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		<title>Ymgve at 23:49, 28 June 2007</title>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;            different things&lt;br /&gt;
            ----------------&lt;br /&gt;
 yep reader! at the beginning i wanna&lt;br /&gt;
 correct some things, which were&lt;br /&gt;
 printed in several mags. let's beginn&lt;br /&gt;
 with our mag called 'mamba':&lt;br /&gt;
 omg wrote in his sex'n'crime that we&lt;br /&gt;
 will have big problems by producing&lt;br /&gt;
 'mamba', because the swiss members&lt;br /&gt;
 left. i can only laugh about this&lt;br /&gt;
 stupid statement, because mamba always&lt;br /&gt;
 was mainly produced (that means coded&lt;br /&gt;
 and printed) by the german members.&lt;br /&gt;
 the only things the swiss members were&lt;br /&gt;
 responsible for were the charts and&lt;br /&gt;
 the interviews.&lt;br /&gt;
                             press plus&lt;br /&gt;
 all (!) the other articles and the&lt;br /&gt;
 comic was and will be done by the&lt;br /&gt;
 german crazy members. and as everyone&lt;br /&gt;
 can see, we are still able to produce&lt;br /&gt;
 mamba with the usual quality. by that&lt;br /&gt;
 way, omg said that stingray will work&lt;br /&gt;
 for sex'n'crime now... i just can say:&lt;br /&gt;
 'buuuuullllshit maaaaaaan!', because&lt;br /&gt;
 we asked stingray and he told us, that&lt;br /&gt;
 this is not true. another thing is,&lt;br /&gt;
 that omg wrote that 'pat of crazy'&lt;br /&gt;
 joined fbi-crew. hmmm, we never heard&lt;br /&gt;
 anything of this person and he never&lt;br /&gt;
 was in crazy. strange eh???&lt;br /&gt;
 yet another thing was, that omg wrote,&lt;br /&gt;
 that 'lotus'was in cooperation with...&lt;br /&gt;
                             press plus&lt;br /&gt;
 dynamix. once again i just say&lt;br /&gt;
 'bullshit!!!', because crazy is the&lt;br /&gt;
 only group lotus is/was in cooperation&lt;br /&gt;
 with.at the end let me send a message&lt;br /&gt;
 to omg: hey oliver! i think we used to&lt;br /&gt;
 be good friends some time ago, but it&lt;br /&gt;
 seems as you don't like crazy very&lt;br /&gt;
 much nowadays. why? did we fool ya or&lt;br /&gt;
 something like that? maybe we can get&lt;br /&gt;
 in touch again and my impression is&lt;br /&gt;
 wrong. i hope to hear from you. and&lt;br /&gt;
 stop writing these strange things&lt;br /&gt;
 about us. o.k.?&lt;br /&gt;
                       frank / crazy&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 now something decidated to the authors&lt;br /&gt;
 of 'cocooc': hey, you guys wrote, that&lt;br /&gt;
 'mamba' was given to amok. who told&lt;br /&gt;
 you such a shit (maybe 'bildzeitung')?&lt;br /&gt;
 we don't want to attack you, but this&lt;br /&gt;
 'joke' really was a little bit strange&lt;br /&gt;
 and we wanna tell you, that 'mamba'&lt;br /&gt;
 was crazy and will forever be crazy.&lt;br /&gt;
 if crazy dies, mamba will probably die&lt;br /&gt;
 too. keep this in your mind guys.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                        frank / crazy&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 scene press / action&lt;br /&gt;
 in the last two issues mamba and crazy&lt;br /&gt;
 got slagged down. you have read the&lt;br /&gt;
 story in mamba issue 5 already.&lt;br /&gt;
 but the most funny thing was we are&lt;br /&gt;
 getting afraid of 'scene press'!!??&lt;br /&gt;
 i can't figure out what was ment by&lt;br /&gt;
 this... so, dear spitfire, tell us&lt;br /&gt;
 what on earth can make a group afraid&lt;br /&gt;
 of your magazine? ok, you improved&lt;br /&gt;
 much, the title-picture got nice, but&lt;br /&gt;
 that's about it! the other graphics&lt;br /&gt;
 are bullshit.did you try out yourself?&lt;br /&gt;
 anyway, we think you cannot compare&lt;br /&gt;
 magazines. in other businesses, mags&lt;br /&gt;
 aren't ranked in charts, so why should&lt;br /&gt;
 we get afraid of anything even if we&lt;br /&gt;
 loose standart. our task is to inform&lt;br /&gt;
 the scene and not as you like to say&lt;br /&gt;
 to slag on it!!! critizism is always&lt;br /&gt;
 to use most fairly but not untrue!!!&lt;br /&gt;
 so you have to prove what you say.&lt;br /&gt;
 for example you slagged on crazy by&lt;br /&gt;
 saying, lotus supplies crazy and after&lt;br /&gt;
 the end of the cooperation crazy will&lt;br /&gt;
 die soon,(hahahahaha!) funny, as we&lt;br /&gt;
 did all the cracks till now and lotus&lt;br /&gt;
 supplied the coop with 2 originals and&lt;br /&gt;
 one crack.&lt;br /&gt;
 you wrote lotus was in cooperation&lt;br /&gt;
