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<p></p> <table class='diff diff-contentalign-left'> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <tr valign='top'> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">←Older revision</td> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">Revision as of 22:18, 17 January 2011</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;sl=de&amp;tl=en&amp;u=http://c64mags.untergrund.net/wiki/index.php%3Ftitle%3DDT_89_19&amp;prev=_t&#160; english translation]</del></div></td><td colspan="2">&#160;</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">&lt;pre&gt;</del></div></td><td colspan="2">&#160;</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">- EINE VAGE IDEE - DAS DT-PC-DISKMAG!</del></div></td><td colspan="2">&#160;</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">______________________ DT-PC-DISKMAG! 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<p></p> <table class='diff diff-contentalign-left'> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <tr valign='top'> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">←Older revision</td> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">Revision as of 17:34, 29 December 2009</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2">&#160;</td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;sl=de&amp;tl=en&amp;u=http://c64mags.untergrund.net/wiki/index.php%3Ftitle%3DDT_89_19&amp;prev=_t&#160; english translation]</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>&lt;pre&gt;</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>&lt;pre&gt;</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>- EINE VAGE IDEE - DAS DT-PC-DISKMAG!</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>- EINE VAGE IDEE - DAS DT-PC-DISKMAG!</div></td></tr> </table>

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<p></p> <p><b>New page</b></p><div>&lt;pre&gt;<br /> - EINE VAGE IDEE - DAS DT-PC-DISKMAG!<br /> ______________________ DT-PC-DISKMAG! __<br /> <br /> Ein DT-PC-Diskmag. Nein, nicht so, wie<br /> ihr es jetzt vielleicht denkt.<br /> <br /> Ob C64- oder PC-Mag - alle sind etwa<br /> gleich gestrickt. Ein paar Grafiken und<br /> viel Text.<br /> <br /> Ich stelle mir die Sache ganz anders<br /> vor. Statt Text soll es Sprache sein.<br /> Also gesprochener Text.<br /> <br /> Man m&amp;uuml;sste dann nur viel mit Grafiken<br /> arbeiten.<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> Ganz einfach gesagt: Stellt euch das so<br /> vor wie Fernsehen. Die Grafiken laufen<br /> wie eine Diashow ab und im Hintergrund<br /> l&amp;auml;uft der Sound (Sprache). Eine reine<br /> Diashow nur mit Sprache w&amp;auml;re nat&amp;uuml;rlich<br /> zu banal.<br /> <br /> Man m&amp;uuml;sste die Sache irgendwie koppeln,<br /> vielseitiger gestalten. Mal Diashow mit<br /> Hintergrundsprache, mal nur Text mit<br /> Sound, zus&amp;auml;tzlich sollte der C64-Emula-<br /> tor mit eingebunden sein und und...<br /> <br /> <br /> Also sehr vielseitig muss die Sache<br /> sein.<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> Ich glaube, es gibt Freewareprogramme,<br /> die eine Diashow mit Sound und &amp;Uuml;bergang-<br /> effekten bringen. Evtl. k&amp;ouml;nnte man so<br /> ein Programm einbinden.<br /> <br /> Klar, klingt alles irgendwie verr&amp;uuml;ckt.<br /> Ich habe auch noch keinen blassen Schim-<br /> mer, wie man das umsetzen kann.<br /> <br /> Es ist im Augenblick nur eine ganz vage<br /> Vorstellung. Wenn man so ein Mag bringen<br /> k&amp;ouml;nnte, sprengt das alles, was es bisher<br /> gibt.