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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
          &amp;quot;internal problems!!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    with help by the internal-staff!&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
 well we got this reaction from the&lt;br /&gt;
 guys in internal, so read it and after&lt;br /&gt;
 a reaction from both me and tch!&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
bah, bah bah, fucking bah bah and again&lt;br /&gt;
bah!! this chapter is completely&lt;br /&gt;
dedicated to brutal recall after i have&lt;br /&gt;
read their last issue (number 11)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ok, to the point...&lt;br /&gt;
first of all, they think they're comming&lt;br /&gt;
up with entirely new ideas when those so&lt;br /&gt;
called new ideas already exist for some&lt;br /&gt;
hundred years...&lt;br /&gt;
for example... you said, a good mag-&lt;br /&gt;
editor must know all the latest gossip&lt;br /&gt;
from the scene, he should know some&lt;br /&gt;
history about the scene, with other&lt;br /&gt;
words, he has to be updated. that is&lt;br /&gt;
what you ment, ain't it?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
so... ok, i fully agree with you, but&lt;br /&gt;
now this... you guys are so proud about&lt;br /&gt;
yourself you find out ideas you think&lt;br /&gt;
they're original and were never used&lt;br /&gt;
before...&lt;br /&gt;
i was fucking upset when you cameup with&lt;br /&gt;
the new idea making a quizz... a quizz,&lt;br /&gt;
why not anyway? but aaargh! the idea&lt;br /&gt;
of making a quizz was already used be-4&lt;br /&gt;
in another magazine... so you are so&lt;br /&gt;
called updated? ahum... yep, if you&lt;br /&gt;
had read some issues of internal, then&lt;br /&gt;
you would know we already did some&lt;br /&gt;
quizzes before. if you don't believe me,&lt;br /&gt;
check it out, you'll see...&lt;br /&gt;
              (ed. yep, internal rules!)&lt;br /&gt;
hehe, what did you say again? that some&lt;br /&gt;
lamers would steel your idea... to be&lt;br /&gt;
short, your quizz isn't original and you&lt;br /&gt;
are definately not updated. maybe you&lt;br /&gt;
are a bad editor? coz you said a mag-&lt;br /&gt;
editor has to be updated...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
another thing, i'm not finished yet,&lt;br /&gt;
hell no!!&lt;br /&gt;
why always giving bad criticism on other&lt;br /&gt;
magazines, what the fuck is up with you?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
so you wanna try a new idea to make the&lt;br /&gt;
charts much more fairer and better...&lt;br /&gt;
but hell! the idea of the country vote-&lt;br /&gt;
sheet wasn't ment to get better and&lt;br /&gt;
fairer charts, no man, the country&lt;br /&gt;
vote-sheet was just made to show the&lt;br /&gt;
people which groups are the best in&lt;br /&gt;
their own country... voila and that's&lt;br /&gt;
all, it ain't that difficult, or?...&lt;br /&gt;
annie lennox told it before... why?&lt;br /&gt;
          (ed. g'n'r, use your illusion)&lt;br /&gt;
why do some people make simple things&lt;br /&gt;
always so difficult, tell me...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
i'm not jealous to brutal recall, but&lt;br /&gt;
please, please and please respect&lt;br /&gt;
the other mag-editors choice in the way&lt;br /&gt;
they want to make their magazine...&lt;br /&gt;
                (ed. we do, believe me!)&lt;br /&gt;
you also complained (again! bah!) about&lt;br /&gt;
the fact there are too many magazines&lt;br /&gt;
comming up into the scene. why's that?&lt;br /&gt;
affraid of any concurrence for brutal&lt;br /&gt;
recall?..&lt;br /&gt;
you don't like it that upcomming groups&lt;br /&gt;
are making a magazine to get a bit more&lt;br /&gt;
famous? gee gee...tell me, what was and&lt;br /&gt;
what did brutal in the scene before they&lt;br /&gt;
had brutal recall? nothing much eh? don'&lt;br /&gt;
t say now i'm not updated cause brutal&lt;br /&gt;
did something... i say no, brutal&lt;br /&gt;
