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		<title>Ymgve at 21:22, 29 June 2007</title>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;            different things&lt;br /&gt;
           ------------------&lt;br /&gt;
  yeah !! this is already the 12th&lt;br /&gt;
  issue of our disc-magazine, and we&lt;br /&gt;
  think this anniversary must be&lt;br /&gt;
  celebrated...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  that is the reason why we decided to&lt;br /&gt;
  arrange a little competition (liitle&lt;br /&gt;
  budget, little competition!)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  how to participate ?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  simply answer the following two&lt;br /&gt;
  questions and write it to us on a&lt;br /&gt;
  postcard or letter !!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  1. look at the comic !!!&lt;br /&gt;
     which group of the scene is shown&lt;br /&gt;
     in the comic (the ones with masks)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  2. in which german town the comic&lt;br /&gt;
     takes place ?&lt;br /&gt;
     just think of soccer !&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  write the answers down and send it to&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
             mamba&amp;amp;lt;&lt;br /&gt;
         XXXXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
         XXXXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
         XXXXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
  ps.the deadline for the competition&lt;br /&gt;
      is the 1st of december !!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  we know that german citizens have&lt;br /&gt;
  advantages, sorry !!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  the prizes&lt;br /&gt;
  ----------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    1) 1 lp, cd or mc (your choice)&lt;br /&gt;
       (according to your equipment!)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    2) 1 t-shirt with a cool gotcha-&lt;br /&gt;
       graphic on it&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    3) 1 competition pro joystick&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    consolation prize : a mega-swapper&lt;br /&gt;
    called 'deff' (about 40 contacts)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  in this issue we begin to review&lt;br /&gt;
  some american bbs's !!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  the test comprises about 10-12 boards&lt;br /&gt;
  you will find about 2-3 reviews in&lt;br /&gt;
  each of the next 3 issues !&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  this time we got only one review,&lt;br /&gt;
  because we could not catch other&lt;br /&gt;
  sysops in the short time to get the&lt;br /&gt;
  necessary background informations !&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ...now get a closer view of&lt;br /&gt;
       'the shaolin temple'...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  board : the shaolin temple&lt;br /&gt;
  group : tsm (headquarter)&lt;br /&gt;
  sysop : aycee/tsm&lt;br /&gt;
  number: XXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  the bbs was put up about 2 years ago&lt;br /&gt;
  by the female sysop aycee, who first&lt;br /&gt;
  ran the board for mirage with the&lt;br /&gt;
  name 'castle of radiance' !&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  3 months after the board was put up,&lt;br /&gt;
  aycee joined tsm and renamed the bbs&lt;br /&gt;
  to 'the shaolin temple' !&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  today, the board got about 125 users,&lt;br /&gt;
  who have to handle with ivory-term,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  some of them are calling regular,&lt;br /&gt;
  some only once a while.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  the bbs gets about 15-20 calls every&lt;br /&gt;
  day, but many of the posts are done&lt;br /&gt;
  by the ikari &amp;amp;amp; talent members.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  among the 125 users are about 20%&lt;br /&gt;
  euros, 15% of the users got n/a !&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  the bbs contains 4 subs, for group&lt;br /&gt;
  news, uploads, and bullshit etc.&lt;br /&gt;
  three drives, which contains together&lt;br /&gt;
  9540 blx, are usually filled with&lt;br /&gt;
