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		<title>Xiii at 16:23, 31 October 2013</title>
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		<title>Xiii: Created page with &quot;&lt;pre&gt;  MUSICSCENE ISSUE NO.7, ADDYBOOK NO.12!   --------------------------------------                                           this is mr.mouse/xentax/blaze writing!   how h...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;  MUSICSCENE ISSUE NO.7, ADDYBOOK NO.12!   --------------------------------------                                           this is mr.mouse/xentax/blaze writing!   how h...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 MUSICSCENE ISSUE NO.7, ADDYBOOK NO.12! &lt;br /&gt;
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this is mr.mouse/xentax/blaze writing!  &lt;br /&gt;
how have you all been? i guess you are  &lt;br /&gt;
really fed up with this musicscene-chap.&lt;br /&gt;
but i can give you one advise only:     &lt;br /&gt;
if you're not interested: DON'T READ IT!&lt;br /&gt;
i have got some musicians for you this  &lt;br /&gt;
time! so, here comes the list:          &lt;br /&gt;
musicians reviewed:                     &lt;br /&gt;
                                        &lt;br /&gt;
1.sascha nagie/demons of sound          &lt;br /&gt;
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2.gero/abadion                          &lt;br /&gt;
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3.tragic error/the imperium arts        &lt;br /&gt;
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name   : sascha nagie                   &lt;br /&gt;
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handle : sascha nagie/dos               &lt;br /&gt;
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age    : ?                              &lt;br /&gt;
                                        &lt;br /&gt;
sex    : male                           &lt;br /&gt;
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            space for review            &lt;br /&gt;
well, well. this is a guy who compares  &lt;br /&gt;
himself to big musicians like MARTIN    &lt;br /&gt;
GALWAY and JEROEN TEL.                  &lt;br /&gt;
that is not so strange, as his music is &lt;br /&gt;
done in the same style as galway.       &lt;br /&gt;
only, it's not as good as galway.       &lt;br /&gt;
and it's not as good as jeroen tel in   &lt;br /&gt;
the m.o.n. days either.                 &lt;br /&gt;
so what is his music like, then?        &lt;br /&gt;
well, i'll try and explain.             &lt;br /&gt;
i am going to talk about a few zax from &lt;br /&gt;
him in one time, because the songs are  &lt;br /&gt;
all alike. the songs i am going to      &lt;br /&gt;
mention are: &amp;quot;tel it to jeroen&amp;quot;,        &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;galway's wiz&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;demons of sound&amp;quot; and   &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;forgotten realms&amp;quot;.                     &lt;br /&gt;
the first one is not bad. there are nice&lt;br /&gt;
sounds, solo is fairly good, but the    &lt;br /&gt;
drumssound is not up to standard.       &lt;br /&gt;
the accord sounds and basspatterns are  &lt;br /&gt;
repetive. so this song is maniacs of    &lt;br /&gt;
noise quality? no. it is not. the song  &lt;br /&gt;
is intended to beat mon, but it's just  &lt;br /&gt;
a cheap rip off. the sounds are very    &lt;br /&gt;
alike, that's true, but it just hasn't  &lt;br /&gt;
that feel. so, what do you get?         &lt;br /&gt;
a song with sounds that have long gone  &lt;br /&gt;
bye-bye and that would have been good   &lt;br /&gt;
if it wasn't so damn obvious that it    &lt;br /&gt;
was ripped from mon.                    &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;galway's wiz&amp;quot; is actually the same     &lt;br /&gt;
story. the solo is sometimes false.     &lt;br /&gt;
i am not saying it isn't varied, oh no, &lt;br /&gt;
it really is, but he should try and use &lt;br /&gt;
other editors, other sounds, other      &lt;br /&gt;
styles! there is no way he will be      &lt;br /&gt;
exepted like this. at least, in my opin-&lt;br /&gt;
ion he won't. the song is good for a    &lt;br /&gt;
background music in a game or a mag,    &lt;br /&gt;
but i don't think mageditors would like &lt;br /&gt;
to use this.                            &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;demons of sound&amp;quot; contends nice varied  &lt;br /&gt;
bassloops, but again: galway rip offs,  &lt;br /&gt;
mon rip offs. and that is in my opinion &lt;br /&gt;
really a shame, because he IS good.     &lt;br /&gt;
he forgets that there is more to beating&lt;br /&gt;
galway or m.o.n.! THEY had great        &lt;br /&gt;
melodies!                               &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;forgotten realms&amp;quot; is varied indeed,    &lt;br /&gt;
this songs is in addybook.              &lt;br /&gt;
well, i'll end this review.             &lt;br /&gt;
sascha is very good in ripping other    &lt;br /&gt;
peoples styles, but he misses the magic &lt;br /&gt;
that those people DID have.             &lt;br /&gt;
and makes him a normal, basic musician, &lt;br /&gt;