didn't do a thing...   (ed. wake up man)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
you might ask now... what the hell did&lt;br /&gt;
wow before they had internal... well i&lt;br /&gt;
can tell you we atleast already existed&lt;br /&gt;
for about 4 years, yep, and we did&lt;br /&gt;
cracking, coding and having fun before&lt;br /&gt;
we started with internal.(ed.stl: years&lt;br /&gt;
before brutal excisted for sure!)&lt;br /&gt;
             (ed. cry, we did the same!)&lt;br /&gt;
but what the hell is wrong with you?&lt;br /&gt;
ain't it cool that there are so many&lt;br /&gt;
magazines around... doesn't have each&lt;br /&gt;
magazine something special? ofcourse, i&lt;br /&gt;
say!&lt;br /&gt;
okay, there are many magazines, but they&lt;br /&gt;
are keeping the scene alive and that's&lt;br /&gt;
my opinion and i think i'm right too...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
oh man, why are the new scene-pals&lt;br /&gt;
making new magazines, for their aim...&lt;br /&gt;
but ofcourse most of all for having&lt;br /&gt;
fun... why did you come up with brutal&lt;br /&gt;
recall? ofcourse, to have a good time in&lt;br /&gt;
the scene, to be apreciated and to have&lt;br /&gt;
fun! admit it! so let the other scenies&lt;br /&gt;
make as much magazines as they want to,&lt;br /&gt;
as long as we all have fun in the scene.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
life is already too boring to make even&lt;br /&gt;
more troubles in the scene...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
well, i hope one of you brutal recall&lt;br /&gt;
editors will read this, and if you&lt;br /&gt;
don't, one of your secret-agents will&lt;br /&gt;
inform you about this i suppose.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
and please think about all i've said&lt;br /&gt;
here and note this wasn't one of those&lt;br /&gt;
fucking lame war-declarations, hell no.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
i didn't want to make troubles... i&lt;br /&gt;
just told you the facts... if you wanna&lt;br /&gt;
make trouble about this, then you will&lt;br /&gt;
know what being lame is, and with that&lt;br /&gt;
i'll finish this chapter, going on my&lt;br /&gt;
way to edit another (cool) one.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
if you really would want to start a war,&lt;br /&gt;
(i guess you're not soooo lame!)&lt;br /&gt;
me'n'einstein's words would be...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
gett ill and go playing in the krankhouz&lt;br /&gt;
check your head dude!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
          reaction from r.c.s.!&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
 well first thanks for your neat&lt;br /&gt;
 reaction! first let me say, and i think&lt;br /&gt;
 i speak for all in brutal, we don't&lt;br /&gt;
 want no fucking war!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 well, you said that brutal didn't do&lt;br /&gt;
 anything at all untill we got recall&lt;br /&gt;
 out on the streets! wrong! brutal&lt;br /&gt;
 was formed at my place, and the same&lt;br /&gt;
 day 1 disk was already cracked and&lt;br /&gt;
 brutal started to show up on charts.&lt;br /&gt;
 also tch and n-joi did some demos for&lt;br /&gt;
 the fun of it,also before brutal recall&lt;br /&gt;
 was being released!  so you are for&lt;br /&gt;
 sure not updated on the brutal history,&lt;br /&gt;
 and i'm not gonna say anything about&lt;br /&gt;
 the w.o.w. history, because i really&lt;br /&gt;
 don't know so much about it, so when&lt;br /&gt;
 you don't know, then it is better to&lt;br /&gt;
 say nothing!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 about us never reading internal, it is&lt;br /&gt;
 true, as i came up with the quizz&lt;br /&gt;
 thing, i'm the one that has to take&lt;br /&gt;
 the blame for that! i only read the&lt;br /&gt;
 charts and news in internal, coz as you&lt;br /&gt;
 said your self ones, it's just one big&lt;br /&gt;
 note!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 i also don't care if other groups&lt;br /&gt;
