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==. reactions==
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             - chapter 4 -              
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             the place for              
                                        
      your reactions on THE GUIDE.      
          our answers to them.          
      our reactions on happenings.      
                                        
          no nazi - no covard           
                colors                  
               freewares                
    translations - fucking important    
               aftermath                
                                        
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  WITH A LITTLE HELP FROM THE FRIENDS!  
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   there was a macro on BACKPECK the    
 german bbs. or is it called hackcheck? 
 who cares! anyway the macro read:      
                                        
     TRIAD:we are 2 years too late.     
                                        
   dear friend! whoever you are, you    
 can´t expect TRIAD to help you unless  
 you tell us who you are.               
                                        
   besides, if you are 2 years behind   
 in your development, we fear that you  
 are a lost case anyway. don´t give up  
 though. you may be able to handle a    
 rubber duck.                           
                 yours truly papa JERRY 

                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                  TRIAD                 
                    =                   
                maturity!               
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                 -----> 

            NO NAZI - NO COVARD         
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   long ago when we started making THE  
 GUIDE, we knew we would have to change 
 it now and again not to bore people.   
                                        
   we decided as a minimum to change    
 the intro, the swing-logo and the      
 music every 5 issues or preferably     
 more often if we could.                
                                        
   we have done such changes all the    
 time. maybe we couldn´t do it as often 
 as we would have prefered, but there   
 has never been as many as 5 issues     
 that looked the same.                  

            NO NAZI - NO COVARD         
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   issues 15.5, 16, 17  and 18 all had  
 the same swing-logo, music and intro.  
 time for a change again.               
                                        
   THIS was the ONLY reason for us to   
 change the logo, but naturally someone 
 saw a connection to the reaction in    
 issue # 19.                            
                                        
   recently i was interviewed for one   
 of the better mags and was asked what  
 i think makes TRIAD different from     
 most groups. such a question is never  
 easy to answer. one sort of knows      
 without being able to put it into      
 words. now i realized one answer. ---> 

            NO NAZI - NO COVARD         
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   generally the members in TRIAD have  
 a maturity that is not too common.     
                                        
   if we think we have done something   
 wrong, we have no problem admitting    
 that. if we change our minds on how to 
 do things, we have no problem to admit 
 that. that is maturity - that is TRIAD 
                                        
   we never had any problem with the    
 swinglogo we used in issues # 15.5-19. 
 if that had been the case, we would    
 have said so.                          
               so there!                
                                        
                                  JERRY 

                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
              let´s swing!              
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
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               SWING ALONG              
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   talking about the swinglogo reminded 
 me of another thing.                   
                                        
   in # 19 it was red on light gray.    
 here in # 20 it is gold on red.        
                                        
   this is the result of a dicussion we 
 had in TRIAD. the present standing is  
 3 to 4.                                
                                        
   just for the fun of it, please tell  
 your TRIAD dealer which one of the     
 colors you prefere.                    
                                 JERRY  

                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
              games free                
                                        
               to copy!                 
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
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                FREEWARES               
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   the software companies selling games 
 through different chanels mark their   
 pieces with a copy-right mark and when 
 appropriate also a trade mark classed  
 as a registered trademark.             
                                        
   once in a while a group has coded    
 a game that they release on their own  
 and doing so their highest wish is for 
 their game to be spread all over the   
 place.                                 
                                        
   they mark their piece as freeware,   
 pd, smileware or whatever.         --> 

                FREEWARES               
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   i have been collecting games since   
 1986 and that means that i have picked 
 up games cracked in 1983 and onwards.  
                                        
   in all those many thousands of crax  
 made by many houndred groups over the  
 years, it is extremely rare that they  
 have messed with the copy-right mark.  
 maybe there are as few such versions   
 as two or three in a box with 90 disks 
 stuffed with games.                    
                                        
   there seem to be an unwritten law of 
 honour not to mess with the games like 
 that, but admittedly this is also a    
 part of "YOU CAN´T TOUCH ME"!     -->  

