorial work, and resemble the&lt;br /&gt;
first attempts we saw in 1988.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It is also mindboggling to see how some&lt;br /&gt;
magazines take the oppurtunity to bene-&lt;br /&gt;
fit their own group, at a very cheap&lt;br /&gt;
and unprofessional level. Some still&lt;br /&gt;
cannot keep their hands away from using&lt;br /&gt;
the medium as a channel for sleazy&lt;br /&gt;
propaganda, and as a chance to get back&lt;br /&gt;
at unwanted rivals.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
VANDALISM SILVER was received in my&lt;br /&gt;
apartment with great expectations. I&lt;br /&gt;
still consider VANDALISM being one of&lt;br /&gt;
the most recent hotshots, and through&lt;br /&gt;
its line of increasing popularity, I've&lt;br /&gt;
grown very fond of it. Still, issue 25&lt;br /&gt;
contained some of the worst pieces of&lt;br /&gt;
journalism I've ever seen in a long&lt;br /&gt;
time of scenepress. VENGEANCE, a tale-&lt;br /&gt;
nted editor, has spent almost an entire&lt;br /&gt;
chapter (ANYTHING GOES) on me, my mag-&lt;br /&gt;
azine and my abilities in writing. It&lt;br /&gt;
is obvious that the few lines I spent&lt;br /&gt;
covering the the current hazzles in-&lt;br /&gt;
side ONSLAUGHT, later to be named as&lt;br /&gt;
the ONSOAP (not my idea). I was expect-&lt;br /&gt;
ing him to comment and react on the&lt;br /&gt;
situation. Still, I stand by my words,&lt;br /&gt;
as facts are facts, and they are up&lt;br /&gt;
to now undesputed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
However, VENGEANCE had taken my honest&lt;br /&gt;
but harsch words very seriously. I may&lt;br /&gt;
go as far saying he took them person-&lt;br /&gt;
ally. The concept in his chapter is hard&lt;br /&gt;
to follow and he clearly loses track&lt;br /&gt;
numerous times during the text. Instead&lt;br /&gt;
of working up a thick line, of credible&lt;br /&gt;
arguments, he continously brings perso-&lt;br /&gt;
nal and unprofessional aspects on the&lt;br /&gt;
issue. Journalism indeed. To keep up&lt;br /&gt;
a pace, JAZZCAT has been invited to the&lt;br /&gt;
party in a chapter called DOMINATION.&lt;br /&gt;
Editinng the independant magazine DOM-&lt;br /&gt;
INATION, it was pretty difficult to&lt;br /&gt;
criticize my work on behalf of ON-&lt;br /&gt;
SLAUGHT, and instead does the job in&lt;br /&gt;
the ONSLAUGHT-based magazine. 2 chapters&lt;br /&gt;
with me in the spotlight. 2 chapters on&lt;br /&gt;
a personal scale, where I am the target.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Turning of my computer, I do so, very&lt;br /&gt;
insulted. Not that I regretted the words&lt;br /&gt;
in PROPAGANDA 19, I stand by it. I just&lt;br /&gt;
felt vulnerable, kicked to the ground&lt;br /&gt;
and shamelessly stomped on. For Pete's&lt;br /&gt;
sake, they couldn't even avoid writing&lt;br /&gt;
about as when reporting on the fact&lt;br /&gt;
that THE MINISTRY had joined HITMEN!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If my words about ONSLAUGHT as a soap-&lt;br /&gt;
opera offended, why did they not call&lt;br /&gt;
me up and clear the situation up? It&lt;br /&gt;
would have been a very easy task -&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Per, You have printed news we do not&lt;br /&gt;
feel very satisfied with. LA STYLE did&lt;br /&gt;
not call 3 groups asking to join and&lt;br /&gt;
complaining about the [O]-organization.&lt;br /&gt;
THE MINISTRY did not officially criti-&lt;br /&gt;
cize the organization for doing a bad&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
job and saying the group was lazy. We&lt;br /&gt;
did not run into misunderstandings with&lt;br /&gt;
the Swedish board HIGHWAY, and DODGER&lt;br /&gt;
was very happy in the group, even though&lt;br /&gt;
he  left for HITMEN.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
However, if they did, they would still&lt;br /&gt;
be lying to me. Fact is, it did happen.&lt;br /&gt;
 +-----------------------------------+&lt;br /&gt;
 |* LA STYLE did call the 3 groups.  |&lt;br /&gt;
 |                                   |&lt;br /&gt;
 |* THE MINISTRY did criticize their |&lt;br /&gt;
 |  own organization in public.      |&lt;br /&gt;
 |                                   |&lt;br /&gt;
 |* HIGHWAY was taken on in great    |&lt;br /&gt;
 |  confusion.                       |&lt;br /&gt;
 |                                   |&lt;br /&gt;
 |* DODGER did leave for HITMEN in   |&lt;br /&gt;
 |  unhappiness.                     |&lt;br /&gt;
 +-----------------------------------+&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That my friends, is why I wrote it was&lt;br /&gt;
a soapopera. So be it I could have&lt;br /&gt;
chosen another word, but the result&lt;br /&gt;
would still be the same.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
JAZZCAT has speculated in why I've&lt;br /&gt;
chosen to harass ONSLAUGHT. Is it be-&lt;br /&gt;
cause I am at friendly terms with THE&lt;br /&gt;
MINISTRY? No. We shared a great time&lt;br /&gt;
