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		<title>Ymgve at 17:34, 18 June 2007</title>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;          LAMER OF THE MONTH.&lt;br /&gt;
          LAMER OF THE MONTH.&lt;br /&gt;
          ___________________&lt;br /&gt;
         d=b&lt;br /&gt;
         'o'INFINITY OF X-RATED&lt;br /&gt;
         /_\&lt;br /&gt;
BOD of TALENT was pretty close,but that&lt;br /&gt;
is another story. (Read MISCELLANEOUS!)&lt;br /&gt;
The topspot lamer of the month (well,the&lt;br /&gt;
whole year actually) definitely is the&lt;br /&gt;
great INFINITY of X-RATED. Most of you&lt;br /&gt;
won't know him as there is nothing he&lt;br /&gt;
could be known for. However,if you are&lt;br /&gt;
into mailtrading with a lot of European&lt;br /&gt;
lamergroups,you might have heart of him&lt;br /&gt;
before... Quite a while ago a German&lt;br /&gt;
lamer,called SPEEDER,wanted to join G*P.&lt;br /&gt;
We abused him (mean,I know) and let him&lt;br /&gt;
pay 62,5O DM every month and spread all&lt;br /&gt;
the latest G*P wares. I wonder why his&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
name was SPEEDER,not because he was a&lt;br /&gt;
speedy thinker for sure. He needed more&lt;br /&gt;
than 3 months to figure out that he was&lt;br /&gt;
not a G*P member but a copy-slave.&lt;br /&gt;
Finally he 'left' and joined a group&lt;br /&gt;
called TURTLES. It consisted of famous&lt;br /&gt;
people like ex-POISON members (namely&lt;br /&gt;
INFINITY). Well,they released a magazine&lt;br /&gt;
called 'COWABUNGA' which contained a lot&lt;br /&gt;
of anti-GENESIS stuff. We didn't care as&lt;br /&gt;
it was all silly lies that nobody (who&lt;br /&gt;
knows any of us personally) would ever&lt;br /&gt;
possibly believe in. Little INFINITY was&lt;br /&gt;
ragging and ragging. We didn't care as&lt;br /&gt;
TURTELS was just one of the many lamer-&lt;br /&gt;
groups in Europe that are known for&lt;br /&gt;
absolutely nothing at all but for a big&lt;br /&gt;
mouth. Well,his mag COWABUNGA was read&lt;br /&gt;
by no-one at all,so he decided to give&lt;br /&gt;
it another name: SANFORIZED. In issue 4&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
he wrote a report about the Nijmegen-&lt;br /&gt;
party (same as a Venlo-meeting) and he&lt;br /&gt;
claimed he meet me there and wrote a lot&lt;br /&gt;
of crap tht I should have done at that&lt;br /&gt;
party. Well,I thought,ok,if that lamer&lt;br /&gt;
won't stop writing invented stories&lt;br /&gt;
about me I'll just act likewise. And so&lt;br /&gt;
I made up that interview with INFINITY.&lt;br /&gt;
After that he released SANFORIZED #5&lt;br /&gt;
(with a new,silly main-program... It's&lt;br /&gt;
almost impossible to read any text.) in&lt;br /&gt;
which he again wrote a lot of pure&lt;br /&gt;
BULLSHIT about G*P and me in particular.&lt;br /&gt;
Well,he tried to turn people up against&lt;br /&gt;
me for about a year now and did not&lt;br /&gt;
quite succeed as most people wouldn't&lt;br /&gt;
read his mag anyway and the few who do&lt;br /&gt;
wouldn't seriously be stupid enough to&lt;br /&gt;
believe his shit. Well,now Inifity came&lt;br /&gt;
up with a new way to try to turn people&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
up against me: While I ws in Scotland&lt;br /&gt;
and France for 8 weeks Infinity used the&lt;br /&gt;
time to SEND A FAKED LETTER IN MY NAME&lt;br /&gt;
TO ALMOST EVERY MAGAZINE. Infinity tried&lt;br /&gt;
to imitate my hand-writing (check the&lt;br /&gt;
letter and compare it to older sendings&lt;br /&gt;
that I did send. You will see they look&lt;br /&gt;
similar but letters like the A,G,the no.&lt;br /&gt;
5 (in my PLK adress) are not at all my&lt;br /&gt;
handwriting.) Well,in this faked letter&lt;br /&gt;
Infinity wrote: &amp;quot;Hi,this is Antichrist&lt;br /&gt;
with some hot news for your mag... RCS&lt;br /&gt;
and RAZY were kicked out of IKARI+TALENT&lt;br /&gt;
and ROY and TMB left VICTIMS in order to&lt;br /&gt;
join I+T. Please put my adress into your&lt;br /&gt;
