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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  oki...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  in this column you will certainly&lt;br /&gt;
  find&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
     * a report on the 2d competition&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
     * another board review&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
     * the radwar-party announce&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
     * and a lot of new'n'hot video-&lt;br /&gt;
       reviews&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  the double density game-competition!&lt;br /&gt;
  ------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  some month ago 2d called out a&lt;br /&gt;
  competition, anybody calling himself&lt;br /&gt;
  a coder should send his game to&lt;br /&gt;
  double density, it was announced that&lt;br /&gt;
  the 10 best games would earn 50000 dm&lt;br /&gt;
  (ca. $35000) each !&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  a few weeks ago the deadline passed&lt;br /&gt;
  and after examining a few hundred&lt;br /&gt;
  games on the whole, only a few were&lt;br /&gt;
  left to take into consideration.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  however, after having a survey on&lt;br /&gt;
  those games, the organizer, named&lt;br /&gt;
  christian geltenpoth, decided to cut&lt;br /&gt;
  down the estimates with the&lt;br /&gt;
  explanation that no new game-ideas&lt;br /&gt;
  have been developed, different to&lt;br /&gt;
  what the organizer had imagined&lt;br /&gt;
  before.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  the result was that only two games&lt;br /&gt;
  have got the promised amount of&lt;br /&gt;
  50000 dm, the one game by mario van&lt;br /&gt;
  zeist, the other one by joanis stagos&lt;br /&gt;
  for a kind of tetris-game.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  an offer of 20000 dm (ca. $12000)&lt;br /&gt;
  was made to ivo herzeg for his&lt;br /&gt;
  production, most other high-quality&lt;br /&gt;
  games were offered 12000 dm ($7000)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  directly after geltenpoth announced&lt;br /&gt;
  his decision not to spend the&lt;br /&gt;
  promised amount of money on the&lt;br /&gt;
  games, (but maybe on his new software&lt;br /&gt;
  magazine 'playtime' instead ?), he&lt;br /&gt;
  went into holidays to greek in order&lt;br /&gt;
  to let the uncomfortable atmosphere&lt;br /&gt;
  in germany calm down...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  a lot of programmers being offered&lt;br /&gt;
  only little money for their efforts&lt;br /&gt;
  already announced not to accept&lt;br /&gt;
  double density's offer but try to&lt;br /&gt;
  sell their games to other companies&lt;br /&gt;
  instead !&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ...no comment...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  board review&lt;br /&gt;
  ------------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  board   : channel 0&lt;br /&gt;
  group(s): action, empire&lt;br /&gt;
  sysop   : crumbsucker&lt;br /&gt;
  number  : XXXXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  0&lt;br /&gt;
  as usual, here is a little! intro-&lt;br /&gt;
  duction by the sysop himself...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  'i first put up a bbs in 1988...it&lt;br /&gt;
   was called dark side bbs and ran on&lt;br /&gt;
   ivory...like all the boards did at&lt;br /&gt;
   that time. it was just your average&lt;br /&gt;
   lame/local board. soon i switched&lt;br /&gt;
   to c-base and met up with a few guys&lt;br /&gt;
   in falcon...they a hq and my board&lt;br /&gt;
   was it. it remained falcon hq until&lt;br /&gt;
   falcon broke up and culture was&lt;br /&gt;
   formed. late in 1989 fantasy needed&lt;br /&gt;
   a headquarter as they lost warez&lt;br /&gt;
   castle..i was friends with technique&lt;br /&gt;
   and he asked if my board could be&lt;br /&gt;
   the new fantasy hq...well, i guess&lt;br /&gt;
   that was history from that point on.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  i changed the board name to channel 0&lt;br /&gt;
  (because firstly there were too many&lt;br /&gt;
  lame boards with names like dark side&lt;br /&gt;
  dark dimension etcetc...and i think&lt;br /&gt;
  channel 0 is a bit more original).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  after that i had a dispute with&lt;br /&gt;
  culture and channel 0 became fantasy&lt;br /&gt;
  and action hq. it remained this way&lt;br /&gt;
  until december of 1990. at that point&lt;br /&gt;
  technique and i decided to kill off&lt;br /&gt;
  the group (fan)... i had too much&lt;br /&gt;
  other shit to do in my life and&lt;br /&gt;
  decided to take the board down.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  4 months later i was contacted by&lt;br /&gt;
