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		<title>Ymgve at 20:02, 18 June 2007</title>
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      A                             d=b&lt;br /&gt;
_____ AVANTGARDE ___________________'o'_&lt;br /&gt;
                                    /_\&lt;br /&gt;
 _____________________&lt;br /&gt;
  Most Valuable Group&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 _____________________&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
        FOR MAINTAINING QUALITY&lt;br /&gt;
            AND PRINCIPLES.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
T&lt;br /&gt;
There was a moment of silence at the&lt;br /&gt;
scene, utter silence where the public&lt;br /&gt;
wondered whether there really was a&lt;br /&gt;
future for Avantgarde. It may sound&lt;br /&gt;
ridiculous, at one point, but having&lt;br /&gt;
stated their position clearly earlier&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
last year, it was unusual see them&lt;br /&gt;
leaning back a bit in the background&lt;br /&gt;
for some short time. The involvment&lt;br /&gt;
in the successful Tributeparty took&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
its share of hard work, and awaiting&lt;br /&gt;
possibilities to fix their games since&lt;br /&gt;
the departure of PUDWERX, they saw&lt;br /&gt;
no reason to release games for European&lt;br /&gt;
standards only. Just that single, firm&lt;br /&gt;
principle is worth a bow itself. And&lt;br /&gt;
with Avantgarde fixing again, they have&lt;br /&gt;
contributed the scene with their&lt;br /&gt;
delicious balance of quality and sub-&lt;br /&gt;
tility, stating they do indeed belong&lt;br /&gt;
at the most intense platform. Still.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
________________________________________&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
   T             S                  ..&lt;br /&gt;
___THE LAUNCH OF SHOUT ____________ &amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;lt;__&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 _______________________&lt;br /&gt;
  Most Invaluable Event&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 _______________________&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    THE MOST HYPED RELEASE THIS YEAR&lt;br /&gt;
        DELIVERED WITH A FIASCO.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
F&lt;br /&gt;
Few magazines have attracted such high&lt;br /&gt;
interest before its launch. When it was&lt;br /&gt;
clear REFORMATION from FAIRLIGHT was to&lt;br /&gt;
merge with INGENIOUS BRAIN, people fol-&lt;br /&gt;
lowed the event with curious eyes. This&lt;br /&gt;
could very well have been the new brand&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
covering all markets, not only focusing&lt;br /&gt;
on either mail or boards.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Swedish boards were interesting spots&lt;br /&gt;
during these hectic months of impatient&lt;br /&gt;
discussions. The talk of the town, one&lt;br /&gt;
might say. And the hype faced no limits.&lt;br /&gt;
During this time, the staff, who I must&lt;br /&gt;
still point out is very competent,&lt;br /&gt;
announced 12 different releasedates.&lt;br /&gt;
None of them accurate to reality, of&lt;br /&gt;
course. But still, we were to regard&lt;br /&gt;
this as the new breed for FAIRLIGHT,&lt;br /&gt;
who have had some problems to establish&lt;br /&gt;
a fine rhythm in their work lately.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The much talked about release still&lt;br /&gt;
didn't appear. Not until the very day,&lt;br /&gt;
some swappers in Germany got hands on&lt;br /&gt;
the issue in advance spreading it with&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
the wind to everybody. Still, FAIRLIGHT&lt;br /&gt;
didn't have it. It was even spotted on&lt;br /&gt;
the SCS*TRC Ftp-site, and somewhere out&lt;br /&gt;
in Europe, there was one edition of the&lt;br /&gt;
magazine being spread with a TRSI-intro&lt;br /&gt;
in front of it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
FAIRLIGHT still didn't have it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ENDURO, main editor had it, but it is&lt;br /&gt;
still a mystery to us, why he never&lt;br /&gt;
bothered to upload it to the Swedish&lt;br /&gt;
board running under the FAIRLIGHT flag.&lt;br /&gt;
