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		<title>Vargaviktor at 22:49, 24 June 2009</title>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;            commodore h&amp;amp;iacute;rek            m&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
nem is olyan r&amp;amp;eacute;g sz&amp;amp;ouml;rny&amp;amp;#369; h&amp;amp;iacute;rek r&amp;amp;aacute;zt&amp;amp;aacute;k&lt;br /&gt;
meg a commodore h&amp;amp;iacute;v&amp;amp;#337;k milli&amp;amp;aacute;rdjait.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
a commodore c&amp;amp;eacute;g fizet&amp;amp;eacute;sk&amp;amp;eacute;ptelenn&amp;amp;eacute; v&amp;amp;aacute;lt,&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;amp;ouml;ncs&amp;amp;#337;d&amp;amp;ouml;t jelentett.sok&amp;amp;aacute;ig k&amp;amp;eacute;tes infok&lt;br /&gt;
keringtek az elad&amp;amp;aacute;sr&amp;amp;oacute;l,&amp;amp;eacute;s a vev&amp;amp;#337;k ter-&lt;br /&gt;
veir&amp;amp;#337;l.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
most v&amp;amp;eacute;gre tiszta vizet lehet &amp;amp;ouml;nteni a&lt;br /&gt;
poh&amp;amp;aacute;rba:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
a commodore c&amp;amp;eacute;get az escom vette meg,&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;amp;ouml;sszesen 10 milli&amp;amp;oacute; doll&amp;amp;aacute;r&amp;amp;eacute;rt.(ennyit,&lt;br /&gt;
sim&amp;amp;aacute;n meg&amp;amp;eacute;r.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
terveikr&amp;amp;#337;l nyilatkoztak egy sajt&amp;amp;oacute;t&amp;amp;aacute;j&amp;amp;eacute;-&lt;br /&gt;
koztat&amp;amp;oacute;n:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-&amp;amp;uacute;jra gy&amp;amp;aacute;rtani fogj&amp;amp;aacute;k a c64-est,&amp;amp;eacute;s a k&amp;amp;iacute;-&lt;br /&gt;
nai piacon fogj&amp;amp;aacute;k forgalmazni.&lt;br /&gt;
 ez a terv sok vit&amp;amp;aacute;t v&amp;amp;aacute;lt ki,&amp;amp;eacute;s sokan&lt;br /&gt;
megk&amp;amp;eacute;rd&amp;amp;#337;jelezik ennek &amp;amp;eacute;rtelm&amp;amp;eacute;t...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-&amp;amp;uacute;jra gy&amp;amp;aacute;rtani fogj&amp;amp;aacute;k az amiga1200-est&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;amp;eacute;s az amoga4000-est.egyes hiresztel&amp;amp;eacute;sek-&lt;br /&gt;
kel szemben tov&amp;amp;aacute;bbra is a motorola proci&lt;br /&gt;
lesz a g&amp;amp;eacute;p sz&amp;amp;iacute;ve.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-a commodore pc-k sz&amp;amp;iacute;ve viszont intel&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;amp;eacute;s/vagy power pc t&amp;amp;iacute;pus&amp;amp;uacute; lesz.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;amp;eacute;s most egy kicsit b&amp;amp;#337;vebben a c64-r&amp;amp;#337;l:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
a c64 gy&amp;amp;aacute;rt&amp;amp;aacute;sa bennem rem&amp;amp;eacute;nyeket kellt,&lt;br /&gt;
tal&amp;amp;aacute;n lesz m&amp;amp;eacute;g m&amp;amp;aacute;sodik aranykora a szu-&lt;br /&gt;
perg&amp;amp;eacute;pnek.azonban egy bizonyos szar ma-&lt;br /&gt;
gazinban (k&amp;amp;ouml;ny&amp;amp;iacute;t&amp;amp;eacute;s&amp;amp;uuml;l el&amp;amp;aacute;rulom,hogy az&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;amp;uacute;js&amp;amp;aacute;g neve sz&amp;amp;aacute;mokbol &amp;amp;aacute;ll.) egy bunk&amp;amp;oacute; azt&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;amp;iacute;rta,hogy ez h&amp;amp;uuml;lyes&amp;amp;eacute;g,mert nincs r&amp;amp;aacute;&lt;br /&gt;