mag: Antichrist,XXXXXXXXXXX,blablabla.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
Well,some magazines printed that shit&lt;br /&gt;
because they really thought it was me&lt;br /&gt;
whoo hd sent them these silly news. Some&lt;br /&gt;
other mags were smart enough to ask I+T&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
if these so-called neews were true. They&lt;br /&gt;
found out it was wrong and wrote a lot&lt;br /&gt;
of crap about me (I.e. WORLDNEWS #9) as&lt;br /&gt;
they thought I was a bad,bad boy who hd&lt;br /&gt;
sent them lies. Well,all this happened&lt;br /&gt;
when I was still on holidays. Infinity&lt;br /&gt;
used the time for his plans: Whenever&lt;br /&gt;
a magazine reacted on his faked letter&lt;br /&gt;
'from Antichrist' he wrote them ANOTHER&lt;br /&gt;
FAKED LETTER UNDER MY NAME... This time&lt;br /&gt;
he ragged on them (I.e.HOTSHOT,INTERNAL,&lt;br /&gt;
WORLDNEWS,VINEWS and a looot more!) and&lt;br /&gt;
declared war to them (all by using my&lt;br /&gt;
handle). Gosh! How sick does that weird&lt;br /&gt;
idiot have to be?! He tried to turn&lt;br /&gt;
people up against me by writing shit&lt;br /&gt;
about me,when not enough people believed&lt;br /&gt;
him he now even used MY NAME to write&lt;br /&gt;
nasty letters to all mags to turn them&lt;br /&gt;
all up against me. Thank God most of&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
them were not stupid enough to believe&lt;br /&gt;
that it should be a letter from me.&lt;br /&gt;
See,it couldn't have been me to send the&lt;br /&gt;
lame note about RAZY+RCS as it is simply&lt;br /&gt;
not my style. If I would want to rag on&lt;br /&gt;
them I'd doo so in PROPAGANDA,but I'd&lt;br /&gt;
not invent silly stories about them.&lt;br /&gt;
And isn't it a weird way to rag on I+T&lt;br /&gt;
by saying ROY joined them? He's a nice&lt;br /&gt;
dude,I like him,so why would I drag him&lt;br /&gt;
into this? Would it make I+T look bad if&lt;br /&gt;
ROY joined them? The only reason why I&lt;br /&gt;
would NOT print anything bad about any-&lt;br /&gt;
one in PROPAGANDA would be,if I was&lt;br /&gt;
afraid of him and try to rag on him&lt;br /&gt;
behind his back. Well,you all know I am&lt;br /&gt;
not afraid of anyone (not because I am&lt;br /&gt;
such a hero but because we are all just&lt;br /&gt;
some ordinary boys with computers... And&lt;br /&gt;
why would I be afraid of a boy with a&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
computer?) so,I write what I think and&lt;br /&gt;
I stand up to it. So,why would I write&lt;br /&gt;
one (or even two) letters rag on someone&lt;br /&gt;
and than deny it? Why would I fake my&lt;br /&gt;
own handwriting and then print my name&lt;br /&gt;
and adress below? Why would I won't it&lt;br /&gt;
to be published in ALL mags,but not my&lt;br /&gt;
own? Besides,how can I send 1OO letters&lt;br /&gt;
from Aachen if I am in Scotland/France?&lt;br /&gt;
See,Aachen is a border city. I need 3&lt;br /&gt;
minutes to get into Belgium and the&lt;br /&gt;
Dutch border is only 2OO meters away&lt;br /&gt;
from my house. A lot of scene-dudes&lt;br /&gt;
(unknown lamers) live Kerkrrade/Holland&lt;br /&gt;
which is nothing else than a suburb of&lt;br /&gt;
Aachen at the Dutch side of the border.&lt;br /&gt;
Heerlen is 5 minutes awau from Aachen.&lt;br /&gt;
SONIX/POWERS OF PAIN,TWIST(ex-PARAMOUNT)&lt;br /&gt;
DWARF (ex-MANOWAR) nd many more live&lt;br /&gt;
there. And so does INFINITY,so for him&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
it was no problem at all to come to&lt;br /&gt;
Aachen and mail all the letters he wrote&lt;br /&gt;
in my name. This lamer is so patheticly&lt;br /&gt;
trying to put people on his side that&lt;br /&gt;
he doesn't even keeps the smallest bit&lt;br /&gt;
of fairness. Can you go any lower than&lt;br /&gt;
sending out annoying letters and war-&lt;br /&gt;
declarations under the handle of a&lt;br /&gt;
person you'd like to put down but you&lt;br /&gt;
are not able to as you have not a single&lt;br /&gt;
argument against him? Infinity,you are&lt;br /&gt;
