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		<title>Ymgve at 01:00, 19 June 2007</title>
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dear redactors! please notice that in&lt;br /&gt;
poland is also something called &amp;quot;scene&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
ofcourse this scene is not that big like&lt;br /&gt;
holland or denmark,but always...&lt;br /&gt;
so,please,write something about it in&lt;br /&gt;
chapter &amp;quot;point of view&amp;quot;,ok?&lt;br /&gt;
these are my propositions:&lt;br /&gt;
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crackergroups:     demogroups:&lt;br /&gt;
1.elysium          1.parados&lt;br /&gt;
2.skylight         2.elysium&lt;br /&gt;
3.parados          3.skylight&lt;br /&gt;
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and no more...&lt;br /&gt;
anyway,thanx!!&lt;br /&gt;
                      yours,hain/elysium&lt;br /&gt;
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howdy hain!  first,before the found of&lt;br /&gt;
elysium,there were only 2 groups present&lt;br /&gt;
in poland!!  it is not really usefull to&lt;br /&gt;
give rankings of a country when only 2&lt;br /&gt;
groups are something!!&lt;br /&gt;
anyway,the &amp;quot;point of view&amp;quot; is gone!!&lt;br /&gt;
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put 1 or 2 tunes more in the mag and it&lt;br /&gt;
will be cooler!   and make your charts&lt;br /&gt;
bigger!!&lt;br /&gt;
                          kingpin/w.o.w.&lt;br /&gt;
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you can load your own music from now!!&lt;br /&gt;
what do you mean with 'bigger'.&lt;br /&gt;
more or longer charts?&lt;br /&gt;
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nice mag,getting better every issue.&lt;br /&gt;
my suggestion is to insert some compos.&lt;br /&gt;
(graphics,music etc...) with rich prizes&lt;br /&gt;
and beautiful girls.  keep it jojoba!&lt;br /&gt;
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                         zoris/flash inc&lt;br /&gt;
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yep! we will do something of that kind!&lt;br /&gt;
there will be more information about in&lt;br /&gt;
the next issue!!&lt;br /&gt;
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thanx tch and the other editors! because&lt;br /&gt;
b.r.#9 was the best mag i've ever read&lt;br /&gt;
and seen!  i think you're right,just use&lt;br /&gt;
these cool musics,as you used in the&lt;br /&gt;
last issues! i think you always use cool&lt;br /&gt;
musics!  the text was very cool and&lt;br /&gt;
interesting!  hope the new issue'll be&lt;br /&gt;
as cool as this (or cooler). best wishes&lt;br /&gt;
to b.r.editors from a b.r.fan!&lt;br /&gt;
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         your friend: stephen/triumwyrat&lt;br /&gt;
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i always put in musics i hardly heared&lt;br /&gt;
before and musics which were somewhere&lt;br /&gt;
in the memory at $4000-$ffff and then i&lt;br /&gt;
relocate it to $1000 so i can use it!!&lt;br /&gt;
i did that last time and also this time&lt;br /&gt;
with an outrageous tune from zardax of&lt;br /&gt;
origo dreamline!!&lt;br /&gt;
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improve your chart (votesheet). here's&lt;br /&gt;
some ideas. everything is ok but try to&lt;br /&gt;
add these:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
         what about a chart for&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
         coverdesigners (5 best)&lt;br /&gt;
         best demos of the month&lt;br /&gt;
         best countries (5 best)&lt;br /&gt;
         best cracking intros...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
