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		<title>Ymgve at 19:30, 18 June 2007</title>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;                INTERNET&lt;br /&gt;
               -INTERNET-&lt;br /&gt;
________________________________________&lt;br /&gt;
   -Hackers Dream, Sceners Paradice-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
INTERNET, todays Cyberspace...&lt;br /&gt;
Consisting of about 3-5 million&lt;br /&gt;
computers, Networked around the Globe&lt;br /&gt;
with about 4O million users.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Schools, Businesses, Military,&lt;br /&gt;
Research Labs and Commercial Public&lt;br /&gt;
Access Computers providing Services&lt;br /&gt;
for Millions of people 24 hours a day.&lt;br /&gt;
Services like INTERNET MAIL, DIRECT&lt;br /&gt;
LINKS, FILES, IRC, INFORMATION.&lt;br /&gt;
All this at your finger tips...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
... and what good can this all do for&lt;br /&gt;
a normal C-64 SCENER?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Well, it gives you a direct access with&lt;br /&gt;
ALL the Computers around the World&lt;br /&gt;
Connected to INTERNET. You can send&lt;br /&gt;
eachother mail for a price for nothing.&lt;br /&gt;
You can also send FILES/WAREZ in your&lt;br /&gt;
mail to whom ever you'd like to.&lt;br /&gt;
Basicly you can send your groups latest&lt;br /&gt;
warez to all C-64 dudes/dudettes in&lt;br /&gt;
the Net. In Other words, Extremely&lt;br /&gt;
FAST Spreading around the Globe in&lt;br /&gt;
a matter of minutes. You can forget&lt;br /&gt;
fighting for your cards to get warez&lt;br /&gt;
when you can get the latest warez to&lt;br /&gt;
your own INTERNET MAILBOX DIRECTLY.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
INTERNET computers are usually run on&lt;br /&gt;
a UNIX machine. Easy to use, with&lt;br /&gt;
PC-DOS type of commands. Usually they&lt;br /&gt;
include all the Help files for the&lt;br /&gt;
Absolute Beginners.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In INTERNET you will have something&lt;br /&gt;
called FTP that stnads for FILE TRANSFER&lt;br /&gt;
PROTOCOL. A protocol that is used from&lt;br /&gt;
your &amp;quot;SITE&amp;quot;, from the computer system&lt;br /&gt;
where you are calling from.&lt;br /&gt;
It gives you the possibility to &amp;quot;GET&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
files from OTHER Computers in the&lt;br /&gt;
NETWORK. Some Computers in the NET&lt;br /&gt;
have special Areas for C-64 warez.&lt;br /&gt;
But usually only for Legal Software,&lt;br /&gt;
but that doesn't stop us for not making&lt;br /&gt;
a site for having all our latest warez&lt;br /&gt;
available for the SCENERS.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That kinds of FTP SITES are usually&lt;br /&gt;
more or less kept secret from the&lt;br /&gt;
normal users.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We have also something called IRC that&lt;br /&gt;
stands for INTERNET RELAY CHAT. In other&lt;br /&gt;
words, a HUGE CHAT SYSTEM that is daily&lt;br /&gt;
used by Thousands of People around the&lt;br /&gt;
GLOBE.&lt;br /&gt;
IRC doesn't have a &amp;quot;physical&amp;quot; place in&lt;br /&gt;
the NET, it just exists. Most of the&lt;br /&gt;
Computers are Connected to it with a&lt;br /&gt;
IRC SERVER. It allows people to access&lt;br /&gt;
it from their computer and join all&lt;br /&gt;
the different channels in it. &amp;quot;TALK&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
LIVE with people around the world.&lt;br /&gt;
Everyday there are about 1OOO channels&lt;br /&gt;
to choose from or you can just make&lt;br /&gt;
your own Channel. Channels, ROOMs where&lt;br /&gt;
people can talk with a huge croud.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are all kinds of CHANNELS on IRC,&lt;br /&gt;
like #PHREAK, #C-64, #HOTSEX, #SWEDEN,&lt;br /&gt;
#SOFA... Just everything for everyone&lt;br /&gt;
to choose from. The #C-64 CHANNEL is&lt;br /&gt;
usally crouded with all kinds of C-64&lt;br /&gt;
users... Sceners, Non-Sceners,&lt;br /&gt;
C-64 Emulator(PC) people and old&lt;br /&gt;
Sceners.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Just a Fun Place to Be in.&lt;br /&gt;
In time You will automaticly get&lt;br /&gt;
ADDICTED of IRC. You find yourself&lt;br /&gt;
spending more and more time &amp;quot;meeting&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
and &amp;quot;talking&amp;quot; with the people of IRC.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I could say that, EVERYTHING YOU NEED,&lt;br /&gt;
YOU CAN GET IT FROM INTERNET SOMEHOW.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