  spitfire who asked me (begged really)&lt;br /&gt;
  to put the board back up. i was also&lt;br /&gt;
  always friends with tristan...seeing&lt;br /&gt;
  that empire needed a hq we talked and&lt;br /&gt;
  well... the rest is history! (again!&lt;br /&gt;
  hehe)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  user's info and such :&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  there are 104 users on the board.&lt;br /&gt;
  about 60% europeans and the remaining&lt;br /&gt;
  40% americanos. only the 'top' elite&lt;br /&gt;
  will be validated, that has always&lt;br /&gt;
  been a rule on channel 0. you must&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  at least be on 3 other major elite-&lt;br /&gt;
  boards to get access. i have never&lt;br /&gt;
  left e-amil to users on other boards&lt;br /&gt;
  telling them to call and apply to my&lt;br /&gt;
  bbs. those who want to be on, will&lt;br /&gt;
  call themselves.&lt;br /&gt;
  about 20% of the users (15-25 users)&lt;br /&gt;
  have n/a on the board.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  the two co-sysops are :&lt;br /&gt;
  spifire/action (who is a very&lt;br /&gt;
  competent c-sysop, contrary to what&lt;br /&gt;
  some people have said), and&lt;br /&gt;
  tristan/empire.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  board info :&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  the board is run on modified&lt;br /&gt;
  c-base 2.0 and i might update it to&lt;br /&gt;
  3.0 (when it is fully de-bugged)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  the transfer area consists of two&lt;br /&gt;
  drives totalling 7273 block.&lt;br /&gt;
  if there is ever a need for more&lt;br /&gt;
  space (like when a six-sider comes&lt;br /&gt;
  out or something) i have another&lt;br /&gt;
  1581 available that can be added on.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  the subs are made up of the following&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  sub-0: general sub for any discussion&lt;br /&gt;
  new wares: self-explanatory&lt;br /&gt;
  story sub: self-explanatory&lt;br /&gt;
  real life: everything but the 64 talk&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  the board gets between 20-30 calls&lt;br /&gt;
  daily (30-40 on a good day!). most&lt;br /&gt;
  people that call post without any&lt;br /&gt;
  problems. anything new that comes out&lt;br /&gt;
  i get within a day at the most...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  future plans :&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  channel 0 will remain empire/action&lt;br /&gt;
  headquarter as long as both groups&lt;br /&gt;
  are alive and trading (ed. aha!)&lt;br /&gt;
  i might add another sub...which only&lt;br /&gt;
  few people would have access to.&lt;br /&gt;
  this will be the occult sub.&lt;br /&gt;
  (basicaly because i am very&lt;br /&gt;
  interested and involved in magic&lt;br /&gt;
  witchcraft, and the other occult&lt;br /&gt;
  stuff...)&lt;br /&gt;
  (ed. that's probably why i always get&lt;br /&gt;
  kicked off the board without seeing&lt;br /&gt;
  any reasonable cause ?!)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  judgement&lt;br /&gt;
  ---------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  users              72%&lt;br /&gt;
  speed              84%&lt;br /&gt;
  sysops' character  87%&lt;br /&gt;
  subboards/posts    61% (hi roy!)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  total..............76%&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  please note that the final judgement&lt;br /&gt;
  is based on the editor's own biased&lt;br /&gt;
  opinion. other users might have got&lt;br /&gt;
  a total different impression on all&lt;br /&gt;
  mentioned points.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  the pleasure is ours to announce&lt;br /&gt;
  the final radwar party vi, again&lt;br /&gt;
  held in a disco on heinsberg/germany&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  date : june 8th&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  place: discothek 'chez renzo'&lt;br /&gt;
         am volkspark&lt;br /&gt;
         5138 heinsberg (oberbruch)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  time : 19.41&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  * skaters will show their tricks&lt;br /&gt;
  * well-known dj serves at the stereo&lt;br /&gt;
  * software companies will show up&lt;br /&gt;
  * and much much more...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  for further informations call the&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
     radwar party line&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
       XXXXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
           (2400 - 19200 bps)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    or write to&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
           XXXXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
           XXXXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
           XXXXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                                   (+)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  again it were excell and deltar who&lt;br /&gt;
  didn't fear any pain only to get&lt;br /&gt;
  your favourite video reviews,&lt;br /&gt;
  hot off the press, (hollywood)&lt;br /&gt;
  relieving you of another difficult&lt;br /&gt;
  decision, that is, which movie to&lt;br /&gt;
  watch...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ...be excited! now !!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                           smack it...&lt;br /&gt;
   - teenage mutant ninja turtles 2 -&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 as you would probably have guessed by&lt;br /&gt;
 now, this is the follow up to the mega&lt;br /&gt;
 selling &amp;quot;ninja turtles&amp;quot;..&lt;br /&gt;
 once again our 4 heroes in a 1/2 shell&lt;br /&gt;
 are back in the sewers of new york,but&lt;br /&gt;
 not for long, as their &amp;quot;home&amp;quot; is&lt;br /&gt;
 closed due to major problems.. another&lt;br /&gt;
 problem, that should have been dead,&lt;br /&gt;
 is the fact the the evil shredder is&lt;br /&gt;
 back in town!! yes, after a quick nose&lt;br /&gt;
 dive from a 20 storages building,being&lt;br /&gt;
 squeezed in a dustbin-van, the master&lt;br /&gt;
 shredder is back! this time the story&lt;br /&gt;
 is different, as a smart professor&lt;br /&gt;
 has discovered the secret about the&lt;br /&gt;
 ooze that transformed the four heros,&lt;br /&gt;
 from innocent little turtles, into the&lt;br /&gt;
 pizza eating ass-kickers from the&lt;br /&gt;
 sewers.. also shredder knows about the&lt;br /&gt;
 secret oozed,and is of course also out&lt;br /&gt;
 to get his hands on it. the shredder&lt;br /&gt;
 manages to kidnapp the professor and&lt;br /&gt;
 creates his own &amp;quot;mutants&amp;quot;, 2 ugly&lt;br /&gt;
 monsters,dumb as a door-mat, but they&lt;br /&gt;
 obey shredder.. look's like our green&lt;br /&gt;
 friends have a 14 foot problem,but i'm&lt;br /&gt;
 sure that even 2 mutant monsters, 400&lt;br /&gt;
 hostile warriors, an unlimited arsenal&lt;br /&gt;
 of weapons and the desire to make&lt;br /&gt;
 turtle soup, is not a real challenge&lt;br /&gt;
 for the lean green turtles.. the real&lt;br /&gt;
 problem is when shredder is turned&lt;br /&gt;
 into a 12 feet tall &amp;quot;super-shredder&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
 after drinking the secret ooze!!&lt;br /&gt;
 is this the end? or will we once again&lt;br /&gt;
 be dragged into the dark cinemas to&lt;br /&gt;
 watch the 3'rd film about the turtles?&lt;br /&gt;
 i would set my money on the 3'rn film&lt;br /&gt;
 in the row of:&lt;br /&gt;
   &amp;quot;the teenage mutant ninja turtles&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                        rating: ****&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 1 star ; not worth the money&lt;br /&gt;
 6 stars; not to be missed!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
        0&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                      hit the plus (+)&lt;br /&gt;
             - once around -&lt;br /&gt;
    richard dreyfuss - holly hunter&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 renata (holly hunter) feels like it's&lt;br /&gt;
 time to get married, but her boyfriend&lt;br /&gt;
 doesnt exactly feel the same way, and&lt;br /&gt;
 dumbs her.. renata decides that it's&lt;br /&gt;
 time for a holyday, to forget and to&lt;br /&gt;
 start a new.. she travels to a small&lt;br /&gt;
 country in the caribien, where she&lt;br /&gt;
 plans to become a timeshare sales-&lt;br /&gt;
 women. it's here she meets the older&lt;br /&gt;
 and wery forward businessman sam sharp&lt;br /&gt;
 (played by richard dreyfuss),it's love&lt;br /&gt;
 at first sight, and renata decided to&lt;br /&gt;
 bring sam back to the family in boston&lt;br /&gt;
                                   (+)&lt;br /&gt;
 renatas family almost goes into shock&lt;br /&gt;
 when they meet the older man. the rest&lt;br /&gt;
 of the family is both fascinated and&lt;br /&gt;
 repulted by the &amp;quot;man of the world&amp;quot;,&lt;br /&gt;
 sam is a man who says and does what he&lt;br /&gt;
 likes, and that is something that is&lt;br /&gt;
 not easy to deal with in the somewhat&lt;br /&gt;
 yuppie family.. dont let all this text&lt;br /&gt;
 about marrige frighten you away from&lt;br /&gt;
 this movie, as it's really funny at&lt;br /&gt;
 places and deserves more than what i&lt;br /&gt;
 just gave it here...&lt;br /&gt;
                           rating: **&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 well, as there wasn't really that many&lt;br /&gt;
 good new films this month, we will&lt;br /&gt;
 continue with the hollywood gossip (+)&lt;br /&gt;