with no own style, but with some nice   &lt;br /&gt;
ideas.                                  &lt;br /&gt;
well, i hope he tries to quit the       &lt;br /&gt;
attempt of beating the magicians,because&lt;br /&gt;
he will only fail.                      &lt;br /&gt;
SASCHA NAGIE/DOS                        &lt;br /&gt;
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introability    : 40%                   &lt;br /&gt;
                           overall:     &lt;br /&gt;
melody          : 65%                   &lt;br /&gt;
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rhythmetic feel : 70%        60%        &lt;br /&gt;
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longplay        : 65%                   &lt;br /&gt;
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name   : gerard kubiny                  &lt;br /&gt;
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handle : gero/abadion                   &lt;br /&gt;
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age    : ?                              &lt;br /&gt;
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sex    : male                           &lt;br /&gt;
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hhmm...there's not much to say about the&lt;br /&gt;
dude, as he has sent me one song only.  &lt;br /&gt;
but i'll review the chechoslowakian man.&lt;br /&gt;
i know it's his 4th music and it's done &lt;br /&gt;
with DMC editor v2.0.                   &lt;br /&gt;
there are some good drumsounds, in my   &lt;br /&gt;
own opinion the snaredrumsound is just  &lt;br /&gt;
excellent! if he made it himself: bravo!&lt;br /&gt;
the basspattern is nice and has two     &lt;br /&gt;
changes. but it might get repetive.     &lt;br /&gt;
the solo however could have been much   &lt;br /&gt;
better. as the solosound itslef is empty&lt;br /&gt;
the whole solo get's an empty feel.     &lt;br /&gt;
and that reflects on the song.          &lt;br /&gt;
another reason for the emptyness of the &lt;br /&gt;
song is, that he uses 1 track for each  &lt;br /&gt;
instrument. so: bass one track, drums   &lt;br /&gt;
one track and solo one track.           &lt;br /&gt;
he doesn't try and mix them, like mixing&lt;br /&gt;
bass, drums and chordsounds. that way   &lt;br /&gt;
the song would be filled and leaving    &lt;br /&gt;
space for the solo one track.           &lt;br /&gt;
i think he must try and improve on that,&lt;br /&gt;
but as he said it was his 4th music, i  &lt;br /&gt;
must say he will most certainly improve,&lt;br /&gt;
as he has done very well!               &lt;br /&gt;
well, nothing more to say about him!    &lt;br /&gt;
when you finished reading this chapter  &lt;br /&gt;
then please listen to his song in addyb.&lt;br /&gt;
his address is at the end of this chap. &lt;br /&gt;
GERO/ABADION                            &lt;br /&gt;
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introability    : 62%                   &lt;br /&gt;
                           overall:     &lt;br /&gt;
melody          : 55%                   &lt;br /&gt;
                                        &lt;br /&gt;
rhythmetic feel : 58%       56.25%      &lt;br /&gt;
                                        &lt;br /&gt;
longplay        : 50%                   &lt;br /&gt;
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name   : tragic error/the imperium arts &lt;br /&gt;
                                        &lt;br /&gt;
handle : ringo reuter                   &lt;br /&gt;
                                        &lt;br /&gt;
age    : 17                             &lt;br /&gt;
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sex    : male                           &lt;br /&gt;
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ahhaa!, i thought! another tia-member!  &lt;br /&gt;
i forgot to mention him in a memberstat.&lt;br /&gt;
from tia which i gave to you in addybook&lt;br /&gt;
number 10. so the memberstatus is now:  &lt;br /&gt;
TIA                                     &lt;br /&gt;
---                                     &lt;br /&gt;
the syndrom  : matthias hartung (18)    &lt;br /&gt;
gaston       : sebastian thiel  (17)    &lt;br /&gt;
tragic error : ringo reuter     (17)    &lt;br /&gt;
                                        &lt;br /&gt;
but back to the review. in the last     &lt;br /&gt;
zakplayer, at least the last i got(3)   &lt;br /&gt;
were a whole lotta tunes by this dude.  &lt;br /&gt;
i think about 55 percent. so, he is     &lt;br /&gt;
productive! but what about his tunes?   &lt;br /&gt;
well, i listened to all the songs, but  &lt;br /&gt;
i decided to put &amp;quot;day dreaming&amp;quot; in      &lt;br /&gt;
addybook.                               &lt;br /&gt;
but i'll tell you something about the   &lt;br /&gt;
other songs as well.                    &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;three men&amp;quot;:                            &lt;br /&gt;
the song contains one bass pattern.     &lt;br /&gt;
there's a nice echo-solosound, but the  &lt;br /&gt;
solo itself is mostly repetive. the song&lt;br /&gt;
on the whole is somewhat varied.        &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;uncle tom&amp;quot;:                            &lt;br /&gt;