in the same group once, but that's as&lt;br /&gt;
far as we can take it. Is it because&lt;br /&gt;
DEFF has an increasing influence on the&lt;br /&gt;
magazine? No. I still produce the news&lt;br /&gt;
on my own, in my very own style. Fact&lt;br /&gt;
is, I have since my start, taking over&lt;br /&gt;
from ANTICHRIST/G*P had a clear ambition&lt;br /&gt;
and focus - to write intelligent, ana-&lt;br /&gt;
lyzing and long news. News that gives&lt;br /&gt;
the readers something back and serves&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
a purpose. In my eyes, it has been a&lt;br /&gt;
very successful concept, with plenty&lt;br /&gt;
of magazines following the trend.&lt;br /&gt;
(PULSE, DOMINATION, RELAX, VANDALISM)&lt;br /&gt;
Say whatever you want, since you cannot&lt;br /&gt;
argue with it. I've also made clear that&lt;br /&gt;
I base my writing around rumours and&lt;br /&gt;
news.  With that in mind, I have room&lt;br /&gt;
for both reporting and speculating. To&lt;br /&gt;
me it was very clear ONSLAUGHT made&lt;br /&gt;
their fuzzes a public primetime soap.&lt;br /&gt;
It may very well be happening in other&lt;br /&gt;
groups (and we know it does!), while&lt;br /&gt;
it does not appear in public.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROPAGANDA is not a small or a new&lt;br /&gt;
publication. We know that we reach&lt;br /&gt;
massive amounts of people. We also know&lt;br /&gt;
that part of the staff has been around&lt;br /&gt;
for ages, being of the older generation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It was 1O years ago I joined my first&lt;br /&gt;
group on the C64, 8 years ago I found&lt;br /&gt;
myself in THE SILENTS. 7 years ago I was&lt;br /&gt;
in EXACT giving supplying SNACKY. Later&lt;br /&gt;
on in history, we'd meet again in G*P.&lt;br /&gt;
Therefore I have come to realize I can&lt;br /&gt;
be slightly conservative in my opinions&lt;br /&gt;
- oldfashioned as you might put it.&lt;br /&gt;
You easily develop a skepsis towards new&lt;br /&gt;
rules, new groups and new people. ON-&lt;br /&gt;
SLAUGHT was never the case of this&lt;br /&gt;
naive charachteristic of mine. I know&lt;br /&gt;
they are a very competitive group. In&lt;br /&gt;
9 months they have have been offensive&lt;br /&gt;
and skillful in the race of releases.&lt;br /&gt;
They also have 2 magazines I consider&lt;br /&gt;
to be of top-quality, not to mention&lt;br /&gt;
their demosection with names like&lt;br /&gt;
MORBID - one of my absolute favorite-&lt;br /&gt;
musicians on our format. So when quoting&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
VENGEANCE as &amp;quot;FOR A GROUP THAT HAS BEEN&lt;br /&gt;
AROUND 9 MONTHS AND STILL IS RATHER&lt;br /&gt;
YOUNG, WE ARE DOING QUITE WELL&amp;quot;, I'd&lt;br /&gt;
like to alter the statement slightly.&lt;br /&gt;
I'd say ONSLAUGHT has done very well&lt;br /&gt;
However, appearing in spotlight, they&lt;br /&gt;
must expect being looked on and ana-&lt;br /&gt;
lyzed extra carefully by people. Some-&lt;br /&gt;
times groups need to be shaken slightly.&lt;br /&gt;
Sometimes by the foundations.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Handlig a success, is not always easy.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Yours Sincerly,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Newscopy&lt;br /&gt;
Editor/Propaganda&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
               PROPAGANDA&lt;br /&gt;
               __________&lt;br /&gt;
       _________________________&lt;br /&gt;
    ORGANIZATION&lt;br /&gt;
    ____________&lt;br /&gt;
         EDITOR.......NEWSCOPY&lt;br /&gt;
         CO-EDITOR........DEFF&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
       _________________________&lt;br /&gt;
    REPORTERS&lt;br /&gt;
    _________&lt;br /&gt;
       THE LIST.............DEFF&lt;br /&gt;
       NEWS &amp;amp;amp; ANALYSIS..NEWSCOPY&lt;br /&gt;
       PUBLIC AFFAIRS...TRANZIIE&lt;br /&gt;
       PUBLIC AFFAIRS.......DRAZ&lt;br /&gt;
       WANTED.............WALKER&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
       _________________________&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
       _________________________&lt;br /&gt;
    PRODUCTION&lt;br /&gt;
    __________&lt;br /&gt;
       CODE................DEVIL&lt;br /&gt;
       FONTS.................SES&lt;br /&gt;
       ICONS................DRAZ&lt;br /&gt;
       PROPAGRAPH..........SCOPE&lt;br /&gt;
       LOGOS...............SCOPE&lt;br /&gt;
       MUSIC.............SYNDROM&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
       _________________________&lt;br /&gt;
    DISTRIBUTION&lt;br /&gt;
    ____________&lt;br /&gt;
       MAIL...............WALKER&lt;br /&gt;
       MAIL...............NEOTEC&lt;br /&gt;
       MAIL.............INTRUDER&lt;br /&gt;
       INTERNET...........MOTLEY&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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         ______________________&lt;br /&gt;
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