programell&amp;amp;aacute;t&amp;amp;aacute;s, ...&lt;br /&gt;
szerintem a piacra bevezet&amp;amp;eacute;shez b&amp;amp;#337;ven&lt;br /&gt;
el&amp;amp;eacute;g lesz az eddig elk&amp;amp;eacute;sz&amp;amp;uuml;lt,kb.5000-&lt;br /&gt;
6000 program (ez most egy al&amp;amp;aacute;becsl&amp;amp;eacute;s&lt;br /&gt;
volt.) meg azt&amp;amp;aacute;n a k&amp;amp;iacute;nai piac nagy piac,&lt;br /&gt;
elv&amp;amp;eacute;gre 1 milli&amp;amp;aacute;rd k&amp;amp;iacute;nai van.&lt;br /&gt;
azt&amp;amp;aacute;n m&amp;amp;eacute;g most kelet-eur&amp;amp;oacute;p&amp;amp;aacute;ban (ami u-&lt;br /&gt;
gyan f&amp;amp;ouml;ldrajzilag k&amp;amp;ouml;z&amp;amp;eacute;p-eur&amp;amp;oacute;p&amp;amp;aacute;ban van),&lt;br /&gt;
ide &amp;amp;eacute;rtem lengyelorsz&amp;amp;aacute;got,magyarorsz&amp;amp;aacute;-&lt;br /&gt;
got,csehorsz&amp;amp;aacute;got &amp;amp;eacute;s n&amp;amp;eacute;metorsz&amp;amp;aacute;g keleti&lt;br /&gt;
fel&amp;amp;eacute;t,m&amp;amp;eacute;g k&amp;amp;eacute;sz&amp;amp;uuml;lnek &amp;amp;uacute;j j&amp;amp;aacute;t&amp;amp;eacute;kok,&amp;amp;eacute;s a mi-&lt;br /&gt;
n&amp;amp;#337;s&amp;amp;eacute;g se rossz.&lt;br /&gt;
n&amp;amp;eacute;zze meg pl.'zone of darkness' j&amp;amp;aacute;t&amp;amp;eacute;k&lt;br /&gt;
demoj&amp;amp;aacute;t,&amp;amp;eacute;s garant&amp;amp;aacute;ltan sz&amp;amp;eacute;jjelhal az&lt;br /&gt;
agya att&amp;amp;oacute;l a l&amp;amp;aacute;tv&amp;amp;aacute;nyt&amp;amp;oacute;l.(annyira j&amp;amp;oacute;!)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
+*+*+*+**+**+*+*+*+*+**+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ha engem k&amp;amp;eacute;rdeznek,akkor azonban azt ja-&lt;br /&gt;
vasoln&amp;amp;aacute;m,hogy ink&amp;amp;aacute;bb a c65 gy&amp;amp;aacute;rt&amp;amp;aacute;s&amp;amp;aacute;t&lt;br /&gt;
forsz&amp;amp;iacute;rozz&amp;amp;aacute;k,mert sz&amp;amp;aacute;momra van n&amp;amp;eacute;h&amp;amp;aacute;ny&lt;br /&gt;
olyan tulajdons&amp;amp;aacute;ga,amit nem tudok elfe-&lt;br /&gt;
lejteni.ha valaki nem hallott volna m&amp;amp;eacute;g&lt;br /&gt;
r&amp;amp;oacute;la,akkor itt van egy le&amp;amp;iacute;r&amp;amp;aacute;s:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
              ()&lt;br /&gt;
              &amp;amp;amp;'&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
a commodore 65:&lt;br /&gt;
---------------&lt;br /&gt;
mem&amp;amp;oacute;ria,oper&amp;amp;aacute;ci&amp;amp;oacute;s rendszer:&lt;br /&gt;
---------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
-128k rom,2.0-&amp;amp;aacute;s &amp;amp;eacute;s 10.0-&amp;amp;aacute;s basic-kel,&amp;amp;eacute;s&lt;br /&gt;
be&amp;amp;eacute;p&amp;amp;iacute;tett speeddos-szal.&lt;br /&gt;
-128k ram,8 meg&amp;amp;aacute;ig b&amp;amp;#337;v&amp;amp;iacute;thet&amp;amp;#337;!&lt;br /&gt;
-&amp;amp;aacute;ll&amp;amp;iacute;t&amp;amp;oacute;lag az &amp;amp;ouml;sszes c64,c128-as program&lt;br /&gt;
fut rajta.&lt;br /&gt;
-a proci a'szem 3.5mhz-en ketyeg.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
grafika:&lt;br /&gt;
--------&lt;br /&gt;
-az al&amp;amp;aacute;bbi felbont&amp;amp;aacute;sokat tudja:&lt;br /&gt;
   - 320x200      256sz&amp;amp;iacute;n&lt;br /&gt;
   - 320x400       16sz&amp;amp;iacute;n&lt;br /&gt;
   - 640x200       16sz&amp;amp;iacute;n&lt;br /&gt;
   - 640x400        4sz&amp;amp;iacute;n&lt;br /&gt;
   -1280x200        4sz&amp;amp;iacute;n&lt;br /&gt;
