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		<title>Ymgve at 23:54, 28 June 2007</title>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;  mixed up!  just look and judge!&lt;br /&gt;
  -------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
  a real cool, but fuckin' long letter&lt;br /&gt;
  reached us! the author of this horror&lt;br /&gt;
  is  high tide, assisted by sloth from&lt;br /&gt;
  toronto, canada.&lt;br /&gt;
  they give you 'rookie' europeans you&lt;br /&gt;
  are waiting for so long!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
              carding!!!&lt;br /&gt;
              ----------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  although everything we pirates do,&lt;br /&gt;
  this is one that you can get in some&lt;br /&gt;
  major shit over. well even though it&lt;br /&gt;
  is a serious crime, it is really&lt;br /&gt;
  cool.&lt;br /&gt;
  this is the process in which you find&lt;br /&gt;
  the card number and use it to pur-&lt;br /&gt;
  chase things. in order to card, there&lt;br /&gt;
  are a few things that you must have&lt;br /&gt;
  or it will not work. you will need to&lt;br /&gt;
  have:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  -1- the card number&lt;br /&gt;
  -2- the expiry date - ex.04/90&lt;br /&gt;
  -3- the type of card - (mastercard,&lt;br /&gt;
      visa,american express)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  those are the main things that you&lt;br /&gt;
  will need. having the name of the&lt;br /&gt;
  owner is very useful, especially if&lt;br /&gt;
  you want to make it look more authen-&lt;br /&gt;
  tic.&lt;br /&gt;
  now you are probably asking yourself&lt;br /&gt;
  how to get card numbers. well, there&lt;br /&gt;
  are three simple ways:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  1- find a department store (sears,&lt;br /&gt;
     k-mart) and go through their big&lt;br /&gt;
     dumpster out back. just jump right&lt;br /&gt;
     in and search for those carbons.&lt;br /&gt;
     hey, it's a dirty job but someone&lt;br /&gt;
     is gotta do it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  2- find a friend that works for a&lt;br /&gt;
     department store and tell him to&lt;br /&gt;
     save numbers for you. either make&lt;br /&gt;
     sure he or she is a pirater, or&lt;br /&gt;
     don't even bother telling them if&lt;br /&gt;
     they aren't.&lt;br /&gt;
     they might want to get even later&lt;br /&gt;
     on for something stupid.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  3- or bullshit people. go to your&lt;br /&gt;
     pay phone and call some one's&lt;br /&gt;
     home where you know their names&lt;br /&gt;
     and what kind of card they have.&lt;br /&gt;
     example:&lt;br /&gt;
     you: &amp;quot;hello mrs.(whatever). this&lt;br /&gt;
     is edward peters from citibank&lt;br /&gt;
     (or wherever) security office.&lt;br /&gt;
     sorry but we have accidently&lt;br /&gt;
     erased all your data. you wouldn't&lt;br /&gt;
     mind telling us, would you?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
     her: &amp;quot;well, can i call you back?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
     you: &amp;quot;sure. the number is&lt;br /&gt;
     xxx-xxxx&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
  click...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ring....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  you: &amp;quot;hello. citibank security office&lt;br /&gt;
  edward peters speaking.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
  her: &amp;quot;oh, i thought you were a fraud.&lt;br /&gt;
  ok, here's my data...&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
  you: &amp;quot;thank you. we will try to re-&lt;br /&gt;
  store your card as soon as possible&lt;br /&gt;
  in the meantime please refrain from&lt;br /&gt;
  using your card. thank you and have&lt;br /&gt;
  a nice day&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  click...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    you have to order everything you&lt;br /&gt;
  want by mail. you do everything from&lt;br /&gt;
  a phone ordering service. when you&lt;br /&gt;
  call make sure that you are at a pay&lt;br /&gt;
  phone. don't do it at your house or&lt;br /&gt;
  anywhere where it can come back to&lt;br /&gt;
  you. when you order the merchandise,&lt;br /&gt;
  once again, don't send it to anywhere&lt;br /&gt;
  that i can come back to you like your&lt;br /&gt;
  home, work, etc. find a vacant house&lt;br /&gt;
  or building or anywhere else that u&lt;br /&gt;
  can send it to. also don't send it to&lt;br /&gt;
  a p.o.box that you have, just as&lt;br /&gt;
  dangerous. when you do order it and&lt;br /&gt;
  you think it's around the time that&lt;br /&gt;
  you will be receiving it, check the&lt;br /&gt;
  mailbox frequently.&lt;br /&gt;
  but do it late at night. i mean, hows&lt;br /&gt;
  it going to look when you take a&lt;br /&gt;
  package from a vacant house?&lt;br /&gt;
  most bills are sent at the end of the&lt;br /&gt;
  month or at the beginning, so try to&lt;br /&gt;
  time it to where the bill won't come&lt;br /&gt;
  to the person until a couple of days&lt;br /&gt;
