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		<title>Ymgve at 21:16, 29 June 2007</title>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;  reports&lt;br /&gt;
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  1. a statement by danny of the force&lt;br /&gt;
     israel to the iraq-golf-conflict.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  first as every body knows sadam ,the&lt;br /&gt;
  iraqi leader is more than just a cra-&lt;br /&gt;
  zy man, thanks to european countries&lt;br /&gt;
  like france from whom iraq got some&lt;br /&gt;
  very high-tec weapons and learned a-&lt;br /&gt;
  lot about bombs (gas,etc.) of course&lt;br /&gt;
  western countries did it for their&lt;br /&gt;
  own profit. not like other states the&lt;br /&gt;
  iraq activates most power and nearly&lt;br /&gt;
  all sources to gain a military force&lt;br /&gt;
  and to be prepared in military sense&lt;br /&gt;
  as much as they can (4.biggest mili-&lt;br /&gt;
  tary force in the world), so for you&lt;br /&gt;
  living in iraq you would miss a com-&lt;br /&gt;
  fortable life because there are lacks&lt;br /&gt;
  of many needs and usual daily items&lt;br /&gt;
  you all have in your home country and&lt;br /&gt;
  that's because the iraq gouvernment&lt;br /&gt;
  invest nearly all the money on their&lt;br /&gt;
  army, supplied with expensive weapons&lt;br /&gt;
  and doesn't care about their social&lt;br /&gt;
  and culture-standart.&lt;br /&gt;
  now, that sadam hosain got the wea-&lt;br /&gt;
  pons the western countries supplied&lt;br /&gt;
  him with and took a hero-position for&lt;br /&gt;
  the people living in iraq because he&lt;br /&gt;
  pretended that the iraq deserves more&lt;br /&gt;
  respect and as a matter of fact he&lt;br /&gt;
  wanted to show his military power&lt;br /&gt;
  when he overran kuwait and has cut&lt;br /&gt;
  the oil-transport for most western&lt;br /&gt;
  worlds, because kuwait has lot of&lt;br /&gt;
  oil. what are this man's future plans&lt;br /&gt;
  now and what was that action good&lt;br /&gt;
  for? first to solve the iraq's inner&lt;br /&gt;
  problems which they have a lot of.&lt;br /&gt;
  then of course he accepts no inter-&lt;br /&gt;
  ruption of his plans by any country&lt;br /&gt;
  since he feels iraq to be the most&lt;br /&gt;
  powerful arabic country and no arabic&lt;br /&gt;
  country would stand iraq anyway.&lt;br /&gt;
  (the usa from his point of view&lt;br /&gt;
  should not play the role of a world-&lt;br /&gt;
  police and interfere his activities)&lt;br /&gt;
  now israel is on the side of the&lt;br /&gt;
  western countries, but sadam wouldn't&lt;br /&gt;
  dare to fight against israel, because&lt;br /&gt;
  israel has nuclear weapons and the&lt;br /&gt;
  danger of an atomic war everybody&lt;br /&gt;
  knows even the shitbrain sadam hosain&lt;br /&gt;
  so a war between these two countries&lt;br /&gt;
  would be a waste of time and many&lt;br /&gt;
  lifes, anyway it's not israel's prob-&lt;br /&gt;
  lem what's going on with iraq, kuwait&lt;br /&gt;
  or whatever. but since iraq got a&lt;br /&gt;
  real problem for the whole world ex-&lt;br /&gt;
  cept jordan and sadam had never&lt;br /&gt;
  thought that it would get that seri-&lt;br /&gt;
  ous for him and that even the usa and&lt;br /&gt;
  the ussr united are against him he&lt;br /&gt;