 start a mag, then you say that we are&lt;br /&gt;
 affraid for some concurrence, no way,&lt;br /&gt;
 we know that we are not the no.1 mag,&lt;br /&gt;
 script is! also all are welcome to make&lt;br /&gt;
 mags, they do it anyway, even if we&lt;br /&gt;
 think that there are too many!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 about the country-votesheet, i really&lt;br /&gt;
 don't have anything to do with that at&lt;br /&gt;
 all!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 well i hope that cleared up most of&lt;br /&gt;
 the things! if not then i hope that&lt;br /&gt;
 tch (main editor) can write some things&lt;br /&gt;
 in his reaction!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
           reaction from tch!&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
okay,a megha thanxx goes to these dudes&lt;br /&gt;
  from internal for writing such a very&lt;br /&gt;
  cool letter!!  and i mean this!!!&lt;br /&gt;
  these kind of things make the scene&lt;br /&gt;
  more fun to participate!!!&lt;br /&gt;
  i am kinda shocked it took so long&lt;br /&gt;
  before somebody wrote this kinda text&lt;br /&gt;
  to us!!     i've been expecting it for&lt;br /&gt;
  quite some issues now!!&lt;br /&gt;
  but finally somebody had the guts to&lt;br /&gt;
  do it....   thanxx again!!&lt;br /&gt;
  you probably decided to write it,after&lt;br /&gt;
  your unsuccessfull attempt to get&lt;br /&gt;
  contacted by me!  don't take it too&lt;br /&gt;
  personal as i gave up swapping a long,&lt;br /&gt;
  very long time ago!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
now to get to my reaction,as i ofcourse&lt;br /&gt;
  want to defend this magazine!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
first about this quizz thing that you&lt;br /&gt;
  consider as one of your strongest&lt;br /&gt;
  points against us..&lt;br /&gt;
  the first to ask people what they&lt;br /&gt;
  think about sertain stuff was brutal&lt;br /&gt;
  recall!!   we launched the very first&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;quot;opinion poll&amp;quot; in (brutal) recall #1,&lt;br /&gt;
  released in may 1991!!&lt;br /&gt;
  several magazines,mamba included!,&lt;br /&gt;
  stole our idea and made all kind off&lt;br /&gt;
  derivations from it!!&lt;br /&gt;
  but now we bring our own derivation in&lt;br /&gt;
  a multiple choise way,which i had and&lt;br /&gt;
  still have not seen before,and you&lt;br /&gt;
  start crying to your mumsie that you&lt;br /&gt;
  had done it before...&lt;br /&gt;
  okay,have it your way and keep those&lt;br /&gt;
  tears rolling!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
so,i am a bad editor...  i admit i know&lt;br /&gt;
  shit about what is actually happening&lt;br /&gt;
  in the scene,and i don't really care&lt;br /&gt;
  as well!!!   you see the scene as your&lt;br /&gt;
  most important reason for being alive!&lt;br /&gt;
  you said: &amp;quot;life is already too boring&lt;br /&gt;
  to make even more troubles in the&lt;br /&gt;
  scene...&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
  life itself is one big trouble!!&lt;br /&gt;
  just look at all the mess you go&lt;br /&gt;
  through!!!    everybody is so eager to&lt;br /&gt;
  learn their asses off,while it is for&lt;br /&gt;
  sure that nobody will survive life!!&lt;br /&gt;
  everyone will die!  so,why not have a&lt;br /&gt;
  lot of fun,instead of being too&lt;br /&gt;
  seriously involved in the scene!!!&lt;br /&gt;
  you know something.. i always wanted&lt;br /&gt;
  to be known by everyone and get&lt;br /&gt;
  contacted by lots of guys instead of&lt;br /&gt;
  hoping for someone to send back,but&lt;br /&gt;
  now that most people know me,i would&lt;br /&gt;
  really like to get unknown again,as it&lt;br /&gt;
  is much more fun!!!&lt;br /&gt;
  you see,if you are known,people are&lt;br /&gt;
  waiting for you to release things,be&lt;br /&gt;
  megha-active and stuff like that,while&lt;br /&gt;
  in the 'unknown' years,you just did&lt;br /&gt;
