Ymgve at 17:28, 18 June 2007

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CHARTS
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Gosh,man! When I looked through the
voting-papers I just couldn't believe
it!! Do really only complete FOOLS vote?
See,I got papers with stupid votes like:
-BEST DEMO GROUP:
1.BONZAI
2.COLLISION -BEST SINGLE CRACKER:
3.DEATHOY 1.TERMINATOR/X-RATED
4.CHROMANCE 2.TONY/COLLISION Oh NOO!
5.TRIAD 3.DOC
8.G*P
7.TAT -BEST GRAPHIC ARTISTS:
8.INCERIA 1.MR.OLLIE/CROSS WHAT?!
2.COKE/TRL DESIGN Who?
3.EROTYC/DUPLEX Hugh?

COLLISION?!? DEATHOY?!? INCERIA?!?

-BEST CODERS:
1.DOMIX/COLLISION I can't believe it!
2.SES/G*P
3.CURLIN/TRIAD <Hahahaha!!

This shit was voted by AL BUNDY/CLIQUE.

EXOTYC/DUPLEX voted:

-BEST SINGLE CRACKERS:
1.BOD <Even I'm better than him!
2.DOC Doc,Powerplant,Snacky,
3.POWERPLANT Dogfriend and Jihad are
4.SNACKY 1OO times better than
5.XXX BOD. Anyone who has the
6.HTT slightest bit of know-
7.GOBLIN ledge about cracking
8.DOGFRIEND knows that.
9.SPITFIRE <CRISP and JIHAD are
10.JIHAD way better than Spitty.

DEAN/ALPHAFLIGHT sent this crap:
-BEST OVERALL GROUPS:
1.FLASH INC. Well,FLASH are cool dudes
2.DOM and a VERY good demogroup,
3.I+T but do they crack? No,they
4.BONZAI only make demos. DOM,I+T
5.PANDORA and PANDORA can't code...
So,from all the groups on
this list only BONZAI is
an 'alround-group'.

-BEST MAGS:
1.PROPAGANDDA <Get out of my ass!
2.BILD-ZEITUNG
3.CORRUPTION <Did you see an issue?
4.INDEPENDENT <What about SHOCK?
5.BRUTAL RECALL

CHRIS/PANDORA sent me this shit:
-BEST SINGLE CRACKERS
1.POWERPLANT
2.DERBY RAM <If Derbyshire Ram is going
3.SNACKY to read this,he will
probably die of laughing.

I talked to some elite-people from many
different groups (I.e. Action+Victims)
and they all agreed that charts are
complete BULLSHIT! Only LAMERS vote...
See,an elite-coder,who really knows who
is a GOOD coder and who is NOT,is always
too lazy to vote. No elite-cracker would
send his votings to any magazine because
he has better things to do. Did anyone
of you ever get votings from SNACKY? Or
from POWERPLANT? From ANTITRACK? From
DOC? No. They crack,they don't really
care what all these 1O.OOO magazines

write. 98% of the people who vote are
little lamers (mostly swappers) who just
want to get their adress into some
magazine-contact-corners. But they don't
know a shit about cracking,coding,music
or graphics. They are not even on the
boards so they never know who has a
first release. All the games they get
are some days old,so all these people
who vote are stupid,blind,brainless
cows. So,all the charts are complete
bullshit. I know,SEX'N'CRIME invented
them,but they are bullshit anyway. See,
it's IMPOSSIBLE to get realistic charts
when 98% of the people who send voting-
papers don't know anything at all. They
THINK BOD is a good cracker... While
real crackers KNOW BOD can't crack shit.
Well,I guess you get the point.

And what about votings from the boards?
There's a lot of 'elite' folks on the
boards,so they could vote,right?!
BUUUULLSHIIIT! See,just because I am in
GENESIS does not mean I know anything
about cracking. Just because SKATER is
in CENSOR he doesn't know anything about
coding. Most people on the boards are
American runners or Euro leechers and
none of them knows shit about anything,
even though they might be in a pretty
famous group.
All they can judge on is who puts out a
lot and who doesn't. So,they could say
who is active and who is not,but as
almost everybody is in war with anyone
(NEI vs EMPIRE,ACTION vs LEGEND,TALENT
vs VICTIMS... Whatever...) nobody is
really objective. NEI would never vote
for EMPIRE and EMPIRE would never admit

that NEI is quite good. So,the people
involved would never really be fair...
Well,I could say I don't give a shit
and really count all the voting-papers
and if you wouldn't like the charts you
would say I cheat,so all my work was for
nothing. ...But,no way,I am not going to
spend 1O days to count hundreds of
completely senseless lamer-votings.