this were just some ideas which struck&lt;br /&gt;
my mind when i was reading your always&lt;br /&gt;
interesting and cool mag.&lt;br /&gt;
                          buzzard/rebels&lt;br /&gt;
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okay,i've made an opinion poll so read&lt;br /&gt;
that for more...&lt;br /&gt;
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the most ruling mag in the scene!&lt;br /&gt;
the heeps of chapters makes it very&lt;br /&gt;
better comparing it to the other mags!&lt;br /&gt;
but why voting for the usa on the sheet?&lt;br /&gt;
i think it would be cooler to stick to&lt;br /&gt;
europe coz i think usa is lame on c64!!&lt;br /&gt;
you got my number one vote!&lt;br /&gt;
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      c-u! stormbringer/abyss connection&lt;br /&gt;
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you might think the usa is lame on c64,&lt;br /&gt;
but there are people out there who like&lt;br /&gt;
it,so i'll just keep it in...&lt;br /&gt;
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this is lead of house designs. i just&lt;br /&gt;
saw your review of our demo called animo&lt;br /&gt;
in brutal recall. i think it sucks. i&lt;br /&gt;
admit that the coding was worthless,but&lt;br /&gt;
the graphics were cool,and so was the&lt;br /&gt;
music.  if you've read the note i wrote&lt;br /&gt;
to the demo,you know it was only ment to&lt;br /&gt;
be a graphics-demo.&lt;br /&gt;
the music: all music in our demo was&lt;br /&gt;
made by our own composers. and you gave&lt;br /&gt;
a higher rate for music to people that&lt;br /&gt;
ripp music. i think that is a lousy way&lt;br /&gt;
of reviewing.  our composers work to get&lt;br /&gt;
good music out of the loudspeaker,and&lt;br /&gt;
this is rewarded with a 6.5 rate. other&lt;br /&gt;
people just load a good demo,and then&lt;br /&gt;
save all of the memory from $1000-$1fff&lt;br /&gt;
and then hope they've saved all of the&lt;br /&gt;
music's data. and then you still give&lt;br /&gt;
them a rate of 8.5 points (camelot).&lt;br /&gt;
i think this stinks.  why don't you be&lt;br /&gt;
objective and do not give points to gays&lt;br /&gt;
that ripp music.&lt;br /&gt;
i know many people will react angree,&lt;br /&gt;
threaten with wars,start hacking on us,&lt;br /&gt;
or anything like that,but we don't give&lt;br /&gt;
a fuck. this is our opinion about the&lt;br /&gt;
whole stuff.&lt;br /&gt;
please watch your mailboxes,because when&lt;br /&gt;
the next house designs demo is finished,&lt;br /&gt;
i'll send it to you to review.  if you&lt;br /&gt;
then still think it aint worth much&lt;br /&gt;
points...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
also about the bml-dutch breeze demo.&lt;br /&gt;
in the dragon part you have to press&lt;br /&gt;
fire in port two when the cloud is over&lt;br /&gt;
the dragon. then you kill the dragon.&lt;br /&gt;
in the fingerfuck-part you'll have to&lt;br /&gt;
wetten your finger and then rub it over&lt;br /&gt;
port 2. this causes a differential in&lt;br /&gt;
the resistor of the paddle port.&lt;br /&gt;
and then you fingerfuck the girl....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
reaction: i think most people like your&lt;br /&gt;
mag,because it's spread well. most&lt;br /&gt;
people vote for what they get in their&lt;br /&gt;
mailbox.  that doesn't mean,that i think&lt;br /&gt;
your mag is lame!!  your mag got a great&lt;br /&gt;
quantity of text. it is also nice to&lt;br /&gt;
read,got a clear charset,but the menubox&lt;br /&gt;
and the sprite logos are not so good at&lt;br /&gt;
all. but as you said,i await issue 10!&lt;br /&gt;
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dear lead,if someone makes i graphicdemo&lt;br /&gt;
it always stands in the demotext and not&lt;br /&gt;