nice overall sounds, but the solo is    &lt;br /&gt;
basic. he tries to get that hubbard-    &lt;br /&gt;
effect in, but it's just not that       &lt;br /&gt;
perfect. he misses an inch.             &lt;br /&gt;
on the whole the song is repetive       &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;lt.straider&amp;quot;:                          &lt;br /&gt;
this has got a nice intro! but again the&lt;br /&gt;
solo is somewhat out of this world, it  &lt;br /&gt;
is not that melodic and doesn't reflect &lt;br /&gt;
on the bass sometimes.                  &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;day dreaming&amp;quot;:                         &lt;br /&gt;
a good intro, which is nicely put       &lt;br /&gt;
together! i frowned at the drastic      &lt;br /&gt;
change though, but hey it's ok.         &lt;br /&gt;
nice backline, nice background! yes, the&lt;br /&gt;
accompanying bass+chord is good.        &lt;br /&gt;
the solo is varied, it ranges from      &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;empty&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;real melodic&amp;quot;!              &lt;br /&gt;
the bass pattern however stays the same.&lt;br /&gt;
                                        &lt;br /&gt;
well, that was a bit of his songs.      &lt;br /&gt;
he sometimes has the filter not         &lt;br /&gt;
correctly arranged with the sound using.&lt;br /&gt;
so you get that irritating &amp;quot;click!&amp;quot;.    &lt;br /&gt;
all in all, i'd say he is rather ok,    &lt;br /&gt;
but he has to get the repetiveness out  &lt;br /&gt;
and the solo's have to be stronger in   &lt;br /&gt;
the melodic meaning. but he fits nice   &lt;br /&gt;
in tia, and he's surrounded by good     &lt;br /&gt;
musicians, so the improving should not  &lt;br /&gt;
be a problem.                           &lt;br /&gt;
take an ear out an listen to his song in&lt;br /&gt;
addybook or his songs in other progr.   &lt;br /&gt;
again his address's at the end.         &lt;br /&gt;
TRAGIC ERROR/THE IMPERIUM ARTS          &lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
introability    : 70                    &lt;br /&gt;
                          overall:      &lt;br /&gt;
melody          : 58                    &lt;br /&gt;
                                        &lt;br /&gt;
rhythmetic feel : 58        59%         &lt;br /&gt;
                                        &lt;br /&gt;
longplay        : 50                    &lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
rrrround up! this is it, folks! i'm off!&lt;br /&gt;
i hope ya still like my musicchapter!   &lt;br /&gt;
with mr.ammo leaving blaze and all.     &lt;br /&gt;
but hey, i don't give a damn.           &lt;br /&gt;
so, next time i'm going to review some  &lt;br /&gt;
other dudes. but: SEND YOUR MUSICS NOW!!&lt;br /&gt;
PLEASE!                                 &lt;br /&gt;
one final comment:                      &lt;br /&gt;
i hope you all liked my UNITED EUROPEANS&lt;br /&gt;
note. we must stop this dumb racism!!!!!&lt;br /&gt;
but please, left radicals, we must work &lt;br /&gt;
together!!! only then we'll achieve     &lt;br /&gt;
to eliminate ultra-right.               &lt;br /&gt;
well, here is my address, after that    &lt;br /&gt;
there're the addresses of the musicians &lt;br /&gt;
reviewed in this issue.                 &lt;br /&gt;
ok... i'm off... and i can't promise    &lt;br /&gt;
being in the scene for another year, but&lt;br /&gt;
hey, we'll see what future brings.      &lt;br /&gt;
(if there IS a future) xentax:          &lt;br /&gt;
XENTAX(musiclabel)memberstatus:         &lt;br /&gt;
mr.mouse/blaze       : leader,musician  &lt;br /&gt;
active/varsity       : musician,swap    &lt;br /&gt;
the gee/hitmen       : musician,swap    &lt;br /&gt;
ragman/comic pirates : musician,swap    &lt;br /&gt;
mateus/xentax        : musician,swap    &lt;br /&gt;
gop!/genius          : musician,swap    &lt;br /&gt;
peace/blaze          : musician,coder   &lt;br /&gt;
death/hitmen         : graphician,swap  &lt;br /&gt;
pina/xentax          : coder,swap       &lt;br /&gt;
         mr.mouse/xentax/blaze          &lt;br /&gt;
         ---------------------          &lt;br /&gt;
            xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx             &lt;br /&gt;
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            xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx             &lt;br /&gt;
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            xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx             &lt;br /&gt;
                                        &lt;br /&gt;
for addybooks musictalk, xentax tunes,  &lt;br /&gt;
   ordering tunes and musicswap!!!!!    &lt;br /&gt;
gero/abadion   sascha nagie  tragic err.&lt;br /&gt;
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gerard kubiny                           &lt;br /&gt;
bernolakova 46    contact      contact  &lt;br /&gt;
ban.bystrica                            &lt;br /&gt;
97400              d.o.s.       t.i.a.  &lt;br /&gt;
chechoslowakia                          &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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