We made up our own rankings last month
and we do it again this month. I did not
make them up alone (Who am I to decide
who is a good coder or cracker?) but I
talked to some (competent) freaks. For
example: JIHAD,SNACKY and some other
crackers told me who are GOOD CRACKERS.
Well,what I'm trying to say is,although
rankings can never be objective,we think
the rankings in PROPAGANDA are by far

more representative and realistic than
ANY charts in ANY magazine.
We try to be fair. If you like them,
fine. If you don't like them,don't read
them. We told you before,there are a lot
of other magazines you can read instead.

Maybe we will invent another system to
present the scene,but we will definitely
not publish any charts anymore. Maybe we
will do something similar to what we did
in BAD NEWS... Every issue we will ask
a famous (good) cracker about his
personal cracker-rankings,a famous coder
about his personal coder-rankings,a
famous artist about his artist-rankings
etc.etc. I guess THAT is the ONLY fair
way. Anyway,here are our rankings for
this month.

CRACKING GROUPS.
CRACKING GROUPS.
________________
NO. NAME SPD QLT QNT SYM TOTL
________________________________________
O1. Genesis*Project 10 10 0 10 -
O2. Legend 10 9 10 9 -
O3. Enigma 10 4 9 7 -
O4. Dominators 10 5 7 8 -
O5. Action 10 7 8 10 -
O6. Censor Design 10 3 1 10 -
O7. Victims 10 7 1 10 -
O8. Talent 10 3 4 0 -
O9. F4CG 3 4 0 9 -
1O. Light 0 5 2 7 -
11. X-Ray 0 5 0 2 -
12. Verdict 4 0 3 4 -
13. Pandora 5 4 3 2 -
14. Triad 0 5 4 1 -
15. Alphaflight 0 0 1 0 -

DEMO GROUPS.
DEMO GROUPS.
____________
NO. NAME DES COD QNT SYM TOTL
________________________________________
O1. Crest 6 10 3 10 -
O2. Genesis*Project 9 10 8 10 -
O3. Modern Arts 10 7 0 10 -
O4. The Voice 8 8 0 9 -
O5. Censor Design 9 8 4 10 -
O6. Camelot 7 9 2 10 -
O7. Panoramic D. 9 7 8 10 -
O8. Origo 6 9 0 8 -
O9. Flash Inc. 7 9 5 9 -
1O. Cosmos Designs 6 8 0 7 -
11. Megastyle 10 8 0 10 -
12. Beyond Force 3 7 1 6 -
13. Light 1 8 7 7 -
14. X-Factor 6 7 5 7 -
15. Bonzai 7 6 5 4 -

EURO IMPORTERS.
EURO IMPORTERS.
_______________
NO. GROUP POINTS
________________________________________
O1. Censor Design 6
O2. Genesis*Project 5
O3. Enigma 4
O4. Action 3
O5. Legend 3

U S IMPORTERS.
U.S.IMPORTERS.
______________
________________________________________
O1. Empire 10
O2. NEI 7
O3. Mirage 4
O4. ATC 2
O5. TSM 1

BEST CRACKERS.
BEST CRACKERS.
______________
NO. CRACKER GROUP POINTS
________________________________________
O1. Snacky Genesis*Project 10
O2. Antitrack Legend 9
O3. Crisp Action 8
O4. Tyger Genesis*Project 8
O5. Powerplant Legend 8
O6. Doc Legend 8
O7. Rockstar Victims 7
O8. Jihad Action 7
O9. Sauron Enigma 6
1O. Dogfriend Dominators 6
11. Injun Inc. Light 5
12. Rocky Enigma 5
13. Syndicate Victims 4
14. Bacchus Fairlight 3
15. Richie Enigma 3

BEST GRAPHIC ARTISTS.
BEST GRAPHIC ARTISTS.
_____________________
NO. ARTIST GROUP POINTS
________________________________________
O1. Bizzmo Genesis*Project 10
O2. Hein Design Blackmail 9
O3. Sparkler Megastyle 9
O4. Sensei Censor Design 9
O5. Richard Panoramic Design 9
O6. Tim Modern Arts 8
O7. Scrap Genesis*Project 7
O8. Dragon Censor Design 7
O9. Crept Flash Inc. 7
1O. Redstar Logic 6
11. SES Genesis*Project 6
12. Mirage Censor Design 5
13. Morresey Lords 5
14. VIP Crest 4
15. Goblin Light 3