  after you have received the package.&lt;br /&gt;
  ok, heres how to figure it. i have&lt;br /&gt;
  found out that the bills are sent out&lt;br /&gt;
  up around the 26-30th of the month,&lt;br /&gt;
  so they will actually receive the&lt;br /&gt;
  bill around the 31-4th. have it sent&lt;br /&gt;
  right after you think the bill has&lt;br /&gt;
  been sent. find what you want, but&lt;br /&gt;
  try to order it from the place that&lt;br /&gt;
  guarantees the fastest delivery.&lt;br /&gt;
  when you order the item, make sure&lt;br /&gt;
  they have it in stock and don't have&lt;br /&gt;
  to get the item in first! order the&lt;br /&gt;
  highest class of delivery but not&lt;br /&gt;
  cod or next day service. that's cut-&lt;br /&gt;
  ting it too close. it should take&lt;br /&gt;
  around 2-4 weeks before you get it&lt;br /&gt;
  and if you timed it right , then it&lt;br /&gt;
  should get there right before the&lt;br /&gt;
  person gets the bill. you need to&lt;br /&gt;
  have it in your possession before the&lt;br /&gt;
  bill gets to the person because if&lt;br /&gt;
  they complain, they can keep it from&lt;br /&gt;
  being sent, or watch who actually&lt;br /&gt;
  gets it even while it's going through&lt;br /&gt;
  the mail process. don't order more&lt;br /&gt;
  than a couple of things or over-&lt;br /&gt;
  charge the card, they will follow up&lt;br /&gt;
  on it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    to actually order the item you will&lt;br /&gt;
  call up the place you will be order-&lt;br /&gt;
  ing from and when the operator&lt;br /&gt;
  answers let her know what you need to&lt;br /&gt;
  as far as what you are purchasing,&lt;br /&gt;
  etc. when she asks how you will be&lt;br /&gt;
  paying just tell her &amp;quot;charge&amp;quot; and&lt;br /&gt;
  the type of card like master, visa,&lt;br /&gt;
  etc. then tell them your name, if you&lt;br /&gt;
  don't know the name of the actual&lt;br /&gt;
  owner of the card, make up a false&lt;br /&gt;
  name that has no relation to your&lt;br /&gt;
  name, not the same first, last middle&lt;br /&gt;
  what ever, nothing relating to your&lt;br /&gt;
  real name. then continue answering&lt;br /&gt;
  all the operators questions,address&lt;br /&gt;
  (not your own,remember!),state,area&lt;br /&gt;
  code,etc. they will ask for your&lt;br /&gt;
  phone number. make one up, not your&lt;br /&gt;
  own. if something happens to go wrong&lt;br /&gt;
  as far as delivery or if you are who&lt;br /&gt;
  you say, then your screwed, unless&lt;br /&gt;
  of course, hehehe, the number is al-&lt;br /&gt;
  ways busy. find the busiest number&lt;br /&gt;
  there is and leave them that. try the&lt;br /&gt;
  busiest bbs in your area. when they&lt;br /&gt;
  ask for the card number and expi-&lt;br /&gt;
  ration, just tell them and do what&lt;br /&gt;
  all else you need. you don't need the&lt;br /&gt;
  expiration number unless they are on-&lt;br /&gt;
  line with a credit union.&lt;br /&gt;
  then you have to take your best shot.&lt;br /&gt;
  wish them a good day and hope you get&lt;br /&gt;
  it. just keep cool and calm.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
      ok, here's how to check if the&lt;br /&gt;
  card is good and how much money can&lt;br /&gt;
  be charged on the card...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  1- dial  XXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  2- it will ask for the type of the&lt;br /&gt;
     card. you must put in 10 for&lt;br /&gt;
     master card, 20 for visa and 30&lt;br /&gt;
     for american express&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  3- next it will ask for the identifi-&lt;br /&gt;
     cation. you will need to enter&lt;br /&gt;
     1067&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  4- after all that you will have to&lt;br /&gt;
     enter the merchant number, which&lt;br /&gt;
     you will either need to put in&lt;br /&gt;
     24 or 52. one of them should work&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  5- you will then have to enter (when&lt;br /&gt;
     prompted) the card number itself&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  6- next, the expiration date of the&lt;br /&gt;
     card. it doesn't matter what the&lt;br /&gt;
     date is just as long as it is&lt;br /&gt;
     after today's date&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  7- last but not least the amount you&lt;br /&gt;
     want to try to get on the card&lt;br /&gt;
  the procedeure for this is enter&lt;br /&gt;
  dollars, astricks, then cents&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  (example:)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  100 * 30 = one hundred dollars and&lt;br /&gt;
             thirty cents.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    one thing i do need to mention,&lt;br /&gt;
  after you type in everything you must&lt;br /&gt;
  press pound (numbersign). like when&lt;br /&gt;
  it asks you for the type of card, if&lt;br /&gt;
  you had a master card you would put:&lt;br /&gt;
  10(numbersign). when it asked for&lt;br /&gt;
  identification you would enter :&lt;br /&gt;
  1067(numbersign). if it says invalid,&lt;br /&gt;
  that either means that the card is&lt;br /&gt;