 with a total unknown group,(ulk,ulk)&lt;br /&gt;
 where do you hear such a shit???&lt;br /&gt;
 (look coococ), crazy+lotus never with&lt;br /&gt;
 someone other...&lt;br /&gt;
 last example and most funny again:&lt;br /&gt;
 your slogan, 'action,germany's no.1',&lt;br /&gt;
 fool, everybody else, except you.&lt;br /&gt;
 we have seen action-crax, the worst&lt;br /&gt;
 thing in germany ever spread!!!!!!!!&lt;br /&gt;
 try quality, coz you have none!!!&lt;br /&gt;
 quantity can't last without quality.&lt;br /&gt;
 nothing more to say...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
               the whole crazy crew !&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                                  (+)&lt;br /&gt;
  did you know...&lt;br /&gt;
  ---------------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ...that magic man of crazy 'leaves'&lt;br /&gt;
     the scene in a period of about 2&lt;br /&gt;
     we0ks regulearly and comes back&lt;br /&gt;
     after a few hours or a day???&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ...that the swiss axiom (ex bb) is&lt;br /&gt;
     back in abstract?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ...that nemesis coded 2 weeks on a&lt;br /&gt;
     new game (similar to the one be-&lt;br /&gt;
     fore) and gained again about 7000&lt;br /&gt;
     german marks for it??&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  did you know...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ...that psycho of censor designs only&lt;br /&gt;
     cracks at the weekends, because&lt;br /&gt;
     he joined the army some time ago?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ...that mr. cursor writes his pro-&lt;br /&gt;
     tections sometimes on a special-&lt;br /&gt;
     built computer from insert coin?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ...that stingray (ex crazy) is still&lt;br /&gt;
     calling the us-boards daily al-&lt;br /&gt;
     though he promised to leave the&lt;br /&gt;
     scene.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ...that i+t don't come to venlo april&lt;br /&gt;
     but promised several times???&lt;br /&gt;
  did you know...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ...that genesis project has three of&lt;br /&gt;
     america's elite boards:&lt;br /&gt;
     disc shoppe   nec crazy gp&lt;br /&gt;
     warez castle  gp crazy&lt;br /&gt;
     wild warez    exodus gp (newest)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ...that the first lotus guy calles&lt;br /&gt;
     oversea? watch out for steve/lotus&lt;br /&gt;
     on the boards...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ...that you can't figure out who is&lt;br /&gt;
     the real legend in germany as&lt;br /&gt;
     there are to much groups you could&lt;br /&gt;
     count at: section 8,yeti,bb,elite,&lt;br /&gt;
     dynamic duo,radwar,shining 8...&lt;br /&gt;
  did you know...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ...that we in crazy can offer you&lt;br /&gt;
     real hot interviews from the&lt;br /&gt;
     music-scene as we have connections&lt;br /&gt;
     to network press,lowspirit recor-&lt;br /&gt;
     dings,emi,cbs etc because we know&lt;br /&gt;
     a deejay who is very keen on it?&lt;br /&gt;
     watch out for our next issues...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ...that weasel of crazy wears some&lt;br /&gt;
     commodore-sneekers? (strange,eh).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ...that thomas ackermann of amok has&lt;br /&gt;
     never drawn on c64 but is always&lt;br /&gt;
     in the charts of sex'n'crime???&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  did you know...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ...that pudwerx of atc has a private&lt;br /&gt;
  secret board where only the elite is&lt;br /&gt;
  present on? the name is 'the forum'.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ...that the programmer of target,&lt;br /&gt;
  michael wandel got no money for his&lt;br /&gt;
  game from the software company&lt;br /&gt;
  graunitz. and graunitz sold the game&lt;br /&gt;
  to a very cheap price after the whole&lt;br /&gt;
  trouble with spitfire's crack.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ...that atg is coding a game with&lt;br /&gt;
  very nice graphix like cybernoid and&lt;br /&gt;
  we think, after seeing a preview&lt;br /&gt;
  that it will beat cybernoid 1 &amp;amp;amp; 2...&lt;br /&gt;
  did you know...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ...already that the legendary&lt;br /&gt;