BEST MUSICIANS.
BEST MUSICIANS.
_______________
NO. ARTIST GROUP POINTS
________________________________________
O1. Deek Vibrants/Genesis 10
O2. Laxity Vibrants/Bonzai 10
O3. Link Vibrants 9
O4. Jeroen Tel Phyzics 9
O5. Char. Deenen Maniacs of Noise 9
O6. Drax Vibrants/Bonzai 8
O7. JCH Vibrants 8
O8. HJE Genesis*Project 8
O9. A-MAN Action 8
1O. EVS 2OCC 7
1O. O. Petersen Prosonix/Panoramic 7
11. Metal Bonzai 7
12. Roel Bosh Audial Arts 7
15. Guy S. Sidchip Scratchers 6
15. Xayne Crest 5

BEST CODERS.
BEST CODERS.
____________
NO. ARTIST GROUP POINTS
________________________________________
O1. SES Genesis*Project 10
O2. FGTH Genesis*Project 9
O3. Crossbow Crest 9
O4. Flamingo Light 8
O5. Clf Origo 8
O6. Yabba Light 7
O7. Glasnost Camelot 7
O8. THA Bonzai 6
O9. Scroll Megastyle Inc. 6
1O. Xentrix X-Factor 5
11. Mc Sprite Cosmos Design 5
12. Uxorious Flash Inc. 5
13. Scrap Genesis*Project 5
14. Raistlin Genesis*Project 5
15. Lubber Padua 4

BEST SPREADERS.
BEST SPREADERS.
_______________
NO. SPREADER GROUP POINTS
________________________________________
O1. Antichrist Genesis*Project 10
O2. Steamhammer Genesis*Project 9
O3. Derby Ram Dominators 9
O4. Razy Legend 8
O5. Moron Paradize 8
O6. Silco Paradize 7
O7. Scrap Genesis*Project 7
O8. Brego Triad 7
O9. Scortia Bonzai 6
1O. Adolf Victims 6
11. Spiderman X-Factor 5
12. Morris Cross 4
13. Airwolf Action 3
14. Scipio Role 2
15. Attraction Pandora 1

COOLEST PERSON AROUND.
COOLEST PERSON AROUND.
______________________
NO. COOLIE GROUP POINTS
________________________________________
O1. Aunty Christ Gummi Penis 10
O2. Derby Ram Dominators 10
O3. Jihad Action 10
O4. Sorceress Victims 9
O5. Steamhammer Genesis*Project 9
O6. Drake Victims 9
O7. Weasel Enigma 8
O8. Grim Reaper NEI 8
O9. Skater Censor Design 8
1O. Cyborg ? 7
11. Black Heart Black Reign 7
12. Silco Paradize 6
13. Mr. Smart Bonzai 5
14. Druid Verdict 5
15. Murdock NEI 5

BIGGEST LAMERS.
BIGGEST LAMERS.
_______________
NO. LAMER GROUP POINTS
________________________________________
O1. Infinity X-Rated 10
O2. Sting Enigma 9
O3. Bod Talent 9
O4. Narc Legend 9
O5. Anthrax Legend 9
O6. Exory Navy Seals(?) 8
O7. Wildcat ICS 8
O8. Oekopeter Enigma/Mamba 8
O9. Gotcha ByteRiders 8
1O. Trisect T.Electric Boyz 7
11. SYS Alphaflight 6
12. Parson Nato 5
13. Une Inceria 4
14. Stefan Huels Spherical Designs 3
15. Curlin Triad 3

COOLEST MAGAZINES.
COOLEST MAGAZINES.
__________________
NO. MAGAZINE GROUP POINTS
________________________________________
O1. Propaganda Genesis*Project 10
O2. Shock Censor Design 9
O3. Rock'n'Role Role 8
O4. Hotshot Flash 8
O5. Bild Zeitung X-Ray 6

FAVOURITE BOARDS.
FAVOURITE BOARDS.
_________________
NO BOARD GROUP PTS
________________________________________
O1. The Forum Enigma
O2. Mystic Cavern Victims
O3. Terminal Obsession Censor+NEI
O4. Dream Park Genesis+Eclipse
O5. Channel Zero Action+Empire
O6. Second to None Legend
O7. Drop Zone Dominators
O8. Gee-Spot Enigma
O9. Shaolin Temple TSM+Talent
1O. Tunnel of Wares ATC+Dom+ICS

FAVOURITE DEMO.
FAVOURITE DEMO.
_______________
NO DEMO GROUP
________________________________________
O1. Dutch Breeze Blackmail 10
O2. Pez In My Brain Panoramic D. 9
O3. The Unnamed Demo Camelot 8
O4. Vector Magic 2 Triumwyrat 7
O5. Wisdom Triad 6

DEMO REVIEWS.
DEMO REVIEWS.
_____________
AS THERE IS NOT MUCH MEMORY LEFT IN THE
OTHER TOPIC-FILES WE DECIDED TO PUT THE
DEMO-REVIEWS RIGHT BEHIND THE CHARTS...