a poor little kid. I pitty you. Do you&lt;br /&gt;
seriously believe you will get through&lt;br /&gt;
with all that shit? When you sent your&lt;br /&gt;
note 'ANTISCHEISS' to STEAMHAMMER he&lt;br /&gt;
told me to kill you. Why should I? You&lt;br /&gt;
disqualify yourself with your own lame-&lt;br /&gt;
ness. I don't need to do anything to it.&lt;br /&gt;
Well,maybe I will write an answer to&lt;br /&gt;
your note. It won't be to rag on you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I will just state out some facts which&lt;br /&gt;
will reveal how silly your lies are.&lt;br /&gt;
Just one little example:&lt;br /&gt;
One of your great reasons,why G*P is&lt;br /&gt;
supposed to be lame,is that you say we&lt;br /&gt;
did not hve the First Release of THE&lt;br /&gt;
POWER. Well,ask ANY American. Our crack&lt;br /&gt;
was the first to be on all the boards&lt;br /&gt;
and the definition of the term 'First&lt;br /&gt;
Release' is 'the first 1OO% crack of a&lt;br /&gt;
game that is put on all the boards'.&lt;br /&gt;
Even MAMBA wrote we had the First&lt;br /&gt;
Release.&lt;br /&gt;
You also wrote we were lame because we&lt;br /&gt;
had the First Release of QUICK DRAW MC&lt;br /&gt;
RAW and since DEEK made the music for&lt;br /&gt;
it,it wasn't hard to get it and so we&lt;br /&gt;
are lame. A-HA! Very smart argumentation&lt;br /&gt;
really! (Haha...) Of course it was not&lt;br /&gt;
hard to get it as a First Release. It&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
was supplied by the PUNISHER. He works&lt;br /&gt;
in a British software-store and gets all&lt;br /&gt;
games for free. He also supplied the&lt;br /&gt;
First Releases of SLY SPY,ELEPHANT ANTIC&lt;br /&gt;
and a lot more. However,we never pay for&lt;br /&gt;
any game... Is that lame? All these&lt;br /&gt;
wanna-be elites nowadays run into their&lt;br /&gt;
local computer-stores and buy any game&lt;br /&gt;
that looks new. If they are lucky they&lt;br /&gt;
are quicker than all the other little&lt;br /&gt;
lamers who run into their local stores&lt;br /&gt;
to get a First Release... If they are&lt;br /&gt;
not lucky (or their bus was too slow&lt;br /&gt;
or whatever) they don't get home fast&lt;br /&gt;
enough,so they won't have a First&lt;br /&gt;
Release and so they spent all their&lt;br /&gt;
money for nothing. We don't spend any&lt;br /&gt;
money at all. Are you sure we are the&lt;br /&gt;
lamers? Then you did not at all get the&lt;br /&gt;
sense of a real 'First Release'.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
However,DEEK made the music for more&lt;br /&gt;
than 7O ganes. Why did we not release&lt;br /&gt;
them all if he gives us the games he&lt;br /&gt;
makes the music for?!? Could it be,you&lt;br /&gt;
don't know a shit what you are talking&lt;br /&gt;
about? In fact it works like this:&lt;br /&gt;
Companies call DEEK and tell him they&lt;br /&gt;
need a spooky tune for a monster-game&lt;br /&gt;
or a funky music for a Science Fiction&lt;br /&gt;
Shoot'em Up or whatever. They tell him&lt;br /&gt;
the raster-time he  may use and the&lt;br /&gt;
memory-location where to put it. He&lt;br /&gt;
tells them the price and the deal is&lt;br /&gt;
done. He composes a tune and sends it&lt;br /&gt;
to the company. He does not get the&lt;br /&gt;
game and often he does not even know&lt;br /&gt;
the name of the game. Well,I could go&lt;br /&gt;
on and on,and kill all your lies one&lt;br /&gt;
by one... But you are simply not worth&lt;br /&gt;
to get more pages in PROPAGANDA.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    MOST ACTIVE GROUP OF THE MONTH.&lt;br /&gt;
    MOST ACTIVE GROUP OF THE MONTH.&lt;br /&gt;
    _______________________________&lt;br /&gt;
               d=b&lt;br /&gt;
               'o'ENIGMA&lt;br /&gt;
               /_\&lt;br /&gt;
They released plenty of stuff. Well,most&lt;br /&gt;
of it was crap but they did have quite a&lt;br /&gt;
few good releases,though.&lt;br /&gt;
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   BEST CRACKING GROUP OF THE MONTH.&lt;br /&gt;