in some note to it!!  if you make a demo&lt;br /&gt;
and when it's finished you think that&lt;br /&gt;
the code sux,then you can always call it&lt;br /&gt;
a graphics demo...  this is lame or...&lt;br /&gt;
all your musics were done by your own&lt;br /&gt;
composers,but if i make some tune -i can&lt;br /&gt;
not get any rythm at all- then you won't&lt;br /&gt;
hear me that i want a higher rate becoz&lt;br /&gt;
my music is own made!!  but it counts if&lt;br /&gt;
you use own-made tunes!!!  if i review&lt;br /&gt;
a demo and the music is own made or made&lt;br /&gt;
especialy made for you,then you'll get&lt;br /&gt;
always 1 extra point out of 10!!&lt;br /&gt;
you see,your music was rated 5.5 and&lt;br /&gt;
with this point it came to 6.5!!!&lt;br /&gt;
i think it's lame to give lousy tunes&lt;br /&gt;
higher rates than great tunes,even if&lt;br /&gt;
they were not made by their own!!&lt;br /&gt;
ps,in camelots demo were also tunes by&lt;br /&gt;
duck larock,and he's one of camelot and&lt;br /&gt;
a fucking cool composer!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
about bml's dragon shit... i watched the&lt;br /&gt;
demo too without even looking at my joy!&lt;br /&gt;
now also the dragon got struck by the&lt;br /&gt;
lightning!!!!&lt;br /&gt;
in the fingerfuck part i tried to do the&lt;br /&gt;
trick with the wet finger,as it was done&lt;br /&gt;
before in an old demo!!,but i didn't get&lt;br /&gt;
any results!  (btw,if you rub port 2,you&lt;br /&gt;
will end up dead as i gotta be port 1!!)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
looking forward to the next demo???&lt;br /&gt;
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here's some text written by tch/brutal..&lt;br /&gt;
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i saw in script #12 a letter from action&lt;br /&gt;
jackson of the ruling company and he was&lt;br /&gt;
writing that the charts in script were&lt;br /&gt;
phantasy!!  i want to thank remix for&lt;br /&gt;
his reaction to it,but i will also give&lt;br /&gt;
my own opinion as he said some wrong&lt;br /&gt;
words!!&lt;br /&gt;
quote: &amp;quot;every dutch guy knows that trc&lt;br /&gt;
is the best and fastest crackergroup in&lt;br /&gt;
holland,hotline is dead and even brutal&lt;br /&gt;
says trc is better&amp;quot;...&lt;br /&gt;
yoho action jackson!  reality check!!&lt;br /&gt;
what good games has action jackson&lt;br /&gt;
released nowadays and in the past!?!&lt;br /&gt;
the only thing you're fast with are&lt;br /&gt;
those magic-disk games,but we are not&lt;br /&gt;
so lame to buy a mag,rip of the tape or&lt;br /&gt;
disk and link an intro infront of it!!&lt;br /&gt;
also the quality is low!!  the crack of&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;heli resque&amp;quot; had the files nice on the&lt;br /&gt;
disk,but the loader didn't work!!&lt;br /&gt;
and when i loaded the next file myself,&lt;br /&gt;
it fucked up the entire game!!&lt;br /&gt;
have you ever heard any of the brutalers&lt;br /&gt;
say,that trc is better?!? i don't think&lt;br /&gt;
so,as it simply aint true!!!&lt;br /&gt;
you probably think we said it as trc was&lt;br /&gt;
always above brutal in the,dead,chapter&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;point of view&amp;quot;,done by r.c.s.&lt;br /&gt;
but r.c.s. is no brutal member!!&lt;br /&gt;
i think r.c.s. put you above us,as he&lt;br /&gt;
didn't want to get into any troubles&lt;br /&gt;
like... &amp;quot;r.c.s. is a friend of brutal,so&lt;br /&gt;
that's why brutal is on nr.1 in holland&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
and i can understand this completely!!&lt;br /&gt;
if i get a disk from a.j. it always&lt;br /&gt;
contains the latest frontpage,nice but..&lt;br /&gt;
and some (s)low budget games and also&lt;br /&gt;