  don't what to do, took prisoners and&lt;br /&gt;
  really got pissed off!&lt;br /&gt;
                                   (+)&lt;br /&gt;
  meanwhile sadam is trying to get is-&lt;br /&gt;
  rael into this war against him and&lt;br /&gt;
  expects other countries to help him&lt;br /&gt;
  (sacred war) to get stronger but he&lt;br /&gt;
  failed (till now) coz israel is much&lt;br /&gt;
  smarter than him and don't react to&lt;br /&gt;
  what he sais, so to those of you who&lt;br /&gt;
  ask me when i will be dead or wether&lt;br /&gt;
  i joined the army to fight against&lt;br /&gt;
  sadam can expect a smart smile. be&lt;br /&gt;
  sure, everything down here is doin'&lt;br /&gt;
  well and fine since ever and would&lt;br /&gt;
  there actually break out war between&lt;br /&gt;
  the usa and iraq i don't think iraq&lt;br /&gt;
  will attack israel because then they&lt;br /&gt;
  would have to fight against two&lt;br /&gt;
  powerful countries.&lt;br /&gt;
  anyway, if you ask me, i would say&lt;br /&gt;
  that the usa would lose a war (in the&lt;br /&gt;
  desert) against iraq, like you have&lt;br /&gt;
  seen in history before and sadam&lt;br /&gt;
  would be the hero of all arabian&lt;br /&gt;
  countries as the man who kicked the&lt;br /&gt;
  us's ass from the arabs holy land,&lt;br /&gt;
  but why has there to be war???&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  sorry for my fast and bad english...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                   sincerly:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                       danny/the force&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  the venlo/blerick meeting report&lt;br /&gt;
  --------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
  (18-09-1990)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  hi there...&lt;br /&gt;
  this time i'm (silco/paradize) took&lt;br /&gt;
  over aj's job on writing the venlo-&lt;br /&gt;
  report because he couldn't come and&lt;br /&gt;
  had to play an international soccer-&lt;br /&gt;
  match.&lt;br /&gt;
  i left home at 12.00 and arrived at&lt;br /&gt;
  venlo 13.00 pm.&lt;br /&gt;
  i was late and it was raining cats&lt;br /&gt;
  and dogs and cows... mmmh all people&lt;br /&gt;
  there were very wet after their walk&lt;br /&gt;
  from the station to the meeting place&lt;br /&gt;
  i didn't find the place directly and&lt;br /&gt;
  asked some people for the way to the&lt;br /&gt;
  'staay'. shit, i had to pay 5.- gul-&lt;br /&gt;
  den to the ugly lady behind the desk&lt;br /&gt;
  at the entrance, but i enjoyed the&lt;br /&gt;
  meeting really at it's beginning.&lt;br /&gt;
  the sad thing was that i recognized&lt;br /&gt;
  that about 100 lamers were around.&lt;br /&gt;
  i prefered to stick to the cooler&lt;br /&gt;
  guys. here's a short list: trc, tcom,&lt;br /&gt;
  genesis, amok, manowar, crazy, style,&lt;br /&gt;
  ruthless, tga, sense, culture, ua,&lt;br /&gt;
  mega ind., satanic angels and the few&lt;br /&gt;
  rest...&lt;br /&gt;
  i gave my discs around to collect sum&lt;br /&gt;
  new stuff while i was searching for&lt;br /&gt;
  two members of my group. but in that&lt;br /&gt;
  mass of lamers i couldn't find 'em.&lt;br /&gt;
  after asking some people wether they&lt;br /&gt;
  have seen them i finally found them&lt;br /&gt;
  in a corner talking to some culture&lt;br /&gt;
