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		<title>Ymgve at 00:57, 19 June 2007</title>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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          &amp;quot;viper/rebels wrote&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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here's a little text that viper/rebels&lt;br /&gt;
wrote to me!  it came just in time to be&lt;br /&gt;
published.  please read it carefully!!&lt;br /&gt;
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      dear jerry and dear readers,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
what should i write after such a brain-&lt;br /&gt;
less text?? well, maybe i should start&lt;br /&gt;
at the beginning. nearly one year ago&lt;br /&gt;
our group rebels was born. just as triad&lt;br /&gt;
got this, they pretended that some older&lt;br /&gt;
guys like jerry or king fisher were in&lt;br /&gt;
a group before that was called rebels&lt;br /&gt;
too and tried to force us to change our&lt;br /&gt;
groupname. but till today we didn't care&lt;br /&gt;
about their lame behaviour as for sure&lt;br /&gt;
95% of the scene never before has heard&lt;br /&gt;
from a group called rebels.&lt;br /&gt;
now they try to put us down as rippers&lt;br /&gt;
so that we give up and rebels dies !!&lt;br /&gt;
but when one thing is sure, then it is&lt;br /&gt;
that rebels never will die because of&lt;br /&gt;
some boasting triad'ers !!&lt;br /&gt;
but now to the intro jerry wrote about:&lt;br /&gt;
you maybe have seen our intro with a&lt;br /&gt;
average rebels logo at the top and in&lt;br /&gt;
the bottom some kind of mountains or&lt;br /&gt;
hills moving around !! well, jerry&lt;br /&gt;
thinks that the mountain scrolling&lt;br /&gt;
routine is ripped.&lt;br /&gt;
i nearly started laughing when i read&lt;br /&gt;
this. i talked with antiplex on the&lt;br /&gt;
phone as he has made the intro some time&lt;br /&gt;
ago. and he told me that the routine for&lt;br /&gt;
sure was not ripped. yes, he has taken&lt;br /&gt;
(or jerry would you say ripped) the idea&lt;br /&gt;
with the mountains and the mountains&lt;br /&gt;
itself. if you have seen the demo called&lt;br /&gt;
'rippers united' that was spread by&lt;br /&gt;
triadX then you easily can see that the&lt;br /&gt;
routine wasn't ripped, when you see that&lt;br /&gt;
the scrolling in our intro has an other&lt;br /&gt;
direction than the scrolling in the&lt;br /&gt;
activision intro. and if there are any&lt;br /&gt;
guys that can code, then they can com-&lt;br /&gt;
pare the both codings and they will see&lt;br /&gt;
that the routine was not ripped.&lt;br /&gt;
yes, antiplex used the mountains for&lt;br /&gt;
the same idea as activision did. but is&lt;br /&gt;
this lame ? first at all we never pre-&lt;br /&gt;
tended that the graphics were made by&lt;br /&gt;
ourselves and second, do you also wanna&lt;br /&gt;
call all the dudes, who see a nice&lt;br /&gt;
routine in a demo, and use the same idea&lt;br /&gt;
for their demo, lame ?? if soo, then&lt;br /&gt;
the whole scene would be full of lamers&lt;br /&gt;
as there are only maybe 5 or 6 really&lt;br /&gt;
original coders or painters !!&lt;br /&gt;
when i would have the same opinion as&lt;br /&gt;
you have, then i also should have to&lt;br /&gt;
call all the guys that have coded an&lt;br /&gt;
d.y.c.p. or a f.l.i routine rippers, as&lt;br /&gt;
only one guy has had the original idea.&lt;br /&gt;
all the others are 'pure' rippers then.&lt;br /&gt;
so jerry maybe you should think about&lt;br /&gt;
this again. and if you ever should try&lt;br /&gt;
to set similar rumours out, then please&lt;br /&gt;
show me that you are cool and talk 1st&lt;br /&gt;
with me about your problem concerning&lt;br /&gt;
the rebels. this way you at least can&lt;br /&gt;
prove that you are right and won't&lt;br /&gt;
handle like a lamer who sets out false&lt;br /&gt;
rumours.&lt;br /&gt;
and everything concerning our group&lt;br /&gt;
name i just can say.... i'm now nearly&lt;br /&gt;
5 years in the c-64 scene. i've heard&lt;br /&gt;
from groups like zero boys, west end&lt;br /&gt;
boys, maniacs, byteriders, danish gold,&lt;br /&gt;
1001 crew, eagle soft inc., triad (yes),&lt;br /&gt;
shining 8, abc, dynamic duo, abnormal,&lt;br /&gt;
plasma, new formula crew (nfc), sphinx,&lt;br /&gt;
untouchable cracking force (ucf), annex,&lt;br /&gt;
mechanix, critters, city boys, count,&lt;br /&gt;
drive, druids, triangle, cosmos, exact,&lt;br /&gt;
agile, zenobits, rampar, axion,.....&lt;br /&gt;
you see they are quite many, but for&lt;br /&gt;
100% i never heard from a group called&lt;br /&gt;
rebels.&lt;br /&gt;
well, maybe rebels really existed a long&lt;br /&gt;
time ago. but should we be allowed to&lt;br /&gt;
use the same name as the old rebels for&lt;br /&gt;
sure weren't the famous at that time !!&lt;br /&gt;
if we shouldn't we allowed to use this&lt;br /&gt;
name, then groups like plasma design,&lt;br /&gt;
guardian angels, paramount should have&lt;br /&gt;
to change their groupname, as i was in&lt;br /&gt;
some local groups with this names in my&lt;br /&gt;
hometown !!&lt;br /&gt;
so jerry, think about this. and if you&lt;br /&gt;
wanna react on this text, then do so&lt;br /&gt;
and send your reaction first to me and&lt;br /&gt;
then also to the rest of the world and&lt;br /&gt;
don't be a chicken and not sending it to&lt;br /&gt;
me so that i don't have to hear your&lt;br /&gt;
lies from other guys !!&lt;br /&gt;
ohhh, by the way, in your lame ripp of&lt;br /&gt;
our intro you wrote that hibisch ripped&lt;br /&gt;
the intro. but as he has nothing to do&lt;br /&gt;
with the intro except that he used it&lt;br /&gt;
for his cracks you should give hibisch&lt;br /&gt;
an excuse, to show the world that still&lt;br /&gt;
at least a triad member can make a&lt;br /&gt;
mistake (maybe you first should prove&lt;br /&gt;
your so called facts before you give&lt;br /&gt;
them out to the rest of the world) !!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
well, i hope you and some other dudes&lt;br /&gt;
read this lines carefully and think&lt;br /&gt;
about what i wrote !!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                  yours, viper of rebels&lt;br /&gt;
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yoho viper!&lt;br /&gt;
i know that the intro wasn't ripped as i&lt;br /&gt;
checked the code and for anyone that can&lt;br /&gt;
not code,i tell that you need a complete&lt;br /&gt;
different routine to make a scroll to&lt;br /&gt;
the left instead of to the right!!!&lt;br /&gt;
i also had never heard of an old group&lt;br /&gt;
called &amp;quot;rebels&amp;quot; on the c64!!!&lt;br /&gt;
i've been in 'time' myself a looong time&lt;br /&gt;
ago,but do i talk shit about the new&lt;br /&gt;
time in south africa?!?&lt;br /&gt;
nope,why should i!?!&lt;br /&gt;
anyway,keep the name as it is cool!&lt;br /&gt;
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