 the follow-up to &amp;quot;terminator&amp;quot;, also&lt;br /&gt;
 stars arnold schwarzenegger, and is&lt;br /&gt;
 called &amp;quot;terminator ii - the judgement&lt;br /&gt;
 day&amp;quot; it's the most expensive film&lt;br /&gt;
 e-v-e-r made in hollywod, the cost is&lt;br /&gt;
 so far 100 million u.s dollars!!!&lt;br /&gt;
 for the same amount you could make&lt;br /&gt;
 5 films in the style of &amp;quot;home alone&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;quot;dances with wolves&amp;quot;.. kinda makes you&lt;br /&gt;
 wonder if it will be able to make just&lt;br /&gt;
 as much money as &amp;quot;home alone&amp;quot;, wich&lt;br /&gt;
 cost 18 million $, but made 268 mill.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 the genre of &amp;quot;batman&amp;quot; is not dead yet,&lt;br /&gt;
 and the follow up to that movie is&lt;br /&gt;
 also in the works.. it's supposed to&lt;br /&gt;
 star eddie murphy or arsinio hall as&lt;br /&gt;
 the boy wonder... a black boy wonder&lt;br /&gt;
 will make us all wonder!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 another cartoon hero that will also&lt;br /&gt;
 go into the movie world, is the guy&lt;br /&gt;
 some of us know as rocket ranger, in&lt;br /&gt;
 the world of movies, his new name will&lt;br /&gt;
 be &amp;quot;richoocket&amp;quot; a guy living in the&lt;br /&gt;
 yeat 1936, finds a rocket pack, put's&lt;br /&gt;
 it on his bag, and a new super hero is&lt;br /&gt;
 born..&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 after only being on the silver-screen&lt;br /&gt;
 for 2 weeks, the film with sylvester&lt;br /&gt;
 stallone is number one.. the film is&lt;br /&gt;
 called &amp;quot;oscar&amp;quot; it's a comedy and is&lt;br /&gt;
 supposed to show sly as a funny man??&lt;br /&gt;
 the top 3 in the usa at the moment;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
     1. oscar (sylvester)&lt;br /&gt;
     2. out for justice (steven segal)&lt;br /&gt;
     3. teenage mutant ninja turtles&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 the 2'nd film is n-o-t about a guy who&lt;br /&gt;
 wanna get back on the old ikari legend&lt;br /&gt;
 just-ice..&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 ok, that's it for this months issue of&lt;br /&gt;
 mamba at the movies, but make sure you&lt;br /&gt;
 also get your next issue, as we will&lt;br /&gt;
 try to get some more gossip, hot news&lt;br /&gt;
 and even more new movies, so that you&lt;br /&gt;
 can decide what you wanna do with your&lt;br /&gt;
 last 5 bucks!  l8r, excell/flex video!&lt;br /&gt;
   deltars movie reviews of may 1991&lt;br /&gt;
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 out for justice - rating - **1/2&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 steven seagal offers his usual martial&lt;br /&gt;
 arts spree in this weak story. can you&lt;br /&gt;
 believe spending 1 hour and 20 minutes&lt;br /&gt;
 (the equivalent of 1 night) looking&lt;br /&gt;
 for the killer of an old neighbourhod&lt;br /&gt;
 chum?? that's it, and all for the sake&lt;br /&gt;
 of making it right...with whom? i'll&lt;br /&gt;
 leave that up to you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 mortal thoughts - rating - ***&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 more on this on the next page    (+)&lt;br /&gt;
 we have demi moore &amp;amp;amp; glenne headly as&lt;br /&gt;
 friends(?) and moores hubby (bruce&lt;br /&gt;
 willis) at the beginning of the film.&lt;br /&gt;
 two remain at the end. an interesting&lt;br /&gt;
 scenario of seeing how good of a pal&lt;br /&gt;
 you really are. worth the time! c it!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 a kiss for dying - rating - ***&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 this is a remake of a 1956 film, and&lt;br /&gt;
 even with age it doesn't improve much.&lt;br /&gt;
 matt dillon plays a very pleasing guy&lt;br /&gt;
 that has some strange thoughts on the&lt;br /&gt;
 opposite sex. just can't help killin'&lt;br /&gt;
 'em dead. sean young portrays twins &amp;amp;amp;&lt;br /&gt;
 dillon loves 'em both...          (+)&lt;br /&gt;
 some quick peeks now of things to come&lt;br /&gt;
 soon to the local theatres:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 robin hood:prince of thieves(kostner)&lt;br /&gt;
 backdraft  (scott glenn, kurt russell)&lt;br /&gt;
 hudson hawk (bruce willis)&lt;br /&gt;
 f/x 2 (bryan brown, brian dennehy)&lt;br /&gt;
 switch (ellen barkin)&lt;br /&gt;
 the fisher king (r. williams/j.bridges&lt;br /&gt;
 oscar (sylvester stallone)&lt;br /&gt;
 zandalee (reinhold, cage, anderson!)&lt;br /&gt;
 stone cold (brian bosworth!)&lt;br /&gt;
 one good cop (michael keaton)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 let me know how you like/dislike the&lt;br /&gt;
 new review format.  deltar/tsm   (+)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ymgve</name></author>	</entry>

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