  dudes. they forced me to fill out a&lt;br /&gt;
  voting-sheet for the shock-paper-mag.&lt;br /&gt;
  after that i decided to get my swop-&lt;br /&gt;
  ping discs back. guess what, i lost&lt;br /&gt;
  5 discs, fuck those lamers! my mood&lt;br /&gt;
  went down and i finally came to the&lt;br /&gt;
  conclusion that the meeting wasn't&lt;br /&gt;
  that cool i had expected on it.i hope&lt;br /&gt;
  the september-meeting will be cooler&lt;br /&gt;
  and i also hope the lamers get fewer.&lt;br /&gt;
  15.00 pm, most people went out, the&lt;br /&gt;
  room got empty. i decided to leave&lt;br /&gt;
  too at 15.15 pm. whatever i missed my&lt;br /&gt;
  train to nymegen and had to wait half&lt;br /&gt;
  an hour on the next train, shit!&lt;br /&gt;
  and luckily i met three girls in that&lt;br /&gt;
  train. but after aproaching them i&lt;br /&gt;
  found out that they were ugly, urgh.&lt;br /&gt;
  even my girlfriend looks better.&lt;br /&gt;
  i recognise that my box sais 23 disx&lt;br /&gt;
  with new stuff. pretty good, but&lt;br /&gt;
  checking it out at home i counted 11&lt;br /&gt;
  discs i already had times before!&lt;br /&gt;
  even stuff that was spread by me days&lt;br /&gt;
  before venlo went around and i col-&lt;br /&gt;
  lected it. bad luck, the only new&lt;br /&gt;
  things that went around there were&lt;br /&gt;
  some (cool) magazines. ok, this were&lt;br /&gt;
  my first impressions of the venlo-&lt;br /&gt;
  meeting. you can decide yourself if&lt;br /&gt;
  u wanna go there and meet me... silco&lt;br /&gt;
  the radwar-party-report&lt;br /&gt;
  -----------------------&lt;br /&gt;
  ...by hannes sommer&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  so, you see, we guys in cosmos de -&lt;br /&gt;
  signs were also represented by both&lt;br /&gt;
  mc's (hannes and karli) at this'giga-&lt;br /&gt;
  meeting(???)' in north-west-germany.&lt;br /&gt;
  well, on thursday evening we arrived&lt;br /&gt;
  in duesseldorf (after 12 hours by&lt;br /&gt;
  train) and after a silent night we&lt;br /&gt;
  drove on friday into direction 'erke-&lt;br /&gt;
  lenz'.&lt;br /&gt;
  we entered the 'haus stuerz' and had&lt;br /&gt;
  a talk to mws (markus wiederstein) of&lt;br /&gt;
  digital marketing and the folks in&lt;br /&gt;
  genesis (snacky and a funky italian&lt;br /&gt;
  boy... more later).&lt;br /&gt;
  the weather was really bad (raining!)&lt;br /&gt;
  and so our party-feeling didn't came&lt;br /&gt;
  up really (like the weather...).&lt;br /&gt;
  later, let's say at 5.00 pm another&lt;br /&gt;
  mix-group entered: lotus,abary,pulsar&lt;br /&gt;
  and some more...&lt;br /&gt;
  after we'd discussed lots of impor-&lt;br /&gt;
  tant points (weather and so on) the&lt;br /&gt;
  room was rather full (also lamiga-&lt;br /&gt;
  freaks).&lt;br /&gt;
  ...and while the rain stopped a mo-&lt;br /&gt;
  memnt to frustrate us we searched for&lt;br /&gt;
  a nice camping place for our tent.&lt;br /&gt;
  'camping place' was an area between&lt;br /&gt;
  street and cow-shit!&lt;br /&gt;
                                   (+)&lt;br /&gt;
  but we had lots of fun by talking to&lt;br /&gt;
  the radwar-cows. (do accept both mea-&lt;br /&gt;
  ning of the sentence).&lt;br /&gt;
  the first night was rather cold and&lt;br /&gt;
  rainy but our tent was one of the&lt;br /&gt;
  better ones and so we didn't feel any&lt;br /&gt;