the usual &amp;quot;troep&amp;quot; releases...&lt;br /&gt;
i never even bother loading any of the&lt;br /&gt;
cracks,except when i am bored.&lt;br /&gt;
no hard feelings,but i think you live in&lt;br /&gt;
some kind of an illusion when you think&lt;br /&gt;
that trc beats brutal in cracking!!&lt;br /&gt;
i think the charts proof enough!!  and&lt;br /&gt;
also please don't forget we got a cool&lt;br /&gt;
cracker in denmark too!!!&lt;br /&gt;
anyway,i think a.j. made quite a fool of&lt;br /&gt;
himself by saying trc rules holland,as&lt;br /&gt;
it is just a dream for him!!&lt;br /&gt;
trc was once the number one in demos,but&lt;br /&gt;
that was a long time ago...&lt;br /&gt;
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well,i just recieved the new b.r.,and&lt;br /&gt;
guess what? yes,i decided to make a&lt;br /&gt;
reaction,as nothing is perfect.&lt;br /&gt;
first of all,you really should make some&lt;br /&gt;
order to your news. it is no pleasure to&lt;br /&gt;
read that infinity rebuilt zenith,and a&lt;br /&gt;
few lines below stands that zenith was&lt;br /&gt;
rebuilt.   also you can find news&lt;br /&gt;
concerning the same group for 5 times!?!&lt;br /&gt;
(well,i haven't counted that...)&lt;br /&gt;
your demoreviews are far to short. you'd&lt;br /&gt;
better explain the technic of the code a&lt;br /&gt;
bit,even if some people might understand&lt;br /&gt;
a shit about it.  for coders plus some&lt;br /&gt;
other people it'd be more interesting&lt;br /&gt;
than reading &amp;quot;we have here 2000 multi-&lt;br /&gt;
plexed sprites with rotating flidic(!),&lt;br /&gt;
and a nice logo and a ripped music.&lt;br /&gt;
'check' some amiga-mags for example.&lt;br /&gt;
more about demoreviews.  you should make&lt;br /&gt;
a ranked list of reviewed demos! it is&lt;br /&gt;
no pleasure to check out 4 articles and&lt;br /&gt;
count was our demo the 3rd or 4th best&lt;br /&gt;
one this month.&lt;br /&gt;
no board section! most of the guys who&lt;br /&gt;
get the mag,don't have a modem. the ones&lt;br /&gt;
that have one,leech the newest &amp;quot;sh0ck&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
from a local bbs.&lt;br /&gt;
articles. well,you write almost all text&lt;br /&gt;
by yourself. you can't have more text in&lt;br /&gt;
the mag because of lack of time.&lt;br /&gt;
why wouldn't you get other people to&lt;br /&gt;
write articles,by sending them the&lt;br /&gt;
newest b.recall before releasedate,as a&lt;br /&gt;
reward. there would be much more text to&lt;br /&gt;
read,and also different things than any&lt;br /&gt;
other mag. check an amiga mag again!!&lt;br /&gt;
not concerning da mag,but it's worthless&lt;br /&gt;
for r.c.s. and aslive to fight about the&lt;br /&gt;
best swappers spot. in brutal recall rcs&lt;br /&gt;
is the best with a big difference to&lt;br /&gt;
aslive (rcs collecting votes for b.r.!)&lt;br /&gt;
and in script aslive is far ahead rcs.&lt;br /&gt;
(aslive collecting votes for script!)...&lt;br /&gt;
both are very good,as swappers.&lt;br /&gt;
end of this,beat topaz beerline.&lt;br /&gt;
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okay,thanx for the really cool reaction!&lt;br /&gt;
this is the kind of reactions that keeps&lt;br /&gt;
us going!!   okay,those news-errors can&lt;br /&gt;
occur as both r.c.s. and i write news,&lt;br /&gt;
and i always have to fix it...&lt;br /&gt;
mistakes are human!!!  there should be&lt;br /&gt;
some order...  well,about 5 issues ago,i&lt;br /&gt;
printed groups-news all together but i&lt;br /&gt;
got lots of negative reactions,that it's&lt;br /&gt;
so boring to read it like that!!&lt;br /&gt;
some mags also write like this...&lt;br /&gt;
         -----------------------&lt;br /&gt;
                 group-a&lt;br /&gt;
