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		<title>Ymgve at 19:33, 5 July 2007</title>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  different things&lt;br /&gt;
  ----------------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  oh well, this is really an occasion&lt;br /&gt;
  to celebrate (at least for us person-&lt;br /&gt;
  ally!)...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  the first-ever dude from the ex-gdr&lt;br /&gt;
  wrote to us, since mamba&amp;amp;lt; exists.&lt;br /&gt;
  and we have waited 15 long months for&lt;br /&gt;
  a letter from 'overthere' !&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 a big special thanx to you, christian!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  'boss &amp;amp;amp; co' is the name of the first&lt;br /&gt;
  ex-gdr group i've ever heard of.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  the group comes from 'dresden', and&lt;br /&gt;
  also had some news for us, that is&lt;br /&gt;
  an announce of the first copy-party&lt;br /&gt;
  ever in the eastern parts of germany!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  the party will take place on the 16th&lt;br /&gt;
  of february 1991, beginning is&lt;br /&gt;
  10 o'clock am !&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  the party is held in dresden, if you&lt;br /&gt;
  come by train, leave it at dresden&lt;br /&gt;
  main station. now take the tram #9&lt;br /&gt;
  (in front of the main station!)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  and leave the tram at station 'wasa-&lt;br /&gt;
  platz' and ask for the 47th school !&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  bring your compy along with you !&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ok, here are the facts again...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  date: 16.02.91&lt;br /&gt;
  place: 47th school, gostritzer str.19&lt;br /&gt;
         o-8020 dresden - germany&lt;br /&gt;
  time: 10 am to ?? am&lt;br /&gt;
  entrance fee : 2 german mark&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  * food and drinks available at the&lt;br /&gt;
    party place&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  you all should know that whenever you&lt;br /&gt;
  call a board by using at&amp;amp;amp;t, the board&lt;br /&gt;
  number will show up on the at&amp;amp;amp;t bill&lt;br /&gt;
  that the legal at&amp;amp;amp;t-owner receives.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  the i+t headquarter warez castle is&lt;br /&gt;
  besides a few other boards a&lt;br /&gt;
  spotlight for europeans using illegal&lt;br /&gt;
  at&amp;amp;amp;t calling cards.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  now here is a letter which the sysop&lt;br /&gt;
  of the warez castle received from&lt;br /&gt;
  at&amp;amp;amp;t !&lt;br /&gt;
  special thanks to crumbsucker to make&lt;br /&gt;
  this letter available to us (all).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  'dear mr. xxxxx (warez king)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
   we have been unsuccessful in trying&lt;br /&gt;
   to reach you by telephone to discuss&lt;br /&gt;
   internation telephone calls that&lt;br /&gt;
   have been received at your telephone&lt;br /&gt;
   number (XXXXXXXXXXXX) from (XXXXXXX)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
   at&amp;amp;amp;t investigators have determined&lt;br /&gt;
   that these calls were places with an&lt;br /&gt;
   an authorized calling card.&lt;br /&gt;
   acceptance of these calls at your&lt;br /&gt;
   number may result in financial and&lt;br /&gt;
   legal liability on your part.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  this letter serves as a notification&lt;br /&gt;
  that upon its reciept and from that&lt;br /&gt;
  date forward you will be held&lt;br /&gt;
  responsible for charges of this&lt;br /&gt;
  nature.'&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ok, just some additional words...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  warez king got this letter about 2&lt;br /&gt;
  months ago, and since that he didn't&lt;br /&gt;
  hear anything else from at&amp;amp;amp;t.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  apparently warez king won't react on&lt;br /&gt;
  this letter as it's outside of any&lt;br /&gt;
  validity anyway.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ok, here's another of those board-&lt;br /&gt;
  reviews, it might be the last one,&lt;br /&gt;
  we are not sure...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  board  : mystic cavern&lt;br /&gt;
  group  : censor&lt;br /&gt;
  sysop  : sorceress &amp;amp;amp; sorcerer&lt;br /&gt;
  number : XXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  the sysop's are running the board for&lt;br /&gt;
  about 2 years now. it has been the&lt;br /&gt;
  headquarter for extasy, censor and&lt;br /&gt;
  culture. the sysops decided not to&lt;br /&gt;
  stay with extasy for some reason...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  culture just split up, the board is&lt;br /&gt;
  only censor hq now.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  the board is running cbase 2.0, also&lt;br /&gt;
  containing online games like empire..&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  the board has three subboards...&lt;br /&gt;
  general, warez and magazine, in which&lt;br /&gt;
  the lastest group news and other&lt;br /&gt;
  gossip is posted.&lt;br /&gt;
  everyone posts every call, if the&lt;br /&gt;
  callers don't, the sysops remind them&lt;br /&gt;
  only once.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  the transfer-section is based on a&lt;br /&gt;