  no good or you can't amount. if you&lt;br /&gt;
  get down to 1 dollar and it still&lt;br /&gt;
  doesn't work, hehehe, you can probab-&lt;br /&gt;
  ly guess that card is no good.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    you might not be ordering just mer-&lt;br /&gt;
  chandise you might be ordering&lt;br /&gt;
  accounts and things like that and&lt;br /&gt;
  if you are, fine, but you have to re-&lt;br /&gt;
  member, the accounts do not stay good&lt;br /&gt;
  for very long, the owner of the card&lt;br /&gt;
  gets the bill, complains and it is&lt;br /&gt;
  no longer any good. and when you card&lt;br /&gt;
  and account, nine out of ten times,&lt;br /&gt;
  they won't kill the account, they&lt;br /&gt;
  will trace it in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ok, that's it... enjoy your merchan-&lt;br /&gt;
  dise. and if you need more help with&lt;br /&gt;
  anything to do with carding, phone&lt;br /&gt;
  my board or write me at my p.o.box...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  modem:     reactor one&lt;br /&gt;
             XXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
             1200 (temp)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  mail:      high@tide&lt;br /&gt;
             XXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
             XXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
             XXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
             XXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
             XXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
             XXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  enjoy shopping guys...later...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  special -small- thanx to:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                      bloody malice&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                      high@tide #-1990&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  puhh... gotcha is down!!!&lt;br /&gt;
  but i would please you to send us&lt;br /&gt;
  the report about the canadian-scene,&lt;br /&gt;
  maybe you could shorten it a little&lt;br /&gt;
  bit,....     ufff...&lt;br /&gt;
  anyway, thank you derrick...&lt;br /&gt;
  i'm ko-jack...&lt;br /&gt;
  let's go on with your favorite type-&lt;br /&gt;
  slave!!!...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  the hip-hop-charts from our private&lt;br /&gt;
  deejay: mc mate...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  1. poor righteous teachers&lt;br /&gt;
     'holy intellect' (profile),lp&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  2. above the law&lt;br /&gt;
     livin' the hustlers (ruthless),lp&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  3. x-clan&lt;br /&gt;
     funky lesson (4th broadway),lp&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  4. public enemy&lt;br /&gt;
     911 is a joke (def jam), 12&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
  5. stefasonic&lt;br /&gt;
     a.f.r.i.c.a. (green label),12&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  6. mr lee&lt;br /&gt;
     get busy (bm6),lp&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  7. dick&lt;br /&gt;
     on a mission (low spirit) 12&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  8. deskee&lt;br /&gt;
     dance,dance,dance (black out),12&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  9. mellow man ace&lt;br /&gt;
     welcome to my groove (capitol),12&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 10. chill rob g&lt;br /&gt;
     powerjam (wild pitch),12&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
  the public enemy interview has&lt;br /&gt;
  arrived at the mamba address, but&lt;br /&gt;
  has to be translated, as it is in&lt;br /&gt;
  german and too hard to translate in&lt;br /&gt;
  a hurry...&lt;br /&gt;
  if you are a fan of this group, make&lt;br /&gt;
  sure you get the next mamba.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  contact mc mate&lt;br /&gt;
  ...one of the main editors of the&lt;br /&gt;
  new papermag 'b!a!d!' (black arts and&lt;br /&gt;
  dance) and order it at:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
      XXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
      XXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
      XXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
      XXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
  to get more info or in da case you&lt;br /&gt;
  wanna say something besides computing&lt;br /&gt;
  write to:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
            mamba staff!&lt;br /&gt;
            XXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
            XXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
            XXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  just be flexible and think of some&lt;br /&gt;
  themes to be discussed, we are happy&lt;br /&gt;
  about any sending that reaches our&lt;br /&gt;
  address...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  later, press 'return'   +++&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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