  wetness inside our own 'home' (not&lt;br /&gt;
  like some of the others!).&lt;br /&gt;
  the second day began like the first&lt;br /&gt;
  had ended: raining!  but we never&lt;br /&gt;
  lost hope and so we managed to fight&lt;br /&gt;
  in a soccer-tournament.&lt;br /&gt;
  following soccer-teams took part:&lt;br /&gt;
  radwar... radwar members, mws, kata-&lt;br /&gt;
            kis coder from amiga sect.&lt;br /&gt;
  cheesburger... radius and some other&lt;br /&gt;
            64'er freaks...&lt;br /&gt;
  solingen-munich-united... abary (de-&lt;br /&gt;
             fense), lotus (middle-&lt;br /&gt;
             field), pulsar (offense)&lt;br /&gt;
  harms (blue angel 69-coder), both of&lt;br /&gt;
  us from cosmos designs and two other&lt;br /&gt;
  cool guys (goaly was another guy from&lt;br /&gt;
  lotus who seemed to have drunken too&lt;br /&gt;
  much the night before... (ed.:ha,ha,&lt;br /&gt;
  ha, hi axiom, alter alki!!!)!&lt;br /&gt;
  solingen-munich-united won this soc-&lt;br /&gt;
  cer competition, but they were lucky&lt;br /&gt;
  by defeating us (right hermann?!).&lt;br /&gt;
  because the result after the regular&lt;br /&gt;
  play-time was 3:3 and their talented&lt;br /&gt;
  'pulsar-kicker' let our goal-keeper&lt;br /&gt;
  look like a frightened hen when the&lt;br /&gt;
  ball was headed behind the goal-line&lt;br /&gt;
  by him..., so we finally lost 3:4!&lt;br /&gt;
  but anyway solingen-munich-united&lt;br /&gt;
  proved to be the best and it was&lt;br /&gt;
  really good indeed to see the big-&lt;br /&gt;
  headed radwar-dudes (winner of the&lt;br /&gt;
  last year) be beaten...&lt;br /&gt;
  well, after this we (stad/magnetix,a&lt;br /&gt;
  guy from byte brothers, mc.lord and&lt;br /&gt;
  me...) drove to a local swimming-bath&lt;br /&gt;
  and we met again the guys of genesis&lt;br /&gt;
  and my brother (mc.lord) showed&lt;br /&gt;
  snacky how real diving looks loke&lt;br /&gt;
  (right snacky?!).&lt;br /&gt;
  in this bath we then started to brush&lt;br /&gt;
  our teeth and so the bath-keeper&lt;br /&gt;
  showed up and asked why we don't call&lt;br /&gt;
  him for getting shaved and kicked our&lt;br /&gt;
  asses out (real laim-brain, this man)&lt;br /&gt;
  later we had a main-talking in our&lt;br /&gt;
  headquarter-place, the inn 'haus&lt;br /&gt;
  stuerz'.&lt;br /&gt;
  oliver stiller, stefan harms,bwb,&lt;br /&gt;
  manfred trenz,hermann again and lotus&lt;br /&gt;
  were some of the guys you could have&lt;br /&gt;
  a nice chat with...&lt;br /&gt;
  not forget to mention the shy boy&lt;br /&gt;
  from asm-magazine (peter braun). sci,&lt;br /&gt;
  snacky and i told him what the 64 is&lt;br /&gt;
  really about and how this machine&lt;br /&gt;
  should be handled in their magazine.&lt;br /&gt;
  well, there was absolutely nothing in&lt;br /&gt;
  sight concerning the 'feuerzangen-&lt;br /&gt;
  bowle', case was i think that the&lt;br /&gt;
  guys from action-team had drunken the&lt;br /&gt;
  whole alcohol the night before.&lt;br /&gt;
  all in all this day was quite cool&lt;br /&gt;
  and it was a little bit of success&lt;br /&gt;
  for genesis and us, because we'll&lt;br /&gt;
  release our games with the improved&lt;br /&gt;
  'timex'-protection from snacky (and&lt;br /&gt;
  also att will do his best!).&lt;br /&gt;
  next day was sunday, this was the day&lt;br /&gt;