  what you wanted to do and that's it!!&lt;br /&gt;
  at the moment,my scene-life is one big&lt;br /&gt;
  mess!!!   i get more and more 'downs'&lt;br /&gt;
  than 'ups'...  i think the scene is&lt;br /&gt;
  becoming a big drag,and that's the&lt;br /&gt;
  opposite of fun!!  i really don't like&lt;br /&gt;
  doing brutal recall anymore!!&lt;br /&gt;
  but as being a very respected magazine&lt;br /&gt;
  it would not be a wise decision to&lt;br /&gt;
  stop it just like that..   but as you&lt;br /&gt;
  might have noticed,the time between&lt;br /&gt;
  issue has increased and this time i've&lt;br /&gt;
  set a new record!!   3 months!!&lt;br /&gt;
  look,r.c.s. is actually the one who&lt;br /&gt;
  keeps me doing this crap,although i am&lt;br /&gt;
  so sick off it that i sometimes can't&lt;br /&gt;
  sleep!!!      the only thing i really&lt;br /&gt;
  like to do on the compy nowadays is&lt;br /&gt;
  drawing and making intros with a nice&lt;br /&gt;
  looking different design. (in my point&lt;br /&gt;
  of view,that is!!)&lt;br /&gt;
  this is the reason for my texts being&lt;br /&gt;
  more and more provocating!!!  i simply&lt;br /&gt;
  didn't know anything to write anymore&lt;br /&gt;
  and simply started to boast and 'rag'&lt;br /&gt;
  waiting for someone like you to write&lt;br /&gt;
  something back!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
why i give bad criticisms to magazines?&lt;br /&gt;
  why giving good criticisms to mags?!&lt;br /&gt;
  there is no point at all in giving&lt;br /&gt;
  good criticims as there is nothing you&lt;br /&gt;
  can do about those things!!&lt;br /&gt;
  the bad criticisms are there,so that&lt;br /&gt;
  those things could be improved or&lt;br /&gt;
  removed!!   i consider the ratings i&lt;br /&gt;
  give for mags,a good criticism as that&lt;br /&gt;
  shows what i think of it!!&lt;br /&gt;
  so if it's low i hate it and if it's&lt;br /&gt;
  high i love it,no matter what my bad&lt;br /&gt;
  criticisms might say!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
i don't really know &amp;quot;why&amp;quot; you wrote&lt;br /&gt;
  about the country-votesheet as i don't&lt;br /&gt;
  see any connections to the last issue&lt;br /&gt;
  of brutal recall!!   the only thing i&lt;br /&gt;
  wrote in issue 11 was that &amp;quot;internal&lt;br /&gt;
  came up with a system,but it aint the&lt;br /&gt;
  ultimate sollution&amp;quot;..&lt;br /&gt;
  okay,i don't like it and i wrote shit&lt;br /&gt;
  about it,in issues released a long&lt;br /&gt;
  time ago!!   but if you wanna keep on&lt;br /&gt;
  talking about old stuff,than that's up&lt;br /&gt;
  to you,but don't expect me to write&lt;br /&gt;
  anything back at all..&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
  i don't care about country charts,as&lt;br /&gt;
  most groups are internationals anyway!&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
  but if you think that system is good&lt;br /&gt;
  enough than write some arguments that&lt;br /&gt;
  can't be made to be a point against&lt;br /&gt;
  the system!! if something is really&lt;br /&gt;
  good,there is no way someone can make&lt;br /&gt;
  it look like as if it stinks!!&lt;br /&gt;
  btw,i don't like charts at all,and the&lt;br /&gt;
  idea i gave to make fairer and better&lt;br /&gt;
  charts was written because i didn't&lt;br /&gt;
  know what to write else!!   i am&lt;br /&gt;
  certainly not going to do all that&lt;br /&gt;
  shit just to get fairer+better charts!&lt;br /&gt;
  charts spoil the scene!!   you said&lt;br /&gt;
  people do things because they wanna&lt;br /&gt;
  have fun...  but nowadays,whilst we&lt;br /&gt;
  got all these charts,people do things&lt;br /&gt;
  not for the fun of it,but for their&lt;br /&gt;
  position in the charts!!&lt;br /&gt;
  i think computing is a hobby,but&lt;br /&gt;
  people act more like as if it is their&lt;br /&gt;
  fucking job!!  hello!!  anybody home?!&lt;br /&gt;
  the scene is a &amp;quot;hobby&amp;quot;!!!   what is&lt;br /&gt;
  the point of being on the top of a&lt;br /&gt;