  freiherr von gravenreuth probably&lt;br /&gt;
  should have introduced a special&lt;br /&gt;
  software-police, stuffed with modems&lt;br /&gt;
  and some different computers, trying&lt;br /&gt;
  to catch some more people in future&lt;br /&gt;
  after they gained some more know-&lt;br /&gt;
  ledge about the scene...&lt;br /&gt;
  we heard that from some freax, but&lt;br /&gt;
  would like to know if this rumour is&lt;br /&gt;
  true.&lt;br /&gt;
  perhaps you know something about it,&lt;br /&gt;
  so you could write to the mamba-&lt;br /&gt;
  address.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  did you know...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ...that derbyshire ram is only one&lt;br /&gt;
  person and already 51 years old,&lt;br /&gt;
  married and has two children???&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ...that goblin lives in france and&lt;br /&gt;
  not in london and does his cracks in&lt;br /&gt;
  a hotel-room???&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ...that karate kid of dominators is&lt;br /&gt;
  called to be the number one video-&lt;br /&gt;
  swapper of the scene???&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ...that the german tv-company wdr has&lt;br /&gt;
  called out for a demo-competition in&lt;br /&gt;
  the tv-show highscore? good prices!&lt;br /&gt;
  did you know...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ...that hannes sommer of cosmos de-&lt;br /&gt;
     signs has learned to code on ami-&lt;br /&gt;
     ga in three weeks better than a&lt;br /&gt;
     quite well coder who stood longer&lt;br /&gt;
     in the amiga-scene for some years?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ...that magic man of crazy was called&lt;br /&gt;
     to be the best coder on the plus 4&lt;br /&gt;
     and changed to c64 one year ago,&lt;br /&gt;
     to prove one of the best again.&lt;br /&gt;
     wait for our demo: 'that's design'&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ...that everything has an end, only&lt;br /&gt;
     the sausage got two???!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  the credits for this issue...&lt;br /&gt;
  -----------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
  are going to:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  editors: action jackson / trc&lt;br /&gt;
           gotcha         / crazy&lt;br /&gt;
           frank          / crazy&lt;br /&gt;
           tycoon         / crazy&lt;br /&gt;
           mc mate&lt;br /&gt;
           deff           / crazy&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  music:   reyn ovehand   / scoop&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  comic:   # don martin&lt;br /&gt;
           converted by gotcha&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                                   (+)&lt;br /&gt;
  coding:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  intro by magicman      / crazy&lt;br /&gt;
  mamba main by eusebius / crazy&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  announces-slaves:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  frank                  / crazy&lt;br /&gt;
  gotcha                 / crazy&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  if you wanna be mentioned here, you&lt;br /&gt;
  just have to send us reports, which&lt;br /&gt;
  have a quite acceptable length from&lt;br /&gt;
  any party you are at or you give...&lt;br /&gt;
  please send readable announces!!!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  once again the mamba-adress and the&lt;br /&gt;
  chart-voting rules:----------------&lt;br /&gt;
  -------------------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  vote-rules:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  best cracking groups, give points&lt;br /&gt;
  from 0 to 10 points (10 should be&lt;br /&gt;
  your favorite).&lt;br /&gt;
  best demo groups, same as crackers.&lt;br /&gt;
  best graphicans, top 5&lt;br /&gt;
  best musicians,  top 5&lt;br /&gt;
  best coders,     top 5&lt;br /&gt;
  best crackers,   top 5&lt;br /&gt;
  best demos of the month, as much you&lt;br /&gt;
  get to know...&lt;br /&gt;
  send news, reports, alcohol, too.&lt;br /&gt;
  write to:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  XXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
  XXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
  XXXXXXXXXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  mamba staff...&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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