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		<title>Ymgve at 00:36, 30 June 2007</title>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  here comes what you have been&lt;br /&gt;
  waiting for ???&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  some people do not see the beam in&lt;br /&gt;
  their own eyes, so we were highly&lt;br /&gt;
  thrilled to see a mamba&amp;amp;lt;-magazine&lt;br /&gt;
  review in issue #006 of shock,&lt;br /&gt;
  censor design's diskmagazine.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  loading up the column called&lt;br /&gt;
  'spotlights' (the column's name&lt;br /&gt;
  was already flattering us), we&lt;br /&gt;
  finally got to the review of mamba&amp;amp;lt;&lt;br /&gt;
  issue #23 (the latest issue)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  surprise, surprise, gene (x-dom, now&lt;br /&gt;
  deadline) tried to bless the dear&lt;br /&gt;
  reader with his literary effusion.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  a mamba&amp;amp;lt; review by gene of deadline&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  oh yes, and the wiseacre did find&lt;br /&gt;
  quite a few things to criticize,&lt;br /&gt;
  mainly he pointed out how mamba&amp;amp;lt; lost&lt;br /&gt;
  its objectivity, sides with friends,&lt;br /&gt;
  and that the editor has an 'attitude&lt;br /&gt;
  problem'. (btw. i did not know that)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  to back up his claims he quoted all&lt;br /&gt;
  kind of people, quoted mamba&amp;amp;lt;, and&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  gave lots of examples to make people&lt;br /&gt;
  believe how much this magazine&lt;br /&gt;
  changed during the last months.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  here is a major argument that was&lt;br /&gt;
  used:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  (about 'month in brief', 1st column)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;quot;this section had mistakes, some&lt;br /&gt;
   totally uninteresting crap, and&lt;br /&gt;
   some of the most stupid charts we&lt;br /&gt;
   have ever seen&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  sounds like omg in his best times...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  now,gene backs up his words by giving&lt;br /&gt;
  examples for this statement:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;quot;sorceress never admitted that she&lt;br /&gt;
   had phonesex with bod&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;quot;the voting topic was totally&lt;br /&gt;
   irrelevant&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  we say, sorceress did admit it in a&lt;br /&gt;
  released chatfile; we say, the voting&lt;br /&gt;
  topic was appropriate, many people&lt;br /&gt;
  told us so. &amp;quot;irrelevant&amp;quot; is only&lt;br /&gt;
  shock's opinion, doesn't belong there&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;quot;...the most stupid charts we have&lt;br /&gt;
   ever seen..&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  gene asks about forgotten games in&lt;br /&gt;
  the list of first releases:&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;quot;will you add it in the next issue ?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  genius gene is already able to give&lt;br /&gt;
  us the answer by himself: &amp;quot;nope, ...&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  then we stop and think and ask our-&lt;br /&gt;
  selves what we have done when we did&lt;br /&gt;
  add 'the power, by genesis' and&lt;br /&gt;
  'j.w. compend, by ils' to the list&lt;br /&gt;
  of first-releases, after forgetting&lt;br /&gt;
  those games the month before ???&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  so try again gene :&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;quot;and to give a game from double&lt;br /&gt;
   density the same amount of points&lt;br /&gt;
   like a release from ocean is sheer&lt;br /&gt;
   stupidity... ...diskgames should&lt;br /&gt;
   not be counted&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  okey, nothing wrong with that&lt;br /&gt;
  argument, let us quote the same issue&lt;br /&gt;
  of shock, column 'the us-scene':&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;quot;...terminator 2+ from ocean...&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
  (by tsm)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;quot;...called snake mania +2...&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
  (by double density, by exc)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  (same column, the charts: )&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;quot;              releases&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  3. excalibur ...  5 (incl. snake m.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  4. tsm       ...  4 (incl. term. 2)&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  good work gene, you 'advice' mamba&amp;amp;lt;&lt;br /&gt;
  not to count magazine games, but by&lt;br /&gt;
  the same token, in the same issue&lt;br /&gt;
  shock does it by itself...cool!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  we don't mind, another one:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  (about the news &amp;amp;amp; rumours section)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;quot;gp &amp;amp;amp; victims never were in a co-op&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  genius gene wants to correct us, not&lt;br /&gt;
  knowing that these groups really have&lt;br /&gt;
  been in cooperation, any genesis&lt;br /&gt;
  member can be asked for confirmation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  another one:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;quot;kt left gp months ago&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;quot;the blueboxing system did not only&lt;br /&gt;
   change in germany&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  we did not claim 'kt' left gp just&lt;br /&gt;
  recently, we did not claim the blue-&lt;br /&gt;
  box-system did change only in germany&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  so i honestly do not see the sense in&lt;br /&gt;
  those statements, the more i could&lt;br /&gt;
  ask why didn't shock mention roy as a&lt;br /&gt;
  new member of genesis, as you listed&lt;br /&gt;
  up all other mew members ???&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  again we can only say you should&lt;br /&gt;
  spend the time correcting your own&lt;br /&gt;
