http://c64mags.untergrund.net/wiki/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=DT_84_84 DT 84 84 - Revision history 2026-06-17T12:07:01Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.19.0 http://c64mags.untergrund.net/wiki/index.php?title=DT_84_84&diff=6020&oldid=prev Nyquist at 23:35, 17 January 2011 2011-01-17T23:35:02Z <p></p> <table class='diff diff-contentalign-left'> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <tr valign='top'> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">←Older revision</td> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">Revision as of 23:35, 17 January 2011</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;sl=de&amp;tl=en&amp;u=http://c64mags.untergrund.net/wiki/index.php%3Ftitle%3DDT_84_84&amp;prev=_t&#160; 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Wenn ich ein Beil gehabt h&amp;auml;tte</del></div></td><td colspan="2">&#160;</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></del></div></td><td colspan="2">&#160;</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:P&#160; &#160; !!!!:::(()))!!&amp;szlig;-$(&quot;&quot;&quot;;;&#160; &#160; 8=&#160; :(</del></div></td><td colspan="2">&#160;</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:P&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; 8=&#160; :(</del></div></td><td colspan="2">&#160;</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></del></div></td><td colspan="2">&#160;</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Und das alles nur,&#160; weil der Mausstecker</del></div></td><td colspan="2">&#160;</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">ab war. GRRRRRRGRUNZZ!!!!!</del></div></td><td colspan="2">&#160;</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">________________________________________</del></div></td><td colspan="2">&#160;</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">&lt;/pre&gt;</del></div></td><td colspan="2">&#160;</td></tr> </table> Nyquist http://c64mags.untergrund.net/wiki/index.php?title=DT_84_84&diff=5606&oldid=prev Nyquist at 13:39, 6 October 2010 2010-10-06T13:39:52Z <p></p> <p><b>New page</b></p><div>[http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;sl=de&amp;tl=en&amp;u=http://c64mags.untergrund.net/wiki/index.php%3Ftitle%3DDT_84_84&amp;prev=_t English Translation]<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> VON KLAUS QUINDT:<br /> <br /> DAS CHAOS<br /> ________________________________________<br /> <br /> Damit man sich mal ein Bild machen kann:<br /> <br /> In meinem Computerzimmer (vorher Lager-<br /> raum), habe ich den XP-PC. Links steht<br /> ein Win98-PC. Den brauche ich, wenn ich<br /> Schallplatten einspiele und die Tracks<br /> &amp;uuml;berarbeite.<br /> <br /> Zwischen Win98 und XP stehen Drucker,<br /> Stereoanlage, Plattenspieler etc. Rechts<br /> neben mir steht ein &amp;auml;lterer XP. Darauf<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> teste ich Programme/Spiele. Nach der In-<br /> stallation und einem Test kopiere ich<br /> die dann r&amp;uuml;ber.<br /> <br /> Wenn die dann so zu starten sind, wei&amp;szlig;<br /> ich, dass das Spiel/Programm nicht in-<br /> stalliert werden muss. Kopie gen&amp;uuml;gt.<br /> <br /> Manche &quot;Installationsprogramme&quot; kopieren<br /> auch nur 'ne DLL ins Win-Verzeichnis.<br /> <br /> Dann kommt ja eine Meldung, dass diese<br /> DLL fehlt. Die suche ich dann und kopie-<br /> re sie ins Verzeichnis, wo das Spiel/<br /> Programm ist. Klappt meist. Danach muss<br /> das Prog nicht mehr installiert werden.<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> Nun habe ich den Uralt-PC ja wieder ak-<br /> tiviert (C64 Disks kopieren). Den habe<br /> ich auf den anderen PC gestellt. Einen<br /> alten Monitor noch irgendwo zwischen ge-<br /> quetscht.<br /> Zum Chaos:<br /> <br /> Alles fing ganz harmlos an. Ich starte<br /> den alten XP. Die Maus tat nichts. Der<br /> Stecker war hinten raus. Weil alles so<br /> eng war, ist mir der Turm umgekippt.<br /> <br /> Dabei hat sich beim XP der Einschalt-<br /> knopf gel&amp;ouml;st (innen), was ich aber nicht<br /> sofort erkannt habe. Zuerst habe ich ge-<br /> dacht, das Netzteil w&amp;auml;re defekt.<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> Alle Kabel der 2 PCs abgemacht, aufge-<br /> schraubt und dann das Netzteil gel&amp;ouml;st.<br /> <br /> Bis ich dann innen den Knopf gesehen ha-<br /> be. Beim Zusammenbau hat sich dann am<br /> Uralt-PC die Steckbuchse f&amp;uuml;r den Floppy-<br /> anschluss gel&amp;ouml;st und ist ins Geh&amp;auml;use ge-<br /> flutscht. Konnte ich das Ding auch noch<br /> zerlegen. Wenn ich ein Beil gehabt h&amp;auml;tte<br /> <br /> :P !!!!:::(()))!!&amp;szlig;-$(&quot;&quot;&quot;;; 8= :(<br /> :P 8= :(<br /> <br /> Und das alles nur, weil der Mausstecker<br /> ab war. GRRRRRRGRUNZZ!!!!!<br /> ________________________________________<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;</div> Nyquist