  to pack our tents and sleeping bags&lt;br /&gt;
  and drive back home. snacky told me&lt;br /&gt;
  that he and his two friends (sci and&lt;br /&gt;
  this italian i mentioned at the be-&lt;br /&gt;
  ginning) could sleep the night to&lt;br /&gt;
  monday at mws's home. mws told me&lt;br /&gt;
  that there he could show me a preview&lt;br /&gt;
  of 'hawkeye ii'....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  but later mws was sitting in a car&lt;br /&gt;
  driven by a radwar-boy and told us&lt;br /&gt;
  that if we wanna get to him we should&lt;br /&gt;
  call a taxi...and then he disappeared&lt;br /&gt;
  'no joke!' we all thought because he&lt;br /&gt;
  is livin' 25 kilometres far away from&lt;br /&gt;
  the party-place!&lt;br /&gt;
  'what now?!' -no way to get there&lt;br /&gt;
  with all our bags...&lt;br /&gt;
  but then dieter mueckter of digital&lt;br /&gt;
  marketing showed up, organized a car&lt;br /&gt;
  and drove us to mws's home, really&lt;br /&gt;
  nice act, dieter! thanx.&lt;br /&gt;
  in front of mws's home-door we no-&lt;br /&gt;
  ticed that no one opened. really ner-&lt;br /&gt;
  vously we let the door-bell ring -&lt;br /&gt;
  but nothing!&lt;br /&gt;
  the car in which mws uses to be&lt;br /&gt;
  driven (mws can't drive his own car&lt;br /&gt;
  anyway...) was at the parking place&lt;br /&gt;
  near the home...&lt;br /&gt;
  so we came to the conclusion that mws&lt;br /&gt;
  was at home, but didn't open!&lt;br /&gt;
  the relation was that we also heard&lt;br /&gt;
  one or two 'dirty' four letter-words&lt;br /&gt;
  from dieter mueckter about mws.&lt;br /&gt;
  'stay in and die!' we thought and&lt;br /&gt;
  left diz place again after 20 minutes&lt;br /&gt;
  and dieter and his friend managed to&lt;br /&gt;
  find a place, their ex-rooms for pro-&lt;br /&gt;
  gram-developement in digital marke-&lt;br /&gt;
  ting.&lt;br /&gt;
  let's go for a pizza the 2nd time!'&lt;br /&gt;
  was our decision and it was a really&lt;br /&gt;
  nice dismissal...&lt;br /&gt;
  all in all let me say that i don't&lt;br /&gt;
  regret to have spent the money for&lt;br /&gt;
  this party, bcoz the fact to meet old&lt;br /&gt;
  friends and to meet new pals is it&lt;br /&gt;
  all worth indeed!&lt;br /&gt;
  sure only half of the guys who were&lt;br /&gt;
  included in the list of the party-&lt;br /&gt;
  invitation came (weather?). but i had&lt;br /&gt;
  my fun and others too i think...&lt;br /&gt;
  only mws let me feel disappointed a&lt;br /&gt;
  lot! and if you are in touch with&lt;br /&gt;
  digital marketing, never thrust this&lt;br /&gt;
  sucker!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                    plus it once more!&lt;br /&gt;
  last party hellos reach:&lt;br /&gt;
  stefan (escimo), hermann (abary uni-&lt;br /&gt;
  ted), snacky (siiigi!), sci and denis&lt;br /&gt;
  (mops and rindviech!), stad/mnx (hey&lt;br /&gt;
  ruediger), byte brothers (soll ich&lt;br /&gt;
  dir die schuhe zubinden?), action&lt;br /&gt;
  (always drunken?!), bwb,mdg,radwar&lt;br /&gt;
  (haar-fetischisten!), lotus(always&lt;br /&gt;
  smiling), pulsar, pc-magnum (!) and&lt;br /&gt;
  as usual to the forgotten ones...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
         hannes sommer/cosmos designs&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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