HOW DO YOU GET ACCESS TO THIS FABULOUS&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;HIGHWAY&amp;quot; OF CYBERSPACE.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Well... If you study on a College or&lt;br /&gt;
a University, They are Very Certaintly&lt;br /&gt;
Connected to INTERNET.&lt;br /&gt;
If you work for a Big Company you could&lt;br /&gt;
ask the System Administrator for INFO&lt;br /&gt;
about that. Call your Local Phone&lt;br /&gt;
Company and ask if they Know or can&lt;br /&gt;
Provice you with INTERNET ACCESS.&lt;br /&gt;
Atleast for Americans this is very easy&lt;br /&gt;
B'coz all the States in U.S have Public&lt;br /&gt;
Commercial Sites that &amp;quot;SELL&amp;quot; INTERNET&lt;br /&gt;
access for some amount of money.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Then again it's harder for Europeen&lt;br /&gt;
People to find Commercial Sites in&lt;br /&gt;
their country. Try calling the phone&lt;br /&gt;
company several times and talk&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
with several people and you should&lt;br /&gt;
be abel to find a person who can help&lt;br /&gt;
you with this.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
...OR there is always ANOTHER WAY,&lt;br /&gt;
a faster way for all Hackers/Phreakers&lt;br /&gt;
on the Scene... To use Someones&lt;br /&gt;
Credit Card to Card a account in U.S.A.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
These accounts usually arent't long&lt;br /&gt;
lived ones but gives you a certain time&lt;br /&gt;
to enjoy the pleasures of the NET.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At this moment there are a Huge Buch of&lt;br /&gt;
old/new/todays C-64 SCENERS connected&lt;br /&gt;
to INTERNET.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I could mention groups like G*P, SCS+TRC&lt;br /&gt;
, OLD-ILLUSION, MSI, FBR, FLT, PADUA,&lt;br /&gt;
TALENT, LEGEND, CONTEX, FOCUS, STYLE,&lt;br /&gt;
F4CG etc etc... the list is long.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To get more information you can write&lt;br /&gt;
to the PROPAGANDA STAFF(adress in the&lt;br /&gt;
1st chapter) , write directly to me&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
MOTLEY /GENESIS PROJECT&lt;br /&gt;
MOTLEY/ GENESIS*PROJECT&lt;br /&gt;
XXXXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
XXXXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
XXXXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
XXXXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
or call the PROPAGNDA/G*P/DMX WHQ&lt;br /&gt;
        THE DUNGEON&lt;br /&gt;
       _THE DUNGEON_ XXXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
       __________________________&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
and leave mail to me (motley) or&lt;br /&gt;
if you already are connected to INTERNET&lt;br /&gt;
send mail to :&lt;br /&gt;
               MOTLEY(AT)WORLD.STD.COM&lt;br /&gt;
               _______________________&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 GET YAR ASS WIRED&lt;br /&gt;
 GET YAR ASS WIRED.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
             GOOD LUCK&lt;br /&gt;
             GOOD LUCK.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                                 /MOTLEY&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
GETTING THE WARES FIXED&lt;br /&gt;
GETTING THE WARES FIXED BY NEWSCOPY/GP&lt;br /&gt;
________________________________________&lt;br /&gt;
When the American market opened up to&lt;br /&gt;
Europe some years back, we were all&lt;br /&gt;
welcoming it by heart and did so,&lt;br /&gt;
seduced by the speed of the wares,&lt;br /&gt;
and the feeling of taking part of the&lt;br /&gt;
action instantly. Competition in terms&lt;br /&gt;
of speed grew to incredible measures&lt;br /&gt;
and at the early days of cracking this&lt;br /&gt;
often led to the fact that quality was&lt;br /&gt;
mostly missed out.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Today's scene looks a bit different.&lt;br /&gt;
Not only is it a well established&lt;br /&gt;
standard to get the wares fixed in&lt;br /&gt;
order to obtain the first release, but&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
it is also a sign of caring about the&lt;br /&gt;
people overseas. It might very well be&lt;br /&gt;
that the market has decreased over&lt;br /&gt;
there, of people actually playing the&lt;br /&gt;
games, but fact is, I still get a lot&lt;br /&gt;
of letters from people sending me lists&lt;br /&gt;
and onwards who want to purchase games&lt;br /&gt;
from me, and they praise the NTSC/PAL-&lt;br /&gt;
rules that have come along with the&lt;br /&gt;
firstreleasing rules.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Therefore it is evident to fix a ware,&lt;br /&gt;
