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		<title>Ymgve at 14:50, 21 June 2007</title>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;reply to &amp;quot;antic saga&amp;quot;              tchad&lt;br /&gt;
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 i was very surprised when i first layed&lt;br /&gt;
    my eyes on the little article in&lt;br /&gt;
reformation issue 9 called &amp;quot;antic saga&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
   especially when the author himself&lt;br /&gt;
        (depeh/antic productions)&lt;br /&gt;
   kept claiming that friendship rules&lt;br /&gt;
   and all his aggressions were gone.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  i couldn't interprete this article in&lt;br /&gt;
any other way than an attack against jam&lt;br /&gt;
  and our friends. the shit talk about&lt;br /&gt;
 jam being a bunch of farmers is just a&lt;br /&gt;
     proof of depeh's prejudices and&lt;br /&gt;
  ignorance (it must be hard to live up&lt;br /&gt;
 to those big city ideals when you live&lt;br /&gt;
   in skövde). yes, we do live in the&lt;br /&gt;
  countryside but none of us (as far as&lt;br /&gt;
   i know) is a farmer and even if we&lt;br /&gt;
  were, we shouldn't be ashamed of it.&lt;br /&gt;
 why rag on us again when you claim that&lt;br /&gt;
      you have dropped it? is that&lt;br /&gt;
               friendship?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 now to the real story;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
       it was autumn 1991 and jam&lt;br /&gt;
    decided to have a small party in&lt;br /&gt;
 lundsbrunn. an amiga group called trash&lt;br /&gt;
 80 fixed the amiga people and we called&lt;br /&gt;
 around and posted on the swedish boards&lt;br /&gt;
  about our party. antic and some other&lt;br /&gt;
   groups showed up on the c64 and we&lt;br /&gt;
   were really happy to have such cool&lt;br /&gt;
  guys visiting us. we even gave them a&lt;br /&gt;
  private room. at the last day of this&lt;br /&gt;
  party when everyone was packing down&lt;br /&gt;
     their equipment, some jam guys&lt;br /&gt;
 discovered that some of their disks, an&lt;br /&gt;
 original geos and an action replay were&lt;br /&gt;
    stolen. we were sad about it but&lt;br /&gt;
 there was nothing to do about it as we&lt;br /&gt;
   didn't know who stole it. some days&lt;br /&gt;
    later we called around to hear if&lt;br /&gt;
  someone got our stuff by mistake.. we&lt;br /&gt;
 got ragged down on some boards when we&lt;br /&gt;
    tried to find the truth. suddenly&lt;br /&gt;
  creeper who was in flash at that time&lt;br /&gt;
wrote that he had an ar mk iii, geos and&lt;br /&gt;
  some loosy disks for sale.. we didn't&lt;br /&gt;
  tell anyone that it was an ar mk iii&lt;br /&gt;
          that had been stolen.&lt;br /&gt;
   it had to be him. maybe he did it,&lt;br /&gt;
  maybe not.. but it's pretty stupid of&lt;br /&gt;
him to write that he stole it,even if he&lt;br /&gt;
                did not.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
       some more time passed an we&lt;br /&gt;
   got more ragged down on the swedish&lt;br /&gt;
    boards.. some of the most active&lt;br /&gt;
   aggressors were creeper, jordan and&lt;br /&gt;
  savage. it became january 1992 and we&lt;br /&gt;
   released our first mega demo called&lt;br /&gt;
    'unlimited limits' where we wrote&lt;br /&gt;
fuckings to these guys in the demo note.&lt;br /&gt;
now they got really angry and dragged in&lt;br /&gt;
 some more people by telling lies about&lt;br /&gt;
   us to them. it went on with strange&lt;br /&gt;
  and lame phonecalls where they wanted&lt;br /&gt;
 us to apologize  for writing fuckings.&lt;br /&gt;
   they terrorized our board dreamline&lt;br /&gt;
 several times and logged in under other&lt;br /&gt;
   peoples handle. we wrote an apology&lt;br /&gt;
 note to savage as he seemed to be quite&lt;br /&gt;
    reasonable and a nice guy when we&lt;br /&gt;
  talked to him over the phone, but not&lt;br /&gt;
 to the others as they kept slagging on&lt;br /&gt;
  us. antic members wrote shit about us&lt;br /&gt;
 in demos, and in some magazines and so&lt;br /&gt;
  on but we ignored it as we got pretty&lt;br /&gt;
   tired of them. we stopped to defend&lt;br /&gt;
  ourselves and it all slowly ended up&lt;br /&gt;
              in nothing...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
   now, three years has passed and the&lt;br /&gt;
  wounds between the groups was almost&lt;br /&gt;
  healed.. but then depeh strikes again&lt;br /&gt;
 by calling us kids, farmers and so on.&lt;br /&gt;
   depeh, of course you could tell the&lt;br /&gt;
 scene about that we had a war once upon&lt;br /&gt;
   a time but there was absolutely no&lt;br /&gt;
 reason for slagging on us now! we don't&lt;br /&gt;
  want a war - neither do you guys, so&lt;br /&gt;
   why don't we just forget about the&lt;br /&gt;
  whole thing? or we will have it ended&lt;br /&gt;
             in our own way.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
     so, how about it depeh? you are&lt;br /&gt;
  personally responsible for this late&lt;br /&gt;
attack. you are about to decide, friend-&lt;br /&gt;
              ship or not.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
      ps. we don't judge people for&lt;br /&gt;
      their home-town's population.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
      pps. and therefore you should&lt;br /&gt;
           be lucky&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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      yours: tchad/jam with friends&lt;br /&gt;
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 hey, you've got to hide your love away!&lt;br /&gt;
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