          x of group-b joined.&lt;br /&gt;
         cooperates with group-b&lt;br /&gt;
         -----------------------&lt;br /&gt;
                 group-b&lt;br /&gt;
         x left to join group-a&lt;br /&gt;
         cooperates with group-a&lt;br /&gt;
         -----------------------&lt;br /&gt;
               other news&lt;br /&gt;
          group-a+group-b coop!&lt;br /&gt;
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aint that fucking lame!?!  be glad we&lt;br /&gt;
write news at all,as this is the hardest&lt;br /&gt;
chapter of them all,as everybody can&lt;br /&gt;
write us shit and lies...and we can't&lt;br /&gt;
check on everything!!&lt;br /&gt;
too short demoreviews!! okay,you might&lt;br /&gt;
think so!!  ooh,i should tell how it was&lt;br /&gt;
done... then every lamer knows how to&lt;br /&gt;
do the tricks that are necessary and it&lt;br /&gt;
will really be fair to the original&lt;br /&gt;
coders!!  okay,sorry for not giving a&lt;br /&gt;
list of the ratings,but after writing 4&lt;br /&gt;
chapters i didn't really feel like doing&lt;br /&gt;
that work!!  i always did it before,so&lt;br /&gt;
don't crap i should do it!! i always did&lt;br /&gt;
it except for this time!!  you sound&lt;br /&gt;
just like a teacher... a boy always did&lt;br /&gt;
his homework,but once on the last lesson&lt;br /&gt;
he had no time left because there was&lt;br /&gt;
this important football match!! what did&lt;br /&gt;
the teacher do?!?  he let him came back&lt;br /&gt;
everyday in the holidays!!!&lt;br /&gt;
there's a list now,so eat your nose out!&lt;br /&gt;
some guys are interested in the usa,so&lt;br /&gt;
it will stay!!&lt;br /&gt;
yeah! why doesn't every sceneguy write&lt;br /&gt;
text for brutal recall!! if all write&lt;br /&gt;
10 blocks it will be 20 disks!!!&lt;br /&gt;
really cool!!  get real! do you know how&lt;br /&gt;
tough it is to write interesting text!?!&lt;br /&gt;
more editors will mean,less things to&lt;br /&gt;
write about as there really aren't that&lt;br /&gt;
many matter on which you can talk about!&lt;br /&gt;
also lots of guys write so fucking lame&lt;br /&gt;
english that it would take me more time,&lt;br /&gt;
even to fix the text than to write it&lt;br /&gt;
myself!!!  anyway,we are the mag which&lt;br /&gt;
has most,interesting,text on the c64!!!&lt;br /&gt;
i don't give a shit about the amiga and&lt;br /&gt;
i'm not comparing the c64 to it either!!&lt;br /&gt;
if i would compare c64 to amiga demos i&lt;br /&gt;
will give all c64 demos 1 out of 10!!!&lt;br /&gt;
amiga mags suck anyway,as the text is&lt;br /&gt;
about cows and calfs,and there's nothing&lt;br /&gt;
of any real interest!!&lt;br /&gt;
who're the best demo guys as all is&lt;br /&gt;
possible!?!&lt;br /&gt;
about the 'battle' between r.c.s. and&lt;br /&gt;
aslive...  r.c.s. beated aslive in the&lt;br /&gt;
latest script,so there goes your point!!&lt;br /&gt;
anyway,they seem to go quite along,as&lt;br /&gt;
aslive even congratulated r.c.s. for&lt;br /&gt;
that at light's!!&lt;br /&gt;
ps,i hope you like this outfit better!&lt;br /&gt;
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okay,someone wrote that i should keep&lt;br /&gt;
the small reactions without any info,to&lt;br /&gt;
myself and so i did!!!&lt;br /&gt;
please don't be angry if you wrote that&lt;br /&gt;
you (dis)liked brutal recall,and it&lt;br /&gt;
wasn't printed...  we need reactions&lt;br /&gt;
that tell some interesting things,how we&lt;br /&gt;
could improve the mag...&lt;br /&gt;
anyway,other reactions are ofcourse&lt;br /&gt;
welcome too and also appreciated!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
well,that was all for this time...&lt;br /&gt;
i gotta let you go for now,but i'll be&lt;br /&gt;
back!!&lt;br /&gt;
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