Ymgve at 01:09, 19 June 2007

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do ya think that the c64 is the ultimate
computer,or do you prefer the amiga?

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this question is of big importance in
the scene of today!!
lots of guys leave the c64 for the
amiga,but another big part of us,does
not believe in the amiga at all and
even call it lamiga!!
what is the reason for the amiga and
c64 being so related to eachother?!?
you hardly hear anything about the
'battle' between the c64 and pc or any
other computers!!
the c64 and amiga are not at all the
same kind of computers as the c64 is a
'simple' 8-bit machine and the amiga a
16-bitter!! still it seems that the
amiga is c64's big brother!!
maybe that is because they are both
commodore productions. it is true
that once the c64 was an incredible
machine,and also the amiga was a big
break through! nowadays lots of beter
computers are available,but still the
good old c64 is alive and kicking!!
the amiga is at the moment going tru
the same period as once the c64 was...
the time of an enormous amount of
games... but allready the amiga is
going down too!! the world of games
seems to be taken over by hand-helds
and consoles! i won't go deeper into
this movement,but it seems like that
the amiga is also about to start on
its way to death!!
and 'death' is what lots of people
talk about,when they think about the
c64!! they think it had its time and
that it'll die within 1 year!!
but people allready say these things
since a couple of years,but the scene
is still alive and kicking!!
maybe there is something about this
little machine that people miss on the
other 'better' machines...
some say the code,graphics and music
is better on the amiga,but just check
out the abilities of both machines...
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item commodore 64 amiga
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type 8-bit 16-bit
colors 16 4096
memory 64kb 500kb or more
sound 3 ways 4 ways stereo
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also the amiga is much faster than the
c64 so more and faster routines can be
programmed!!
the pixels on amiga are much smaller
than on c64 so details can be drawn
perfectly. also the amount of colors
make that you can draw more vivid on
amiga... still great pictures are
being drawn on c64 and we're improving
a lot...
also the coding is not that far behind
off the amiga!
rubber filled vector,masses of dots,
overlace,raytracing...it's all here!!
nobody thought the c64 could do any of
these things!!!
and with all those fli editors it's
possible to use all 16 colors in 1
cursor!!!
the music is,in my opinion,much better
on c64,as on the amiga all is just
some piano banging,while on the c64
lots of great,weird,instruments are
being used!! ofcourse there are also
great tunes on amiga,but the overall
is pretty bah...
the demoscene on amiga looks very
boring to me!! in every demo you
see the same... fast vector shit,star
screens,plasma,madcap cycles and....
but the thing that shocks me more is
the fact that there are hardly any
cool charsets on the amiga!!!
most of them are so ugly that even
chars from 1985 on c64 look better!!
also a lot of logos are fucking ugly!
the best graphics are the,digitised,
ham-pictures!! they really kick ass!!
also "skid row" has one hell of a good
logo,also "vision" with 'hein design'
(yep,the c64 painter!!) has great
logos!! for the rest i'm pretty
disappointed about the graphics...
on c64 there seem to be a new rage in
the demo-world!!
'design' and 'style' are the mainwords
in todays demo-scene!!
a very good example is "dutch breeze"
from 'blackmail'!!
it took 3 years,but it was worth
waiting for!!
okay,before i end this,i'll print the
letter that made me write this text...
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the scene
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why do all complain about the amiga,
while still 50 % leaves for it ?

why is the amiga-scene so bad, and
the c64 scene so great ?

why don't people realise that the
amiga is better, no matter what people
say ?

this is cam of atlantis with an
article about the c64 and amiga-scene.

well.. first of all! i'm in both the
scenes,so i should know the difference!

o.k. ..

many people on the amiga say that the
c64 is so bad, but this aint true!
the c64 is a great machine, and you can
find a lot of nice people there.

and on the c64, people say the same
about the amiga. but this aint true
either.. the amiga is also a great
machine, and believe me.. the scene
there isn't worse then on the c64,and
no matter what you say, i still think
that the scene on the c64 is good.

well.. here is what i think should be
done to make both the scenes better !

first of all.. stop all wars on both
machines.. oh god, they are so lame !

to the c64-scene: stop talking shit
about amiga, and realise that the
graphics and code is better there.
(but still.. stay calm on the c64 !!)..

to the amiga scene: stop talking shit
about the c64 scene.. and realise that
the music is better on c64, still
the instruments are better on the
amiga. don't think that the c64 is
so bad, because it aint !

and people.. stop cracking 50 %, and
start making good demos instead.

remember.. it's better to make one
demo a year, that is original.. with
good code, graphics and music.. then
to make ten that suck !

why do all complain about mags being
so lame, but still.. almost everyone
has one? i like mags, and atleast
mags are ten times better as cracks !

well.. i know that i haven't expressed
myself so good in this article, but
i hope you get my point !

thanks for reading it !
c64
IJK cam of atlantis
LMNOPQ
RSTUVW amiga
dee-lite of atomic.
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some comments to the letter...
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first of all i want to thank you for
sending it to us!!
okay,i don't think 50% leaves for the
amiga,maybe 10% but not much more!!
the amount of wars on the c64 is very
low nowadays,as the last big war i can
recall,was the one between censor and
fairlight,the 'aaaa'=all agains aaron!
this was a real war!! what people
nowadays think when they hear the word
'war' is,two groups telling shit about
eachother.. what a war!!
reduce cracking till 50% won't bring
much more demos out,as mostly crackers
don't code,paint or compose!!!
mags have become a part of the scene,
and just as there are good and bad
demos,there are good and bad mags!!
does anyone complain about bad demos?!
so why complain about bad mags?!?
if they are bad enough,nobody will
support it and it will stop by itself!
well,that was all i wanted to write
for now...
till next issue!!
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Brutal Recall 11 ch19 - Revision history

Ymgve at 01:09, 19 June 2007