<br /> <br /> Will man so ein Mag verwirklichen, geht<br /> das nur im Team.<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> Als Programmierer bin ich zwar 'ne Null,<br /> doch f&amp;uuml;r gewisse Zwecke reicht's. Au&amp;szlig;er-<br /> dem verwende ich die Freeprogrammier-<br /> sprache Profan.<br /> <br /> Leider kann man damit nur BMPs anzeigen.<br /> Schade, dann k&amp;ouml;nnte man GIF-Animationen<br /> einbinden.<br /> <br /> <br /> Apropos GIF-Animation: Da f&amp;auml;llt mir mein<br /> Sprite ein. Ich habe ein Programm, wel-<br /> ches GIF-Animationen in Einzelbilder<br /> zerlegt. Da Profan ja nur BMPs anzeigen<br /> kann, k&amp;ouml;nnte man diese Einzelbilder auch<br /> wieder als Animation anzeigen.<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> Eines habe ich gelernt: INI-Dateien neh-<br /> men viel Arbeit ab. Man kann darin be-<br /> stimmte Abl&amp;auml;ufe/Funktionen einstellen,<br /> ohne dass man das Programm neu coden<br /> muss.<br /> <br /> Beispiel:<br /> <br /> Mein Sprite kommt von links und bleibt<br /> mittig stehen. Eine GIF- (als BMP) Ani-<br /> mation w&amp;auml;re nur mittig. Dann m&amp;uuml;sste in<br /> etwa in der INI stehen: SPRITE=0 oder<br /> SPRITE=1.<br /> <br /> Im Programm gibt's dann 2 Routinen. Bei<br /> 0 werden die Programmzeilen aufgerufen,<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> wo das Sprite von links kommt. Bei 1<br /> wird nur die Mitte fokussiert.<br /> <br /> Eine INI kann man sich in etwa so vor-<br /> stellen wie eine SEQ-Datei beim C64. Die<br /> Dateien werden eingelesen und verwertet<br /> oder angezeigt.<br /> <br /> Ein Beispiel ist das DT-Intro. Da kann<br /> man z.B. einstellen, welche Art von<br /> Sound abgespielt werden soll: MP3, WAV<br /> oder MID.<br /> <br /> Warum erkl&amp;auml;re ich das alles? Obwohl kein<br /> Programmierer, kann ich doch schon etwas<br /> bewirken.<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> Ich glaube, dass f&amp;uuml;r ein 'Fernseh-Mag'<br /> keine gro&amp;szlig;en Programmierkenntnisse n&amp;ouml;tig<br /> sind. Wenn z.B. die Installroutine der<br /> 'Kultpack' bei dir funktioniert, ist das<br /> ein Beweis, dass man andere Programme<br /> fernsteuern kann.<br /> <br /> Das k&amp;ouml;nnte man dann z.B. auch mit einem<br /> DIA-Show-Programm. Vorausgesetzt, das<br /> Programm reagiert auf Tastendr&amp;uuml;cke.<br /> <br /> WIE VERWIRKLICHT MAN SO EIN PROJEKT?<br /> <br /> Zuerst w&amp;uuml;rde ich so ein Dia-Show-Pro-<br /> gramm testen, welches in der Lage ist,<br /> auch Sound im Hintergrund zu spielen.<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> Hier kommt der erste Knackpunkt.<br /> <br /> - Wie spielt die Diashow ab?<br /> - Startet zuerst ein Men&amp;uuml;?<br /> - Erstellt das Programm eine direkte<br /> Diashow?<br /> - Kann man diese mit Tastendruck<br /> manipulieren/abbrechen?<br /> <br /> Wenn ja, kann man mit einem<br /> Hintergrundprogramm die Sache evtl.<br /> manipulieren.<br /> <br /> <br /> Das w&amp;uuml;rde dann so &amp;auml;hnlich ablaufen wie<br /> bei der 'Kultpack'.<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> Wenn man z.B. das Digital Talk-Men&amp;uuml; be-<br /> endet, befindet man sich wieder im C64-<br /> Spiele-Men&amp;uuml;.<br /> <br /> Wenn man das beendet, ist man wieder im<br /> Anfangs-Startmen&amp;uuml;.<br /> <br /> K&amp;ouml;nnt ihr euch das im Ansatz vorstellen,<br /> wie ich das meine?<br /> <br /> <br /> Viele Gr&amp;uuml;&amp;szlig;e<br /> <br /> Klaus<br /> <br /> _<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;</div>

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