  0-2 days old wares, but it sometimes&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  happens, that certain wares are later&lt;br /&gt;
  uploaded for some reason.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  judgement&lt;br /&gt;
  ---------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  users               -  63%&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  speed of wares      -  69%&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  sysop's character   -  88%&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  subboards/posts     -  45%&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  -- total --         -  66%&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  please note that this judgement is&lt;br /&gt;
  our own opinion, other users may&lt;br /&gt;
  have a totally different point of&lt;br /&gt;
  view of the bbs and the sysop, but&lt;br /&gt;
  we think it is fair !&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  look out for more bbs-reviews in the&lt;br /&gt;
  next issue(s) !!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
          + for a letter to the editor!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  in the last issue we urote about&lt;br /&gt;
  inc's comeback with their first-&lt;br /&gt;
  release 'where in the time is carmen&lt;br /&gt;
  sandiego'.&lt;br /&gt;
  we also wrote that mirage cracked&lt;br /&gt;
  the game one day earlier, but it&lt;br /&gt;
  didn't get on the elite-boards due&lt;br /&gt;
  to mirage-wares are banned there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ok, some of the informations are&lt;br /&gt;
  wrong, but the truth did come out&lt;br /&gt;
  later.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  but first read a letter we got from&lt;br /&gt;
  the states concerning this matter.&lt;br /&gt;
  read our comment after the letter.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  'hello mamba.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  i really don't expect you to have the&lt;br /&gt;
  balls to print this, but at least i&lt;br /&gt;
  can set you straight...&lt;br /&gt;
  in your mamba 11, you state in the&lt;br /&gt;
  news and rumours section that 'inc'&lt;br /&gt;
  has made a come-back with 'w.i.t.t.i.&lt;br /&gt;
  c.s.' that's bullshit. they did not&lt;br /&gt;
  even release it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  mirage released it first.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  a lamer, trying to impress inc, put&lt;br /&gt;
  it out later with an inc intro on it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  the bogus inc release was got to&lt;br /&gt;
  maybe 3 boards and everyone says it&lt;br /&gt;
  was the mirage crack with their intro&lt;br /&gt;
  removed. inc (a fine group) had&lt;br /&gt;
  nothing to with this and have&lt;br /&gt;
  admitted it in posts.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  the mirage release was on perhaps a&lt;br /&gt;
  hundred boards in 1 day.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  how can mirage be banned from elite&lt;br /&gt;
  boards, when they run about 16 elite&lt;br /&gt;
  boards themselves. in addition to&lt;br /&gt;
  their own boards, their releases are&lt;br /&gt;
  are on all of the other real elite&lt;br /&gt;
  boards in the states.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  their wares are banned on about 3&lt;br /&gt;
  boards who all support nec (who&lt;br /&gt;
  everyone in the states knows is&lt;br /&gt;
  insanely jealous of mirage). matter&lt;br /&gt;
  of fact when mirage beats nec,&lt;br /&gt;
  horizon usually throws someone out&lt;br /&gt;
  of nec as a result! (and a lot of&lt;br /&gt;
  guys are getting thrown out lately!!)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  there are only 3 active cracking&lt;br /&gt;
  groups left in the states now (mirage&lt;br /&gt;
  nec and tsm). they are all fighting&lt;br /&gt;
  hard to get the new wares out. the&lt;br /&gt;
  problem is not an inability to crack&lt;br /&gt;
  them, it is simply a matter of how&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  are you going to crack something if&lt;br /&gt;
  the original never shows up in the&lt;br /&gt;
  states ? all 3 are fast at the crack,&lt;br /&gt;
  so whoever is lucky enough to get the&lt;br /&gt;
  original is going to get the crack&lt;br /&gt;
  out first. in any given week anyone&lt;br /&gt;
  of these 3 groups is going to be no1.&lt;br /&gt;
  to the few boards that claim not to&lt;br /&gt;