SCRAP REVIEWED ABOUT 30 NEW DEMOS,BUT TO
READ THEM ALL WOULD BE PRETTY BORING,AS
MOST OF THE DEMOS WERE NOT REALLY ANY-
THING SPECIAL. WE DECIDED TO PRINT ONLY
A SELECTION OF THE MOST INTERESTING
REVIEWS.

"PEZ IN MY BRAIN" FROM PANORAMIC DESIGN
PEZ IN MY BRAIN FROM PANORAMIC DESIGN
________________________________________
A typical PANORAMIC DESIGN demo! Only
one file with 3 parts. No scrollers but
many unique effects. Maybe nothing hard
to code but very stylish! This is one
for your collection!

CODE. ..
CODE. --
MUSIC. ..
MUSIC. \/
DESIGN. **
DESIGN. \/
GRAPHIC. ..
GRAPHIC. --
OVERALL. ..
OVERALL. \/ SCRAP

"SUMMERPACK" FROM THE RULING COMPANY
SUMMERPACK FROM THE RULING COMPANY
________________________________________
Average graphics (mostly logos really),
64 flickering bobs and some nice and
complex plot routines. No,don't shoot
me! I liked the music. I liked it.
I liked it! I LIKED IT!! Heeeeeelp!!!
ACTION JACKSON is after me!

CODE. ..
CODE. --
MUSIC. ..
MUSIC. \/
DESIGN. ..
DESIGN. /\
GRAPHIC. ..
GRAPHIC. --
OVERALL. ..
OVERALL. -- SCRAP

"RIPPING YARNS" FROM CLIQUE
RIPPING YARNS FROM CLIQUE
________________________________________
Yeuch! This demo is bad,and I mean BAD.
Why bother loading it? Because you get
to see extremely BAD logos,BAD coding
and BAD design,and oooold ripped musics.
An ancient credo says: Don't code a demo
if you can't code a demo...

CODE. ..
CODE. ><
MUSIC. ..
MUSIC. ><
DESIGN. ..
DESIGN. ><
GRAPHIC. ..
GRAPHIC. ><
OVERALL. ..
OVERALL. >< SCRAP

"PSYKOLOG" FROM PANORAMIC DESIGN
PSYKOLOG FROM PANORAMIC DESIGN
________________________________________
I loooove these weird PANORAMIC demos!
Again a small one-filer,again many funny
ideas... This demo is dedicated to the
good old days and the good old coders:
The routines are oldies,the musics are
ancient. This demo is better than any
museum!
CODE. ..
CODE. /\
MUSIC. ..
MUSIC. --
DESIGN. **
DESIGN. \/
GRAPHIC. ..
GRAPHIC. ><
OVERALL. ..
OVERALL. \/ SCRAP

"THE UNNAMED DEMO" FROM CAMELOT
THE UNNAMED DEMO FROM CAMELOT
________________________________________
I don't know much about CAMELOT... But
now I know one thing for sure... They
make nice demos! I really loved that
excellent Zoomer.

CODE. **
CODE. \/
MUSIC. ..
MUSIC. \/
DESIGN. ..
DESIGN. \/
GRAPHIC. ..
GRAPHIC. --
OVERALL. ..
OVERALL. \/ SCRAP

"VECTOR MAGIC II" FROM TRIUMWYRAT
VECTOR MAGIC II FROM TRIUMWYRAT
________________________________________
As the name says,it's all about vectors.
And it's pretty cool! A lot of animated
vectors,and I mean animated. Seems like
TRIUMWYRAT are Hungary's #1 demo group.

CODE. **
CODE. \/
MUSIC. ..
MUSIC. --
DESIGN. ..
DESIGN. --
GRAPHIC. ..
GRAPHIC. \/
OVERALL. ..
OVERALL. \/ SCRAP

"DEMONSTRATION" FROM TDU
DEMONSTRATION FROM TDU
________________________________________
Australian demos should be forbidden!
Yet another seen-one-seen'em-all demo.
Bad Logos,super-simple-1987 coding,and
old ripped music you've heart a thousand
times before. BAD NEWS was right...
Australian demos no good.

CODE. ..
CODE. ><
MUSIC. ..
MUSIC. /\
DESIGN. ..
DESIGN. ><
GRAPHIC. ..
GRAPHIC. ><
OVERALL. ..
OVERALL. >< SCRAP

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