  12.5 megs hardrive.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  four drives are available (for the&lt;br /&gt;
  normal users), three for new wares,&lt;br /&gt;
  one for oldies/requests.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  the board got about 100 users, half&lt;br /&gt;
  of them europeans. the board gets&lt;br /&gt;
  about 20-25 call per day.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  about 35% of all users got unlimited&lt;br /&gt;
  download-credits.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  about my question why they decided to&lt;br /&gt;
  put up a board...&lt;br /&gt;
  'when i know, i'll let you know...&lt;br /&gt;
   it's in our blood!'&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  and some additional words from the&lt;br /&gt;
  sysops about themselves...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  '...we both used to call a galacticom&lt;br /&gt;
   system, after talking for a while&lt;br /&gt;
   we exchanged pictures and soon after&lt;br /&gt;
   that we met. so we have been&lt;br /&gt;
   together since then and running the&lt;br /&gt;
   board together is cool!!'&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  judgement&lt;br /&gt;
  ---------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  users              78%&lt;br /&gt;
  speed              80%&lt;br /&gt;
  sysop's character  84%&lt;br /&gt;
  subboards/posts    60%&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  total..............76%&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ok, only a few words...&lt;br /&gt;
  the board is really worth to be on,&lt;br /&gt;
  the only thing i dislike is, that&lt;br /&gt;
  everybody is forced to post every&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  call. that explains my low valuation&lt;br /&gt;
  for the subboards, which are actually&lt;br /&gt;
  quite good,but only under compulsion.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  please note that the final judgement&lt;br /&gt;
  is the editor's own biased opinion.&lt;br /&gt;
  other users might have a total&lt;br /&gt;
  different opinion about all mentioned&lt;br /&gt;
  items.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  well, everybody who is calling out&lt;br /&gt;
  knows that problem...the line is&lt;br /&gt;
  busy ! now we've got an interesting&lt;br /&gt;
  letter from a guy in holland how to&lt;br /&gt;
  solve that problem...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  'i was just reading your board review&lt;br /&gt;
  and then i thought of a cool idea.&lt;br /&gt;
  if all usa dudes upload their stuff&lt;br /&gt;
  to a major board in europe (i mean&lt;br /&gt;
  all big groups in usa like nec,dmx,&lt;br /&gt;
  random,tsm etc) if they just upload&lt;br /&gt;
  it on 12 or 13 different phonelines,&lt;br /&gt;
  then every euro-dude can download new&lt;br /&gt;
  stuff on 12/13 empty phonelines (the&lt;br /&gt;
  other 12/13 are busy).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  the same we do in the usa. we upload&lt;br /&gt;
  eurostuff to their major board with&lt;br /&gt;
  also 12/13 phones and they can down-&lt;br /&gt;
  load our eurostuff. so we don't have&lt;br /&gt;
  got the problem with dialing to the&lt;br /&gt;
  usa. and if one dude want to show his&lt;br /&gt;
  cracks on an us-board, then he just&lt;br /&gt;
  dials the number of the euro major&lt;br /&gt;
  board. so i think this can be written&lt;br /&gt;
  in mamba. maybe my idea could be the&lt;br /&gt;
  solution.  '&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  (ed. maybe...)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ok, so far the letter from sensei !&lt;br /&gt;
  thanx, dude, you really had an&lt;br /&gt;
  astonishing idea ! if you ever have&lt;br /&gt;
  such a brilliant idea again, then&lt;br /&gt;
  simply write to us, because we just&lt;br /&gt;
  have to fill our magazine with some-&lt;br /&gt;
  thing !&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
      write to&lt;br /&gt;
                   mamba&amp;amp;lt;&lt;br /&gt;
               XXXXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
               XXXXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
               XXXXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ok, a last word in this sub is&lt;br /&gt;
  dedicaded to omg/antichrist...&lt;br /&gt;
  ...and to any other person who tried/&lt;br /&gt;
  tries to quarrel (hi bandit)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  we just wanted to point out that we&lt;br /&gt;
  don't have to stand for cheap&lt;br /&gt;
  accusations which are based on&lt;br /&gt;
  rumours/lies anyway !&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  this is the reason why we seldom&lt;br /&gt;
  reacted on those offends...we only&lt;br /&gt;
  made a fool of those people by using&lt;br /&gt;
  veiled (more or less) hints, but&lt;br /&gt;
  never by abusing this magazine !!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  if you want to see us giving our&lt;br /&gt;
  opinion on these things in detail&lt;br /&gt;
  then just write a personal letter&lt;br /&gt;
  to the mamba&amp;amp;lt;-box or call/contact any&lt;br /&gt;
  (ex) crazy-member !&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
       mamba&amp;amp;lt; staff/(ex-) crazy staff&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ...but, then don't forget to add&lt;br /&gt;
  some facts to your argumentation...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                                -return&lt;br /&gt;
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