  chart?!?     will your life be much&lt;br /&gt;
  better?!?  nope,don't think so!!&lt;br /&gt;
  enough about that...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
i should be afraid of competition to the&lt;br /&gt;
  brutal recall..   i'm not afraid as i&lt;br /&gt;
  don't care much the position of the&lt;br /&gt;
  mag in charts!   i thought you did&lt;br /&gt;
  this for fun?!?   i think concurence&lt;br /&gt;
  is something that only excists in jobs&lt;br /&gt;
  and not in hobbies!!  a job you do&lt;br /&gt;
  because you want to be the best in it,&lt;br /&gt;
  and a hobby is for the fun of it!&lt;br /&gt;
  the reason for me to complain about&lt;br /&gt;
  those too many mags is that i have to&lt;br /&gt;
  read them all to be a 'good' editor!!&lt;br /&gt;
  okay,you got nothing better to do than&lt;br /&gt;
  reading mags as you are too l?!* to do&lt;br /&gt;
  anything else,but i don't like to read&lt;br /&gt;
  over 50 mags and that's also why i&lt;br /&gt;
  don't do it!!  so,call me a bad editor&lt;br /&gt;
  and stuff like that,but fun is the&lt;br /&gt;
  magic word!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
r.c.s. already wrote something to the&lt;br /&gt;
  lines that brutal did not do anything&lt;br /&gt;
  before brutal-recall,but i also wanna&lt;br /&gt;
  say something..   before we started&lt;br /&gt;
  the magazine,brutal lived for half a&lt;br /&gt;
  year..  in this period we released 3&lt;br /&gt;
  small demoes,2 mega demos,about 15&lt;br /&gt;
  disxx of cracks and several utilities!&lt;br /&gt;
  not bad for half a year eh?!  well,as&lt;br /&gt;
  we were just formed we were not known&lt;br /&gt;
  at all,but atleast we appeared in the&lt;br /&gt;
  charts of both the cracking and the&lt;br /&gt;
  demo sections!!   as far as i can&lt;br /&gt;
  recall,in those 4 years before you&lt;br /&gt;
  started internal,i never have seen the&lt;br /&gt;
  warriors of wasteland in any of the&lt;br /&gt;
  charts!!!    so,if the 5 of us did&lt;br /&gt;
  nothing but still appeared in charts,&lt;br /&gt;
  and you with your 25 guys did so much&lt;br /&gt;
  but still were not spotted in any&lt;br /&gt;
  chart...i really wonder what you did!!&lt;br /&gt;
  reading magazines?!?&lt;br /&gt;
  by the way,you haven't been in wow,all&lt;br /&gt;
  those 4 years,while i have been in&lt;br /&gt;
  brutal eversince it got formed!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
okay,mags keep the scene alive,as there&lt;br /&gt;
  is more communication,but the mags are&lt;br /&gt;
  also destroying the scene!!&lt;br /&gt;
  anyway,cracks are also destroying it&lt;br /&gt;
  and i'm sure there's also something we&lt;br /&gt;
  can hold against demos!!&lt;br /&gt;
  but the most important thing to keep&lt;br /&gt;
  the scene alive,is just doing it for&lt;br /&gt;
  fun!!  if you don't like doing it,you&lt;br /&gt;
  will stop doing it!!  it's not always&lt;br /&gt;
  as simple as that,but it's actually&lt;br /&gt;
  the basic behind everything!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
thanxx to brutal-agent-rc7 for supplying&lt;br /&gt;
  us with the text!!&lt;br /&gt;
  man!!!  watch less tv!! and go see a&lt;br /&gt;
  doctor!   you really need observation!&lt;br /&gt;
  oh by the way...i already know what&lt;br /&gt;
  being lame is,i've seen internal!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
      also a little advise to you:&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
      life is what you make it is!&lt;br /&gt;
so if you think it's boring,stop living!&lt;br /&gt;
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ps,we are bah proud to have a chapter&lt;br /&gt;
  completely dedicated to us...&lt;br /&gt;
  as a reward we did the same to you!!!&lt;br /&gt;
  hope you're all so happy now and go&lt;br /&gt;
  outside to enjoy it without a keyboard&lt;br /&gt;
  and a screen!!&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ymgve</name></author>	</entry>

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