   BEST CRACKING GROUP OF THE MONTH.&lt;br /&gt;
   _________________________________&lt;br /&gt;
               d=b&lt;br /&gt;
               'o'LEGEND&lt;br /&gt;
               /_\&lt;br /&gt;
They did not have as many releases as&lt;br /&gt;
ENIGMA,but they had most of the major&lt;br /&gt;
games... And now that IKARI joined them&lt;br /&gt;
they might be an interesting group to&lt;br /&gt;
watch. (Although,as far as I know it&lt;br /&gt;
was TALENT to be responsible for all&lt;br /&gt;
the wares IKARI+TALENT put out...)&lt;br /&gt;
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     BEST DEMO GROUP ON THE MONTH.&lt;br /&gt;
     BEST DEMO GROUP ON THE MONTH.&lt;br /&gt;
     _____________________________&lt;br /&gt;
          d=b&lt;br /&gt;
          'o'PANORAMIC DESIGN&lt;br /&gt;
          /_\&lt;br /&gt;
We just looove their demos! They still&lt;br /&gt;
know what a demo is all about. It's not&lt;br /&gt;
meant to show some 'lame' routines that&lt;br /&gt;
everyone can do anyway,but to show new&lt;br /&gt;
effects and ideas. Neither the coding&lt;br /&gt;
nor the graphics in their demos might&lt;br /&gt;
be perfect (Though they do have the&lt;br /&gt;
ability to do excellent graphics!) but&lt;br /&gt;
what they do with it is brilliant.&lt;br /&gt;
And they put out a LOT of demos,that's&lt;br /&gt;
why I prefer them rather than MODERN&lt;br /&gt;
ARTS. MDA are excellent demo-designers,&lt;br /&gt;
but pretty lazy... And so are BLACKMAIL.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
        BEST DEMO OF NEXT MONTH.&lt;br /&gt;
        BEST DEMO OF NEXT MONTH.&lt;br /&gt;
        ________________________&lt;br /&gt;
            d=b&lt;br /&gt;
            'o'DUTCH BREEZE&lt;br /&gt;
            /_\&lt;br /&gt;
Yes,it's strange to give an award to a&lt;br /&gt;
demo that hasn't even been released yet.&lt;br /&gt;
Well,I had to do it anyway. I thought&lt;br /&gt;
BLACKMAIL was dead (HEIN DESIGN wrote&lt;br /&gt;
that in a letter to SCRAP a long time&lt;br /&gt;
ago.) so I told people to stop voting&lt;br /&gt;
for HEIN DESIGN and BLACKMAIL. But,when&lt;br /&gt;
I visited DEEK in Scotland he showed me&lt;br /&gt;
an almost finished preview of DUTCH&lt;br /&gt;
BREEZE and it was AWESOME! HEIN DESIGN&lt;br /&gt;
made some really great convertions...&lt;br /&gt;
That preview was excellent,so make sure&lt;br /&gt;
you'll get that demo soon!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
        BIGMOUTHS OF THE MONTH.&lt;br /&gt;
        BIGMOUTHS OF THE MONTH.&lt;br /&gt;
        _______________________&lt;br /&gt;
          d=b&lt;br /&gt;
          'o'HYSTERIC+INSIDERS&lt;br /&gt;
          /_\&lt;br /&gt;
Actually ALL German groups would deserve&lt;br /&gt;
this award as they all declare to be the&lt;br /&gt;
ultimate #1. However,HYSTERIC said they&lt;br /&gt;
were real heros,but their releases speak&lt;br /&gt;
another language: What they release is&lt;br /&gt;
old shit and sick crap that nobody would&lt;br /&gt;
want to release. I seriously wonder what&lt;br /&gt;
they need a low budget label for,as&lt;br /&gt;
there is no difference between the games&lt;br /&gt;
they release under their real name and&lt;br /&gt;
the ones they release under 'ULTIMATE'.&lt;br /&gt;
INSIDERS claim to be old legends...&lt;br /&gt;
Well,all they are is a bunch of losers.&lt;br /&gt;
HYSTERIC+INSIDERS released a version of&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
the &amp;quot;Disk Magazine Creator&amp;quot; (DMC) which&lt;br /&gt;
was the first program that was protected&lt;br /&gt;
by SNACKY. They put it out more than 4&lt;br /&gt;
months after it was published. In a note&lt;br /&gt;
they boasted how good they were,but they&lt;br /&gt;
actually couldn't crack (=remove the&lt;br /&gt;
copy-protection) the program properly.&lt;br /&gt;
All they did was to imitate the timers,&lt;br /&gt;
so the program does not work completely.&lt;br /&gt;
For more details read SNACKY's article&lt;br /&gt;
in the next issue of PROPAGANDA!&lt;br /&gt;
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