                FREEWARES               
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   for some strange reason the same law 
 of honour doesn´t seem to apply to the 
 games done by the groups on the scene  
 and released to be freely spread.      
                                        
   the latest example of this is the    
 hockey simulation KARAMALZ CUP. this   
 game is FREEWARE.                      
                                        
   RED SECTOR removed the whole page    
 where the credits were given for the   
 game and where it said that the game   
 is FREEWARE and may be freely spread.  
                                        
   F4CG removed the words about     --> 

                FREEWARES               
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 the game being FREEWARE.               
                                        
   F4CG made a sort of translation of   
 the game and spread it as an original. 
 the groups who got this "original"     
 naturally had no way of knowing that   
 they were working with a game that is  
 totally free to copy and spread.       
                                        
   as i see it, removing the credits    
 for making a game and that it is free  
 to be copied and spread can only be    
 classified in one way:                 
                                        
                HOW LAME!               
                                  JERRY 

                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
             one language               
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
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               TRANSLATING              
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   KARAMALZ CUP brought up also another 
 subject, namely translating it into    
 english, the universal language for    
 computerists.                          
                                        
   both F4CG and RSI have translated    
 the game.                              
                                        
   sort of translated it!               
                                        
   none of them did a complete transla- 
 tion. none of them know much about     
 ice hockey. both of them obviously     
 didn´t understand one part of the      
 original instructions. RSI left it --> 

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 it out completely and F4CG made a mess 
 if this part.                          
                                        
   when translating from one language   
 to another, it is important not only   
 to translate, but also to use the      
 proper words used by those who speak   
 that language.                         
                                        
   ice hockey originated in canada and  
 thus english is the proper language.   
 everything else is translated.         
                                        
   thus translating the instructions    
 for KARAMALZ CUP is a bad job unless   
 the proper words are used.         --> 

               TRANSLATING              
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   the proper hockey terms are: period. 
 icing, slap shot, roughing and so on   
 and not the weird translations made by 
 F4CG and RSI.                          
                                        
   true enough, a canadian hockey fan   
 would understand it anyway, but a      
 translation should be properly done    
 never the less.                        
                                        
   another recent example is the game   
 HANS KLOSS from poland or KAPITÄN      
 KLOSS as is the name of the old tv-    
 series behind this game. the only      
 original i have seen so far is a       
 version that was translated by HAIN.   

               TRANSLATING              
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   naturally it is nice of him to       
 translate it and spread the original,  
 but it had been a good deal nicer if   
 he had done a proper job.              
                                        
   as it was, the text inside the game  
 was not translated. there is a list of 
 specifications of the v1-bomb and a    
 speach at the end of the completed     
 game that were not translated among    
 other things.                          
                                        
   i am sure that a lot of you think    
 that i am only trying to make myself   
 important. NOT! there is a heck of a   
 lot more to it than that.      ---->   

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   i claim that we are talking about    
 the survival of the scene and THAT     
 should be important to ALL of us.      
                                        
   of course a lot of the games can be  
 played even if we don´t understand all 
 the words that appear on the screen,   
 but that is not what is important here 
                                        
   if we all stick to ONE language that 
 we can use to communicate, there is a  
 far greater chance that we can keep    
 the 64 scene living. it will never     
 last if people stick to their own      
 language and form smaller cliques.     
 this would split the efforts.     -->  

               TRANSLATING              
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   people like HAIN and others who get  
 their hands on fresh games should take 
 their responsibility for the future.   
 now instead all they care for is to    
 have a first release and to hell with  
 the rest.                              
                                        
                                        
   anyone of you guys out there who     
 need a bit of help, contact me, JERRY. 
 i am there for the scene and the       
 friendship, nothing else. those who    
 really know me, also know that i never 
 cheat on people.                       
                                        
                                 JERRY  

                                        
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             the soap opera             
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
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             THE SOAP OPERA             
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        #20 is extremely delayed.       
              #20 is thin.              
                                        
   i totally lost interest in spending  
         time at the computer.          
                                        
         it definiteley din´t           
  make things better when i found out   
     that SHE is allready married.      
                                        
        in triad. in other groups       
                 friends                
          thanx for being there.        
                                 JERRY  
                                        
  wipe your snotty noses and read on -> 


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