not only to show the people at the&lt;br /&gt;
boards who got hold of the game first,&lt;br /&gt;
but to offer supreme quality measures&lt;br /&gt;
to people at all sides of the globe.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A tragic turbulunce that has come to&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
affect the market lately, however, is&lt;br /&gt;
putting the game out PAL only, even&lt;br /&gt;
though the game actually can be fixed.&lt;br /&gt;
This is incredibly egocentric, con-&lt;br /&gt;
sidering that the only thing that&lt;br /&gt;
proves valuable then, is for the group&lt;br /&gt;
to get their name out on the field.&lt;br /&gt;
1993 was a terrible year in terms of&lt;br /&gt;
fixing. Groups were popping out a lot&lt;br /&gt;
of wares, and many of them never got&lt;br /&gt;
fixed, as the groups were to lazy to&lt;br /&gt;
get a fixer do the job, and kept&lt;br /&gt;
blaming it on &amp;quot;a decreasing American&lt;br /&gt;
market&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1994 started of well however. A lot&lt;br /&gt;
of groups have understood the value&lt;br /&gt;
of a game getting fixed, and some&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
reluctant ones have simply had to adapt&lt;br /&gt;
themselves to the old rules coming&lt;br /&gt;
back. In a way, one might say we are&lt;br /&gt;
turning back time again, but what we&lt;br /&gt;
in fact are doing is offering a better&lt;br /&gt;
more qualified release that serves the&lt;br /&gt;
purpose for everybody.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
People fixing in the USA have actually&lt;br /&gt;
been on decline since the black year&lt;br /&gt;
of 1993, but it seems a rise might&lt;br /&gt;
very well occur. Groups are getting&lt;br /&gt;
back to fix games for group, and from&lt;br /&gt;
there competition will be back in full&lt;br /&gt;
effect, because after all, beneath the&lt;br /&gt;
fact of getting it fixed lies the&lt;br /&gt;
competion.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
________________________________________&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Many people fear today's market, where&lt;br /&gt;
Europeans are starting to fix games&lt;br /&gt;
themselves. Maybe it is just a trend,&lt;br /&gt;
that will last until the Americans&lt;br /&gt;
come back in full effect, but one shall&lt;br /&gt;
not fear it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In fact, it is really the most pleasant&lt;br /&gt;
way of solving the fixerproblems.&lt;br /&gt;
There is nothing standing in the way&lt;br /&gt;
from the fact that Europeans might&lt;br /&gt;
become as good at fixing as today's&lt;br /&gt;
best Americans.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One problem can occur, however. Some&lt;br /&gt;
1O groups can crack the same game and&lt;br /&gt;
get it fixed by their European fixer,&lt;br /&gt;
and claim THEY were the first. Then,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
only then, the upload logs on the boards&lt;br /&gt;
can tell who actually got the game out&lt;br /&gt;
first. The log never lies, but this&lt;br /&gt;
event of the scene really triggers&lt;br /&gt;
competion, especially as a ware is&lt;br /&gt;
really valuable for a group these days.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
THE LACK OF CODES IN THE US&lt;br /&gt;
THE LACK OF CODES IN THE US.&lt;br /&gt;
________________________________________&lt;br /&gt;
Back in the good old days, the&lt;br /&gt;
Americans had all the codes, while&lt;br /&gt;
the Europeans had all the wares.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Today we face an entirely different&lt;br /&gt;
market. The Europeans have all the&lt;br /&gt;
wares, and have also grabbed hold of&lt;br /&gt;
all the codes. Many American fixer&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
groups stand codeless, and in a way&lt;br /&gt;
they only have themselves to blame.&lt;br /&gt;
What I hope to see is a rise of&lt;br /&gt;
American people calling out. I hope&lt;br /&gt;
to see them, begging for wares,&lt;br /&gt;
triggering competition between the&lt;br /&gt;
Europeans, and most important of all,&lt;br /&gt;
triggering the competition between&lt;br /&gt;
the American groups. I pray for it,&lt;br /&gt;
and in some way I know it will happen.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
More and more Americans are finding&lt;br /&gt;
their way back. More people are&lt;br /&gt;
eager to fix. Well, we are eager&lt;br /&gt;
to give.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
       Reflections a fuzzy night.&lt;br /&gt;
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