  want mirage wares, i guess they do&lt;br /&gt;
  without the crack when mirage is&lt;br /&gt;
  first ? (yeah...right! check the&lt;br /&gt;
  logs on the elite boards and see who&lt;br /&gt;
  is grabbing the mirage releases ).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  last item...if you (mamba) would get&lt;br /&gt;
  your nose out of nec's ass long&lt;br /&gt;
  enough, you might see what's really&lt;br /&gt;
  going on in the states and who is&lt;br /&gt;
  gaining everyone's respect and who is&lt;br /&gt;
  not. before you make any more&lt;br /&gt;
  bullshit statements you might even&lt;br /&gt;
  want to check a couple of boards that&lt;br /&gt;
  are not nec-boards.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  for the record... i am not a member&lt;br /&gt;
  of mirage. just one who appreciates&lt;br /&gt;
  their hard work and good results.&lt;br /&gt;
     mad hatter (imports that work!!)'&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  gosh, what a letter !!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ok, now it is time to clear the&lt;br /&gt;
  confusion...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  first of all mad hatter is right&lt;br /&gt;
  concerning inc's first-release !&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  a canadian guy called rich took the&lt;br /&gt;
  mirage version, recracked it, and put&lt;br /&gt;
  an inc intro in front of the game,&lt;br /&gt;
  because he wants to be in inc !&lt;br /&gt;
  he did this with another ware called&lt;br /&gt;
  hellhole c/t by fairlight.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  then he spread his version on some&lt;br /&gt;
  elite-boards like disk shoppe,&lt;br /&gt;
  warez castle, wild wares, 2nd to none&lt;br /&gt;
  etc. the ware was on more boards&lt;br /&gt;
  later due to some persons spreading&lt;br /&gt;
  it around without knowledge of the&lt;br /&gt;
  recrack.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  then, some days later, after mamba 11&lt;br /&gt;
  was out, some people found a mirage-&lt;br /&gt;
  memberlist (hi aycee) on certain&lt;br /&gt;
  track and sectors of the disc, so the&lt;br /&gt;
  recrack was proven !&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  that is what we stated false in the&lt;br /&gt;
  last issue.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  we further wrote that mirage wares&lt;br /&gt;
  are banned from the elite-boards !&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  it seems we have got a different&lt;br /&gt;
  view of what an elite board actually&lt;br /&gt;
  is. we would say the top ten boards&lt;br /&gt;
  in the charts are elite-boards, we&lt;br /&gt;
  can not find any mirage boards in the&lt;br /&gt;
  list !&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  if you say the top 100 boards are&lt;br /&gt;
  elite-boards,then is this your own&lt;br /&gt;
  point of view, you should not write&lt;br /&gt;
  to us if you have got a different&lt;br /&gt;
  interpretation of certain things than&lt;br /&gt;
  we got !!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  further i want to say that we do not&lt;br /&gt;
  support any group, including our own&lt;br /&gt;
  group.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  you may can imagine that this is&lt;br /&gt;
  nearly impossible, but we do not&lt;br /&gt;
  support any group on purpose.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  if you see/saw any pro-nec sentence&lt;br /&gt;
  in mamba,then write to us again...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  do not take the computer-scene too&lt;br /&gt;
  serious, do not make a fuss about&lt;br /&gt;
  those things...&lt;br /&gt;
  ...anyway, thanks for your letter...&lt;br /&gt;
                                    (+)&lt;br /&gt;
            a little letter:&lt;br /&gt;
           ------------------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  i think it's time to give my comment&lt;br /&gt;
  about omg's character and his beha-&lt;br /&gt;
  vior. i'm freddy/titron, who is wri-&lt;br /&gt;
  ting this letter in the late evening.&lt;br /&gt;
  as i had been in array some time ago&lt;br /&gt;
  i decided once to call omg to find&lt;br /&gt;
  out what type of guy he is and also&lt;br /&gt;
  to vote for sex'n'crime. after i had&lt;br /&gt;
  voted for many cracking groups i felt&lt;br /&gt;
  that omg's voice became more and more&lt;br /&gt;