Still, this was something that he'd&lt;br /&gt;
been indoctrinating us with the past&lt;br /&gt;
3 months.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Eventually the people in FAIRLIGHT found&lt;br /&gt;
it slightly hard hiding their emotions&lt;br /&gt;
in public, and instead of keeping the&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
discussion at a rather discrete level,&lt;br /&gt;
it came out in the open.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At one point, ENDURO was even spotted&lt;br /&gt;
calling saying 'Ok, ok, social life&lt;br /&gt;
blew it this time..', to cover the&lt;br /&gt;
fiasco that was now nothing but a fact.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But the storm was not over quite yet.&lt;br /&gt;
Through reliable sources, it had come&lt;br /&gt;
to our knowledge, that the new hype and&lt;br /&gt;
pride from FAIRLIGHT; SHOUT was going&lt;br /&gt;
to become an independent magazine. A&lt;br /&gt;
deal closed by ENDURO and the edit-&lt;br /&gt;
ors in Germany. The case was taken out&lt;br /&gt;
in public by PROPAGANDSTAFF, and we&lt;br /&gt;
could hear the jaws dropping to the&lt;br /&gt;
floor at various FAIRLIGHThomes, not&lt;br /&gt;
slightest idea about the future of THEIR&lt;br /&gt;
magazine. Confusion was at hand, and&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
we can only hope the turbulence will&lt;br /&gt;
settle.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You'd offer a lot to see the buffers&lt;br /&gt;
from the discussions about SHOUT in&lt;br /&gt;
the FAIRLIGHT private area at WARE'S&lt;br /&gt;
AQUARIUM. But on the other hand, it&lt;br /&gt;
wouldn't be appropriate journalism from&lt;br /&gt;
us at PROPAGANDA showing them to you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
         M                          d=b&lt;br /&gt;
________ MOTIV 8 ___________________'o'_&lt;br /&gt;
                                    /_\&lt;br /&gt;
 _________________________&lt;br /&gt;
  Most Admirable Effort I&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 _________________________&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
      FOR TAKING PUBLIC RELATIONS&lt;br /&gt;
         TO THE HIGHER GROUND.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&lt;br /&gt;
I have to admit it. I have been sceptic&lt;br /&gt;
and reluctant about the progress with&lt;br /&gt;
Internet. But, I did get that account,&lt;br /&gt;
and despite the hype, I found myself&lt;br /&gt;
quite pleased with what it could offer&lt;br /&gt;
me. It has taken quite some time, but&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
today, we, the people from the 64 are&lt;br /&gt;
in masses on the net, and the scene&lt;br /&gt;
DOES in fact face some new territories&lt;br /&gt;
to explore. We have FTP-sites, a channel&lt;br /&gt;
at IRC and a wide net of users, each&lt;br /&gt;
one with the same interest.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
MOTIV8, a group that has had a hard&lt;br /&gt;
time to establish a reliable concept&lt;br /&gt;
through their time, have somewhat&lt;br /&gt;
pioneered lately. Taking advantage of&lt;br /&gt;
the new possibilities through the net,&lt;br /&gt;
they have developed a customerfriendly&lt;br /&gt;
marketing stunt, that is nothing but&lt;br /&gt;
a high class service.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Through a big userlist, the group&lt;br /&gt;
communicates with all the people at&lt;br /&gt;
the scene who attend the net. In reality&lt;br /&gt;
this means, that everybody gets every&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
release MOTIV8 does, automatically,&lt;br /&gt;
take it or not. What could be more&lt;br /&gt;
comfortable, just logging on finding&lt;br /&gt;
a new file, without having to dabble&lt;br /&gt;
with anything?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The very same userlist functions as&lt;br /&gt;
a channel where the group distributes&lt;br /&gt;
pressreleases; news and happenings in&lt;br /&gt;
MOTIV 8, members, boards and more. Not&lt;br /&gt;
that it will interest everybody, but&lt;br /&gt;
it is public relations/marketing as&lt;br /&gt;
good as you can do it on the 64. It is&lt;br /&gt;
my firm belief, that Internet can thrive&lt;br /&gt;
the scene further, and with more people&lt;br /&gt;
following MOTIV8's example, we'd take&lt;br /&gt;