  mistakes before looking what other&lt;br /&gt;
  people do...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  gene is going to try another one:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  gene complains about the cure's board&lt;br /&gt;
  being in the mamba&amp;amp;lt; board charts:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  because...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;quot;the cure said that nobody could vote&lt;br /&gt;
   for his board&amp;quot; (quote,gene in shock)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ok, no problem with that, but is it&lt;br /&gt;
  really our fault when there are&lt;br /&gt;
  people who do not obey the cure and&lt;br /&gt;
  vote for his board though ?&lt;br /&gt;
  are we supposed to leave those votes&lt;br /&gt;
  out then ?&lt;br /&gt;
  wouldn't that be called a cheat ?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  answer the questions by yourself,&lt;br /&gt;
  'dearest' reader.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  well, gene would not have taken those&lt;br /&gt;
  votes into consideration, because he&lt;br /&gt;
  says:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;quot;...what that board does in the&lt;br /&gt;
   charts when you knew the cure didn't&lt;br /&gt;
   want it listed&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  is that what shock does ?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  isn't that called cheat ?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  self-explanatory...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  the &amp;quot;biggest mistake&amp;quot; we have done&lt;br /&gt;
  by printing aycee's/tsm article&lt;br /&gt;
  called 'same song, different verse'.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  because &amp;quot;in this section aycee tells&lt;br /&gt;
           us her side of the story&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  yes, we did print that article by&lt;br /&gt;
  aycee, and from our point of view&lt;br /&gt;
  there is nothing wrong by publishing&lt;br /&gt;
  'letters to the editor', lettertypes&lt;br /&gt;
  that can be found in every newspaper,&lt;br /&gt;
  magazine etc today.&lt;br /&gt;
  on the other hand, we find several&lt;br /&gt;
  (biased) comments in shock that do&lt;br /&gt;
  not belong there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  here are only a few:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;quot;the shadow decided to kill his ass-&lt;br /&gt;
   kicking group&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;quot;mystic cavern changed group again,&lt;br /&gt;
   this time it's black reign+genesis,&lt;br /&gt;
   but for how long ?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;quot;untill (now) they haven't proved&lt;br /&gt;
   to be the leading force&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;quot;i'd say this is a good point for&lt;br /&gt;
   cosmos to stop, as they are probably&lt;br /&gt;
   at their top right now&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
                            etcetcetc&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  why not though ?!?!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  another one:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  in our 'did you know' section we&lt;br /&gt;
  reported on a guy from israel called&lt;br /&gt;
  keediz/the force, who was seen on&lt;br /&gt;
  an us-board.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  shock states: &amp;quot;...now, there is no&lt;br /&gt;
  such guy as a keediz/the force&lt;br /&gt;
  calling out at all, and at least not&lt;br /&gt;
  from israel.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  now that is really funny, genius&lt;br /&gt;
  writes &amp;quot;no such guy at all&amp;quot;, and he&lt;br /&gt;
  continues &amp;quot;at least not from israel&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  quite contradictory, first you say&lt;br /&gt;
  'not at all', then you say 'at least&lt;br /&gt;
  not from isreal'...genius doesn't&lt;br /&gt;
  even know about it by himself.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  he goes on: &amp;quot;i wrote that in our&lt;br /&gt;
  'facts an not so factual' section,&lt;br /&gt;
  you read it, and wrote it in mamba&amp;amp;lt;&lt;br /&gt;
  without checking if it was true&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  genius gene claims mamba&amp;amp;lt; is copying&lt;br /&gt;
  news etc from shock.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  we won't even comment on this, except&lt;br /&gt;
  for the little remark that there has&lt;br /&gt;
  been a guy called 'keediz/the force'&lt;br /&gt;
  who was calling the excalibur hq,&lt;br /&gt;
  mysts of avalon, and he did claim he&lt;br /&gt;
  was from israel. everybody on this&lt;br /&gt;
  board did see him, so did we...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  no need to copy from shock's&lt;br /&gt;
  excellent news-section.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  there are more things shock wrote,&lt;br /&gt;
  there are more things mamba&amp;amp;lt; could&lt;br /&gt;
  respond to.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  what you just saw were some examples&lt;br /&gt;
  to make clear how objective shock&lt;br /&gt;
  did report on mamba&amp;amp;lt;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  to sum it all up, genius gene writes&lt;br /&gt;
  the editor of mamba&amp;amp;lt; has an attitude&lt;br /&gt;
  problem, and i still can't see it...&lt;br /&gt;
  maybe other people do have such kind&lt;br /&gt;
  of a problem...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  be sure that you won't find anything&lt;br /&gt;
  else about this matter in any further&lt;br /&gt;
  issue of mamba&amp;amp;lt; since we just wanted&lt;br /&gt;
  to show only one time, as an example,&lt;br /&gt;
  how easy it is to make other people&lt;br /&gt;
  or their work look bad.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  not our business, other magazines or&lt;br /&gt;
  people might continue this.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  and to gene, i want to say thank you,&lt;br /&gt;
  because my doctor told me having a&lt;br /&gt;
  good laugh once in a while is quite&lt;br /&gt;
  healthy&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                      mamba&amp;amp;lt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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