  nervously. halfway interrupting me,&lt;br /&gt;
  he asked me,why i would give some&lt;br /&gt;
  groups of which he thought they would&lt;br /&gt;
  deserve it hardly so less points.&lt;br /&gt;
  i answered that i had nothing seen&lt;br /&gt;
  from these groups for some time and&lt;br /&gt;
  why he would be angry about my opin-&lt;br /&gt;
  ion, we are living in a democratic&lt;br /&gt;
  state were my thoughts. and now guess&lt;br /&gt;
  what: he asked me why i would give&lt;br /&gt;
  genesis project not enough points as&lt;br /&gt;
  he would expect from me?! i started&lt;br /&gt;
  to wonder why he just empazised on&lt;br /&gt;
  genesis project's points? i thought&lt;br /&gt;
  -has he something to do with genesis&lt;br /&gt;
  as i heard rumours before. but isn't&lt;br /&gt;
  he in amok were my second thoughts.&lt;br /&gt;
  i was all confused. well,and omg be-&lt;br /&gt;
  came more and more louder arguing me&lt;br /&gt;
  to the ground till i gave in,that i&lt;br /&gt;
  decided to agree and say you're right&lt;br /&gt;
  and tried quickly to finish this&lt;br /&gt;
  phone call. later i asked some&lt;br /&gt;
  friends of mine if this guy, omg al-&lt;br /&gt;
  ways behaves like this,getting angry,&lt;br /&gt;
  loud voice and acting like a little&lt;br /&gt;
  bit unfair argumentation. i got to&lt;br /&gt;
  hear and noticed that this guy cannot&lt;br /&gt;
  have much 'real' friends, as he&lt;br /&gt;
  mostly talks to people as if they&lt;br /&gt;
  were dirt. that's for sure not the&lt;br /&gt;
  right way to gain appreciation, but&lt;br /&gt;
  i also noticed what a clever nerd&lt;br /&gt;
  this guy is. examples like the con-&lt;br /&gt;
  flict with duck dunn/lotus or his&lt;br /&gt;
  quarrel with excell/ikari &amp;amp;amp; talent,&lt;br /&gt;
  in which omg always indicates himself&lt;br /&gt;
  as a boy with great understanding,&lt;br /&gt;
  positive criticism and he is always&lt;br /&gt;
  the innocent victim while others&lt;br /&gt;
  offend him by 'his popularity'! he&lt;br /&gt;
  is always innocent while the others&lt;br /&gt;
  offending him or criticize his words&lt;br /&gt;
  are just surrounding assholes! and&lt;br /&gt;
  by the way, dear reader, would you&lt;br /&gt;
  defeat yourself by writing 20 text-&lt;br /&gt;
  pages and more when you are really&lt;br /&gt;
  innocent?!? i see no reason for that.&lt;br /&gt;
  so,i don't like omg, because he&lt;br /&gt;
  handles everybody like the last shit,&lt;br /&gt;
  but he has a great friendship with&lt;br /&gt;
  genesis or at least acts in genesis&lt;br /&gt;
  with another handle and i would de-&lt;br /&gt;
  clare the &amp;quot;sex'n'crime&amp;quot; as genesis&lt;br /&gt;
  projects propaganda-magazine.&lt;br /&gt;
  ok,that's enough,i'm sure many other&lt;br /&gt;
  64-freaks agree with me and i just&lt;br /&gt;
  wanted to let omg know that it is&lt;br /&gt;
  time for a change.&lt;br /&gt;
  i'm reading every issue of your sex&lt;br /&gt;
  'n'crime, but god bless you, just&lt;br /&gt;
  once you write any bad thing about&lt;br /&gt;
  me or my group. you can handle any-&lt;br /&gt;
  body else like dirt, but you are at&lt;br /&gt;
  the wrong address by me!&lt;br /&gt;
  i will never write anything again,but&lt;br /&gt;
  i'm also not a lousy fuck interrested&lt;br /&gt;
  in your answer! so spare your words&lt;br /&gt;
  and don't try one of yer damn letter-&lt;br /&gt;
  writers! that's ment as you read it!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ...morgen wieder arbeiten...  nacht!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  so far freddy's letter !&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  by the way, some days after freddy&lt;br /&gt;
  wrote this letter, thieves visited&lt;br /&gt;
  his house and stole his computer,&lt;br /&gt;
  drive and much more...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  bad luck, alex ! don't cry, just&lt;br /&gt;
  bear it and buy a new nackenrolle !!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  if you want to support mamba&amp;amp;lt; then&lt;br /&gt;
  send your articles to    mamba&amp;amp;lt;&lt;br /&gt;
                       XXXXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
  or call...our vmb    XXXXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
  XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX   XXXXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
   then dial 9021&lt;br /&gt;
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