one big step further.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
________________________________________&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  T    S                            d=b&lt;br /&gt;
_ TRC, SUCCESS and FOCUS ___________'o'_&lt;br /&gt;
                                    /_\&lt;br /&gt;
  __________________________&lt;br /&gt;
   Most Admirable Effort II&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  __________________________&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
         FOR THE AN EVENT THAT&lt;br /&gt;
      KNOCKED SOCKS OFF THE GIANT&lt;br /&gt;
         ARRANGMENTS IN EUROPE.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
T&lt;br /&gt;
The Dutch merge dared to oppose the&lt;br /&gt;
hectic market of arranging meetings and&lt;br /&gt;
parties. Not that they ever attempted&lt;br /&gt;
on getting close sizewise to the&lt;br /&gt;
counterparts in Denmark. X'95 stood&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
in no way close to such an arrangement.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Focusing on a cozy atmosphere, with&lt;br /&gt;
support from the right people and groups&lt;br /&gt;
(some execptions made) you come up with&lt;br /&gt;
quite a winner of a get-together. Again,&lt;br /&gt;
the people from the 64 could thrive from&lt;br /&gt;
the mere fact that we attend for joy and&lt;br /&gt;
laughs, unlike our compagnions on var-&lt;br /&gt;
ious formats.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
SUCCESS, TRC and FOCUS can quite proudly&lt;br /&gt;
take on a hat and rise for the occassion&lt;br /&gt;
because this vitaminpill came to the&lt;br /&gt;
rescue during a fairly dull spring, and&lt;br /&gt;
with that in mind, we can only hope for&lt;br /&gt;
it becoming an annual tradition.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
________________________________________&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
   A                                d=b&lt;br /&gt;
__ AWARDS TO LOOK OUT FOR __________'o'_&lt;br /&gt;
                                    /_\&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 _____________&lt;br /&gt;
  ASSEMBLY'95&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 _____________&lt;br /&gt;
 May very well be one of the most&lt;br /&gt;
 interesting events this year with&lt;br /&gt;
 high hopes for BYTERAPERS, BEYOND&lt;br /&gt;
 FORCE and other groups to release&lt;br /&gt;
 their awaited productions.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 _____________&lt;br /&gt;
    ECTS'95&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 _____________&lt;br /&gt;
 The London shows have always attracted&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 diehard 64-sceners from Europe, and&lt;br /&gt;
 with last year in mind, we're bound&lt;br /&gt;
 for another success.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 ______________&lt;br /&gt;
    BOD'S CD&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 ______________&lt;br /&gt;
 Long lost veteran from TALENT has com-&lt;br /&gt;
 piled a CD boasting massive amounts&lt;br /&gt;
 of Software, Demos and Utilities for&lt;br /&gt;
 the Commodore 64. We will cover more&lt;br /&gt;
 about this release next issue.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 ______________&lt;br /&gt;
   TRIBUTE II&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 ______________&lt;br /&gt;
 It has been rumoured for some time now,&lt;br /&gt;
 and may very well see light of day.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 With more time ahead to gather people,&lt;br /&gt;
 and a smaller partyplace, it may very&lt;br /&gt;
 well become the 64-event of the year.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 ______________&lt;br /&gt;
   THE PULSE&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 ______________&lt;br /&gt;
 Will it come back or not? Unfortunately&lt;br /&gt;
 much speaks of it not doing so, having&lt;br /&gt;
 problems gathering staff. However, the&lt;br /&gt;
 interesting project may very well come&lt;br /&gt;
 out with pompous fanfares.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
________________________________________&lt;br /&gt;
                        PROPAGANDASTAFF&lt;br /&gt;
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