   -1280x400        2sz&amp;amp;iacute;n(hires)&lt;br /&gt;
-van benne az amig&amp;amp;aacute;kb&amp;amp;oacute;l ismert *dma bit&lt;br /&gt;
blitter*.&lt;br /&gt;
-a g&amp;amp;eacute;p pal szabv&amp;amp;aacute;ny&amp;amp;uacute;,de elmegy ntsc a-&lt;br /&gt;
latt is,nincsen inkommpatibilit&amp;amp;aacute;s.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
zene:&lt;br /&gt;
-----&lt;br /&gt;
2x(3+digi) csatorna&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
i/o:&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
-be&amp;amp;eacute;p&amp;amp;iacute;tett 3.5*-os 1 meg&amp;amp;aacute;s,nem gcr for-&lt;br /&gt;
m&amp;amp;aacute;tum&amp;amp;uacute; drive&lt;br /&gt;
(a gcr form&amp;amp;aacute;tum az,amit az 1541 haszn&amp;amp;aacute;l)&lt;br /&gt;
-usart chip&lt;br /&gt;
-a portokra minden,m&amp;amp;eacute;g apr&amp;amp;oacute; nyal&amp;amp;aacute;nks&amp;amp;aacute;gok&lt;br /&gt;
is ki vannak vezetve.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ezekb&amp;amp;#337;l ami megfogott:&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------&lt;br /&gt;
-h&amp;amp;aacute;t az a 320x200-as 256 sz&amp;amp;iacute;n&amp;amp;#369; grafika&lt;br /&gt;
nem semmi,a legt&amp;amp;ouml;bb pc-s j&amp;amp;aacute;t&amp;amp;eacute;k a mai&lt;br /&gt;
napig ezt a felbont&amp;amp;aacute;st haszn&amp;amp;aacute;lja,b&amp;amp;aacute;r mi-&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;amp;oacute;ta cd-rom j&amp;amp;aacute;t&amp;amp;eacute;kok vannak haszn&amp;amp;aacute;ljak&lt;br /&gt;
a nagyobb felbont&amp;amp;aacute;sokat is.&lt;br /&gt;
-a 2x(3+digi) csatorna sztereo hangz&amp;amp;aacute;sa&lt;br /&gt;
se lehet semmi.&lt;br /&gt;
-egy 3.5*-os lemezre 6 r&amp;amp;eacute;gi lemezoldal&lt;br /&gt;
f&amp;amp;eacute;r fel.&lt;br /&gt;
-&amp;amp;aacute;ll&amp;amp;iacute;t&amp;amp;oacute;lag az &amp;amp;ouml;sszes r&amp;amp;eacute;gi program fut&lt;br /&gt;
rajta.&lt;br /&gt;
-a be&amp;amp;eacute;p&amp;amp;iacute;tett usart chip miatt a modeme-&lt;br /&gt;
z&amp;amp;eacute;s 14400bps-es vagy m&amp;amp;eacute;g gyorsabb modem-&lt;br /&gt;
mel is alapban lehets&amp;amp;eacute;ges.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
sz&amp;amp;oacute;val,ez nem pisk&amp;amp;oacute;ta.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                 ()&lt;br /&gt;
                 &amp;amp;amp;'&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ez j&amp;amp;oacute; volt egy kis helykit&amp;amp;ouml;lt&amp;amp;#337;nek...&lt;br /&gt;
na de most t&amp;amp;eacute;rj&amp;amp;uuml;nk vissza eredeti t&amp;amp;eacute;-&lt;br /&gt;
m&amp;amp;aacute;nkhoz:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+**+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
annak is &amp;amp;ouml;r&amp;amp;uuml;l&amp;amp;ouml;k,hogy &amp;amp;uacute;jra gy&amp;amp;aacute;rtni fogj&amp;amp;aacute;k&lt;br /&gt;
az amiga 1200-est &amp;amp;eacute;s 4000-est,mivel&lt;br /&gt;
commodore p&amp;amp;aacute;rti vagyok.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
a commodore pc-k viszont hidegen hagy-&lt;br /&gt;
nak,mert sz&amp;amp;aacute;momra teljesen idegenek.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(azt hallottam,hogy egy 1200-es 97000ft-&lt;br /&gt;
ba ker&amp;amp;uuml;l, igaz ez?!)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ennyit a commodore-r&amp;amp;oacute;l.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                     victory&lt;br /&gt;
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